Down Syndrome Has Almost Been Eliminated In Iceland, And People’s Reactions Are Heartbreaking

Brandon Rivera
Brandon Rivera

In countries like the US and UK, people with Down syndrome are gaining more visibility year by year. In Iceland, however, they’ve almost completely disappeared. A recent CBS News probe has revealed why only 2 Icelandic children are born with Down syndrome each year on average, and their findings have sparked a fierce ethics debate online.

Landspítali, or the National University Hospital of Iceland, has been offering prenatal screening tests to pregnant women since the early 2000s, an essential step in detecting development problems in a fetus – including Down syndrome. Unlike the estimated 67% of women in the US who choose to terminate their pregnancies upon diagnosis of the disorder, nearly 100% of Icelandic women do so, making Down syndrome extremely rare in the island nation. “My understanding is that we have basically eradicated, almost, Down syndrome from our society,” geneticist Kari Stefansson told CBS.

Despite the often poor prognosis for children with Down syndrome, and the costs associated with their care that are borne by their families, some are still arguing that their existence should be valued by society, and that terminating all Down’s pregnancies is unethical.

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Joshua Gray
Joshua Gray

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please check the catalog. You killed a thread for this.

Jason Collins
Jason Collins

Down Syndrome Has Almost Been Eliminated In Iceland, And People’s Reactions Are Retarded Virtue Signalling
fixed that for you

Isaac Price
Isaac Price

Down syndrome is not a genetic disorder retard its a chromosome defect

Matthew Kelly
Matthew Kelly

please do not embarass yourself, thanks.

Jace Ramirez
Jace Ramirez

Suck my ass retard

Jeremiah Brooks
Jeremiah Brooks

some are still arguing that their existence should be valued by society

religious fundies are the only ones who would be upset at this because they love suffering.

Dominic Morris
Dominic Morris

/sci/ go back brainlet

Hunter Russell
Hunter Russell

o shit i usually do check damn bro

Levi Hill
Levi Hill

Knowingly wasting your best years and all your resources on a potato
religionfags

Dylan Robinson
Dylan Robinson

Down syndrome genocide

Juan Adams
Juan Adams

he used to love to hold babies until he squashed one like the retard from Mice and Men

Carson Ross
Carson Ross

It should mandatory to abort sick and undeveloped defected children and make it illegal for people with genetic disorders to reproduce.

I am against normal abortion but we have the technology to know if a child will be damaged and retarded so we could stop them from breeding and existing, how is this not logical?

Eli Martinez
Eli Martinez

but they dont kill nigger babies
so killing a downsie is just selfish
the nigger is going to be low IQ and liable to end up stealing raping killing and also be a net negative on GDP
but the downsiees are the ones they choose to kill
lets be clear, they arent eradicating downs syndrome
they are killing the babies that have it
there is a difference
its not like they are curing anything

Blake Reed
Blake Reed

rip to the icelandic music scene

Caleb Rivera
Caleb Rivera

because muh feels

Jackson Powell
Jackson Powell

Watch how the left become anti abortion to protect future disabled ppl.

Christopher Powell
Christopher Powell

There seem to be a billion downie potatoes in China and some of them seem pretty smart

Lucas Cook
Lucas Cook

90% are aborted in the UK.

Caleb Adams
Caleb Adams

90%
This makes me happy

Charles Phillips
Charles Phillips

downsie potato future
Doesn't sound too bad.

Levi Garcia
Levi Garcia

Down syndrome is still happening, they're just offing the downies instead of letting them tard about for years. It hasn't really been eliminated.

Grayson Myers
Grayson Myers

Not really actually. There are a lot of people who actually believe in this who aren't religious zealots, unfortunately.

Blake Hughes
Blake Hughes

some are still arguing that their existence should be valued by society
Why? Serious question. Why would bringing a disfigured, sick human being into existence instead of a healthy one capable of living a normal life be considered a good thing? If anything it's bad. You'd be deliberately causing human suffering when you could have prevented it. If that isn't evil then what is?

James Edwards
James Edwards

Christian virtue signalling. The power of virtue signalling is so strong they're willing to throw away their lives for it. Also a strong belief in an afterlife. They expect a massive reward for it.

Levi Lewis
Levi Lewis

kek

John Kelly
John Kelly

still smarter then most niggers

Henry Stewart
Henry Stewart

I want Chito to abuse me

Justin Jenkins
Justin Jenkins

This is something that always confused me. Apparently supporting abortion is a leftist ideal and the reasoning for the right is that you should have the child no matter what and it has religious ties to this notion. Why isnt it supported by right wingers? Sparta had it right when they wanted to weed out the weak from the strong as soon as possible so as it does not weaken their army or society.

Not only that but keeping some mentally or physically handy capped thing alive is draining on the famil's finances and other resources. Not to mention that you are pretty much devoting your entire life into taking care of it well into adult hood with no prospect of it maturing and getting a job and raising a functioning normal family. So not only are you wasting time and money you are pretty much sealing off your future. I dont get it.

Juan Rogers
Juan Rogers

Yeah, it´s like flushing half of your wage in the toilet for the rest of your life; religionfags and their "pro life"

Austin Thomas
Austin Thomas

This is all those dumbass nazi’s fault. If they hadn’t gone all crazy with that aryan racial bullshit we’d still be able to talk about eugenics without people losing their shit.

For fuck’s sake, we breed animals to give them beneficial characteristics, we should be doing the same thing with people.

Bentley Garcia
Bentley Garcia

Even Lenny was more intelligent than those retards, mainly because he didn´t have down syndrome

Benjamin Hall
Benjamin Hall

You don't eliminate down syndrome it's not a sickness.

You eliminate people with down syndrome before they leave the pussy.

Adrian Kelly
Adrian Kelly

90%
I'm genuinely surprised. I'm curious to know the general abortion rate in the UK for comparison.

Charles Martinez
Charles Martinez

Fucking liberal logic

Women should be able to choose whether or not they want to conceive children or not!
also
Waaaaaah! They're killing away our these poor souls! Our society needs people with Down's!

Tyler Murphy
Tyler Murphy

You don't understand it because you're applying logic. That isn't the point here. The idea is that abortion is morally wrong because their religion says so, and that's the end of the discussion. There is no reasoning involved.

You'll also find that many people who are "pro-life" or "anti-abortion" have a little asterisk next to that, where they think an exception for rape is fine, or for minors, or when asked if women who have abortions should be punished they struggle to come up with an answer. You'll also find that many of them are simply hypocrites, and many "pro-life" figures have had abortions or allowed abortions for family members. Some are also pro-life for themselves but believe others should be allowed to make their own decision. It's not as black and white as it seems.

But that being said, the fundamental disconnect between what you said and their beliefs is a religious conviction that all human life has equal value. There is no reasoning behind it, simply the idea that human beings have souls and fetuses (downie or otherwise) are human beings, therefore abortion is murder, which is wrong because it is a sin.

Brody Young
Brody Young

Don´t forget the welfare, user, the all migthy great welfare from the all gentle government...

Hunter Taylor
Hunter Taylor

Kill retarded babies but not the carrier of these genes? Ya, nah, fuck Iceland

Luis Moore
Luis Moore

You jumped the gun dude. The guy’s saying that DS isn’t the result of a bad gene that causes problems, but rather that bunch of normal genes that cause trouble because of an extra chromosome.

If you’re gonna rock up all “don’t embarrass yourself”, it helps to be right.

Gavin Wilson
Gavin Wilson

Down syndrome isn't heritable, it's random
I guess if you wanted to get rid of Down syndrome completely you could just kill everybody.

Samuel Barnes
Samuel Barnes

So? That’s the *only* acceptable reason for an abortion.

Lincoln Harris
Lincoln Harris

Anyone is allowed to create a thread at anytime. Don't like it? Get the fuck out

Juan Thomas
Juan Thomas

Would not surprise me

Hunter Rogers
Hunter Rogers

The rape part has always pissed me off. Unless you’re just going to go with “fetuses aren’t people so it doesn’t matter”, what the fuck do the circumstances of conception have to do with anything?

Sebastian Taylor
Sebastian Taylor

Hurr durr don't check the catalog because you can do whatever you want bro

Austin Peterson
Austin Peterson

Again, there's no logic to it, it's just "I feel bad for the girl therefore it's okay". For the record I think abortion is fine but treating that as an exception rather than the rule makes no sense.

Woman fucked willingly but impregnated against her will: NO NO SHE HAS TO GIVE BIRTH EVEN THOUGH SHE DOESN'T WANT IT, ALL LIVES MATTER EVEN ONES THAT DON'T EXIST YET

Woman fucked against her will and impregnated against her will: Okay no it's fine murder the baby lol

Luis Howard
Luis Howard

This thread is superior and ur just mad that ur 1st post on Sup Forums got btfo

Jack Murphy
Jack Murphy

not totally random. more likely in older mothers, and taking folic acid supplements lowers the risk.

"random" here just means "probably caused by plastic exposure or some other shit they don't want to admit to"

Elijah Sullivan
Elijah Sullivan

Burger education
It's not a disease you pass over.

Angel Jackson
Angel Jackson

do you see the glory in gods creation or not?

Jayden Cook
Jayden Cook

The american education system

Asher Rivera
Asher Rivera

Terminating downies is unethical

Terminating healthy kids because the mother is a lazy sack of shit is perfectly fine

Brandon Wilson
Brandon Wilson

My girlfriend has a retarded sister who is 16. She looks like she is 6. She can’t feed herself and always shits in diapers. My girlfriend’s parents have been changing diapers for over 20 years and it will probably be much longer than that.

Colton Gonzalez
Colton Gonzalez

Whites would have the same average IQ as chinks if we were less sentimental about retards.

Nathaniel Davis
Nathaniel Davis

Abortion, like all of man's creations, is a tool. Tools can be used, ignored, or abused. No exceptions.

James Richardson
James Richardson

True, also, blame leftists, as far as I remember Japan is mostly conservative

Isaiah Bell
Isaiah Bell

Exactly. Generally speaking, I don’t really have an opinion if we’re talking early in the first trimester. That said, I can’t fucking stand pro-abortion assholes whose only position is: “Abortion is OK whenever *I* decide a want one.”

In the interest of fairness, I don’t much like anti-abortion people either. About the only one’s I have any respect for are the ones bombing clinics and murdering doctors. After all, if you actually believe that infants are being systematically murdered, how the fuck are you standing around with your thumb up your ass doing nothing except maybe occasionally yelling at people?

Both sides are annoying as fuck.

Gavin Morgan
Gavin Morgan

I don't understand the reason Americans would defend dysgenics. Scandinavian socialism works EXACTLY because there aren't useless lumps of flesh soaking up the money.

Zachary Morgan
Zachary Morgan

This is... Actually a pretty based argument when I think about it.

I mean, how could we cure something like that if we never allow it to manifest in the first place? I'm not sure I agree with this line of thought, but I can see the logic in it.

Alexander King
Alexander King

When you find yourself saying “no exceptions”, you’re most likely saying something stupid.

Thomas Williams
Thomas Williams

This - virtue signalling. Same reason they import Somalis to the west in the tens of thousands.

Robert Richardson
Robert Richardson

Are you a downie? Or just an average brain dead burger mutt?

Angel Nguyen
Angel Nguyen

If someone breaks into your home and steals your television, they've committed a crime and you're a victim.

If someone breaks into your home and steals both your television and your computer, they've committed a worse crime, and you're a victim.

If someone attacks you with a bat and you get a concussion, they've committed a crime and you're a victim.

If someone attacks you with a bat and you die, they've committed a worse crime and you're a victim.

If someone rapes you, they've committed a crime and you're a victim.

If someone rapes you and you get pregnant, they've committed a worse crime and you're a victim.

You don't get to say: well, how come I have to be pregnant as a consequence of this crime? That's a component of the wrongdoing you have suffered. You don't get to say, I want to be the victim of a lesser crime, one were I was raped but not impregnated, therefore I am permitted to terminate my pregnancy. You have simply suffered a worse crime.

Adam Hill
Adam Hill

The fear of having a potato for a child is why I will never reproduce

Brandon Hall
Brandon Hall

OI WAADAFAK U SAI CHEEGY WANGAR?!?!

Austin Lopez
Austin Lopez

You don't get to say, I want to be the victim of a lesser crime, one were I was raped but not impregnated, therefore I am permitted to terminate my pregnancy.
Yeah you do. You go to the abortion clinic and have the unwanted pregnancy terminated. I don't follow the line of logic you're trying to use here, if you're attempting to use logic at all. If I were to follow through with your weird analogy, then I could also say

If someone attacks you with a bat and you get a bruise, they've committed a crime and you're a victim.
If someone attacks you with a bat and you get brain damage, they've committed a worse crime and you're a victim.
You don't get to say: well, how come I have to have brain damage as a consequence of this crime? That's a component of the wrongdoing you have suffered. You don't get to say, I want to be the victim of a lesser crime, one were I was attacked but didn't suffer brain damage, therefore I am permitted to go to a neurologist and get treatment for my injury. You have simply suffered a worse crime.

Are you really implying that anyone who's a victim of anything has to simply accept what they've been given and isn't morally allowed to take any steps to ameliorate what's gone wrong for them? From where does that follow?

Ayden Richardson
Ayden Richardson

This so much, why do things have to be black and white? I'm pro abortion but liberals are hurting themselves. Donald Trump is too but conservatives hate him for it. I'm glad we took the label conservative when Trump became president because those cucks like Marco Rubio want abortion even in cases of rape to be outlawed.

Leo Edwards
Leo Edwards

BUT that's eugenics and the NAZIS did that!!!

Caleb Martin
Caleb Martin

why do things have to be black and white?
Because we only have two parties. It is impossible to vote for anything besides black or white (red or blue). You see this in every aspect of our politics, everything is either boiled down to a black-and-white issue because there are only two sides, or it's not discussed at all because both sides agree (even if the people don't).

Brody Walker
Brody Walker

Religious people are applying logic here as well. The idea is that murdering your child is morally wrong because ending innocent human life is a commonly agreed upon moral position for civilized society. It is an extremely consistent position. Fetuses ARE human beings and shouldn't be killed just because they are inconvenient.

The difference here is that a down's syndrome thing isn't a human life, it's like a stillbirth. It may have been human at some point but it no longer retains any of the traits that represent actual humanity. It may be alive but that doesn't afford it the same protections, otherwise everything with a heartbeat should be protected, bugs, stray cats, pavement apes, etc. and that is clearly wrong.

Robert Sullivan
Robert Sullivan

We need eugenics, otherwise the world will end up looking like Brazil

Christian Cooper
Christian Cooper

youtube.com/watch?v=ZtAHGZffoLI

Dylan Diaz
Dylan Diaz

I don't think you should keep something artificially alive that can't survive on it's own, but I don't think you should deliberately kill someone you've deemed as worthless and weak, that's animal tier behavior

Josiah Lopez
Josiah Lopez

Good, the world will be better off without them.

Sebastian Russell
Sebastian Russell

Retards help us reflect on humanity which in a racially homogenous white country would be a good thing

Liam Martinez
Liam Martinez

Nice. Here in shitskin land, eugenics is frowned upon

Jose Brooks
Jose Brooks

Shouldn't you be at mosque right now?

Daniel Torres
Daniel Torres

No one even said anything you tryhard freshman

Ian Bennett
Ian Bennett

Free market dictates that if a thread had reached the end of the catalog it deserved to be overtaken by a newer generation

Jacob Wood
Jacob Wood

Lefty Women from current year
IT IS THE WOMAN'S RIGHT TO HAVE AN ABORTION
YOU CAN'T GET RID OF DOWNIE BABIES YOU ABLIST!!!!!!!!!

Daniel Howard
Daniel Howard

I still don't get why we (and probably most people) had to read this piece of shit book

Hunter Moore
Hunter Moore

it's short and simple, ideal for teaching

James Bennett
James Bennett

We are humans, not museum pieces. It's a similar argument regarding indigenous people, and its bullshit.
Either abortion is amoral or it isn't. If you're going to argue that it's not amoral, this is literally the best use that one could put it to, minimizing human suffering.

Ian Gray
Ian Gray

Legalize abortions!
NO, NOT LIKE THAT!

Zachary Ward
Zachary Ward

History of potatos I assume

Ryan White
Ryan White

To show different types of mercy. George killed lenny bc he knew what the workers wouldve done to him. The guy killed the old mans dog bc it was old and smelled bad.

Thomas Walker
Thomas Walker

Slippery slope

Robert Rodriguez
Robert Rodriguez

this
It promoted ethical killing to children to prime them for abortion, suicide, and potentially war

When I was in school (Christian highschool) 99% of people were for abortion and flipped the fuck out whenever we talked about pro-life stuff, and they'd absolutely berate anyone that disagreed with them.

20 years before that, it'd be the complete opposite, where anti-abortion would be the big thing.

Clearly our education is impacting this.

Ayden Russell
Ayden Russell

Fuck you, I think we should abort all retards and I still cried at the end of that book.

Andrew Powell
Andrew Powell

her body her choice
wait unless it's a retard or nigger baby then you have to keep it ableist shitlord

Jaxon Carter
Jaxon Carter

Sparta had it right when they wanted to weed out the weak from the strong as soon as possible so as it does not weaken their army or society.
You need to be at least 18 years old to post here.

Levi Flores
Levi Flores

Kills Retarded babies
Floods the country with millions of retarded Muslims

mfw

Charles Jackson
Charles Jackson

something on page 10 is important
It was long dead. And that is why we have archives anyway. Stop being a whiny faggot.

David Baker
David Baker

So China gets to abort 80 of all the perfectly normal female fetuses over the course of three decades, but the 'whiteys' in Iceland abort a few thousand downies and suddenly they are evil incarnate?

Get your shirt together. You are being both sexist and racist right now to defend your Marxist anti-ableism.

Levi Long
Levi Long

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