Can anyone refute my political/social stance?

David Sanders
David Sanders

What's the point of white nationalism when we will be able to alter genes themselves?Technological augmentation will make race redundant. It's not worth overthrowing our current system to install some insane fascist dictatorship when we can wait out for technology to solve our problems peacefully.

Yes, i'm still a race realist and support practical methods to keep the peace in the interim, but white nationalism is not the answer. Technological progress will create a new paradigm which will make issues like the racial iq/temperament gap solvable via genetic engineering/AI. Why will being white matter when genetic engineering can give anyone 150+ IQ? Nationalism and traditionalism can not survive such a powerful change. If anything the rich will become the new master race.

A generous democratic socialist system will be a better guiding hand than a fascist dictatorship when the singularity comes because of it's inherent humanist principles.

So far no one has made a compelling case for an ethnostate that takes into account rapid technological change that will by its very nature make traditionalism impossible and race redundant.

Matthew Foster
Matthew Foster

Lad or lass, I'd rape that ass.

Samuel Powell
Samuel Powell

when we will be able to alter genes themselves
You will need living white people for that to be possible. White people will not be alive once humanity finds out how to perfectly alter genes.

Angel Jenkins
Angel Jenkins

Rude

But if it can done, what will hold an ethnostate together if not their shared genetics?

Ryder Smith
Ryder Smith

Whats the point of anything when we will create a matrix like virtual reality where we all will have our own universe effectively being gods?

"things that dont exist yet will make X obsolete isn't an argument"

Also you will never create that with a world of 56%'s running around. Without diversity we'fd probably have Nuclear powered jets or some shit

Josiah Gomez
Josiah Gomez

lol I meant to put the first line in quotations not the 2nd

Easton Lee
Easton Lee

No.

We are going to be techo-fascists.

Brandon Smith
Brandon Smith

What's the point of white nationalism when we will be able to alter genes themselves?
First you would have to prove that it's possible in the way you want it to be

Luis Phillips
Luis Phillips

Whats the point of anything when we will create a matrix like virtual reality where we all will have our own universe effectively being gods?

I actually do believe this is the end goal of mankind. Genetic engineering is just a bridge to that. Even Kaczynski recognized it.

Aiden Miller
Aiden Miller

"What's the point of white nationalism when we will be able to alter genes themselves?"
Entire political stance is based on a hypothetical
ROFLMAO

Asher Rivera
Asher Rivera

Race argumentation isn’t practical. Who want to argument their children’s DNA it makes them almost not even their kids and they’re genetically altered

Connor Bennett
Connor Bennett

What's the point of white nationalism when we will be able to alter genes themselves?
Because our race is much more than our genes. It is our history, society and culture.

Technological augmentation will make race redundant.
No, it won't.

t's not worth overthrowing our current system to install some insane fascist dictatorship
You mean a pro-White government instilling pro-White beliefs?

You sound like an anti-White.

when we can wait out for technology to solve our problems peacefully.
What makes you think that will happen when the world is increasingly becoming non-White?

Yes, i'm still a race realist
No you're not. You sound like a faggot. Especially posting faggot pics like those.

A generous democratic socialist system will be a better guiding hand than a fascist dictatorship when the singularity comes because of it's inherent humanist principles.
You're an anti-White Judeo Communist. Fuck off and die.

Elijah Rogers
Elijah Rogers

also I believe there will be unforeseen pathologies if you tamper with human nature like that.

Elijah Hall
Elijah Hall

We can barely modify tomatoes without fucking it up, you really think that we will be able to master modifying human genes within a century?

Within a century, unless radical action is taken by whites, the race will be largely extinct. Who makes the bulk of innovation in sciences? That's right, whites - a high percentage of that, Germans. Without them, we will never reach the level of technology you describe.

Nolan Morgan
Nolan Morgan

You will need living white people for that to be possible.

The Chinese are actually doing it far more than whites.

Camden Ortiz
Camden Ortiz

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Nathan Diaz
Nathan Diaz

What would techno fascists even be like? Nazi cyborgs?

Is it a valid assumption to make or not?

You're getting mad because you're realizing your paradigm cannot survive. Technology will eventually alter human beings so much that an ethnostate will be ridiculous and traditionalism untenable.

It is our history, society and culture.

Culture is an expression of race.

No, it won't.

It most likely will. Look at this overall history of mankind to see where we're headed.

You mean a pro-White government instilling pro-White beliefs?

Yes. A fascist dictatorship will be the only ones willing to stomp on human rights to remove non whites from western nations.

What makes you think that will happen when the world is increasingly becoming non-White?

Because scientific progress is exponential. Look at the progress we've made in the last thousand years compared to everything that can before.

Angel Carter
Angel Carter

inb4
buh but the asians and the arabs will be able to jumpstart the singularity and i'll be able to live in a virtual world with my furry trans waifu! who cares if the white race is extinct by then?!?! I don't! I only care about myself and my sexual pleasure!

Jeremiah Brooks
Jeremiah Brooks

ill believe that when I see it

William Ortiz
William Ortiz

when we will be able to alter genes themselves?Technological augmentation will make race redundant. It's not worth overthrowing our current system to install some insane fascist dictatorship when we can wait out for technology to solve our problems peacefully.
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about
le science will take care of it :3

David Hill
David Hill

A generous democratic socialist system will be a better guiding hand than a fascist dictatorship when the singularity comes because of it's inherent humanist principles.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Oliver Nguyen
Oliver Nguyen

Yes, i'm sure it's a very complicated process but not impossible.

Within a century, unless radical action is taken by whites, the race will be largely extinct.

Whites still have almost a century before their in dire straits. I think we will have reached substantial progress by then.

Easton King
Easton King

Would you rather live in North Korea or Sweden when large parts of the population become redundant?

Leo Harris
Leo Harris

wait a second, that moustache...

Sebastian Stewart
Sebastian Stewart

Oh you think humanism will still apply once human genetic engineering starts? That's Cute. Once you open that Pandora's Box there will only be hyper-evolution and the most brutal interpretation of the Will to Power.

Daniel Martinez
Daniel Martinez

You're getting mad because you're realizing your paradigm cannot survive.
You mean you've accepted White Genocide as not only fact but as a good thing so therefore so should I?

Technology will eventually alter human beings so much
What makes you think technology will advance in a third-world mud colored world?

that an ethnostate will be ridiculous and traditionalism untenable.
You mean that we should just accept the destruction of all that we are and love because "hurr durr tech is preferable!"

Culture is an expression of race.
And without the White race, White culture would not exist.

It most likely will.
No, it won't. You want it to so you can justify supporting your anti-White beliefs.

Look at this overall history of mankind to see where we're headed.
You mean Whites being White for thousands of years but only recently being undermined by the Jews therefore we must die?

Yes.
Exactly. You're anti-White.

A fascist
There's literally nothing wrong with fascism.

dictatorship
There's literally nothing wrong with a dictatorship that puts the White race first and foremost.

will be the only ones willing to stomp on human rights
What "human rights?" Faggotry is not a right. Racemixing is not a right. Porn is not a right.

to remove non whites from western nations.
Non-Whites don't belong in White nations.

Because scientific progress is exponential.
Not when there aren't any more Whites and all White countries become third-world non-White countries.

Look at the progress we've made in the last thousand years compared to everything that can before.
All that is because of Whites, not in spite of it.

You can't name a single nigger invention yet you think they'll continue on as Whites have?

Gabriel Turner
Gabriel Turner

False shoop!

Possible. But either way traditionalism cannot survive in the long run.

Once you open that Pandora's Box there will only be hyper-evolution and the most brutal interpretation of the Will to Power.

I can see China or North Korea doing this but not some place like Sweden or the UK. Could be wrong though. It's likely the first people who augment themselves will quickly become a separate race.

Luis Rogers
Luis Rogers

Whites still have almost a century before their in dire straits.
We're already in dire straits.

We'll be a minority in most White countries by 2050.

Every year the median age of the White race gets older.

Anti-White beliefs are ramping up at an amazing pace.

In 50 years it could be very well illegal to be White.

Just admit you hate the White race and wish it extinct.

It'll make this debate easier.

But either way traditionalism cannot survive in the long run.
You don't want traditionalism to survive because you hate what traditionalism teaches.

Daniel Turner
Daniel Turner

You can clearly see what a "humanist socialist (((((((democracy)))))))" thinks of its population when it becomes redundant (they arrest people who speak up about their replacement as they are slaughtered in the street). Id trust Hitler anyday over one of your (((democratically elected politicians)))

Josiah Bennett
Josiah Bennett

Genetic purity and improvement is white nationalis you dumb fucking reddit nigger. Your probably the same guy who posted that “black guy here, why don’t white nationalists increase black iq” thread to get money from shareblue you dumb fuckig cunt. Rot in hell Jew.

Josiah Butler
Josiah Butler

You mean you've accepted White Genocide as not only fact but as a good thing so therefore so should I?

Where did i say white genocide was a good thing? I don't believe in a conspiracy to destroy whites but do realize the effects of demographic changes in a nation. Mostly it's just whites not wanting to have more kids.

What makes you think technology will advance in a third-world mud colored world?

Because all technologies eventually trickle down. Cell phone, car etc.

You mean that we should just accept the destruction of all that we are and love because "hurr durr tech is preferable!"

Tech probably will be preferable. But either way, its an inevitability. Read the unabomber manifesto. Do you really think whites will exist in their current form 200 years from now?

You're anti-White.

How so?

There's literally nothing wrong with fascism.

You can't criticize or peacefully remove a fascist government.

What "human rights?" Faggotry is not a right. Racemixing is not a right. Porn is not a right.

Jesus. Those are actually all rights a human being should have.

Non-Whites don't belong in White nations.

Debatable, but they're not leaving now.

Not when there aren't any more Whites and all White countries become third-world non-White countries.

This will take nearly 100 years. I think we'll have most of the technology by then. Compare 1917 to 2017.

All that is because of Whites, not in spite of it.

Didn't say that.

You can't name a single nigger invention yet you think they'll continue on as Whites have?

Blacks are probably not as smart as whites. Don't see where this is going though.

Isaiah Rivera
Isaiah Rivera

Just admit you hate the White race and wish it extinct.

That's not true though. Why would you assume that?

You don't want traditionalism to survive because you hate what traditionalism teaches.

I actually agree with the unabombers assessment of the effects of the modern industrial age. Traditionalism is adherence to a 'natural' way of life in accordance to our evolutionary origins. It cannot be sustained in a society that is constantly changing.

Thomas Perry
Thomas Perry

The technology will be expensive at first and we wait for it to achieve low cost and high quality then it'll be too late. The northeast Asians might make themselves into 6' hapas with 150 IQs but Jewish-controlled nations will stratify into a mulatto-mestizo underclass and a Jewish overclass.

Wyatt Wood
Wyatt Wood

Where did i say white genocide was a good thing?
When you act as if there's nothing wrong with it.

How so?
You support the beliefs and policies that will cause the extinction/genocide of the White race.

Do you really think whites will exist in their current form 200 years from now?
Yes.

Those are actually all rights a human being should have.
No they shouldn't. You can't prove that faggotry is a human right.

Debatable, but they're not leaving now.
We'll make them leave.

Don't see where this is going though.
You can't expect non-Whites to take the place of Whites when non-Whites are inferior to Whites.

Why would you assume that?
You support faggotry. You are a faggot yourself, are you not?
You support racemixing.
You support porn.
You support non-Whites living in White countries.
You oppose pro-Whites who wish to save the White race.
you've accepted the extinction of the White race and pass it off as a good thing.

In what way are you pro-White?

Jose Hughes
Jose Hughes

This.

Who knows when we'll reach that state of knowledge and if the people who discover it actually share it with the rest of the world. Who says that it'll be used to improve the entire human race and not 0.1% of the race who use their superiority to wipe the rest out. Another question is how will you improve everyone? Will you force them to take alter-my-dna pill? What about those who don't want to? What if most people don't trust it and don't want it, what then?

Yes our knowledge is going up fast and exponentially, however ask yourself how much of that is actually useful and impacts our lives on a larger scale. Is this technology something like Nikola Tesla made who super boosted us 100 years into the future or some new web site development framework that is like 5% better than its competitors and still gets listed as new tech. Look at how many new big things have been hyped in the past and yet they're still nothing more than a concept even today. A great example of this is 5th generation of computers, AI, self writing code etc, they were hyping it 25 years ago as "any moment now" yet we're not close to it even now 25 years later. Sure, some technologies are rising exponentially, but who said DNA modification is.

Ayden Mitchell
Ayden Mitchell

The technology will be expensive at first and we wait for it to achieve low cost and high quality then it'll be too late.

True. If there are too many regulations and burdens in the western world the north east asians will surge ahead. In all likelihood the rich will become their own race.

Christopher Perez
Christopher Perez

When you act as if there's nothing wrong with it.

I appreciate the white race for their innovation and temperament. If through technology a better race could be created, then i could care less what happens to a redundant race other then that they are taken care of.

You support the beliefs and policies that will cause the extinction/genocide of the White race.

Actually, i don't support anything. The white race, and likely the entire human race, will change dramatically. I neither support or nor are against it. I simply see the writing on the wall.

Yes.

They won't? How about 300 years from now? Part of what turned me off from the idea of an ethnostate is that whites and humans in general won't exist in the future as they exist today. No use preserving something that will only last 100 or 200 years at most.

Again, look at the change in the world from 1917 to 2017. Now imagine it from 2017 to 2117.

We'll make them leave.

No, you won't. That would require a fascist dictatorship which is very unlikely in the west.

Lucas Walker
Lucas Walker

I can see China or North Korea doing this but not some place like Sweden or the UK

You're conceited to think that you can somehow get outside of evolution. Consider that each individual person (let alone each nation) has a different conception of what makes a superior human being. Imagine the kind of human being a socjus soyboy would consider an 'improvement' vs. what an anarchist or a fascist would try to create.

Collectivists throughout history have tried time and time again to create a more empathetic communitarian humanity and have seen nothing but failure. They tried with Christianity promoting a vision of the Kingdom of God where the lion would lay down with the lamb. When that failed they tried again by way of economic planning in the form of Marxism. And when that failed and they lost hope following the events of Paris (May 1968) they tried again with top-down planning of the socio-cultural sphere (modern socjus). They WILL try again, this time by bio-engineering an 'improved' human being with jacked up feelings of empathy and compassion and a hard dampening of any kind of negative emotion, such as fear and anger.

Meanwhile other individuals (or nations) with entirely different conceptions of what the Human is might engineer towards a more intelligent and rational subspecies, placing less emphasis on any kind of emotion. Others could lean towards a hardier, more aggressive and more rapidly reproducing subspecies.

The problem now becomes this; once human values and intellectual constructs are built right into the genome how exactly do you mediate between disagreeing parties by way of discussion? There's nothing these new peoples could agree on, their perception of reality and how they value different phenomena would not be compatible. Do you imagine they'd tolerate their differences and live in harmony? Is one polluted and increasingly resource-depleted planet big enough for radically different monsters who would have nothing in common?

Jeremiah Flores
Jeremiah Flores

I appreciate the white race for their innovation and temperament.
Oh you "appreciate"

If through technology a better race could be created,
How can you improve upon God's design? What makes you think you have that right?

then i could care less
So you're saying you care a little bit?

what happens to a redundant race other then that they are taken care of.
Interesting how only the White race is "redundant" huh?

Actually, i don't support anything.
And by your lack of support you're anti-White.

The white race, and likely the entire human race,
There's no such thing as the human race. It's the human species. That error gives away the fact that you're an anti-White.

I simply see the writing on the wall.
And that writing is: THE WHITE RACE MUST DIE

They won't? How about 300 years from now?
If we make the 14 words a reality, yes we will. Because we'll have stopped your anti-White program of White genocide.

Part of what turned me off from the idea of an ethnostate is that whites and humans in general won't exist in the future as they exist today.
That and you're anti-White and wouldn't be welcome in the White Ethnostate anyways.

No use preserving something that will only last 100 or 200 years at most.
...Because you say so.

No, you won't.
Yes, we will.

That would require a fascist dictatorship which is very unlikely in the west.
What makes you think we're giving you the fucking option you anti-White faggot?

You either leave or eat a bullet.

Our racial survival trumps your feelings.

Again, look at the change in the world from 1917 to 2017. Now imagine it from 2017 to 2117.
So obviously the solution is to destroy the White race.

Jordan Powell
Jordan Powell

So obviously the solution is to destroy the White race.
It's too late Schlomo, your goyim army of ISIS is destroyed, the west wants nothing to do in the middle east after 2 decades of war and a massive refugee crisis which is still ongoing.

You failed, israel will fall.

Grayson Barnes
Grayson Barnes

How can you improve upon God's design? What makes you think you have that right?

The judeo christian god doesn't exist and humans have always sought to improve themselves. It's as much a right as breathing.

So you're saying you care a little bit?

I care that everyone is taking care of and not exterminated.

Interesting how only the White race is "redundant" huh?

All unaugmented races will become redundant.

And by your lack of support you're anti-White.

I'm not anti white. I just don't think the white race will exist in it's current form in 200 years so creating an ethnostate to preserve that race is a pointless waste of a bloody fascist revolution.

And that writing is: THE WHITE RACE MUST DIE

Yes. It will change. Change is the only constant in life. That alone makes traditionalism untenable.

Because we'll have stopped your anti-White program of White genocide.

You can't stop technology. The white race will die sooner or later, and most likely by the way of augmentation.

Christopher Flores
Christopher Flores

i miss rose

Jason Sanders
Jason Sanders

The judeo christian
There's no such thing as judeo Christianity.

god doesn't exist
Of course you say that. That way you can justify your support for the extinction of the White race.

I care that everyone is taking care of and not exterminated.
Don't want to be exterminated? Get the fuck out of the White country you're in. You don't belong here anyways.

All unaugmented races will become redundant.
You sound like a fucking Borg.

I'm not anti white. I just don't think the white race will exist in it's current form in 200 years so creating an ethnostate to preserve that race is a pointless waste of a bloody fascist revolution.
Because you're an enemy of the White race.

Yes. It will change. Change is the only constant in life. That alone makes traditionalism untenable.
yeah the White race has only existed for thousands, if not tens of thousands of years but it must cease to exist because of your view of technology.

You can't stop technology.
You can when you're living in a idiocracy brought about by the extinction of the White race.

The white race will die sooner or later,
And you're perfectly fine with it being sooner.

Ethan Hall
Ethan Hall

How many times are you going to make this thread? Are you a Jew or some kind of autist? I appreciate that you change the OP image and even mix around a few of the words, but it doesn't change the fact you keep making the same thread over and over and over again.

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