When the crusaders entered Jerusalem, they filled the streets with blood

>When the crusaders entered Jerusalem, they filled the streets with blood.
>When Salahuddin entered Jerusalem, they washed the streets with rose water.

what did muslims mean by that?

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Just getting the jew stench out of there dude. Good thinking.

We need a Islamic-Christian alliance against the Jews. Jerusalem for Muslims & Christians only. Hazrat Eesah (Jesus) is a prophet in Islam.

believe it or not but salahuddin was a arab supermistist he was a bit of a brute hence why he died in the last cursade funny because muslims never record a death of their so called heros was a satanist towards the end of his life. :^)

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You're talking our of your ass, kiwi. You don't know about Salahuddin.

They censor videos posted here unless you plan on doing that stop spamming them

Poo in loo

Saladin was respected by Christian crusaders and Muslims a like. He didn't go massacring civilians like the Christians did and was merciful to his enemies.

This was a different time though. During this era the Muslim world was wealthier and more educated than the Christian world. Also more open minded, discussing things that would get people executed for heresy in Europe. This largely ended with the Mongols sacking the major cities of the middle east.

Rose water is probably some fucking discharge you get when tearing some maidenhead, I wouldn't know

You'd have to be mentally ill to believe even half of these. Go get check out my dude I'm not even kidding

Ares create Israel.

>Islam not satanist
>killing anyone not them

nice joke.

>gay meme flag
What did you mean by this

Give back Constantinople and tear down the minarets and restore Hagia Sophia to what it was before you shitskins ruined a beautiful cathedral. Might start talking then.

Give back Cordoba.

Neither of us are going to do it so why not chill and stop beefing?

>he says as he tears down Buddhist statues
Fuck you mudslime. All of you sandniggers will be dealt with. But please, be our useful idiots.

nice taqiyya

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>Give back Cordoba.
Oh you mean some more land that was reclaimed from you?

>islamic slavery going on for 1500 years
>it hasn't stopped
>shills want to propagandize you that the crusades were wrong

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Educate yourselves.

I was going to make a thread to ask this question but I might as well post here. Anyone got info on the templars? We're they heretics? Or have they been misrepresrnted. Also what was the deal with them supposedly worshipping baphomet and in the end being burned at the stake.

>what did muslims mean by that?

Propanganda. Salahuddin needed to end the siege with a victory and couldn't sustain the losses needed to capture it. The treaty for departure was an embarrassing compromise, because rallying the Arabs to war always meant showing that you were strong (any defeat weakened his position), so the story played out as 'supreme mercy' rather than 'tactical compromise'. Some huff about how the city was sacred was a gimme - it was captured because it was on a key trade route and was necessary for force projection further to the south. It being a Christian city meant you couldn't shelter there when moving an army down from Damascus.

Of course they took slaves of anyone who could not be paid for by ransom, that being pretty much all non-nobility, and they massacred most of them outside the gates for lack of provisions and a bit of sport for the men (plenty of ficki ficki went on during the looting of the city), but nothing out of the ordinary for a raid during that time.

tl;dr Arabs talk a load of shit to save face.

All fake brought against them by the French king (who was jealous of their wealth) and the weak pope (the French king bought the papacy for).

catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/the-sad-history-of-the-knights-templar

>Or have they been misrepresrnted

They got very wealthy from their adventures and became a bit too influential for some peoples' liking. The heresy stuff was mostly an afterthought, King Phillip IV wanted the cash and also was pretty peeved with them for financing wars, they were sort of like the Blackwater of the 13th century.

The Catholic Church actually released the papal inquiry a few years back - you can probably find extracts online if you hunt around.

I would be completely down for this. The only question is whether to call this joint effort a Cruhad or a Jisade.

the crusades WERE wrong. All they did was pillaging and killing. Nothing constructive or a live long plan.

Also it was the downfall of MANY great peaceful civs. Crusades were the biggest uneeded stupidity that ever happened

A crusade against the Jews has to include the Muslims, since Islam is Talmudic Judaism.

seems legit

Eat shit that has and always has belonged to Spaniards. Even when they were Muslims they were still Spaniards.

no it isnt

when you realize the first crusade should have been to retake span

op is always fagüt youtu.be/kA16PNZ8-2g

Not really heretics. That's mostly bullshit the church came up with to justify ending them.
They were very powerful at their height, but in the end, they were a military organization. When the middle east stopped being a meat grinder due to the muslims getting more organized, they basically reached a stalemate.
After that, the templars started losing influence.
They were still important, since they were part of the daily lives of christians in the area for a few centuries.
They started wanting to be a sovereign state of sorts, but the pope wasn't having that shit.
He used his influence with nobility and the judgement of a Templar as being a heretic to basically frame the entire order.
Then, he issued an order to every christian in Europe to arrest Templars and unleashed the Inquisition on their asses.
They were tortured and, as per usual, confessed to crimes so vile Satan himself would hate them.
The Pope decided he had the final say, and once the Inquisition wasn't fucking them over, most Templars denied the crimes they had confessed. The pope tried to get a neutral dude to weight in on the matter, but the king of france was buttblasted over them, so he started burning them at the stake because of the "confessions" the Inquisition had gotten.
One of the leaders of the order died with his face turned to Notre Dame and his hands clasped in prayer while they burned him. Does that sound like a heretic to you? After their leaders were dead and the Templars themselves arrested, the order was done for. Most of them were declared innocent, but the order was done for. They were "absorbed" into other orders AFAIK.
Pope Clement himself absolved them of all the "heresies" the Inquisition had them confess to if I'm not wrong.

>the king of france was buttblasted over them, so he started burning them at the stake because of the "confessions" the Inquisition had gotten.

I still think that this was 99% him not wanting to pay them back for footing the bill for flanders. He had a track record of arresting people who he owed money to.

There's the Capetian claim stuff in there too, but I don't really know how much of a motivation that was.

This.
Eat some dicks, it was ours first.

I can't tell if you're trolling or really this bad at history.

I guess you haven't bothered to study the history of Palestine, Arabia, and the Persian Empire between 400BC and 700AD.

As per usual, the french ruin everything for everyone. I think it was because they had just grown too powerful for his tastes. I'd understand fucking over some of the important Templars for the money thing, but I doubt he'd topple an organization as big and well known as that for something so petty.
If it was just that, I doubt the Pope himself would try and fuck them over like he did when Philip told him to.

The power was a major reason. Templar chapter houses worked a lot like modern banks. Letters of credit written at one we're honored at another. Templars were getting rich off more than just crusade plunder.
>Tfw in an alternate timeline Christian knights run the world's banks

>rose water

ha, Gaaaaayyy!

>If it was just that, I doubt the Pope himself would try and fuck them over like he did when Philip told him to.

The legend goes that Clement V was Philip IV's puppet, but apparently the papal inquiry challenges that a bit (I haven't actually read any of it).

A lot of high intrigue, and a fair bit of 'you're not the pope, I'm the pope!' at work (the whole Capetian claim thing). Seemed to me like Clement jumped on the bandwagon so as for it not to look like Philip was running the show, sort of like a boss that feels undermined by some initiative taken by a subordinate racing off to tell everyone that he knew all about it from the start.

man he was a kurdish from Tikrit stop being ignorant , eventhough i considir salah a mass murderer who killed fatimid in egypt but he didn't kill christians and jews in jerusalem

You missed my point retards, I was pointing out you don't want to make territorial concessions so why ask for territorial concessions in turn?

Anyway fuck off, talking to you morons is ridiculous. No wonder Muslims have allied with the left if you faggots are going to act in this way. I'd rather be a Communist if Islam disappeared than an alt-right cuck.

tikrit is an arab city you dumb fuck
saddam is from tikrit
salahuddin spoke arabic as first language and his kurd heratige from before moving to tikrit is contested

it means that muslims are willing to lie to make themselves look good in the past, but europeans don't understand why people give a shit about what happened 1000 years ago

>a buttmad iraqi enters the thread

not buttmad
very calm and collected
somewhat sexually aroused even

everyone trying to rewrite history to match their agenda , but in our present time arab christians are siding with muslim in their struggle against zionism while you so called western christians betrayed your brothers , shameful

Saladin destroyed the cross on the top of the Dome of the Rock, destroyed every Christian Church with the exception of the Sepulchure, and took half of Jerusalem's population as slaves

SALADIN WUZ A GOOD BOI HE DINDU NUFFIN TO THE KUFFARS

They had a near monopoly on finance when they were arrested as well - Philip IV expelled the jews in 1306. The loans for flanders weren't interest-bearing, but worked like a promissory note does now: you paid a premium for the loan and when the note matured it was fully redeemable (including the premium).

War lending was super risky as well - bearing in mind he had lost spectacularly in flanders before. The second expedition that was successful was probably subject to an immense premium on the loan.

>Give back Constantinople
>christcucks destroyed it themselves
embarrassing

You fuckers are killing Christians in the ME

Nope. Go to hell mudslime

das joos

yes but salah was of kurdish origin , speaking a language does not change your origin ,

Concession? Constantinople was a christian capital that muslims sieged and took over.
Why should christianity give you thieving rats anything? All you ever did was steal and ruin things others have built, claiming ancient knowledge as being your own.
Go on then, coward. Join the communists, the faggots and the lesbians.
Let's see how that works out for you.

>t. Abdul

You and jews are both semitic people, just go home and fight your eternal war in that big box of sand and stop bothering people around you. Hate jews and you might as well hate yourself because you are from the same pig sperm.

>Constantinople was a christian capital that christcuck destroyed for their jewish masters.
>b-but muslims stole it
you cucks clearly didnt care about it

And so? Cordoba was a Muslim capital that Christians sieged and took over. 99% of Muslims, even hardcore conservative Muslims don't give a shit about that but you guys insist on dragging Constantinople back up. My only point was that let bygones be bygones and don't be unreasonable.

Anyway fuck you guys, most Muslims would have no problem with Christianity and see you as People of the Book but you insist on picking fights with us and treating us like shit. It used to make me sad seeing the West get pozzed and degenerated by leftists but now I'm happy, I hope you all go extinct.

only real men will resist zionism , prove me wrong.

we've made tons of territorial concessions to you already, you took the absolute pride and breadbasket of Christendom (Egypt, Carthage, the Holy Land) and turned it into a putrid desert filled with inbred retards. Constantinople was the greatest city and cathedral in Christendom, imagine if we took over Mecca and replaced that stupid black rock with an altar to Christ. Cordoba is rightful Christian clay, as is the entire Mediterranean basin.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Constantinople_(717–718)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Constantinople_(1422)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Constantinople

>you cucks clearly didnt care about it
The First Crusade was launched because the Eastern Romans asked for help.

and tunisians are of nigger origins
yet you're forced on the arab league?
nature.com/articles/jhg2010120

- Sub-Saharan African gene flow in Tunisians was tested through LEADMIX simulations under different parental groups
- The presence of a sub-Saharan component in the gene pool of the Tunisians was first shown by the GM and immunoglobulin C? gene polymorphisms
- The presence of noticeable sub-Saharan African traces in present-day Tunisians is in agreement with mtDNA data23 reporting a higher number of sub-Saharan L lineages in Tunisia (48%) as compared with Morocco (25%)
nature.com/articles/jhg2010120

Read it again, I'm not even asking for any territorial concessions, I'm just saying don't demand concessions from us if you don't want to make anything in turn.

Preferably I would want territory to remain fixed as it is. But all you guys insist is on shitflinging and insulting us, so I don't even know why I am still bothering to talk to you.

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and the 4th crusade was launched because your kike masters wanted to destroy competition (constantinople). why are you larping crusaderfaggots pretending you care about it all of a sudden?

implying your country is christian XD

...

You fuckshits are more dumb than anything, especially the Christcucks and Mudslimes.

The real kebab remover in history was Hulagu Khan who killed more than 2.5 million mudslimes in Baghdad caliphate.
Meanwhile you shitheads christcucks keep doing your DOOS VULT.

youtu.be/XJqk8-GWBkU

They are literally going extinct, their race replaced and their religion is dying out but the only thing they care about is killing Muslims and bombing the Middle East when we don't even want to interact with them. Fuck them, these guys are the European/Christian equivalent of ISIS, unreasonable uncompromising assholes.

all I want is Constantinople and the Holiest Church in Christendom, it is actually on Greek soil going back like 3000 years. The Ionic coast is Greek as well. You guys can keep everything else over the Hellespont.

it's funny because vid op is a poo in loo
and the mongols he's praising converted to islam and took a shit on poo in loo existence for 700 years

if you didn't want to interact with us then why is there millions of muslims literally begging to immigrate here. if you stayed in your own nations I wouldn't mind you, it's the fact that you think you deserve a life here that makes us hate you. if you just stayed put literally no one would give a fuck about muslims.

forced ? who forced us ? it's really satisfying to see al hashd shaabi destroying saddam's shithole of a grave lol i don't care about race i only care about destroying zionism and arab supremacist like you are so pathetic lol go lick some saudi shoes

And I'm not defending that, the ideal future is one where Christians and Muslims live separately in their own countries but trade and help each other to prosper. But all you guys talk about is conquering us and slaughtering us, and you cheer whenever Muslims get killed. So it doesn't seem you share our sentiments.

>accuse the other of that which you are guilty

idiot, 4th crusade only happened because the Venetians were excommunicated by Innocent III and figured fuck it we may as well plunder. thinking the Church intended for Constantinople to be sacked is laughable, Innocent was absolutely devastated by the turn of events.

>don't demand we give your land back if you don't want to offer some of your land in turn
This is why people don't like Muslims.

Muslims are doing the same so who cares about your opinion

>his people are dying out, his religion is disappearing, what does he do?
>this faggot comes on and starts bitching and moaning about some territory changing hands 500 years ago

And this is why people don't like the far-right.

Dude look what your people are doing to Europe, and you just expect us to like you? Your every bit a problem as the Kikes so go fuck your camel

We need an alliance to wipe out ISIS.

Jews are second priority.

The middle eastern peoples were the original master race

African admixture dropped their average IQ down to the mid 90s.

mate, i don't want to conquer anything in the middle east besides Constantinople, which is in Europe not the Middle East. the only reason I cheer when Muslims are killed is because you started killing our civilians in terrorist attacks. i would love for muslims to stay in their own countries, not try to kill us, and go back to trading like we did in the middle ages. you seem to think i hate muslims but I only hate your current incarnation. ibn Rushd and al-Kindi are some of the greatest philosophical scholars of all time and preached the absolute opposite of Jihad. Islam wasn't always cancerous, it just has been for the last 500 years.

Cordoba was a Spanish city that you subhumands captured and held.
It was NEVER a muslim capital.
You claim that muslims have no problem with christians, and yet all around the world you assholes persecute and murder christians for no reason at all.
You jackasses pretend to be all muh family values and anti-degeneracy, but let me remind you that Islam is the world's leading ideology in boy rape, slavery and murder.
Bar none. Communism has fucked half as many people over as Islam has.
We're not treating you bad enough if you ask me.
Shit can be used in agriculture, so that makes muslims less useful than manure.
The west falls and your shitholes collapse back to tribal warfare and you know that.
Africans are going to ruin the middle east as much as they're ruining the americas and europe, but this time there will be no one to try and fight it, since you assholes believe that everything, good or bad, that happens is because of Allah. Maybe that's why you never strive to improve anything, still living like the primitive desert assholes that you were when the goat fucker Mohhamed(aids be upon his shriveled corpse) lived.
Still stupid and violent, after all these centuries.

>thinking the Church intended for Constantinople to be sacked is laughable, Innocent was absolutely devastated by the turn of events.
suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure

To be fair, Turks are okay. At least they speak English, and understand democracy. But these recent wave of Merkel's rapefugees must GTFO or die

Idk why you Arab Shitskins are so dumb fucks.

There are only 3% mudslimes living in Mongolia now who are of Kazakh origin and migrated there during the USSR occupancy of Mongolia.

>That's mostly bullshit the church came up with to justify ending them.
>They started wanting to be a sovereign state of sorts, but the pope wasn't having that shit.
>He used his influence with nobility and the judgement of a Templar as being a heretic to basically frame the entire order.
>The Pope decided he had the final say, and once the Inquisition wasn't fucking them over, most Templars denied the crimes they had confessed. The pope tried to get a neutral dude to weight in on the matter, but the king of france was buttblasted over them, so he started burning them at the stake because of the "confessions" the Inquisition had gotten.
Wow, what the hell is wrong with any Christcuck that still follows Catholicism and the Popery bullshit waggon.

I'm sorry, I read a good amount of the bible and nowhere does it ever say that after Jesus we should create a humongous, over staffed church system headed by a Pope who must be the closest of us all to God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit.

The whole Catholic church main Pope idea is inches away from being nothing but a plot by the devil to perverse Christianity and God's message. If it wasn't that already from the beginning.

fucking idiot burger who has never read any history besides wikipedia: shut the fuck up your betters are talking.

>Jews are second priority.
>ISIS are a jewish controlled op
>Jews are second priority
really living up to your flag

>Turks are okay

Fuck off

>rose water

Muslims often scatter rose water over a grave as the last thing before they finish the funeral.

One could interpret it (Out of context, since I do not know the specifics) as meaning that the whole city was made a grave through mass violence and pillaging. That death was everywhere, and so it required a ritual scattering of rose water at the end.

That's hardly "bitching and moaning." Just pointing out that the idea it's unfair of Europeans to demand our land back without ceding a different section of our land is either disingenuous or stupid.

how does that negate what i said?

Refer to Saged

>leaf
>christcuck
>better than anything
go back to fucking dogs, cuck.

Ilkhanate and the Golden Horde converted to Islam, Chagatai Khanate and the Yuan Khanate stayed Nestorian/Buddhist.

The whole of Arab and Islamic Caliphate belongs to Mongols you shitskin. Give their land back to em.

they love to tell lies and masturbate their egos... if you havent noticed lol