why is defending yourself / your family still illegal in australia?
in australia, if an armed intruder breaks into your home, you are not allowed to defend yourself in any way, shape, or form. if the individual is between you and your child, you are supposed to run in the opposite direction and leave your child to be raped and killed.
the government likes to pretend that the whole of australia has the same crime problems as a high income, rural town in queensland 20 years ago. meanwhile melbourne and sydney are as bad as most of europe and parts of the U.S now, and there is no extra police or resources dedicated to these havens of crime.
i can almost understand why a stun gun or pepper spray could cause more problems than it solves in a rural christian town with 60 people. but why does the same laws have to apply melbourne and sydney? where most of the population lives, and most of the crime happens.... but we are all covered by this one blanket of laws from 2+ decades ago.
even stab proof clothing is illegal here....
Ryan Peterson
>if the individual is between you and your child, you are supposed to run in the opposite direction and leave your child to be raped and killed. source
Benjamin Thomas
jews.
Nicholas Barnes
bump
Connor Reed
You are allowed to use reasonable force. How are you this stupid.
Jordan Hernandez
what is 'reasonable force' exactly? what option does an elderly or disabled person have?
Dominic Davis
You DO get that that law stops you from being 'accidentally' shot by drunken abbos, right?
Because you can't stop him getting a gun license because of race, that would be wacist.
Evan Bennett
What is it about the anti-gun/Authoritarian movement when they always go after non-lethal weapons once guns, knives, and the like are banned? The only possible reason to bring charges against a woman for using pepper spray on a rapist is to create a culture of helplessness that enables the government to interfere in every aspect of its citizens' lives.
Aaron Cooper
Australia is a sad joke of a police state
Any nation that doesn't let you legally own weapons considers you a stupid child that needs to be ruled
Carson Martin
australians will bitch about america, but i spent a month driving around america earlier this year (all of the west coast and some of NY) and 95% of the places i visited honestly felt safer than australia. the NYC subway is literally safer and cleaner than melbournes underground stations.
Jordan Gomez
We can legally own weapons, its just that you need to pass background checks and not be a mentally unstable cunt.
Joseph Morgan
Does your olfactory system not work? NYC smells worse than an abo mission.
Anthony Ross
you can have a bolt action rifle for shooting kangaroos after you've jumped through a million hoops. You're definitely not allowed to have guns.
Levi Wood
the smell is a different story. manhattan and new jersey smell literally worse than fucking india.
Michael Adams
>what is 'reasonable force' exactly? Anything necessary to stop the threat. If some bloke from work has come to bash you, there's an expectation that you're going to disengage if possible. If someone has broken into your house at midnight, you do whatever is necessary to stop the threat and protect your loved ones. If that means you have to kill the intruder, that's fine.
Nathaniel Williams
You have NFI.
Evan Ramirez
what good does a cricket bat or bayonet do against intruders breaking into your home at 3am with sawed off shotguns and automatic pistols?
Cooper James
It means whatever weapon you choose to defend yourself with, have a second that you can plant on your attacker.
Jaxon Smith
You can use guns.
Kayden Parker
>sawed off shotguns and automatic pistols? These don't exist in Australia according to the ignorant seppo.
Jaxson Richardson
The fuck am I looking at?
Jack Ross
>in australia, if an armed intruder breaks into your home, you are not allowed to defend yourself in any way, shape, or form. Someone doesn't live in south australia, we are allowed to use reasonable force if someone is in our homes
Jose Walker
>Why do you need a gun goy?
Samuel King
this unironically reads like some shit out of 1984.
Hudson Gray
you need to be a more progressive goy
Camden Barnes
Lol. It takes more than a back ground check pal. A lot more
Colton White
from my limited research You are allowed to defend yourself and others, but possibly not your possessions, and only within "reasonable force". The law is lenient enough that you will get away with a lot so long as you play it safe and/or have a good lawyer, but not good enough that you won't get fucked if you slip up. Say if you defend your home with a weapon and kill or maim an intruder, you need a reason as to why you thought that the degree of force used was necessary to neauteralise the threat to you or your family. Immediate danger needs to be clarified, and the degree of it as well. Say if you lay out a robber with a cricket bat, you would want to say the magic words "it looked like he had a knife" and "I feared for my life". You are only allowed to act defensively, and not offensively, which means that you might defend yourself from an immediate attack but not pursue an intruder. Regardless of the law, you're probably going to get fucked if you defend yourself with a real weapon like a sword or a gun. The law is too ambiguous and restrictive and really must be changed with all these fucking violent immigrants around, and weapons laws with it
Gabriel Bailey
>tfw sold my H&K VP9 for a $500 profit in Commiefornia
Feels good MATE
Carter Perry
Interestingly, you can't legally own FLIR/thermal rifles scopes in this state. Really makes you hmm.
Jonathan Allen
Maybe in the bitch nigger states. In South Australia you can legally fuck up anyone who breaks into your house, no "reasonable force" or "fearing for my life" bullshit either.
Brody Phillips
Gov notices, bides it's time, then utilizes an aneurysm or heart attack inducing satellite beam execution. Carcinogenic accelerators are also (rarely) deployed. Then there's the ol' "self-suicide" and domestic accident trip and head bumps... etc. These tactics are also used on state agents that have been coerced or entrapped into committing aforementioned activities in their later lives as a de facto guilt associative "moralisation" is rationalised. I wonder how often these kinda things happen elsewhere...
Jose Davis
Not really. But you innercity folk are disconnected from reality.