Multi culturalism

Guys, could you give me an example of multiculturalism ever working in History?

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Poland - poor
Sweden, Germany, Netherlands - rich

Civilizations that lasted with multiculturalism?
i'm a ex-progressive guy and left wing and i'm having more and more doubts.
I think it can work but only when ressources aren't scarce.

what is you saying?

Arab/dravidian numerals.

Theres strength in diversity if its led by rich white ppl

It's not about resources. It's about races being fundamentally different and incompatible.

Swden - very multiculti, very enrichened

When the Romans let gobs of Vandals in.

Multiculturalism will never work.
But, what is important, that doesn`t mean that people from different cultures can be sustained together.
And what we need for that? Right, one culture, one idea, cult, whatever you call it.

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then just say that you austitic

Resources are always scarce. Always.

Look at the richest countries in the world, which are almost post-scarcity regarding the basic necessities for survival. Nobody starves to death in Germany.

Now what's scarce is housing in certain neighbourhoods, iPhones, nice cars, brand goods, higher education.

Scarcity is a fact of the human condition, it literally can't be eradicated

The definition of (((economics))): the allocation of scarce resources. It's taken by everyone as axiomatic that resources are scarce; multi-culturalism cannot ever work.

they wasn't multicultural when they were getting rich.

and we were multicultural when we were getting poor, both during PLC and during communism(maybe not as a country but as satelite state of multicultural USSR)

New York City is by far the most successful enterprise America has ever created and it's largely thanks to otherwise unprecedented diversity

USA

Yeah, of course, but i it's not all or nothing.
My POV right now is that multi-ethnicity can work but not with multi-culturalism.

What do you guys think?

Concentration camps. Were diverse. Were effective.

Good example, but US are a young country, that had to conquer its wilderness. I mean, ressources in the USA are huge; almost self sufficient

>US most ethnically it's ever been
>Currently the most bitterly divided it's ever been
>Already in a cold civil war and on the brink of splitting up

inb4 we were more divided during the civil war. No we weren't. And besides the civil war was fought over basically the same issues that divide us today. Should whites sacrifice their interests for the sake of taking care of POC or should whites pursue their own interests.

Multiculturalists can only point to western nations that were already wealthy before they became multicultural. Wealthier in fact when you consider how much debt the West is in now. I'd multiculturalism is such a great strength why isn't Brazil the world's preeminent super power?

It doesn’t work because there are too many assholes like OP, in every race.

Unironically, Switzerland

Damn daniel

No it's not because of diversity. It is because of its geography and location but pretty much because that's wherethe Jews decided to set up shop.

>New York City's success has nothing to do with the dollar being the Reserve currency of the world and NYC consequently being the financial capital of the world.

Let's see you go live in the Bronx or East New York bud. You wouldn't dare.

See, people say shit like this all the time, but it's utterly meaningless if you stop to think about it. You have no idea that, or how, New York City's "success" is a function of multiculturalism versus some other factor or factors, that's unknowable.

And who is New York City "successful" for? The record number of homeless it has? The people in Queens bridge projects? Or is it mostly Schlomo?

It's working well in Sweden/Germany right now.
Just look at that overall happiness level increase every single day.

Yeah, the diversity of an all Catholic, all white, all-Lederhosen wearing country.

Yugoslavia.

In my opinion multiculturalism is fine as a concept, and I’m sure it would work perfectly if the cultures within it worked.
A multicultural society of Americans, Anglos, Japanese, autistic Finns and Aussie shitposters would work just fine, but people insist on adding raghead and dindu cultures (which don’t even work in isolation) to the mix.

Movie Villians, all difference races, all doing the same job, being scumbags

>Pic Related the "bad guys" from Assault on Precinct 13 (also John Carpenter's first movie)

Babel

That's right now you can't say anything or you'll be rasict.

roman empire but when roman has strenght enought to asimilate the minories,when the strenght is lost chaos begin and these is what happening in america when the founder grop lost their power is not that the new minorities will continue the legacy of the founder ,look at germans who invaded an stablished the feudalism across europe

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White colonialism

>American Sunday school education

Canada

Germany and Japan, 1930s.

ottoman empire

amrica has been terribly succesful in emulating the romans only if jew didnt happen we will asist to a new and i think friendly competicion against chinese that would have benefited the whole world ,the jews are the biggest misfortune of the west

every metropolis ever

Worked until God BTFO of it.

The Romans learnt cool shit from the Greeks. Both collapsed, so I suppose that's fine.

Celtic Bois, German Alemannen and Roman settlers merging into Bavarians.
Well, you said in history.
The problem is mostly Islam, which is a toxic religion and negroes, which are an inferior subspecies.

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Oh hai Japan!

Remember that axis of evil you were part of?

That was defeated by a multicultural group.

Citystates usually stomached multiculturalism well.
Singspore js a modern rolemodel.

New Zealand under the British crown

It can't exist. Oxytocin is the chemical responsible for feelings of love and trust. This same chemical is also correlated to racism. It basically enhances in group vs out group preference. So the more multiculturalism you have in a society the less social cohesion you will have. There's a Harvard study on that as well. phone posting and too lazy to link.

Societies rewrite trust to function and be stable. Multiculturalism destroys that trust, which is wht it's always a sure sign of a civilizations imminent collapse. Fuck it. Links.

Fate of empires.
people.uncw.edu/kozloffm/glubb.pdf
Here's a tl;dr
ucg.org/the-good-news/the-life-cycles-of-empires-lessons-for-america-today

Here's a rundown of the Harvard study.
archive.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2007/08/05/the_downside_of_diversity/

Save Japan, Nippon bro.

Polish-Lithuanian-Ruthenian Commonwealth
multiculturalism survived for 400-500 years

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Multiculturalism cant exist in a static form. its not a permanent state, so there wouldn't be any example of it. Either one culture will dominate the others, or there will be a melting pot effect.

Egypt is probably the best example of a multicultural civilization, the blacks, the greeks, the mamluks, all had their turn to rule. But today egypt doesnt look so multicultural. its all brown.

The Arabs got them from the Hindus further east. We call them Arabic numerals because we got them from the Arabs.

South Africa. Very multicultural and extremely successful

The fact that youre here making the resources argument means youve already failed. You might as well join the other social outcast degenerate racist filth that populate Sup Forums. Multiculturalism working is called the United States of fucking America you downcast pieces of shit.

Th Roman Empire

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Remember, you're here forever.

Seems like a lot of confusion ITT between multiculturalism and diversity. Leaf is right. Smash two cultures together and one will dominate. Similarly, smash two races together and they will murder each other over racial interests.

underrated

>I am not a racist, I love blacks! P-please don't kill me for being whitey!

In all honesty though America is the best example besides the Roman empire. Cultures maintain because of their antagonist history yet they impact one another, associate and work together toward well defined ends. Its a work in progress but to call the whole effort worthless or non existent is merely to deny reality.

>Invites barbarians into gates
>Place them in the military
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>Examples of successful multiculturalism

USA 1776->1965
Australia 1901 -> ~1975
Early Roman Empire (Rome conquered Greece militarily, but Greece conquered Rome culturally)
Alsace-Lorraine (lovely fusion of German and French culture)
Basically all nation-states
England after ethnic tensions ceased under a unified state

One thing that you'll notice about all these examples is that it involved the same race of people.

Indeed, if we just look at the above examples, none of them were actually "multiculturalism".

Let's look at the definition to see what I mean:

Multiculti:
the presence of, or support for the presence of, several distinct cultural or ethnic groups within a society.

>several distinct ethnic groups

You see, there's the problem. Sure there was 'Italian' and 'German' cultural influences in the USA, a good example being Italian opera which lead to Broadway, and the German naming system for rhythmic values (whole note, half note, etc.). But, and this is important, there weren't any Italians or Germans in the USA, there were only White.

Sure, perhaps to begin with, there were ethnic lines, but they all assimiliated and transformed into 'American' once newer generations started gravitating towards the main paradigm. In other words, it ceased to 'multi' anything, as it tended towards homogeneity. Same hardware, and from there, same software.

So no, and remember this.

I might also argue that this was essentially lightning in a bottle and modern monoracial "multiculturalism" might be impossible.

You see, in the early 20th century and before, immigrants more or less HAD to assimilate.

To give on example Molyneux gives, his mother (or was it grandmother?) would have to wait 6 weeks in order to receive the latest German newspaper. Likewise, a similar delay and disconnect would manifest in her inability to absorb herself into the German world. She was effectively deracinated.

Now, if you compare that to today, where modern day technology essentially allows immigrants to more or less digitally live in their host countries' cultures, it seems inconceivable to believe that integration would be just as easy, not just with the same races, but across fundamentally incompatible common cultural heritages (like the Islamic World or Sub-Saharan Africa).

40% of Californians don't speak English at home. 40%. Whatever lightning in a bottle situation you had WITH THE SAME RACE half a century or a century ago, it's no longer feasible in the Modern Era. This is also taking no note whatsoever of the fact that we don't even encourage minorities to assimilate - indeed, that's the point of multiculturalism, isn't it, constant and unending division? I guess they didn't think that one through, huh?

Whoops, I misspoke

*former countries' cultures.

The scythians

How stupid can you be? America was 90% white until 1965. The Roman Empire slaughtered and enslaved everyone else. A large influx of foreigners has always been the signal of a nation's doom.

The civil war wasn't about black rights lmao. At least not originally.

Ethnicity is the base for accurately understanding and conceiving a certain culture. You can take italians anywhere in the world, for several generations, change their religion, but they will still behave naturally following roman-etruscan culture. Same goes for japanese.

Lol, Hans.

best answer

the nuclear bomb

Funny and true