Jesus was a proto-communist

>Matthew 6:19-20 “Do not store up treasures for yourself on the earth”

>Luke 6:24-25 “But alas for you who are rich, for you have your comfort”

>James 5:1-6 “Come now, you who are rich, weep, howling out at the miseries that are coming for you”

Why does this sound nothing like the Christianity that nu/pol/ keeps talking about?

The first Christians lived a communist way of life according to Acts 4:32-35:
>"All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had. With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ. And Gods grace was so powerfully at work in them all that there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales and put it at the apostles feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need."

>Matthew 6:24, "No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other.You cannot serve both God and money."

"Each according to his abilities" has Biblical origins too.
>Act 11:29 "Then the disciples, every man according to his ability, determined to send relief unto the brethren which dwelt in Judaea."
And "To each according to his needs" is Biblical, too.
>Acts 4:35 "to the emissaries to distribute to each according to his need."

Stop LARPing that these are Western values.

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How much did they pay you to make this thread?

It's just getting pathetic now.

Have fun in Hell!

>the nu/pol/ pivot
Not an argument, but keep trying to handwave your inconsistency away because you're not biblically literate enough to prove me wrong.

Ah, quoting scripture somehow is worthy of damnation. Gotcha. Don't be mad that Jesus didn't hold the same views as American Republicans in the 21st century. But keep worshiping money while telling yourself that you're a Christian.

Communism Is Neo-Christianity
nationalvanguard.org/2015/11/communism-is-neo-christianity/
archive.is/VxigB

The main diffrence between communism and christianity is that christianity promises you a heaven after life, and communism a heaven on earth, both don't work.

"Christianity And Communism - Jewish Twins" by Ben Klassen.
archive.org/details/ChristianityAndCommunismJewishTwinsKlassen

Taking all those quotes out of context lol nice try

“Christianity, sprung from Jewish roots and comprehensible only as a growth on this soil, represents the counter-movement to any morality of breeding, of race, privilege: it is the anti-Aryan religion par excellence. Christianity—the revaluation of all Aryan values, the victory of chandala values, the gospel preached to the poor and base, the general revolt of all the downtrodden, the wretched, the failures, the less favored, against ‘race:’ the undying chandala hatred is disguised as a religion of love.” -Friedrich Nietzsche – Twilight of the Idols (Chap. 6)

You are very correct. The Christcuck meme is there for a reason. The west was built on Old Testament Torah Judaism. Everything in the New Testament is pacifist commie fuckery. This is why there is such a high degree of cognitive dissonance among Christian conservatives, and why they are so easily manipulated by the left.

Bad goy repent now and adopt a niglet.

Matthew 19:24
"Again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

Jesus and his disciples were basically the welfare losers of Jewish society who couldn't hack it and started a grassroots communist revolt. Jesus was a cuck who married a prostitute. They were the SJWs of their time.

Excellent information. Great memes. Saved it.

And his mom was a whore, and his dad was such a cucked faggot that she convinced him that her Chad baby was put it her uterus by God.

Blah, blah fucking blah.

Jews killed Jesus. Jews invented Communism, not Jesus. I shall remind you that Karl Marx was in fact a Jew and not Jesus.

And Jesus literally saved us from (((them))). And (((they've))) been so desperately butthurt over it for 2 millennia now. That alone makes it delicious. Jesus could be an absolute lie, but it's the one 'lie' the damn kikes are still fighting after 2,000 years.

Don't try to convince these retards, they'll just shout "MUH JEBUS" and "you going to hell, oooo".
>The west was built on Old Testament Torah Judaism
No, it wasn't, it was built on Western ideals and philosophy, not jew shit.

Jews are a high IQ people. A lot of the Jews who rejected Judaism and renounced the faith went on to immoral pursuits that they did well in. Jesus was one of them, Marx was another.

Christianity advocates giving away out of free will. Which is as capitalist as it gets.
Communism advocates for being forcibly taken from.

Jesus wasn't a Communist in so much as he wasn't a Fascist or a Liberal.

Fascism, Liberalism, and Communism only appeared when the fundamental core principles they championed, in corresponding order proud and belonging with a social group, freedom, and also being in a community that takes care of you. Before the Industrial Revolution and printing presses and all these things everyone belonged to a social group where they belonged and were taken care of and were free to go through the Power Process regularly, every day, and generally had content lives.

It is only the degenerating World that is the reason for Liberalism, Communism, and Fascism emerging, as the basic principles which they all championed disappeared from society.

Being beyond worldly desires/material possessions =/= communism

>christian conservatives
Kek!

>Jews killed Jesus
Why do you people think this means he wasn't one of them? He was the jewiest jew, his people killed him because they didn't want an upstart cult leader subverting their traditions.
Why should we worship a jew cultist?

I didn't know the goy god had a penis. I thought Mary M. Packed the unit,the 1st tranny.

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That's cute, but I'd literally murder Marx if given the chance. He is not Jesus. He is a dumb cocksucking armchair economist house boy with a a fabulous cumbeard and nothing more.

That he actually managed to have 100 million people killed in the 20th century only proves how stupid the 20th century actually was.

A just world would have murdered Marx the minute he opened his stupid whore mouth for anything beyond Engles' semen.

>Christkike religion
>Jews give a fucking huge shit about money
>For the love of money is evil
>For money is the answer to all things

Explain this now, especially explain how you've framed a presumption that a non communist government would be needed after the 2nd coming of the son of god would presumably establish some sort of relevance to a communist system. If that triggers you that it would happen that way, you are more attached to a systematic form of government that is only necessary in the timespan that occurs before the 2nd coming. Far right authoritative government, is only necessary due to the existence of evil, if you completely reject Jesus and implicate that because his policy could be seen as communistic you are allowing ideals of the old world implicate that is irrelevant whether Christ comes or not.

What are you fucking saying? That anyone on Sup Forums whos right wing is a hypocrit? Christ hasn't fucking come yet, thats why they would justify their position with that current status.

Its only for the continued survival of civilization that we're hard nosed you idiot. If Christ needs to come back anyway, whats the fucking point of even attempting communism when the only government a believer would actually adhere to is a monarchy where Christ is king.

Seriously, this bait is flat out fucking retarded.

There are no inconsistencies here, you managed to strawman through an implication that we automatically would continue our current system of government regardless of Jesus's return.

No argument, shocker that one.

>Why does this sound nothing like the Christianity that nu/pol/ keeps talking about?
Because nu/pol/ doesn't live in a state of abject poverty. Contextually speaking, even impoverished Americans live better than Roman nobility. How do you measure what constitutes rich when you're 2000 years on from the teachings?

Take into consideration the idea of serving money as a master. What does this mean? You may have your own opinion, but I would assert that those who serve money are not the type of people you would find on Sup Forums. In fact, Sup Forums have a healthy hated of the goybot masses that blindly speak of and follow money and economy as a god.

You won't find many money worshipers among national socialists. NatSocs subjugate money, they don't worship it. Naturally they're averse to the concept of the communism mentioned in the verses you've mentioned.

Regardless, Christ often spoke of impoverishing oneself as a means to cleanse one's soul. Go live in self-inflicted poverty if you like, but you'll find this world is even more hostile to that life than Christ's world.

>I shall remind you that Karl Marx was in fact a Jew
Marx was a Christian initially, Karl Marx wrote a devotional commentary on abiding in Christ that was based upon the fifteenth Chapter of John’s Gospel. He wrote it on August 17, 1835 when he was seventeen years old.

>giving up all private property to live a communal lifestyle is now "as capitalist as it gets"
wot

These teachings have a reason in the past. They are archaic and mostly non applicable in a modern capitalist society. In a time when you didn't have the free market to harness the power of greed, people would exploit others for wealth, and it was easy to do so.

So tiresome. You are wrong. Everything that you have falsely constructed in your mind about those verses can be wiped away with one verse.
2 Thessalonians 3:10 KJV
For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

If any does not work they will not eat. This is commanded. Jesus Christ was no communist.

>The jews are capitalists
>The Christians are gommies

What is the arugement here? That someone completely unrelated to Christ formed a system of government that doesn't function as Christ being the king and it being the people? That someone Christianity is somehow bad because someone of that ilk decided to do something that doesn't realistically portray a theocracy?

>Implying you would be able to eat and have the ability to reject work in a commie country.

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And I was being cute. Not suggesting that Jesus was anywhere near the evil level of Karl Marx, although Jesus probably would have agreed with him in theory.

>managed to strawman through an implication that we automatically would continue our current system of government regardless of Jesus's return.
Nothing I said is predicated on this. Try again?

>Thou shall not steal

Steal = Ownership = Property

Game. Set. Match.

Jesus's point is to not obsess over this shit, you can enjoy it without fucking absolutely needing it every day of your life, just know that its off the world, of the flesh, the pride of life tis not of the father.

Shut your whore mouth. Jews killed the very Messiah they were promised. Jesus called them all out on their own fucking lies. And they couldn't handle it.

Jesus, on the other hand, carried that fucking cross and was in fact crucified.(there may have been a footstool tho. He was in fact Jewish after all).

But all that is beside the point. Karl Marx burns in hell for for the murder of over 100 million people in the 20th century.

And should hell not actually exist. The capitalists shall create one just for him, using robots and quantum entanglement.

That cocksucking Jew cunt set our species back a thousand years, and ushered in a century or murder to do so.

He wasn a living testament as to why abortion is fucking necessary.

The man let his own child starve to death. The lowest Mexican is better than that.

>Paul's words
Is Paul and what he said more important than what Rabbi Yeshua said and did?

>Implying the self-appointed leaders of every communist movement in history didn't do that once they successfully achieved and held power

>burger education
Are you saying you believe communism is a system where work is voluntary rather than where workers own the means of production and the outcome of said production is shared communally among workers?

>If any does not work they will not eat.
Damn, so the elderly, disabled, and children all go without food I guess. Oh wait that would entail a total lack of nuance on the order of your dipshit reply.

No you did predicate it, because your entire OP is implicating that a communist theocratic monarchy or a government in which Christ is in authority and evil is defeated would need to be authoritative and right wing. Its redundant as fuck if evil has been defeated, Christ along with the Bible constantly state that you defend your Doctrine and your Culture.

Thats only necessary because evil uses those to fucking subvert the will of the Good.

Government is only necessary because of we are separate from God for the time being.

You are criticizing Christ and trying to irk far right people into thinking they're hypocrites by implicating certain versus, to incite a sense of contradiction in their current belief.

Their current belief is justified, render unto Caesar what is Caesar 's. Serve your community and the doctrine of faith.

You wouldn't need to constantly be told this shit or hell even read the bible if you were raised in a world that was post Armageddon.

This is fucking terrible bait and switch shit here, im giving you a sage.

Literally pivoting an argument based on the image of communism tarnishing Christ and attacking moral axioms to incite subversive actions.

The only one that could make communism work is God, and if it some how tilts the fuck out of you for thinking that in a world were strong authoritative government is now redundant or unecessary, you may be an over zealous stormfag who doesn't understand that his government exists out of a necessity and nothing more.

Paul was ordained by Christ and was told that his church would be a rock that would not fall. I'd say that's a pretty strong endorsement by Jesus Christ.
The proof is also in the pudding, psychologically. Someone who is given everything without ever having to work for it isn't going to value what they have the same way as they would if they had worked for it. You can see this in many aspects of life, but for the purposes of this subject, especially in welfare and looting. They don't work and they do not produce goods for others so they do not care about the time and money spent by others to make and maintain something. They are like food that has been spoiled by becoming too sweet and rotten. Once spoiled, something is ruined.

Take your meds user.
>That someone completely unrelated to Christ
No that is the issue at hand in the comment and reply, so you're begging the question.

The comment attempted to drive an artificial distinction between Marx as Jew vs Jesus as non-Jew, when it is important to point out a very real influence that Christianity had on Marx before he went to college as he was in fact a Christian with obvious, serious interest in the message of scripture.
This does suggest an influence on Marx and that it is quite plausible that ideas taken right out of scripture made it into communism. Put another way that Christian influence may have in part directly inspired communism.

By the way, after reading several of your meandering comments, I ironically think you have a developing mental illness you should get looked at. Disorganized thinking like that is a red flag.

>Marx tries to make a government that completely functions without christ

What is taking ideals and trying to fix them to reality in a pre armageddon world that basically implicates that if communism were to work it would need to be post Armageddon after everyone has had their record set straight permanently.

You argument relies on the implication the reader makes when he analyzes his own views and then compares them to the verses you cited with Christ. You are trying to get Christians to become leftists by implicating that a ideal government can be achieved outside of the return of Christ thus making his return irrelevant, when its the only fucking thing that would make Communism work.

Equivocation on the word property.
Communal property =/= private property, and stealing is absolutely possible in a system of communal property. For example privatization of property or another example, as the scriptures say, not in accordance with their needs.

Jesus Christ user, you're not even trying at this point since communism 101 brands itself as workers OWNING the means of production.

For fucks sake. You are as dense as a diamond. Not even gonna bother with your blatant attempt to doublespeak and put words in my mouth, but it's quite obvious from the surrounding context I did not include in my post that the nuance is there. As you just demonstrated by your own post, it is difficult to gather the whole of a verses meaning and it's context without including all that.
Just as you did in your own posts. Just as you are attempting to gather the full meaning of something without that full surrounding context.
Game over.

>He believes what communist men have said that are not even relevant to Christ regardless if they're Christians.

not subtle enough.

If what you say is true, then communism would of worked Eons ago. But it seems every time its attempted it just doesn't turn out doesn't it? Its almost like it needed a certain event to occur in order for it to function without subversion.

>Implying this has anything to do with the ideology itself
>implying Jesus and the apostles themselves weren't the self-appointed leaders of their own communal movement.

>"brought the money from the sales and put it at the apostles feet"
Wow the apostles had the rough job of picking up that money and distributing it as they liked, I guess the rules of no work no eat didn't apply to them the same. kek.

>Jesus wasn't a Carpenter
>Jesus didn't pay the disciples a form of wage or barter for their devotion to god or support them because they followed him.

>Telling people not to be greedy is the same as telling them to surrender everything to the Romans
You aren't even trying are you?

>because your entire OP is implicating
You reading in something that isn't there and just repeating it over and over doesn't make it so. You have tunnel vision, which is normal for someone with your condition. Show me where exactly it necessarily follows from what I said that.

I don't hold to nor accept your metaphysical hangups.

>You are criticizing Christ
Where was that in the OP?
> far right people into thinking they're hypocrites
Many are
> render unto Caesar what is Caesar
This verse doesn't at all undermine the parts of scripture quoted, including the condemnation of the rich and the urging to give up private property. Pathetic handwaving once again.

You could pick out quotes from Henry Ford and say he's a communist. Not pro-christian, but you should be intellectually honest.

Your incoherent rambling is once again concerning. Seriously take your fucking meds user.

>You are trying to get Christians to become leftists
nope
>by implicating that a ideal government can be achieved
nope

Again I don't share your metaphysical hangups and so all of this manic drooling over pre/post armageddon is you just talking to yourself.

Pretty simple, you asserted the verse was a direct, unambiguous defeater of that which was in contention. This claim was dismantled by pointing out that it rested on an absurd misunderstanding of communism. It is clear cut, you got BTFO.

Show me in the bible where it ambiguously says he, upon and after starting his ministry, worked as a carpenter and paid his disciples.

>wage... or barter ...or "support" them
wow really widening the semantic field there

Nope. Now you are trying to apply (((typical))) doublespeak maneuvers. Nice try Shlomo.

>Literally telling people to give up property
>acts literally reports that no one was claiming property as their own and shared everything they had
>thinking this has anything to do with merely 'not being greedy' or 'giving everything up to the romans'
Mouthbreather anons are hilarious.

>If what you say is true, then communism would of worked Eons ago.
No, that doesn't follow. I'm not advocating communism you retard.

I am letting the scripture speak for itself, and acts portion quoted is in fact extremely detailed and unambiguous. If you think a proper counter case can be made, then fucking make it instead of gesticulating at a distance with overly general insinuations.

>nothing left but ad homs and vague accusations
Well at least you tried user.