I just watched Anders Breivik's video about Europe for the first time, and, holy shit, this guy clearly had a point!
Until now, I only knew the mainstream narrative, namely that he was a crazy psychopath. While this is true to a large degree from my point of view, he discusses quite a few valid points. E.g., he describes cultural marxism, and how muslims are used to divide Europe. Essentially, he seems to have understood quite some things in 2011 which have become highly relevant in the past ~3-4 years.
Can somebody redpill me on Breivik? Was he an outright nutcase, or did he view his actions as a means justified by the aims? How is he regarded by right leaning circles in Norway these days?
What he believed doesn`t change what he did, he murdered tens of youths, yes, Norway is a socialist falling degenerate country, fueled by oil reserves that will one day dry up, but what he did cannot be justified, by anyone else than an outright commie or nazi scum
Tyler Murphy
Always highly fucking suspicious when you shareblue cunts post mass murderers to faun over.
Put me in the screencap for the newspaper evil fucks
Isaac Thomas
I've read a dozen or so pages of his manifesto a few years ago. This was after my feminism, female nature, and islam redpilling, but before my race realism/subspecies, Hitler, and JQ redpilling. I couldn't disagree with anything he said, but I could never agree with his tactics.
Noah Bennett
>What he believed doesn`t change what he did, he murdered tens of youths, yes, Norway is a socialist falling degenerate country, fueled by oil reserves that will one day dry up, but what he did cannot be justified, by anyone else than an outright commie or nazi scum
Agree with you, but I'm playing devil's advocate here, I want to understand his reasoning and motives.
I read somewhere that the children he murdered were the sons and daughters of high ranking left politicians. Is that true?
Brayden Murphy
>I couldn't disagree with anything he said, but I could never agree with his tactics.
Very well stated!
Gavin Howard
This. He should have killed politicians or Juden
Elijah Hernandez
He did nothing wrong!
Ayden Gutierrez
Brevik also knew PizzaGate is real
Joseph King
He was killing future politicians. It was some weird socialist training camp the elite send their kids to for political futures.
Breivik did commit the mass shooting at a political youth camp
Hunter Nelson
He saw the multicultikillcult for what it was. He just beat a bunch of muzzies to the punch.
Jackson Anderson
zionist psyops
Jaxon Rivera
>shilling this hard
Landon Russell
>meme flag hiding location
>google drive
yeah... not clicking that.
Jaxon Campbell
Yep He knew!
Jaxon Diaz
I really hope Sup Forums isn't dumb enough to click that link
Isaiah Harris
I may have had a point but killing innocent teenagers is certainly not the way to go about it. Just makes people be more afraid of redpills.
Also his name is Fjotolf Hansen now LUL
Jace Kelly
Yeah and look at the posts: >I just want your opinion! >Well stated!
Please let us have a totally real discussion about how we identify with a psycho mass killer and would you kindly log into gmail before clicking my link thx
Henry Rivera
Wanting to remove degeneracy is fine. Stoning degenerates to death is not.
If you cant tell the difference, you lack empathy. If you lack empathy, you're not different from the niggers in Africa
Gavin Edwards
>nazi scum you're a pathetic subhuman
Benjamin Murphy
I strongly do not support this kid killer. But I have to say he made a statement what's going on in Europe. Moslem invasion supported by leftist and libs
Ian Walker
Sup Forums really is dumb enough to click that link. It probably has a tracker so they can track your internet movements
Jordan Bennett
It's just a .flv you retard
Joseph Flores
Die retard
Noah Peterson
>drive.google >google kys drooler
Robert Hall
Theres a reason governments go to war with each other, because it works
Camden Rogers
Just realised I wrote >I instead of He.
Jason Lopez
Holy shit you're an idealistic brainlet aren't you
Jonathan Moore
>I cant refute your argument so I must kill you. Classic nigger logic
Ian Cooper
No one wants u here Fjotolf. at least Varg spent his time meaningfully in prison, writing books, not posting on anime image boards.
Thomas Rogers
I'm not saying that I'm going to kill you. I'm just saying that it would be preferable if a no-IQ individual such as yourself died.
Bentley Young
It's just a FLV if you really thing google is going to track some autistic NEET faggot so they can (???) him you're more retarded than your mutt blood would suggest
Jayden Scott
>jewgle is the one who would track him stop posting, your drooling newfaggotry is painful
Jose Edwards
He had right ideas but was misguided and ultimately hurt any objective he wished to go after. Maybe in a few decades he will be seen as a true hero who was ahead of his time in what must be done to save civilization from ruin.
Samuel Harris
Who exactly is going to track you through an FLV. Spell it out for me. I came here from ADTRW in 2003 but clearly you are very knowledgable on this subject. Lay it upon me, mutt.
Brody Reed
So, you kill the person with a different idea, did you defeat the idea? No, you defeated the person.
In order to defeat the idea, you need to make an argument against it. If you're so intellectually handicapped that your only retort is violence, you just proved I'm right.
Chase Evans
How about you argue the statement instead? If you're IQ is so high, surely it is easy for you to argue against it?
Jayden Powell
It don't matter if you're right if you're dead though. Hence it works.
Henry Clark
Not everything is an autistic 1000 word essay debate you know. I'm just here to laugh at you.
Kayden Carter
Genocide has worked countless times throughout history
Jack Martinez
>traitors deserve to live despite they actively working to put everyone in the country at risk because they just felt like it
ok (((norway))), europa 2083 is Sup Forums canon
Christopher Davis
Once you click his file with your google account, he can add you as friend, see all your postings and shared content, youtube comments and if hack gets in, location, browser history, devices.......
and also simply be a pain int he ass if really doesn't like you and make you change your google password a few times a day until google locks your account for your own safety.
Zachary Hill
>your google account
Ryan Green
For a single gunman? Yes.
The great thing is that there was almost no collateral damage. All the participants were cultural marxists, on a small island, police would take quite some time to show up. Perfect scenario.
I wish more people would consider such leftist events instead of just going to shoot up a mall or school, but then again, these people are basically looking for suicide by cop instead of actually bringing about political change.
Jeremiah James
So does communism work now? Is Islam a great religion? Did they win cause they murdered?
Is Kim jong un actually god? Or is everyone just to afraid of death to say he's not?
You're just a fake. A fraud to degenerate and stupid to make an argument. You can silence people, but you'll never be right.
Owen Johnson
None of those things are genocides. You don't hear a peep out of people who were genocided. Know why? They're dead.
Genocide works
Isaiah Clark
>I'm just pretending to be retarded Sure thing buddy.
Blake Watson
>So does communism work now? Evidently not because pretty much all of the old communist states are gone. >Is Islam a great religion? Considering that ISIS are still in a middle of a war that they're getting rekt in, I'd hardly say so. >Is Kim jong un actually god? Has the entire world against him and is 1 button away from having his shitty peninsula blown off the map.
You're having a hard time disproving that might makes right now aren't you? The absolute state of n*rwegians.
Jose Scott
>intellectually handicapped have you ever tried to argue or have a intellectual conversation with an intellectually handicapped?
Exactly how's that supposed to work? It is literally why people get punched in the face
Henry Ward
>trying to "prove" you're not a newfag on an anonymous board hello newfag >who exactly is going to track you The owner of the drive can view the account names an IPs of anyone viewing their drive. Were you not here for the google docs shit? This is why I call you newfag.
Michael Gray
>I just watched Anders Breivik's video about Europe for the first time, and, holy shit, this guy clearly had a point!
Guess who is behind this post.
Camden Brown
>i'm trying to argue with someone who can't be bothered to argue and can't, i'll respond with a meme instead This is what passes for n*rwegian "intellectuals" these days?
Matthew Moore
You just proved my point..
Robert Robinson
Those victims had recently held a rally in support of Palestine, so my guess is Brevik had some help, from the same asshats that did 9/11, Israel.
All those shots to the head indicate a team of professionals.
Hunter Rivera
>The owner of the drive can view the account names an IPs of anyone viewing their drive. No they can't. Further, how will he view my "name"? Or are you tacitly admitting to be stupid enough to own a google account? You chanology mutts truly are cancerous.
Jason Ross
It's like shooting up muslim kindergarten while Mohammeds groom and rape your kids en masse.
Camden Ortiz
Your point is that weak entities lose against powerful ones, regardless of ideology? Sounds like we agree then.
Brody Gonzalez
>Hurr durr I cant be bothered >Its not that I dont have an argument >Jawn, anyone feeling sleepy yet?
In your own perfect world, you're already dead. Your autistic screeching exists because we let it.
Liam Diaz
Oh yes, I'm sure you're a very tough and strong individual, mr n*rweigian intellectual.
Landon Nguyen
>no Yes, they can drooler >I wouldn't own an account, but I do know exactly how google accounts work kys shill enabler. OP only wants to dox underaged nazis and you are directly defending him.
Ethan Rivera
My point is that a stronger ideology wins, regardless of force.
Nolan Peterson
...except that all you portrayed was ideologies getting steamrolled by superior force regardless of ideology. You clearly suck at making real-world comparisons.
Wyatt Adams
They cannot view your IP. Unless you're stupid enough to have a google account like a mutt (you), you are not at any risk.
Adam Morales
No I listed weak ideologies. Russia is still a thing you know. Communism never got defeated through force.
Jordan Russell
You're failing to miss that the "superiority" of their ideologies has nothing to do with them being crushed. >Russia is still a thing you know. Well yeah. The soviet union isn't. Unsurprised that a brainlet like you is unable to differentiate though. >Communism never got defeated through force. Because the Cold War never happened and totally wasn't a war of socio-economic attrition as well as proxy wars with soviet puppet states and soviet created states. Historylet detected.
Daniel Brooks
Norwegian prisons so comfy they provide you with Internet access
Blake Reyes
I'm pretty sure norweigian prisons have PS3s. Breivik is playing MGS4 as a punishment (read: reward) for cleansing the world of some communists.
Dylan Howard
He took out the future commie elite.
He did good.
Justin Carter
>How about you argue the statement instead? >If you're IQ is so high, surely it is easy for you to argue against it?
War or armed resistance has traditionally always been used as a last resort, used when dialogue has proven to be ineffective. The justification for use of armed resistance against the European cultural Marxist/multiculturalist systems is tied to the outlook for cultural conservative political success. You have to ask yourself; is it remotely possible under the current conditions that a conservative, monocultural political party will ever gain substantial political influence? An increasing number of Europeans are opening their eyes to the reality that the democratical struggle through dialogue has been lost. The cultural Marxists have institutionalised multiculturalism and have no intention of ever allowing us to exercise any political influence of significance. In theory we, the cultural conservatives of Europe, have become slaves under an oppressive, tyrannical, extreme left-wing system with absolutely no hope of reversing the damage they have caused. At least not democratically..
Carter Phillips
It is meaningless to participate in the democratical process when you are not allowed to raise important issues without being subjected to political and social persecution through stigmatisation and ridicule. It is time to acknowledge that we, the cultural conservatives of Western Europe, are deceiving ourselves to believe that it is remotely possible to change the system democratically. The continuation of the ongoing peaceful dialogue with the culturalMarxists/multiculturalists only serves to further diminish our demographical advantages. They are growing stronger while we are being weakened every year. It is counterproductive, even lethal to waste another five decades on meaningless dialogue while we are continuously losing our demographical advantage. We have never and will never be allowed to ever exercise any influence. The cultural Marxist/multiculturalist elites nationally and in Brussels have for the last five decades created a resilient system whose objective is to ridicule, persecute, harass and silence us. They will continue to systematically marginalise us until the day when we are no longer a threat to them.
Camden Reyes
Yep. Democracy is a scam.
Anthony Torres
If I recall correctly, he commplained because he had a "bad cell" and had a PS2 and not a PS3.
Am I Breivik? You'll never know
Jack Barnes
This is why you should kill any stupud fucking terrorist from any ideology - so they don't get to spew their delusional propaganda about western civilization for people to discuss as 'valid' - any point that he had, however practical or sense-making, was invalidated by his actions of killing 77 people.
Leo Diaz
so why the fuck you telling the normies to do it? fuck off.
James Howard
Forgot to source my copy pasta
>A European Declaration of Independance >By Andrew Berwick, London – 2011 >pages 801-802
Blake Myers
He still gets to play MGS3. Breddy gud you know.
Hunter Ward
I heard Breivik was seriously psychologically abused by his mom as a kid, any source on this?
Austin Fisher
Idk, I do remember that one of our politicians tweeted out after the attack that with all the multicultural polcies and islamification it was no wonder someone went crazy; or something along those lines
>If I recall correctly, he commplained because he had a "bad cell" and had a PS2 and not a PS3. yeah, he does get searched randomly and generally bullied by keepers. but if you have an old console or a hard bed, you can complain. such are the politics of scandinavian prisons
Lincoln Allen
i think she was psychologically unstable
Austin Peterson
Gonna trigger some redpills by saying this. We're on Sup Forums after all. But I think that the norwegian prison system is pretty good. They have a little too much luxary though but the general idea of rehab is good.
Jordan Cox
Sure, everyone redpilled is rightfully mad to some extend. But to go on a teenager killing spree is something way beyond that.
Molymeme's video on Charles Manson really made me think about the consequenes of child abuse..
Isaiah Rodriguez
Breivik did nothing wrong.
Cameron Cruz
Can't give opinion on Brevik and McVeigh - spooks are watching
Isaiah Gray
he's a masonic zionist. kys
Bentley Cox
Alright, so if I murdered your wife or mother, and raped your daughter or sister, you would still welcome me back to society after a few years away in my luxury cage?
Committing a crime should hurt, break you down before you can even think about rehab, and certain crimes should forever strip you of any chance of returning back to normal life.
Eli Morales
wasn't really criticising the luxury to be honest. what I find funny is that it's ok to bully someone but it's not ok to give him bad soap. If you see what I mean.
Ayden Davis
If you’re right and you murder a bunch of kids, you’re still right, but no one cares. Nice going, idiot.
David Adams
I believe that humans are inherently good though and people can change. Psychology is complicated and can make people do horrible shit.
yeah I see
Tyler Bailey
Shut the fuck up.
I watched a video from Varg, who was actually in a Norwegian “luxury hotel” for 21 years and he said the only reason it has so many amenities is to keep you constantly isolated and that eats you alive quicker than anything
Alexander Nguyen
That's what we think but don't say it loud because that'll make problems.
Chase Cooper
The red pill is that you don't kill people. Of course there's an exception: If you have a nuke and launch it to Helsinki.
Ryan Miller
>outright commies would justify what Breivik did u fuckin wot
Adam King
The question isn't whether murderers are 'inherently good' or not. The question is whether they're inherently *stupid as hell.* Stupid cannot be fixed. Breivik is a stupid as hell human. He is too stupid to ever be released because he forever has that inadequate, retard brain that made him 'logic' his way into killing innocent kids.
Nathaniel Evans
Fuck off and fuck the norwegian prison system. Sure rehab is useful for people who are guilty of theft, robbery and drugs. But its fucking retarded to apply that to every crime, especially the extremely violent ones like murder and brutal assaults. They get light sentences, and are out in a very short amount of time, and the victims are left to feel unsafe. These people need to be severely punished before you can even think of rehab. They need to be locked away for a long time, and only towards the end of their sentence should reintegration into society be considered.
I just read a story about a syrian refugee who snapped when a norwegian immigrant woman rejected his advances, and gave her a severe beating and threatened her life. The guy got 6 months in jail and got out in 4 months. The woman had to leave her town and live on a secret address and suffers from PTSD. I read about severely violent crimes in the news, and I am always surprised at how light the sentences are. The Norwegian justice system is an absolute disgrace.
I also read that our return rate actually isn't any better than most other places, except for a few select crimes, and that misinterpretation of statistics is the reason it looks good.
Brayden Murphy
Don't wanna sound like a shill but kids were innocent, even if their parents were dicks.