>High-tax, traditionally Democratic states (blue), subsidize low-tax, traditionally Republican states (red) — in a big way.
You people complain about big government, but the truth is that states like New York and California totally fund your ass and give you all those great government benefits. I think blue states should just stop sending you money.
Bentley Morales
what are gubmint subsidies.
Dumb ass beta liberals cabt understand that. Most military bases are in the South. As is agriculture. As well as those super upstanding citizens that leech money off gubmint tit but dont pay taxes and like Basketball Nikes and Newports.
Meanwhile in NYC, hipsters and Democrats are so dumb they need the government to tell that a 21oz soda isn't good for your health and you will get strangled tondeath for avoiding a nickels worth of tax.
Stay mad betacuck liberals.
Jonathan Sanders
>PA Not red... stupid nigger.
Christopher Rogers
Only thing the blue states are funding is leftist degeneracy in other word welfare state. Stop giving money to sngle mother whores, they shouldn't get a penny. Subsidiaries corrupt people t. pole swimming in EU subsidiaries.
Joseph James
>It is true that taxpayers in high-tax states benefit the most from the deduction. However, these states send far more tax dollars to Washington than residents in low-tax states.
>mixing federal taxes with state >mixing poor people with rich SALT deductions benefit high tax states more than low tax states since the deduction end of being larger However, blue states pay more in overall fed. taxes because they have higher incomes because poor people wouldn't be able to afford to live in a state with high taxes
>tfw the republican party is the party for the poor because they can't afford to live in blue states.
Angel Clark
that map is from 2004 retard
Aaron Green
>everyone in a Dem. state votes Democrat The ones who actually make the money in blue states are Republicans living in Democrat cities.
Juan Nguyen
Beat me to it.
Literally the only thing we have in common with shitlib CA and NYC is hating neocons. Otherwise I'd rather just throw in with the south.
Zachary Ward
The only shit blue state taxes fund in red states is all the shitty welfare programs for the niggers you dump on us.
Jordan Moore
Whoever says this shit doesn't understand how basic egonomigs works.
The Red states that recieve more federal funding than they give back in taxes are also highly populated by niggers (look up the Black Belt, named for it's black soil and black niggers). Since it's proven that black people do nothing but take in welfare, and of course don't pay taxes, yes these 30% black states would have a significant deifict. By saying that these red states have deficits, you're actually admitting that niggers are bad for the economy.
Jonathan Ward
no one's forcing you to have high taxes, dumbocrats
Robert Davis
I thought you Democucks loved socialism, it helps the needy, poor blacks and poor whites live in the red zone in need your taxes high so they can get gibs, you aren't the proletariat comrade.
Ryder Campbell
Farm bill in the Midwest (started under FDR, a fucking Democrat), niggers in the South. There, that's 99% of the welfare you just described, and it has nothing to do with hardworking whites. Saged.
Christopher Bell
Source?
Owen Torres
>muh niggers
Joseph Watson
>21 oz Man don't go to the city, you'll get depressed. I stopped for some chicken when I went to pick up some mash buckets and fuckin medium soda is 32 full ounces now. A full goddamned quart of diabetic sugar juice, for like a buck and half.
Chase Bennett
>gets disproved with hard facts and sources >attempts a lame meme to discredit Absolute state of shills.
Xavier Martin
le shilly shilly shilly shill shill XDDDD!!!!!
Aiden Anderson
>t. 44% What's it like losing yo a leaf, paco?
Robert Cooper
ebin XDDDD
Wyatt Parker
When you have pride in yourself you are less willing to take gibs (because it is deeply shameful to be a burden on your fellow citizens, obviously) and thus you vote against the state giving gibs (or taking taxes to gibs less moral people in the community).
This means, to democrat morons, you are "poor". To us it means we take care of our selves and the community without needing the government to be involved.
You liberal morons can all go straight to hell when the gibs run out, bitches.
Brandon Harris
Here you go
Brandon Bell
Update your map cuck map fag
Alexander Thompson
>complain about subsidizing poor red states >meanwhile, still advocate more welfare and programs to funnel more of your money to red states
At best you guys are useful idiots, at worst you're just literally retarded.
Logan Bailey
Where does that say anything about Republicans in cities being richer?
Jack Brown
maps bullshit illinois can't even fund itself
Dylan Edwards
you're a fucking homo who needs to die of AIDS already t. real america
Ayden Brooks
Rather live with "dumb hicks" than stupid shitskins. Go live with the niggers, faggot.
Brody Fisher
>make money in a blue state >retire to a red state; live like a king >blue state goes bankrupt
get fucked, demoshits
Jayden Jones
If Blue states were funding the US, then why are high tax blue states paying more under Trumps tax cuts than the rest of the US?
Oh yeah, because they ended State and Local tax exemptions. Kinda as if the rest of the US was subsidizing blue state sheep, huh
Luis Nelson
hmm...
Colton Edwards
Secede then
Noah Davis
...
Hudson Robinson
Blue states stop paying tax Red states stop making food for blue state city libs
William Brown
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Jason Roberts
>tfw in NY state and voted for Trump
Am I going to be screwed by proxy bros.....?
Jayden Carter
I get a kick out of the Democrats in my home town bitching about their taxes going up. I grew up on the Connecticut gold coast MN. The average income is over double the national average, the average property is close to a million dollars. These entitled fucks aren't asking for the rich to get taxed, their asking for the OTHER rich people to get taxed.
Zachary Wood
Good. Make yourself useful since you're all a bunch of traitors.
Gabriel Ward
>mfw I live in a blue state that is a drain on other blue states checkmate liberals
Luis King
Got any more?
Sebastian Kelly
Guess what moron, that's the socialism you dreamed of, blame democrats. Want less of "this" vote red.
Austin Turner
>In fact, most high-tax states send more money to Washington than they get back in federal spending.
So, you’re saying that states that charge more taxes actually send more money to the federal government? Who would have thought?
Jaxson Peterson
>military bases
So... rural and suburban retards being paid to jerk off all day to cuck porn?
Lincoln Ramirez
Wrong. Many blue state do not live within their means, as they are able to write off their high state tax as a deduction, making them essentially leach off of their red state neighbors. You liberals in NY, WI and CA {among other states) are f*cked if the tax bill does away with this deduction, many of your producers will leave in a mass exodus, as Cuomo of NY has already whined liked a baby about this proposal.
Ryan Torres
Its urban vs rural....Sorry, urban cannot decide what is best for rural...The Great Depression of the 30's? Didn't exist for the rurals, we grew our own food anyway...What money crunch?
Carson Jones
What if all the food growers stopped being market growers and only grew enough for themselves? and their families? Or enough to trade with friends? Does the Urban power die down at that point? This is basic economics...We don't rely upon you...Its Visa Versa...
Joseph Clark
I don't want New York or California to fund my life.
That's disgusting.
Samuel Sullivan
They don't.....Its the other way around....
Alexander Sanders
Well, I guess the truth shut this thread down...Fast.....
Austin Lee
And they can keep doing so, now without deducting their contributions via SALT.
Also, if blue states are picking up the tab, then who is REALLY the smart ones? The people who get more than they give, or the ones who give more than they get, year after year?
Julian Bennett
This is also the reason Hollywood is now filming more things in places like Georgia, Louisiana and Ohio. California is a taxed up cesspool and they can't make a profit by filming there yet so many Republican states welcome them in without taxing the absolute fuck out of them. It also ends up employing thousands in those states during the filming. Democrats destroy most anything they touch given enough time.
Nolan Ward
Nice try...the Hunger Games wasn't just a shitty Hollywood plot....
Nathan Torres
It's tradeoff for living in a developed part of the country away from all the dirt and hill people.
Wyatt Sullivan
Not to mention if you're dumbass enough to think state taxes go to other states you are the problem in this country. Federal taxes are no larger in blue states than they are in red states.
Colton Sullivan
States don't pay taxes, taxpayers do. And in both blue and red states, Republicans pay the taxes, and Democrats get the checks.
Colton Flores
>local inflation increases cost of living in cities >higher salaries are needed for the same cost of living >higher salaries result in higher taxes >lower salaries/wages result in more welfare
Democrats literally fuel this effect that you're describing.
Tyler Long
*subsidies dude
Charles Miller
The soil smells wonderful, and the "Hill People" will save your butt if push comes to shove.....Sorry you buy the stereotypes ....
Xavier Sanchez
Can confirm. Grew up in Boston. I've lived in Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska, New Hampshire, Maine, Maryland, and West Virginia since then. I won't even visit the coastal states anymore. City people don't realize how badly cities smell. NYC reeks of urine about as strongly as a feedlot, to say nothing about the noise, congestion, and cost of living.
Ethan Sanders
They've been sold a pup. and buy into it like its the ultimate in living? Sad, sad people...
Mason Ward
Blue States are rich because they actually have advanced economies that they built from properly having infrastructure, and funding good schools that create skilled labor. There's a reason why a lot of deep-red states like Oklahoma and Kansas turn to shit holes whenever their mining / farming / oil industry has a bad season. Most social spending in Red-states are from medicare and social security. Actual welfare (TANF) is given to States as block-grants which they can largely distribute at will. A lot of red-states just pocket most of it. Farm subsidiaries are only $25 billion for the entire nation. To make blue states pay more for the tax cuts. Taxes raised by State and local governments rarely get sent to the federal government. What really is happening is that most Blue States, even while using SALT, generate more revenue from the economy that they have than most Red-states, partially because a lot of them properly and fully invest in infrastructure and their labour. >What is the dust bowl the great depression caused a massive rural emigration to cities. Most farmers weren't subsistence ones who lived in their own little villages and were self-sufficient, but people who got loans from the bank for their land and equipment and got fucked up when the financial market collapsed and those things repo'd after crop prices dropped.
Julian Hernandez
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Dominic Moore
Imagine if blue states stopped funding Blacks and Hispanics AND stopped funding red states! We'd be loaded.
Noah Adams
Who convinced the lower class to migrate to the prairie and start "dry farming"? What technique did he enspouse? After the Dustbowl, what happened to this man? What wheat seed did he endorse? and why?
Colton Adams
Dude, I'm actually on your side in alot of ways....The "loans" killed these people...
Parker Cooper
> Blue high-tax states fund red low-tax states So who's the dummy exactly?
Luis Morgan
I agree, raise taxes on California and New York and lower taxes everywhere else.
Mason Martin
Follow the facts, my darling, its all about the money......
Adam Anderson
yeah...and yet cities generally are more fitter, whereas red states harbor all the fatasses. really gets the mind going...
Asher Anderson
The red states are actually the ones supporting the blue states. The red states produce tangible goods where the blue states produce intelectual properties and bank debt real estate bullshit.
Michael Watson
I went to pick up some mash buckets and fuckin medium soda is 32 full ounces now. A full goddamned quart of diabetic sugar juice, for like a buck and half. "This is the highlight of your life?/Complaints? Grow the hell up....
Carter Smith
originally from PA saw more stars and bars than stars and stripes growing up. wasnt until history class i found out we were niggerlovers too. and where the fuck did all these putta rickins come from?
Xavier Lewis
>counts spics among whites >a fucking leaf >expects to be taken seriously
Jeremiah Turner
Hope they pay you enough to post this type of thing....we are logging who you are...
Henry Martin
This may be surprising but there are actually more than 9 states in the US and cherry picking the 9 with the most extreme tax collected/received numbers isn't indicative of the entire country.
Alexander Barnes
Imagine some states with the high State Income Taxes not being allowed to exempt all of that money before Fed taxes....That might hurt...Which states are those? Doesn't hurt the rest of the 48 or so states....Hmmmmm are they Blue?
John Young
C'mon bots.....are you that shitty"
Dylan Jackson
Why the big pause? You people are not obvious at all....
Ayden Torres
no asians?
Carter Kelly
Live in America...see several logical fallacies in your posts...
Henry King
Some states take in more government gibs than they pay for....Hmmmmm are they Red?
Elijah Carter
Proven that "black people" only take in welfare? Who might be the "Rayciss" dip here? Keep trying.....and keep talking...
Easton Cook
Most black people live in the southeast... (aka dumbfuckistan)
what did they mean by this?
Jayden Phillips
Who do you see?
Brayden Morgan
You might want to ask "who meant this?"
Gavin Turner
CA and NY run huge deficits every year. IN and TN have balanced budget amendments and managed to make it every year. But really this argument is completely skewed by all the blacks and Latinx that live in the southern states- which the liberals have forced upon this once great nation! No more blacks and Mexicans and suddenly no more federal spending for welfare necessary, plus wages rise as a function of supply and demand (taking into account the mexis that work and aren't on welfare).
Evan Rogers
Aaaaandd once again the thread dies if you ask real questions
Luis Mitchell
Stop muddying the waters...Stick to the basics...Be part of America? or not?
Hudson Mitchell
++Yes, CA and NY run huge deficits....Who pays for those? What laws did they enact to "allow" for us to pay for those losses?
Logan Campbell
>Be part of America? or not? Secede or not secede, is that your question?
Blake Gomez
We had a civil war...Did our young men run to another country, or stand up for their land? And work it out in the end....?
Eli Brooks
Washington is voting wise blue but land mass wise and industry wise it's actually red. California is the same. Most of northern Cali swings red.
It's the cities full of low life hippies which swing the state to blue, OP.
Wyatt Mitchell
DC is not a state. Its a private enterprise...look it up....
Jack Barnes
>And work it out in the end....? Depends on who you ask.
Isaiah Collins
If california is so fucking rich and swimming in cash, why did Brown stick a gas tax to pay for our own road maintenance?
Camden Kelly
>welfare parasite archipelago
Dylan Miller
The South said "no" to the tariffs enacted by the (((north))) where they could not sell their products overseas....They were squeezed....
Grayson Campbell
That is a very good question you might want to ask your elected officials...You might not like the answer you get...
Eli Gray
Fine with me. Let's balkanize. See how fast your economy crumbles.