Why does Sup Forums ignore the fact that Breivik was a Freemason?

Why does Sup Forums ignore the fact that Breivik was a Freemason?

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he was a patsy...the man does not seem quite right in the head. Doubt highly that he was the lone wolf.

Breivik was also pro Israel and hated National socialism.
But polacks are too retarded to understand whats going on.

Because Masons are based and pol right now is Mars larping

where did you read this? it sounds really skeptical

Watch his propaganda video.

youtube.com/watch?v=X81H0aLMzzo

11:03

Freemasons take an oath to not rat on other freemasons.

idiot neck beard faggot. have you even read his manifesto

>Breivik was a Freemason
>Breivik was also pro Israel and hated National socialism

This is what I've heard too. But I don't get why it's any important.

so he was a faggot after all

>John Wilkes Booth was a Freemason
>Lee Harvey Oswald was a Freemason
>Breivik was a Freemason

The guy who shot MLK was probably a Freemason as well.

Masons are all sun worshipping homosexuals much like the rosecruscians.

>John Wilkes Booth was a Freemason
>Lee Harvey Oswald was a Freemason
Source? Could be interesting.

They're actually all (((Jews))). Mystery Babylon brought back via the crusaides and eventually hiding out all the way up in Scotland in the freemasons.

Mason here. Not free though

>t. William Cooper

>where did you read this?
In his own manifesto. It's not like he wanted to keep his zionism a secret. He even got b& from stormfront for it.

I've been meaning to look into him for a while but never have. Problem is with people like me is that it might have taken many years of personal research to get where we are but now we can't be swayed by calling people names.

In other words if you want to get the job done any job you need a Jew because white people are beta cucks.

James Earl Ray wasn't a Freemason.

Sounds like he might of been a crypto kike, or one of those shabbos goys that talks about muh based Jews, and tells everyone nationalism is bad except when Jews do it.

My sister looks like this guy

>many years of personal research to get where we are
Yet you're on the mystery babylon nonsense spouted by those charletand. Can't have been too stringent.

What have Freemasons done?

oh mein gott

It's an effective trigger word. Ever read Pavlov?

MILKIES

Trigger for what?

For people to flip out about Bill Cooper or whoever else, thereby drawing increased attention to the subject at large and fostering more interesting and detailed debate from there.

Counterintelligence, my man.

Breivik was planted by Mossad as a punishment for Norways non-friendly view on Israel.

This picture was taken 1 day before the massacre. Really makes you think why they actually were targeted

yeah no, not really.

OY VEY!

Future Norwegian politicians are really anti semitic! SHUT IT DOWN

Fair enough. But it seems odd to dogwhistle a subject just to show that subject is silly.

thelocal.no/20150903/utya-attacks-gods-payment-for-opposing-israel

israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/13709

tnp.no/norway/panorama/2644-utoya-massacre-might-be-a-warning-from-god-about-israel

That's the point though is that it's not silly. A closer investigation of freemasonry will reveal its role in the larger world of occultism.

You might even find out that freemasonry in the US is different in expression than in Europe, even if they share roots.

of course not, he's american.
american posters just spout detailed opinions on topics they objectively have never even explored REGULARLY on this board.

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>That's the point though is that it's not silly.
Then i suggest you do more research.

>A closer investigation of freemasonry will reveal its role in the larger world of occultism.
Of course it has been an inspiration for much.
>You might even find out that freemasonry in the US is different in expression than in Europe
Well duh. If you'd started with Dummies Guide to Freemasonry, you'd know a lot more.

See here's the thing though. You can either call me dumb and ignorant or you can present a counter-narrative if you do not agree.

Masons will usually just deny everything as silly nonsense. There's lots of entertaining footage of this, typical of old, ingrained occult systems that rely on information arbitrage as a method of psychological warfare.

>You can either call me dumb and ignorant or you can present a counter-narrative if you do not agree.
Can't really counter though, as that would require proving a negative. Best i can say is that the origin of the Craft is nothing like you assert. It grew out of medieval guilds in Britain thanks to their holy day plays. Then the Tudor period put stonemasonry in such a decline, they started accepting non-operatives as members in the guild to share knowledge of the trade.

>the Craft
See? You didn't need to confirm your position by using that terminology.

I'm not attacking you personally or saying that freemasonry is inherently bad.

>You didn't need to confirm your position by using that terminology.
You mean the correct terminology?

I mean the terminology that gives you away as a defender of your Craft rather than an objective commentator. Seriously, you could have just started outright discussing what's really going on in secret instead of shooting the messenger, but it's like pulling teeth just to get standardized cover stories out of you.

It's no big deal. It's no secret. Tons of people are masons.

>I mean the terminology that gives you away as a defender of your Craft rather than an objective commentator
No reason one can't be both.
>Seriously, you could have just started outright discussing what's really going on in secret instead of shooting the messenger
At no point did the latter, but happy to do the former. Just that the "messenger" is carrying a very false message based on incredibly dodgy history.

I’m pretty sure Breivik was working for the Mossad, maybe he was not even aware of it, a French-Jew has said that the Mossad recruits “helpers” in Masonic lodges in Europe.

Also the Israeli hated the Oslo accords, this was their vengeance on the Norwegians.

You can't be objective about it if you're adherent to oaths of secrecy. Let's be realistic.

This

have you fucked her?

I only promised to not disclose the salutes and pass grips of each degree. We're encouraged to discuss everything else, especially the history. It's a bit sad in that regard, since it promotes naval gazing.

You must be pretty low level still. You're also not supposed to rat on each other except in cases of murder. And then later on even murder is an in-club matter.

That gets to be a problem when you have so many masons as judges and prosecutors. As with a dual-citizen serving in the government, which master is being served? You can only serve one master.

>You must be pretty low level still.
Lol.
>You're also not supposed to rat on each other except in cases of murder.
Nope. Apart from not being directly about Freemasonry itself, the exact wording is about defending a brother's LAWFUL secrets. Anything illegal or immoral require you to grass.
>As with a dual-citizen serving in the government, which master is being served? You can only serve one master.
Agreed. Which is why the obligations and charges exhort you to always put Masonry last on your list of priorities. Duties to God come first, then family, then yourself and society, and at the bottom the Craft fits in where there's space left on the 24in gauge.

Breivik was many things. Sane was not one of them.

>LAWFUL
Etymology and the nature of law is an interesting topic, if one beyond the scope of this discussion.

But it's like Mormonism (which I construe as an extent of freemasonry). That extra space on the 24in gauge holds a lot of people who rightly put God first and will be very forthright with you within the particular rules they have to play by. Head toward the top and you'll start to remember it's still an esoteric cult at the end of the day, and brings with it the things that esoteric cults do as well.

But what I would recommend is what I thought I'd recommended earlier: rather than being concerned with you personally or your cult being under attack, concern yourself with educating people on the true history or whatever you understand it to be.

>Etymology and the nature of law is an interesting topic
It's somewhat up to the individual, with the examples of murder and treason being there to point out shit which is unacceptable. It goes on later to say all the laws of a state in which you may reside for a time.
>Head toward the top
Yea? What top might that be?
>concern yourself with educating people on the true history
Tried that earlier. You glossed straight over it and made to defend your defensiveness.

No

Spot on. It doesn't require which "God" but only that it be some "God" meaning that you could have two people with incompatible "Gods" both thinking they're playing by the same law when really the only same law they're playing by is that they've agreed to a system that fundamentally supercedes that law by declaring that both laws are kosher.

It's not hard. If you'd like to give a dissertation on ancient history go ahead. Or tell people how to build something that doesn't fall down if that's what you're talking about. Maybe you'd like to tell us what the order of the rosy cross is all about, or provide a QRD on the crusaides. Don't let me curb your style.

>meaning that you could have two people with incompatible "Gods" both thinking they're playing by the same law when really the only same law they're playing by is that they've agreed to a system that fundamentally supercedes that law by declaring that both laws are kosher.
Yes and no. For the Craft degrees, particular faith is irrelevant, which is how it's universal. The only overarching demand is that you be dutiful to your own beliefs and your people. So while i might otherwise want to crusade against a Muslim brother, while we're in lodge, we can get along, and should both be loyal to the country in which we reside.
>If you'd like to give a dissertation on ancient history go ahead.
Eh. The tl;dr is enough. Read Neville Barker-Cryer or Tobias Churton if you want the full story, with historical documents and citations for particular dates.
>Maybe you'd like to tell us what the order of the rosy cross is all about
It's actually different to the Rosicrucians. Basically just an emulation of Christian chivalric orders but within Masonry. In particular, the degree story surrounds the Crucifixion, and coming to the Christian faith (as heralded in the 17th degree of that side-order).

>Why does Sup Forums ignore the fact that Breivik was a Freemason?
for the same reason it doesn't ignore the sandy hook elementary being next door to a masonic temple, and that Trayvon's dad was a mason and that Trump is a mason and shit like that

How is this out of step with Sup Forums board consensus? I don't see much anger here when Netanyahu attacks liberal Jews and Soros. I see barely a peep about Trump's Jerusalem decision etc.

thx for sharing your sister. Moar ?

>Trayvon's dad was a mason
He wasn't, actually. He's a fake negro "mason" from the "Renford P Brown Grand Lodge", instead of an actual Masonic lodge.
>and that Trump is a mason
Might be, but no evidence of it thus far.

Yeah Trump only literally builds things and flashes hand signs.

Don't know how far it goes, but it's entertaining to watch the stories fly around considering how connected the guy is in general.

>Yeah Trump only literally builds things and flashes hand signs.
Neither of those things indicate membership. And incorrect use of "literally" there, since he very much does not.
"Hand signs" are also a terrible way to try and gauge any persons affiliations, which is why membership patents are a thing now (and for about 300 years, in fact).

That's literally a correct use of literally. It's one of our gang signs.

You have to think a little bit more outside of the box than being even more of a lawyer about definitions so as to make sure the forest is always missed for the trees. Sure the details need to be just right for the actual physical craft of masonry, but somebody else is designing what's being built.

>That's literally a correct use of literally.
It would only be correct if he was out there actually building things as a labourer. Your gang should adopt a dictionary.
>Sure the details need to be just right for the actual physical craft of masonry
Or for anything to be verifiable, really. Otherwise it's just nonsense.

Signs are language, and all language is metaphor. Being a prescriptivist about it is a losing battle, even if maintaining documentation of meaning is objectively one of the key advantages that humans, as creatures blessed with an inherent capacity for abstract thinking, have.

>Signs are language
Language requires grammar. Otherwise it's useless. That's why someone inadvertently "throwing signs" means jack.
> Being a prescriptivist about it is a losing battle
Nah.

It's not inadvertent at all. Watching what gets thrown when is the grammar of it.

Most of fanatic christians are openly zionist. They are still useful for white nationalism.

>It's not inadvertent at all.
According to you. A psychologist might disagree.
And i'm not saying that "throwing signs" isn't a possible thing. Just that it's something which has almost never been proven to occur for a valid reason. Not to mention the question of why it would be needed ever.

Would fug.

>why it would be needed ever
I dunno lol. Why are you not supposed to talk about the secret handshakes?

What does the sword through the skull represent on his left arm?

BOPE, the highly militarized special ops police force in Rio De Janiero in Brazil, has the same exact logo (pic related).

To prove i'm an honourable man who can keep my word. The grips used to be a patent for an unlettered society. But now everyone can read and there are much more effective ways of proving identity and qualifications (such as patents and the like).

Exactly. And using that word (the grip) in the right context is the grammar. Just like when I say it's literally a language, other people who know that grip can judge me based on when and where I apply that wording and secret mutual understanding.

It's not hard m8. Esoteric cults aren't rocket science. Maybe when you get to the point of claiming that space ships come out of Ezekiel, but nobody's going to claim your average book-follower is hiding the secrets space travel.

>And using that word (the grip) in the right context is the grammar. Just like when I say it's literally a language, other people who know that grip can judge me based on when and where I apply that wording and secret mutual understanding.
Indeed. And that's great for the middle ages. But we come back to the "why?" for now. Basically, people just hear hoofbeats and think unicorns.

One of my early mentors told me something really good. He said to me he said:
>The ones you want to pay attention to
>They're not trading on inside information
>They're making the inside information

the handshakes are just as part of it
A grandmaster in the lodge I know (jewish)
Told me about other signs they use to identify themselves...these signs are agreed beforehand
like putting a penny on the dashboard of your car so that mason cops let you off with speeding etc..
you get the drift, thing is its against the code for a brother to take a side against another brother and even worse to do that in a public court etc..

You may say its nothing, you may say its not going on but a lifetime of experience around them tells me different...
The oldest temple in the world is in Jerusalem.. the hierachy is comprised of semites
its a back door through our laws and its a back door for subversive activities against the common people...

And heres the rub the EU is in the process of leftward leaning politics? why inclusion? why open borders? why is Netanyahu making a big show of visiting Hungary and paying attention to the the pact? Why are they against immigration? Why are jews fleeing Europe
Why the secret war? why is no-one saying whats going on?
and yet its so obvious if you actually took the time to think about whats gone on
If anything these society need to be investigated and members made public especially the high ranking court officials and politicians...
Because if the truth were known you would be high value targets..

The basic premise for them is god doesn't exist therefor its good to do as you will for the betterment of the sect, because thats what it is...

you look after your own and deny anyone else the chance to do that.....Your going to get BTFO its already happening folks , these people have no honour except unto themselves

Yup. The purpose of picking a god is just to make the oath that you take to the cult matter beyond the length of your life.

In other words, that you would rather die than betray your oath. (which is pretty standard for oaths, really)

It's not hard to become a mason. Most lodges are keen to get new members in.

Go to Utah and look how #Browned it is these days. They need the membership as well.

He considered himself a Templar Knight mason fighting cultural Marxism and Islam.He was anti multiculturalism and had very conservative views, overall close to National Socialism...Read his manifesto!

My lodge is pretty 'young' 25% are retired, 50% in their 40s. Then the rest in their late 20s and 30s

One is half indian, but that's it.