>Seto Yu is a 12-year-old boy, that is abused violently by his father. One day, he is transported into a fantasy world with video game mechanics after being killed by his abusive father and he discovers that he has the unique ability to steal other people's skills for his own use. He quickly uses his special power to take revenge on the townspeople who bully him and obtains a harem of beautiful girls who love him unconditionally even though he shows no romantic interest in any of them and has the physical build of a skinny teenager.
I bet you $100 that the worst that whoever wrote this' parents ever did was take away their ps2 for a week.
Isekai is the biggest travesty we have seen in a long while.
Gabriel Rivera
This.
Joseph Hill
We desperately need actual classical fantasy manga instead of manga capturing the feeling you had when you were five years old and didn't understand how to play the RPG your cousin brought over so you just walked around and imagined all the zany adventures you would have if you were inside the game.
Ayden Robinson
I feel like that is written to be dumb and funny on purpose
Christian Gomez
He's just pandering to a certain very large demographic.
Grayson Hill
I disagree, it's only become cancerous in it's recent forms, back with things like Digimon or Escaflowne it was pulled off rather well. The trouble is when it's powertripping for the authors as opposed to a simple frame-narrative.
Henry Evans
Just the person who wrote the synopsis on batoto I think.
Jaxon Walker
You Yamada is a 19-year-old young man that is mundane at everything. One day, he is hit by Japanese Truck and transported to a fantasy world where all inhabitants are vehicles that can also transform into cute girls. His father, Optimus Prime, tells You that he has unique special power of Driving License. With Driving License he collects many car waifus who find true bliss in having him drive them hard and fast around race track. Oh yeah, for some reason story became about racing carwaifus at some point.
Robert Moore
Still better than dungeon seeker.
James Kelly
I want to see an isekai where a delinquent who gets into a lot of fights gets thrown into a wartorn land where he can get rewarded for busting faces, but wants to go back to his homeworld because his mom is most likely worried sick about him and his delinquent friends have no idea where he's gone.
Now that I think about it, this sounds like a Yu Yu Hakusho knockoff.
Brody Mitchell
>One day, he is transported into a fantasy world with video game mechanics after being killed I like how you can just nonchalantly mention it in your synopsis at this point.
Juan Wood
You know what's worse? Isekai is now starting to infect Western fantasy. I saw at least 2 isekai shits on audible yesterday. Both were new additions.
It's time to stop this. With lethal force if need be. Someone should go to japan and spray all hugpillows with poison.
Matthew Miller
Oh no not audible!
Angel Bell
Maybe western fiction will be slightly interesting now
Dominic Hughes
>Listening to books
Daniel King
Isekai now: >NTR only in the beginning >Snuff that bitch >Harem of girls >All devoted >Polygamy
Isekai then >Some angsty Chad becomes your best friend >Steals your childhood friend >Still friends with him anyways >Pretend like it's all cool >Marry some faceless mob character and get a boring job at the U.N.
Nathan Diaz
People said that about Dungeon Seeker, but then you read it and you realize oh, this author is entirely serious. I feel dirty even calling these people authors, feels like an insult to legitimate ones.
Josiah Baker
I actually meant the synopsis
Also Dungeon seeker is unironically good Only the beginning is below average
Dominic Johnson
it's literally a child's escapism from abuse. a kid throwing himself into a fantasy land where everyone loves him. depressing!
Cooper Baker
This genre could be saved if it had more Marche characters dropping the real talk.
As opposed to reading them after working for 8 hours? I like having a 20/20 eyesight. I've had it for 30 years not going to fuck it up now.
There was a 90s isekai anime with a bunch of annoying japanese kids transported to a fantasy land. It's basically that. Can't remember the name don't care to look for it, it was a shit genre then it's still shit.
Oliver Bell
I want Isekai shit to leave
David Robinson
>videogame mechanics Fucking why.
Jayden Robinson
>child's escapism from abuse. Child abuse is exceedingly rare in Japan. In general children are rare and the families that do have kids typically really wanted them, so the newer generations are pampered beyond even the Western point of retardation.
It's escapism but not from abuse. It's shit individuals trying to escape the reality of being shit individuals by blaming everyone else besides themselves.
Brandon Moore
I don't get why these authors don't just write a Fantasy story? Why does the "loser irl transported into video games where he is hot shit" angle have to be there?
>He quickly uses his special power to take revenge on the townspeople who bully him and obtains a harem of beautiful girls who love him unconditionally even though he shows no romantic interest in any of them and has the physical build of a skinny teenager. Is this a parody or?
Evan Bennett
So western fantasy will actually not be filled with boring fanfictions now?
Isaiah Flores
That redhead on the left is pretty hot
Alexander Brown
Pampering your kid can be a form of abuse
Nicholas Moore
Because Frodos.
Noah Reyes
Isekai started out as fucking Ragnarok Online fanfiction you meme poster.
Even as a troll what you said is fucking hilarious.
Jackson Thompson
Why on earth are you made that Western Fantasy is now improved from the garbage pile it was?
Cameron Jones
She's a cunt and probably used goods to hell and back again.
Parker Jenkins
It sells in Japan. Why the fuck are movie adaptations always gritty and dark?
Cooper Myers
Did you use a translator? Or are you brain damaged?
Adam Clark
Good lord. This shitty genre has now just become a shitty race to bottom in who can pander the hardest the audience.
Wyatt Butler
Russian fiction already is infested with VRMMORPGS by the way
Blake Stewart
For the same reason isekai has been done better by women for 20 years. As well as sports anime. And drama anime. And heck most anime in general.
Otaku are garbage individuals and whoever reads and enjoys their shit is a garbage individual as well.
Isekai brought us jems like 12 Kingdoms, Escaflowne and Inuyasha. None of those was written by a 30 year old virgin.
Benjamin Hall
>Russian fiction Alexey Pehov is the only Russian fantasy author I can name off the top of my head. Who cares about Russian fantasy anyway?
Lincoln Scott
The old shoujo isekai has such better worldbuilding
Chase Nguyen
I liked Escaflowne when I was a kid, but when I tried to rewatch it a few years back it was nauseatingly bad. You could tell it was written by a woman. A bunch of pretty boys fighting over a girl that barely even looks female.
Anthony Young
why so salty op
Cooper Martin
Isekai shit was already prevalent in young adult novels.
Jaxson Robinson
>bunch of pretty boys fighting over a girl I thought Escaflowne was before the reverse harem era? Shoujo from the 90s and before more often than not have more female rivals, and at most 1 male. All that "hohohohoho" shit.
Juan Myers
Honestly, it seems to me as if entertainment of all forms is going somewhat downhill. I think the root cause of all this is a shift in how producers/creators think of themselves, their creations, and their relationship to buyers/the audience.
In short, producers/creators used to be and think of themselves as "artists", and their creations were "works of art". But now it is only a product to sell, and all aspects of their production are streamlined to this aspect. Anime, manga, movies and all of it these days seems to lack any inspiration or originality, it's just not artistic anymore.
Kayden Cruz
Really the difference between modern LN style isekai and traditional normal person in a fantasy world stories is that isekai shit relies on the protagonist's already existing of fantasy stories and the world being based on those existing preconceptions.
Kids didn't go to Narnia and go "haha this is just like in my Japanese RPGs" then try to game the rules of the world.
Angel Anderson
Isekai isn't bad but most isekai authors are completely shit
Nicholas Adams
Just a friend
Ryan Ortiz
Stop writing like Trump, Narania was the same thing.
Hudson Sanchez
I dunno, the romantic seesaw between that one handsome guy and the male MC ruined the show for me, I couldn't even continue watching. I don't remember if there was a third dude, because I simply stopped watching. Maybe I was just less sensitive as a kid and didn't pick up on it or just simply didn't give a fuck and wanted to see giant humanoid armor battles. The plot wasn't bad from what I remember, I just couldn't get that far before becoming fed up with it.
Christian Taylor
They weren't fighting over HER as a person. And I'm pretty sure it's continuously pointed out she's not a looker.
If anything it's hilarious even a 90s anime can be more realistic with it's interpersonal relationships than the typical isekai.
Carson Walker
>is transported into a fantasy world another one of these, why has japan become such creatively corrupt place?
John Cooper
>One day, he is transported into a fantasy world
And dropped. Why don't Japs have any creativity anymore?
Angel Barnes
>Japanese loser check >ded check >transported to fantasy world check >it's just like a game! check >has a special snowflake ability check >it's some meta shit like stealing skills check >harem of girls check >MC is a colossal faggot check >there's an adventurers' guild check
Bonus points for story's tone: >everyone is a colossal dick >people hate MC because of reasons >MC is an angsty brat
The most creative thing in this is lack of genocidal trucks.
Elijah Adams
Swipe
Blake Taylor
They always were.
Luke Sanders
Because they only create things according to a pre-approved formula, with aa few twists.
Isaiah Gomez
Nobody wants realism in high fantasy, we have Game of Thrones for that sort of shit. Isekai shit is where you get your wish fulfillment on. Your life is shit? Here, this guy's life is shittier than yours; and look, this is what could happen if you went to another world with video game rules! I'd rather read Isekai harem shit than read a story about a Japanese kid living the peasant life in another world or being really shitty at adventuring and whining about how he wishes he was back in Japan. The reason the MCs of these stories are OP is because if they aren't OP, there's no way for them to actually do anything interesting. UNLESS you go the Chinese WN route, where the boring and powerless MC with broken meridians who is despised by his entire family suddenly has a fortuitous encounter and starts walking the road to becoming immortal jesus.
Ryder Baker
i laugh at the fact that weebs are so obsessed with country with some many crappy tastes.
Christian Flores
>But now It has always been like this. It only looks like "art" (as in high art (as in shit that doesn't exist)) if you compress decades and centuries into easy to swallow packages.
Art is actually a craft. It always has been.
Christopher Turner
>blackhair glasses-kun
Is this how the nip male truly see themselves? Like how American males see themselves as young Harrison Ford so they cast him as the protagonist for every movie?
Ryder Carter
Does japan even make good movies anymore?
Long gone are the days of Kurosawa.
Wyatt Richardson
>I'd rather read Isekai harem shit than read a story about a Japanese kid living the peasant life
I wouldn't, that'd be cool. Like Farmland Saga or the farming arc of Vagabond except with fantasy plants, terrain, politics, and animals. The story could be the tapestry of his life as he lives life and builds a family. Maybe he'll me a mediator to problems within the village. Like if someone in town raped a passing elvish noble, or if an orc army was encroaching and the area was about to be a warzone. He's need to petition governments and that type of shit. There's plenty of things you can do if you can actually write a story and characters.
Charles Gonzalez
Well that is because you have a shit taste though.
Charles Rogers
How about an isekai where the MC wants to go home?
Aaron Collins
Yeah. A short, skinny, little faggot. Funny thing is - since anime is aimed at underachievers, they're not even book-smart, forget intelligent, they're even dumber than the average Joe, heck most delinquents in manga and anime are more intelligent then them.
It's hilarious. And sad. But mostly hilarious.
Aaron Campbell
That's the most unbelievable kind
Blake Anderson
How?
Nolan Reed
And then a bandit party comes into town, kills a bunch of people, rapes MC's childhood friend, steals all their shit, and takes off. When the MC has no power to do anything, and the story either becomes a tragedy or a boring diary. It's harder also harder to write and harder to hold peoples' interest.
The only way that shit can work is for things like Spice and Wolf where the MC isn't special, or reincarnated, and is a traveler. There are fantasy elements and entertaining character interactions with new people to keep the story going instead of "today I played with the village children after working in my field for 6 hours"
Tyler Hill
The second FFTA would be a better version of that since in the first game it's all an illusion.
Not really. Pic related does a good job of it. He even goes home and happily stays there at the very end despite all the waifus and wonder of Ivalice.
Jordan Jenkins
Because according to him - MUH ESCAPISM. What he fails to realize is you could escape to a place that's worse than where you originally came from.
Ironically enough, it already has been done. More than once in fact.
Angel Rodriguez
Luso didn't really give a fuck though.
Jace Allen
re: Isekai
If you're tired of reading betamax Nip bullshit, start reading Chinkshit Wuxia and Xianxia instead. 99.999% of their MCs are legitimate sociopathic womanizing mass-murderers. It's fucking great.
They also trend toward being fucklong as well, so there's plenty of content.
Of course that all boils down to a handful of formulas after a while too, but it's a refreshing difference until you start noticing.
Carson Cooper
Underground racing isekai when?
NIGHT OF FIRE
Nolan Green
>legitimate sociopathic womanizing mass-murderers So normal mainland Chinese, then?
Isaiah Sanchez
When I recall why the other three wanted to stay in Ivalice, Ritz's reason is kinda flimsy >Mewt wanted to stay because in the real world, his mother died and his father is a deadbeat alcoholic, in addition to him being bullied constantly at school. >Doned was a cripple with some unknown chronic illness >Ritz- her real hair was white
Nolan Gomez
>Art is actually a craft. I don't disagree with that, but I think that some artists(using the term very loosely) let themselves be influenced by what the crowd wants more and some are influenced less. The alternative is to look inward for inspiration, or somewhere external that isn't the mobs desires.
I'm sure there are people in Japan who are at this moment working on Isekai bullshit, or haremshit, all the while knowing that what they are working on is trash. In the end, I still think there is a concrete difference between people who create something purely in order to sell it, and people who try create something they find aesthetically pleasing.
Kevin Harris
>Pills, pills, and more pills >You can solve all your problems with pills
Lucas Long
Everyone not marche was making fun of her hair color and her mother was in anguish for it
Camden Robinson
>narnia was the same thing so you've never read narnia, sasuga Sup Forums.
Evan Scott
Let me guess, pills made by ancient Chinese recipes with roots and plants only found in China?
Oy. It's pubmed fanfiction.
Lincoln Powell
Marche was pretty based.
Asher Jones
That's a good reason to avoid them
Joseph Cook
>Narania was the same thing. No. Narnia is about escape from boredom more than anything.
Jason Hill
Don't do it anons, chinese wuxia shit is even worse than japanese isekai. >MC is weakest member of great family >Brings shame upon family because he is weak >MC goes into forbidden forest and finds beads laying around >eats them and meditates for power >becomes OP and fights other OP characters because they ate a ton of beads too
and their bead eating fascination comes from one of their emperors back in the day eating balls of mercury cause he thought he'd become immortal or some shit.
Literal retards.
Colton Nelson
There's those pills. Got condense energy pills.
Pills made of dead strong people. Pills that formed by itself in ancient magical wilderness for 2 trillion years.
Joshua King
I want something that isn't either extremes of all powerful psychopath wuxia shit or cardboard cutout non characters like isekai.
Nathaniel Butler
Whats weird about this Ive been reading the manga, or like the 5 chapters out. We I started learning japanese I looked into the top light novels. If I remember correctly 7/10 of them were isekai. This one is a little better because its not a grown man getting a second chance at life in a fantasy world where he's OP.
Xavier Phillips
What video is this?
Xavier Perry
Then you have to look to the west. We're the only middle ground, and most of our stuff is shit too.
Especially the modern stuff.
Jack Kelly
nearly every one of these is the author ranting about their personal problems and living vicariously through their mcs. There are worse ways to cope with your insecurities I guess.
Isaiah Smith
>>This one is a little better because its not a grown man getting a second chance at life in a fantasy world where he's OP.
The ones with an old man are actually the ones that aren't pure shit because there's at least a tinge of humor in them.
What you're reading on the other hand is pure otaku pander - it's still not aimed at kids, most otaku just don't look at themselves as grown men - it'd be hard to do it because they're either part time workers or jobless and virgins.
Dominic Hernandez
Tanaka might be the biggest cuck but at least he's a true blue wizard.