National gay rights advocates are watching how a child support fight between a divorced lesbian couple plays out in Hawaii, likely the first such case before a state Supreme Court, experts say.
A woman wants to sever her parental rights to a child her ex-wife gave birth to and is appealing a family court ruling denying that request to the Hawaii Supreme Court, which is set to hear arguments Thursday.
The couple, who are not identified in the confidential family court case, married in Washington, D.C., in 2013 and moved to Hawaii because of military orders for the woman seeking to end her parental rights.
Throughout the marriage, the couple talked about the possibility of having a child together, the court said. While the woman was deployed between January and September 2015, her wife got pregnant through a sperm donor. The woman filed for divorce in October 2015, and the child was born while it was pending.
The family court denied her petition because it found that Hawaii's Uniform Parentage Act and Marriage Equality Act presumes that a legal spouse of a woman who gives birth to a baby is the parent of that child, regardless of the spouse's gender.
Most same-sex parental rights cases involve a spouse who didn't give birth to a child and wants custody, Sakimura said.
“It doesn't happen that often in the same-sex parenting world, but there are few cases where they are trying to avoid child support,” she said.
“This is unusual in that biology is being used as a shield to evade parental obligation,” Lambda Legal attorney Peter Renn said. “Equal rights come with equal responsibility.”
Lesbians should be just as scared of marriage as straight men
Matthew Jenkins
Literally couldn't stand being in the same country as her wife for more than a month. Fucking kek.
Jason Baker
bump
Matthew Perez
>While the woman was deployed between January and September 2015, her wife got pregnant through a sperm donor. The woman filed for divorce in October 2015, and the child was born while it was pending. If the mother went behind the other woman's back, she shouldn't have to pay child support. In the same way a woman who cheated on her husband while he was deployed shouldn't get a penny from him when he returns and dumps her cheating ass.
Angel Collins
>shouldn't yeah there are a lot of things that shouldn't happen in the world, unfortunately they still do and your genitals shouldn't give you a pass or a condemnation >equal application of the law
Grayson Powell
Consent is important. If two people consent to raise a child together, then that ought to be legally binding.
Xavier Johnson
> what is marriage
Adam Rogers
>Mfw it's going to take lgbtbbq members getting fucked by divorce laws to get them changed.
The left truly is eating itself
Ryan Taylor
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Alexander Cooper
The obvious solution is to have the government provide for all children 100% so LGBTQ2SQQ+ people can pursue their passions.
Just because you have a child doesn't mean you should be forced to pay for it.
Elijah Nelson
"Confronted with the futility of her own sick mental illness and their bastardization of the institution of marriage for the sake of vanity, the bulldyke runs"
Landon Barnes
>While the woman was deployed between January and September 2015, her wife got pregnant through a sperm donor. The woman filed for divorce in October 2015,
Sounds like she cheated while her spouse was deployed. I wonder how many other military wives are going to start using the "sperm donor" excuse?
Tyler Ward
bump
Kevin Foster
its obvious what happened her, army chick wanted out, crazy stay at home wife decided to ball and chain her.
no balls to chain bitch. GOT OUT.
Jeremiah Foster
>WE WANT TO MARRY >CHILD SUPPORT FOR A KID THAT AINT MINE? SHIIIIEIEEEEET NEVER FUCKIN MIND
Camden Kelly
>sperm donor
She wanted another go on the cock carousel
Gavin Green
Something like this is happening with one of my children's classmates. A lesbian couple have this child and one of them is clearly not going to be sticking it out. She is the ultra Dyke, tattoos, Mr. Strong lady, undeniably gross. She decided she wants out, now just see the one mom. It's pretty sad, but I am happy for them that the Chad like dyke bailed, will better for them in the long run. She wants to be a man, but doesn't want to man up. I never post in any of the "Do you have Kids threads?" But, I will say, do it if you have the chance.
Jacob Foster
>Even with two moms niggers can't have two parents
Hudson Young
Fuck that she wasn't even there when the woman got pregnant. If she had raised the kid and her name was on the birth certificate(which would stll be getting cucked but she obviously would have agreed to that) then this would be different. But as it stands that's just retarded
Sebastian Wright
bump
Jack Walker
I feel sorry for the kid in a weird way. But it's true, the more cases we see of this the better public perception will change that women don't want the fatherly role they prefer to role play until shit becomes reality then they bail. They want the cake and eat it to, as a fantasy.
Nicholas Perry
And straight people never are like this?
Lincoln Baker
Hopefully they dont fuck over the sperm donor.
The state will find anyone to pay for the kid so they wont have to.
>The family court denied her petition because it found that Hawaii's Uniform Parentage Act and Marriage Equality Act presumes that a legal spouse of a woman who gives birth to a baby is the parent of that child, regardless of the spouse's gender.
Get cucked. Be forced to pay for it.
Christian Edwards
Typical nigger gay mom walking out on her "babies".
Jaxson Perry
aloha means hello AND goodbye
Landon Ward
oddly satisfying watching a lesbian have to deal with what men do and realizing it's a fucking shit show
Michael Turner
Told you. Gay marriage was worth it for gay divorce. Twice the mess twice the entertainment.
>This is unusual in that biology is being used as a shield to evade parental obligation how is that unusual, men who were cucked also didn't want to pay child support
Bentley Myers
>gay marriage was worth it for gay divorce WTF I love gays now
Robert Rivera
Gay means happy. Happy because we like entertainment.
Luke Miller
> While the woman was deployed between January and September 2015, her wife got pregnant through a sperm donor. The woman filed for divorce in October 2015, and the child was born while it was pending.
>"sperm donor"
Lesbian wife cheated on her deployed lesbian military spouse.
Even lesbians are not safe from vicious cunts.
Dylan Howard
They'll let her out of it, and then when a straight man tries to use that as precedent, they'll say it doesn't apply, because reasons. We're way past the point where courts have to be consistent.
Jason Lopez
Lesbian women have the highest divorce rate in the Netherlands, the country that first allowed gy marriage. See
Gay men have the lowest.
Benjamin Taylor
>we're way past the point where courts have to be consistent yep, we transitioned from a nation of laws to a nation of men sometime in the 2000s. Naughty Aughties.
Ryan Ortiz
wtf I love fags now
Zachary Johnson
this is obvious to anyone redpilled on the Woman Question, as men are more interested in things like loyalty and teamwork while women are more interested in things like trading up and being gossipy backstabing cunts
Justin Rogers
Can't disagree user. I just want a husband and kids.
Gabriel Torres
About time some women get dicked by the jewdicial system. You faggots wanted marriage equality, now you got it.
Wyatt Young
Could you be so kind to give a link ?
Jason Gonzalez
the donors name was jody
Lincoln Taylor
Scroll up.
Ayden Cruz
They won't get dicked, that's the point. Laws don't get applied equally to men and women. Ask any man who's been through divorce or a custody case. They'll simply change the rules ad hoc for the sake of the women. They'll probably try to stick the sperm donor with child support if they can, so both women are happy.
Ryder Adams
It would be a little more interesting if this was a male pair. Then they'd be eager to punish the "deadbeat dad" who wanted out, but would have a hard time doing it because gay.
Robert Miller
anyone else find it funny that its a black lesbian giving up on her fatherly duties?
Justin Morgan
I see. Don't lesbians also have the highest rate of domestic abuse ? How are lesbians viewed in the LGBT community (not officially, inofficially) ?
Jonathan Fisher
Faggots shouldn’t be married in the first place so it’s too late to worry about shoulds.
Mason Reyes
Underratted
Adrian Wright
If only that is how it worked
Elijah Cook
I'm not sure about the domestic abuse because the studies on that have had really small numbers. If they are mostly picking poor Black women or something that's gonna spike the numbers.
But it's ok for you to shove your religious beliefs on us?
Asher Young
But as she is a woman her stress is more important, shitlord.
Juan Foster
>Sample size is always a problem, but I would think even social scientists are smart enough to work out a methodology to make sure that they not only sample people from one demographic.
Brody Stewart
I bet most lesbian marriages end in divorce. Imagine the fucking cattiness. The fucking passive aggressiveness. He'll on Earth. I hope these two neck themselves.
Julian Fisher
I mean we have some surveys that get up to hundred or thousands now but that older data on domestic violence people use to claim lesbians are morally delinquent generally has n
Gavin White
I mean this was kinda expected.
Besides, lets be honest - most people in divorce proceedings want to get rid of the kid and not have to pay for it until it turns 18.
Dylan Carter
Well yeah but it is still interesting.
Ethan Watson
fags on the next important civil rights issue the right to abandon their children
