The EU's new trick

Britain is leaving the EU, so Britain's seats in the european parliament will be vacant and they'll have to reapportion them to other countries. Some proppose to just let the parliament be smaller, others to distribute the seats among other countries, but some want something to make the EU stronger and further the euro-federalist agenda: pan-european lists.
What does this mean? That around 10% of MEP's would be elected not as representatives of the people of their countries, on dates of their liking and under their rules, but as representatives of "european citizens" as a whole, not responding to any geographical or national constituency, but to "european voters" as a whole, further destroying national sovereingty, national ties and responsibilities from MEPs

Macron, Italy, Spain, etc all support it already, and this might be just the start in a new push to create the United States of Europe.

euractiv.com/section/elections/opinion/one-head-two-votes-the-case-for-a-pan-european-list-for-eu-elections/

ft.com/content/41918b10-915d-11e7-bdfa-eda243196c2c

theguardian.com/politics/2017/sep/11/vacated-british-european-parliament-seats-eu-wide-candidates

blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2016/03/08/reforming-european-elections-could-a-pan-european-ballot-paper-engage-eu-voters/

euractiv.com/section/future-eu/news/current-meps-could-end-up-on-pan-european-list/

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Sounds transparent and desirable.

That sounds like a blatant power grab by the European Federal Government. MEP's should represent the interests of their states and their citizens. Even the United States does not have this despite the populace feeling more "American" than state nationalists.

like this

You guys really need some kind of two party system if you are ever going to integrate European states.

afaik it's only common in unitary states like Colombia, even federations usually have local or state-based representation, like the US and Canada
I don't think this would be possible, currently the EU parliament is like pic related. I guess the greens could join the socialists and maybe the commies, and ECR and EPP might reunite, but can't reduce it further

No secret

Member countries can't even integrate the WONDERFULLY DIVERSE AND ENRICHING communities within their own borders. The countries themselves will never """integrate""" with each other. If anyone thinks otherwise, try telling a Frenchman that his children will speak German as a first language and see what reaction you get.

Considering our PORTION of MEP pensions liabilities account for £8b of our Brexit deal, can you afford it?

they unironically get pensions?
its always a german huh, pic related

ok now, this is pathetic

If I can vote for JANUSZ KORWE MIKKE I would like this idea

How long until they will force us to learn german language?
youtube.com/watch?v=WG2tafpNa68

Only if his europarty puts him on the list, which might me unlikely

wtf

>pan-european lists
Those are BS.

What I want is districts. Fucking just create districts and vote for one guy per district.

Just fucking use the NuTS-2 regions for it. There are 276 of those regioms, 37 in the UK. So without the UK it is 239 which is absolutely fine for a parliament.

Also, this means people got actually someone to call or email in Brussels that represents them.

If necessary for bs minority reasons, vote for 2 people per district, or use the Aussie alternative vote system.

For what put the communists (literally marxist-leninists) and democratic socialists SJWs in the same bag as social democrats for eternal left dictatorship of EUSSR? Jesus christ.

sounds small for a parliament for all of europe, and it'd be even less representative than it is right now if it's FPTP, which might just make eurosceptics even more pissed (which is good btw) or give them a majority some day

might be the chaos option

>pan-european lists
>Those are BS.
politico.eu/article/meps-debate-who-inherits-british-seats/
>Gianni Pittella, the president of the Progressive Alliance of Socialists and Democrats group, said he had “sympathy” for the idea of a pan-European list, “which would represent a step forward in the process of integration and creation of a European democratic space,” he said.

>Another promoter of the pan-European plan is Emmanuel Macron, the centrist candidate who is favorite to become France’s next president, who incorporated the idea in his presidential program.

>But others are not so sure. Critics charge that a pan-European list — allowing candidates to represent a single European constituency — is an unrealistic and federalist whim that would require a treaty change. They believe these lists would further deepen the existing gap between EU citizens and politicians.

The unelected EU govt is run by the ancient enemy of the European people.
They must fall.

youtube.com/watch?v=udnauLOeDE0&app=desktop

Funny how whenever they face any kind of resistance all the Federalists can do is triple down

Burgers love 2party systems for some reason, then spend thread after thread bitching about theirs

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>all the Federalists can do is triple down
Exactly.

>USE by 2025
Pajeet tier

our Nig was quoted at £75,000 a year.
The EU quoted £8b total
That's right 1/27 of the share of pension liabilities equals £8billion.

What leeches

>Those who are against it will simply leave the EU
About time this shitshow ended