/mg/ - Monarchist General: St. Nicholas Edition

Robert Campbell
Robert Campbell

/mg/ - Monarchist General

Edition: St. Nicholas is coming to town

This is a thread for the discussion of Monarchism, Culture and Traditionalism.

Resources:

pastebin.com/LyfpyJPt

Q/A:
Q: Why do you support a dead ideology?
A: Ideologies do not die, they are merely abandoned by the ignorant masses. If Monarchism is dead, then National Socialism has been dead for seventy years, and Communism the last two decades.

Q: Are nations such as North Korea monarchist just because they have a singular and absolute ruler?
A: No, North Korea is a Communist Dictatorship - and goes against many values of Monarchism such as the strong connections to Tradition and Culture which the North Koreans have replaced with a mindless cult. The characterization of North Korea has a Monarchy is an ignorant and loose connection based entirely on one facet of Monarchism, Hereditary inheritance, which is not even a universal - but extremely common - belief among monarchists.

Q: Wouldn't Hereditary Succession allow madmen to get in power simply by birth?
A: No, the Rightful heir would by default be tutored and educated from birth to rule as a proper and efficient leader. In this way a Monarchy allows a much more smoother transition of power and long-term stability than democracy or a dictatorship.

Q: Is Monarchism inherently authoritarian?
A: This is a huge mis-characterization of monarchism and history in General. Various different forms of Monarchy can occur from Absolutism to Constitutionalism and everything in between; the existence of a Monarch does not automatically mandate that the various rights and freedoms of the people should then be culled. Take a look at states such as Liechtenstein for a modern example of this.

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Aiden Martin
Aiden Martin

Absolutism is best, hands down. Sorry lolbergs.

Parker Thompson
Parker Thompson

bump

Jackson Diaz
Jackson Diaz

Florida can suck my knob. It's the taint of the South.

Asher Jackson
Asher Jackson

Christian monarchist flag

Parker Hill
Parker Hill

Semi-Constitutionalism ftw

Jordan Johnson
Jordan Johnson

Do you have to be provocative m8?

Luis Nelson
Luis Nelson

it may be the best... for you

Kevin Clark
Kevin Clark

2nd to join the CSA, friend

David Roberts
David Roberts

What does /mg/ think of having a monarchy where an AI is the monarch?

Camden Cooper
Camden Cooper

Yes, yes I do.

Jose Roberts
Jose Roberts

wanting a monarch who'd inevitably be just another normie degenerate when you could have a dictatorship of a virtuous individual
shiggy diggy

what autism is this

Logan Hall
Logan Hall

Completely insane. Robots should never rule humans. I can't tell if you're even serious.

Julian Hall
Julian Hall

Uhm.. sweetie... what was that?

Nathan Jenkins
Nathan Jenkins

I bet u worship hitler fag

Gavin Turner
Gavin Turner

inevitably

What about it makes it inevitable for a monarch - the literal highest person in the nation - to be a normie, while a dictator shall not be? Is it the being tutored all of their youth for the sole purpose of being a virtuous leader?

Brayden Cook
Brayden Cook

You sure that's not King George V?

Whatever the case, the monarch is a stooge if he is not also a national socialist. This is why the Habsburg empire fell, because Austrian-German monarchs appeased Czechs and Magyars when they should have been thinking of their own people.

Russia needs no Tsar. It has a Vozhd. One who fights for the people, asserts their wishes, and protects their interests.

Camden Morgan
Camden Morgan

Absolutism
Found the bootlicker cuck

Russian style monarchy is best

Monarchy+democratic elements (Sobod, Zemchina)

Represents the from all over Russia would come together from all classes and professions and Elect a Tear in times of need or discuss praying national matters and form Laws

This is how all earliest russsia lawyer were written and how the Romanics were established

Contrary to Democrapsy this is true Unitarian and nationalism as decision was void eleven if ONE memember of the Sobor disagreed, and that with 500plus people

Total national unity before dictatorship of a few parlamentary political hacks

This is why Jews did 1917, they knew they could crush that combo otherwise

Jackson Barnes
Jackson Barnes

If the US becomes a monarchy, who would be their king?

Lucas Fisher
Lucas Fisher

Exactly. And, as we all know, Hitler was a degenerate. Bastard liked to have women squat over him and piss on him.

Jacob Stewart
Jacob Stewart

I don't think I could ever fully trust it.

Adrian Williams
Adrian Williams

Robots should never rule humans
Why not though? An artificial superintelligence would have far more access to humanity's collective knowledge, be much more intelligent, and be far more rational than a human.

Julian Cruz
Julian Cruz

The bloodline of the monarch would be superior to that of regular plebians, and there's always the monarchy where the monarch chooses his successor - it doesn't *need* to be passed down to his children.

Monarchy is dictatorship of the virtuous individual continued past one lifespan to me, so you should be rather drawn to it. How the monarchy is instated would affect a lot, but that applies to dictators.

Michael James
Michael James

And you could fully trust a human monarch?

Dominic Anderson
Dominic Anderson

Probably the patriarch of the House of Washington, or it would be a Napoleon-esque scenario.

Leadership is not just rationality but empathy. One must have empathy to truly love their own people and exert nationalist tendencies; pure, unadulterated rationalism leads to materialistic regimes void of humanity.

Eli Adams
Eli Adams

bootlicker cuck

topkek buddy
There's nothing remotely bad with giving the monarch absolute power on paper. That doesn't mean legislatures and parliaments can't exist. It just means that if it came down to it, the monarch has absolute authority over the country.

Cameron Mitchell
Cameron Mitchell

Dictatorship
Virtuous individual
The only and biggest case of dictator in Goymany was someone who had women shit on him and was hooked on various drug and caused more deaths of whites than any other person in world history

Lel ,kys brainlet

Bismarck knew the way

Angel Flores
Angel Flores

The bloodline of the monarch would be superior to that of regular plebians,
would it now?

William Stewart
William Stewart

Probably the one most suited to the task, at the time. Going after someone related to Washington is stupid. If it ever became necessary that the US would have a leader like that, there'd be an obvious choice at that time.

Colton Davis
Colton Davis

No one is worthy of the title. Maybe Douglas MacArthur, when he was alive, could have been an American Caesar.

The first American monarch will be the son or successor of the first American Caesar. Eventually, the sheer amount of corruption and decadence in this country will result in one of three options:

1. Corrupt trading of power at the top until one ambitious soul (as President) asserts emergency powers to make himself a termless Caesar over the Republic to protect it from an existential threat and eliminate his enemies.

2. A nationalist party becomes the sole alternative to degeneracy and communism in the Congress and its leader is elected to the highest office. He uses an emergency to assert executive power and eliminate his enemies as America's "Protector."

3. Degeneracy and Communism wins, with the nation devolving into a bastardized version of Mexico/Brazil.

Washington is dead and there is no House of Washington. The Roosevelts could have done it had basically all of Theodore's Progeny not died in WW1 and WW2. The Kennedys are the closest modern comparison, but they also seem to drop like flies. And they're mostly awful now.

John Wilson
John Wilson

Union of Churches when?

Jace Brooks
Jace Brooks

Bismarck knew the way
Bismarck was right but his third Kaiser was an autistic cripple who fucked Germany in the butt. Also he got fired by said autistic cripple. So much for muh glorious monarchy.

Daniel Powell
Daniel Powell

youtube.com/watch?v=-YtLbqtV1v0

Ethan Cox
Ethan Cox

Hail the Kaiser of Florida!

Hudson Watson
Hudson Watson

The Habsburgs and Romanovs alike fell because neither state could handle the rigours of the First World War.

A monarch is always bound to have ideas, but should NEVER be ideological. He or she has the ultimate objective of serving his or her subjects, and ideology should be used as a tool (through representational methods, semi-constitutionalism ftw) to that end rather than an end in itself.

Camden Lee
Camden Lee

He might have been a bad tsar but

HE WAS A FUCKING HANDSOME MOTHERFUCKER

one thing I need to know thou, whats his height?

Dylan Perry
Dylan Perry

Habsburger
Virtually the only distinctly inbred royal family
Goymany
Lel
Nice strawmaning
Other European royal families were certainly superior in genetics and the kraut Habsburg an outlier

Look at romanovs
their daughters were all 10/10 angels
Alexander the 3 was a strongman beast of man that bend iron with his hands
Nickolas 2 had beautiful eyes no fucking Cictoria secret model has
Peter 2 was over 2,10 CM big , for his time an giant
Etc etc

Samuel Hill
Samuel Hill

Poland

he was your tsar.

Tyler Lewis
Tyler Lewis

The only deserving Tsar is Pyotr IV Wrangel!

That's the problem. The lack of ideals and constantly trying to maintain power in the short-term while sacrificing stability in the longterm is what fucked Austria and Russia. They allowed far too many minorities to have their own identities and share power in their countries.

Kayden Nguyen
Kayden Nguyen

Romanovs
the last crown prince was a sickly haemophiliac
Good genetics I see

Luis Reyes
Luis Reyes

Nah he never was. I live in former galicia.

Jayden Ortiz
Jayden Ortiz

pre-revolution English monarchy is the best

Parliament consulted before *new* taxes.

Guaranteed rights (magna carta)

King is executive still, controls the army and government and tarrifs and foreign affairs and is in charge of dispensing justice.

But still considerable local power through towns, gentry, nobility and the Church such that there is and cannot be a risk of tyranny.

Noah Harris
Noah Harris

nigggers

Ethan Gray
Ethan Gray

IN

Robert Cook
Robert Cook

And why should the Czechs and Ukrainians have supported a monarch that was detrimental to their respective nations? Could America be expected to remain obedient to a French king for instance, intent on 'Frenchifying' his American subjects?

Franz Joseph was an excellent Emperor in all, but put his titles of Emperor of Austria and King of Hungary ahead of other equally valid titles and duties - King of Bohemia, of Croatia, and others. It was a complicated matter, but shunning large and influential masses of his subjects was hardly an intelligent policy.

Nolan Torres
Nolan Torres

Donald Trump, and I would be fine with having Donald Jr. take over next.

Justin Miller
Justin Miller

The common mistakes that critics of monarchism do is to think that the kingdom is passed down in a hereditary fashion. This is not true, rather the monarch has the right to choose his successor, and often it makes the most sense to choose his own son for the throne. If a royal line is inbred, then that's down to a personal fault of the ruler in question (he shouldn't be fucking his cousin). People still have free will at the end of the day, and a monarchy can degenerate simply because the monarch makes bad decisions. That's not a fault with the monarchical system, but rather a fault of the ruler.

Jace Bailey
Jace Bailey

That would be better than what you have now, Hanz.

Aiden Wilson
Aiden Wilson

test

Liam Wright
Liam Wright

what a shame

pic related

Ryan Campbell
Ryan Campbell

actually most people of the countries of the former austro-hunarian empire were very supportive of a monarchy (the hapsburgs), however the new governments were not and so torpedoed that idea, because they were of course (((democratic)))

Jaxson Peterson
Jaxson Peterson

why Kornilov, why not Sternberg?

Leo Young
Leo Young

Making decisions based on empathy generally leads to retarded decisions that do even more damage in the long run. Case in point: pic related. Even if empathy is needed to run a country, it isn't necessarily impossible to program an AI to be empathetic.

Andrew Nelson
Andrew Nelson

anacapmonarchy

Angel Foster
Angel Foster

kornilov did more

Noah Martinez
Noah Martinez

LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOR
LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOR

Gabriel Kelly
Gabriel Kelly

hapsburgs
haps
haPsburgs

why do anglos do this

Anyway, yes, the monarchy was genuinely popular going into WW1 and the story of its collapse was quite complicated. However, the hope of many of Austria-Hungary's peoples was reform to place them on the same level as Austria and Hungary, not being assimilated into one of those two peoples.

(((democratic)))

Ironically, Jews were among the Dual Monarchy's most loyal subjects. If you don't believe me, look it up.

Camden Morgan
Camden Morgan

mfw autocrats

Christian Baker
Christian Baker

Some OC

Nolan Thomas
Nolan Thomas

The Virgin Yang
Ran away and still died to the Terra cultists
vs
The Chad Reinhard
Taunted his attackers to shoot him, inspiring one of them to kill the rest of his group

Matthew Ortiz
Matthew Ortiz

Let's put an incompetent over us cuz muh genes

You have to be an ignorant dumbass to want a monarchy. A royal is just a person who shares some genes with the ruler. They aren't likely to have the ability to rule successfully, since this ability is rare in humans and is not predictable.

The Romans figured out almost two millenia ago that the ruler must be a man of proven merit or your empire will be ruined, and you morons haven't learned a damn thing from history. It's like we have to rediscover Western civilization all over with you people.

David Rodriguez
David Rodriguez

I say Praise the Omnissiah!

Ayden Brown
Ayden Brown

The Russian people lost their souls the day they murdered the Tsar

Nolan Reyes
Nolan Reyes

bump
I support monarchism in Europe while I support republicanism in some countries like America

Easton Adams
Easton Adams

They're not. But these disparate minorities present a far greater long-term stability challenge. You must "Frenchify" them or "Germanify" them if you want your nation to remain integral.

LAVR! LAVR, MY COUNTRYMAN! (even if you were Tatar-blooded)

Because Sternberg was an insane Mongoliboo.

Jaxon Howard
Jaxon Howard

do we need to add another leash to this pic?
Monarchy is shit if the kikes control or in your case are the monarch

Samuel Turner
Samuel Turner

This is why we should bring back the kaiser
youtu.be/I82_ybEAHxM

Gavin Collins
Gavin Collins

Leftist shill
I support a constitutional monarchy where the monarch is hereditary while a prime minister is chosen by the people along with a parliament elected by people.
Both the monarch and the people have a say.

Charles Stewart
Charles Stewart

The Kaiser and the German Empire were the best empire in history (better than Nazi Germany if you ask me).
Too bad WWI happened

Tyler Morgan
Tyler Morgan

Bce пpивeтcтвyют Boждь

Elijah Ramirez
Elijah Ramirez

And yet you guys refused to save them.

Bentley Butler
Bentley Butler

Better than Napoleon?

Kayden Garcia
Kayden Garcia

True but it was after the First World War, also you lost you soul in 76

Angel Lopez
Angel Lopez

You do realize that Britain was about to ally with Germany just so they can keep Russia out of the middle east right?

But after the rape of Belgium they went after Germany instead

Kevin Parker
Kevin Parker

Any other recommended readings aside from the whole 3 titles posted in the pastebin?

Adam Jackson
Adam Jackson

Uh yeah

Benjamin Clark
Benjamin Clark

t.hasnt heard of the famous roman emperors

Ethan Bennett
Ethan Bennett

he was not very tall, under 5'10 i think

Zachary Wright
Zachary Wright

Monarchy has proven to be the only system that is stable in the long term.
All systems will eventually return or evolve in to monarchism.
Monarchism is superior to any other system.

So say it with me! Ave Rex!

Wyatt Wilson
Wyatt Wilson

Ave Rex!

Julian Clark
Julian Clark

And yet Reinhard never once beat Yang while he had the full support of a the Empire, while Yang was screwed over at every chance by the Alliance and still came out on top.

Samuel Johnson
Samuel Johnson

Ave rex although I do think some countries are fine as republics like usa and poland, or Czech Republic
I want france to become a monarchy again along with germany

Christian Johnson
Christian Johnson

Monarchs have been some of the most steadfast anti-kike forces in history. But, due to the French Revolution, the kikes have been allowed to subvert monarchs under the guise of "Democracy".

Justin Scott
Justin Scott

"wanting a monarch who'd inevitably be just another normie degenerate when you could have a dictatorship of a virtuous individual"

A monarch will not flood your country with non-whites, drown his country in debt or sell out his country to globalism because it is not in his imidate interest nor to his heir. That makes him darn good choise.
Ave Rex!

James Bell
James Bell

Fred III was a way better monarch than Willy II

Andrew Brooks
Andrew Brooks

Ave rex

Camden Parker
Camden Parker

The only King we need.

Kaiser/pol/ would be a good second, though. A gestalt consciousness made up of Sup Forums threads. Schizophrenic, but always right...

Jason Campbell
Jason Campbell

Daily reminder that Bolsonaro will be the last president of Brazil, because the Monarchy comes next.
youtube.com/watch?v=Lz7X-pmVK0Q

Eli Martin
Eli Martin

Agreed. A firm monarch with an advisory body of landowners is the best way to go. The landowners can't have too much power, though.

Have you all read Patriarcha? Great book for monarchists.

Kevin Fisher
Kevin Fisher

Unbelievably retarded system

Joseph King
Joseph King

But Napoleon had an absolute monarchy

Gabriel Harris
Gabriel Harris

Read up on Wilhelm II, instead of just further conveying this common natrative about him.

crippled
becomes tryhard for compensating his crippleness

Yeah weve haeard that before, that doesnt make it true. To be quite honest Wilhelm was by far the least craziest person in the administration that made germany's path into WW 1.

Jose Myers
Jose Myers

I miss him so much

Grayson Peterson
Grayson Peterson

Meme flag

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