I'm interested in a general discussion of the history and present-day politics of the Eastern Orthodox Church. I know very little about it, past its historical split with the Roman Catholic Church. I do have some idea that it's the most pagan-influenced major sect of Christianity, with many unusual ideas regarding particularly salvation (possibilities of salvation after death and even loss of salvation after death, etc.) I also know that in many pictures they appear far more like a pagan organization than Western institutions, but I think a lot of that is just their general aesthetic style versus Western aesthetics (dress and grooming, mostly.)
Eastern Orthodoxy General
Ryan Perez
Other urls found in this thread:
antiochian.org
amazon.co.uk
amazon.co.uk
amazon.co.uk
amazon.com
amazon.com
youtube.com
pravmir.com
youtube.com
youtube.com
youtube.com
youtube.com
youtube.com
youtube.com
twitter.com
Gabriel Barnes
I don't give a crap about the particular made up stuff about the religion... What I want to know is how successful is the culture, and what is life like under that religion for the individual.
Eastern Orthodox is a contender, but seriously, the only religion that has had a positive impact on culture was the old Roman Catholic religion.
Hunter Morales
Pastor Stephen Anderson says they suck so I don't like em.
Eli Walker
>the old Roman Catholic religion
The deification, for all intents and purposes, of a line of mortal men chosen by other mortal men is kind of a killer for me. I'm a loose Baptist personally, but nondenominational for the most part. I was raised being taught so heavily of the ways Jesus explicitly said His sacrifice enabled mortal men to commune directly to the Lord without a priest class, that the modern and historical Catholic church seems outright blasphemous to me. I understand EO is very similar, and for clarification I'm not considering conversion, I'm just curious and want to open a conversation.
Jaxson Price
Canada, please respond in an intelligent manner or not at all.
Josiah Edwards
History of the Orthodox Church:
Act 2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
Act 2:2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
Act 2:3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
Act 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
Zachary Edwards
This seems to be a pro-EO post, please explain further though. Are you saying this was a prophecy of the schism between Roman and Eastern Orthodoxy, or something else?
Alexander Jones
That is not a prophecy. It is the birth of the Orthodox Church. Christians were first called Christians at Antioch.
Act 11:26
And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
That church still exists today, and has an archdiocese in North America:
Isaac Hughes
Less faggoty version of the catholic church. Liturgical style with good music is good for contemplation or just show up like half the crowd at the end to recieve your juice and crackers so you can feel better about all of the shit you did wrong last week. Half the service is in greek but the food and dancing are good at the greekfest. Good place to make business connections if thats your sort of thing. In the end they are still cucked though. I attended for a few months. The preist sent around a special plate for the people of the island of lesbos who had just experienced an earthquake. He just could'nt say enough nice thigs about all the great work they were doing helping the invading african and sandnigger hordes get a foothold in europe.
Sebastian Richardson
Let's judge the entire Church based on one priest's message.
Read For My Legionnaires, newfriend
Anthony Robinson
I don't dispute the history with you. I understand you to be saying that the EOC is the true and only Orthodox Church? If so, can you lay out the exact reasons why you believe this, and why you believe it to be important? I'm a very nondenominational/grassroots Christian, and I'm not sure I fully empathize with people who grant such a strong central Church authority to mortal men after the apostle Peter, and even the authority of the apostles was I believe intended to be used as a beacon to spread His word rather than a centralized organization to dictate interpretations and practices of His church.
Christopher Martinez
I think most of the rise in popularity of the Orthodoxy is that people want to be counter-culture to the insane liberal clown world we live in, but Catholicism is too cucked so they see some memes of priests sitting with bears and slavic culture clubs of some EO Church and think, "woah fuckin BASTE" and go larp as Orthodox for a while.
Matthew Morris
>Good place to make business connections
Even in burgerland? I figured a church with such a relatively-small foothold wouldn't be as good as, say, a Baptist or Lutheran congregation.
But a church shouldn't be, I believe, for professional contacts. It's good to hear that the community is wholesome. As far as cucked, I think the Christian message is inherently about love for your fellow man (which is what helped bring me back into the fold and feel the spirit of the Lord again), and it's very hard to popularly differentiate that from allowing millions of rapefugees into your lands. I think it's important for a church to remain fairly apolitical, and even Jesus alluded at this several times. But I also can attest that, once you become integrated in a church community, many will admit privately to having heavily Sup Forums-tier views on refugees.
On that note, one of my biggest splits with mainstream Christianity is the mission culture, specifically where large groups go on mission trips to essentially do basic labor for a community whose economy is based around basic labor, in essence hurting that local community and building reliance upon foreign aid as well as an idea that emigrating to 'white' nations (and raping our women, of course) will give them a wonderful life.
Isaac Kelly
No, that would largely be pagans. Of all the Orthodox Christians I've met online, regardless of their reasons for joining the faith, they are avid believers and church goers.
Levi Hernandez
Guess I was wrong then. Gonna go convert now.
Landon Turner
If your sentiment is true, I'd highly advise you to. It's a beautiful thing, the Orthodox Faith. You won't regret it.
Robert Adams
Well that makes a lot of sense. Aesthetics has been a huge Church-pushed meme throughout history, the Pope didn't build magnanimous cathedrals because of anything Jesus said. In fact, in honest interpretation, Jesus would have been very much against the meme of rich cathedrals set against a backdrop of rural and urban poverty and class divisions.
>not saying He was a communist
He really was much more of a National Socialist, in literal terms, but it's important to remember that he explicitly states multiple times that He came not to change the government but the Church.
>pic related: people trying to interpret the words of the Son of God in relation to government and politics
Carson Ortiz
I have been looking into it, reading, listening to ancient faith, etc.
That post was just my own insecurities about my faith coming out desu.
David Johnson
well like I said, I hope you're genuine in what you're saying. I've got some book recommendations for you if you're willing to read.
Josiah Jackson
It's mostly ethnic clubs. Good if you want to LARP as an easterner or be adopted by an old babushka. Their historicity is just as made up as the Roman Catholic's. Episcopal polity, icons, relics, cults of martyrs and saints, all of this is post-apostolic.
Cooper Sanchez
Lay em on me my dude.
Asher Robinson
amazon.co.uk
amazon.co.uk
amazon.co.uk
amazon.com
amazon.com
Most of these (should) be in pdf form out there somewhere, but all of these are sold in local Orthodox Churches.
I suggest you buy them there
pic related
Dominic Brown
>be adopted by an old babushka
Has this ever happened? How do I get adopted? What are my chances of scoring free kompot?
Sebastian Roberts
Thanks user. Saved em all. Law of God seems like a good place to start.
Josiah Sanders
Orthodox "ritual" on the left.
Not even once.
Jaxon Martin
Based
Liam Robinson
Look, Christianity is bullshit and a gay Jewish religion. The only way to judge it is how good it was for society. Old Roman Catholicism created cathedrals and the greatest art of all time. Protestantism just created Zionism and capitalism. It is easy to see which is better.
Easton Thompson
The Greeks are like the Jews of Christianity in that they are nepotistic and entrepenurial. Don't take that the wrong way. I think that those are admirable traits. They have coffee hour after church(which is really cool by the way) and so I got to know a lot of them while I was there and they are all bleeding heart liberals. All of the churches are fucked. They exist to make money to make old women feel better about themselves. If a church is incorporated (and nearly every one is) then it is either owned by the government or the mother church. Organized Christianity truly is the Whore of Babylon.
Nicholas Lewis
The problem.ia that you went to a Greek church. Greeks are faggots and shitskin Turk rape babies, and in the USA they are all far left anti-white scum. You have to go to a Russian church.
Blake Allen
>a gay Jewish religion
Jews hated Jesus more than anything, my dude. Jews are, if anything, the relics who refused to change and accept Holy Truth, choosing rather comfort and ancient rituals. The only reason Israel appears pro-Christianity is because burger, a heavily-Christian nation, is keeping them from being overrun by muzzies and Russkies right now.
Jonathan Smith
>Organized Christianity truly is the Whore of Babylon.
I'm not as extreme, but I share a distrust of organized religion. I travel a lot, so I'm finding new churches a lot, and when I see any church being a part of a larger organization like that it's a huge turnoff.
Like I stated before, I'm not seeking conversation to EO or anything, just looking for information.
Bentley Nelson
wow it's almost as if you're in America and haven't been realised how reactionary the Eastern Orthodox Churches really are or something
Hunter Scott
>Jews hated Jesus more than anything, my dude
Doesn't change the fact that Jesus was a Jew and that Christianity is derived from Jewish scriptures. All of the bible was written by Jews, except for Luke and Acts. The old testament is Jewish as as fuck, and the new testament is literally cuckoldry. There is not much good in it.
>The only reason Israel appears pro-Christianity is because burger, a heavily-Christian nation, is keeping them from being overrun by muzzies and Russkies right now
Oh, you're retarded. I am sorry I responded.
Caleb Wright
Not him, but as a Brit can you tell stories of some more traditional EO churches in the UK? I know that the Russian government is publicly very reactionary-Orthodox but as I'm constantly stating I know very little about the mainstream Church itself and I'm very interested in learning more.
Jaxon Roberts
Im going for my first time to greek orthodox tomorrow. Would you say the churches are similar?
Xavier Kelly
Eastern Orthodoxy has its flaws, but it's the best you're gonna get, user. At least they realize that there is something special in the blood and have ethnic jurisdictions
David Lewis
I'm interested in why you believe Israel appears pro-Christianity for any reason other than making sure the Walmart/McDonalds voters keep on supporting their greatest ally. After all, Russia (fairly Christian, EO) is no more pro-Israel (to my knowledge) than their countless muzzie neighbors who constantly try to destroy the nation of Israel.
Christianity IS derived from Jewish scriptures, but with heavy modifications. Christ essentially changed some of the greatest parts of Judaism, the most major being the necessity of a (((priesthood))) to facilitate communications between the common man and the Lord, as well as ending the tradition of physical sacrifices which were heavily merchant-ified (as showcased in the famous scene of the Lord Jesus' rage towards merchants inside the Temple.)
Xavier Myers
I've been to many Orthodox churches in the UK and all of them abide the same conduct, everything is sung in Old Church Slavonic, men and women are separated, whilst non-slavs are accepted, they're generally looked down upon. Every clergyman always pushes for unification of church and state, and most priests care little for opposition to phyletism.
In fact, the ROCOR are the ones who took the Orthodox Nationalist in when his spiritual father abandoned him.
Eli Torres
to understand eastern orthodoxy you need to understand the difference between greek and judeo-christian philosophy. orthodoxy is influenced heavily by greek philosophy which i am no longer particularly fond of
here is a decent introductory video on the subject though the professor presents a rather weak representation of judeo-christian philosophy
youtube.com
Lincoln White
I don't.belueve Israel appears pro-christianity. They are clearly anti-christianity. But that doesn't somehow make Christianity good. It is still a branch of Judaism, still uses entirely Jewish scriptures, worships a Jew as god, follows Jewish moral teachings, etc. It is Jewish. Period.
Easton Lopez
Fuck off. This garbage belongs on . You want to be a superstitios retard and a nigger loving traitor? Well, you can fuck right off, you don't belong.
You belong in a shallow grave.
>Roman Catholic religion.
>positive impact on culture
Congratulations, you're retarded.
Julian Rivera
>orthodoxy is influenced heavily by greek philosophy
That is the only reason it is any good. Everything good in Christianity is taken from pagans, everything bad in Christianity is inherent in its own Jewish scriptures and unique to the religion.
Aiden Green
>one priest
Its every priest. Do you think there's a single church that doesn't support the "refugees"? Stop being deluded.
Zachary Campbell
>loss of salvation after death
Can someone explain this? Are you saying if I try to molest a little girl in Heaven I'll be kicked out?
Andrew Morgan
From jewdipedia
One variation of the Orthodox Cross is the 'Cross over Crescent', which is sometimes accompanied by "Gabriel perched on the top of the Cross blowing his trumpet."[8] Didier Chaudet, in the academic journal China and Eurasia Forum Quarterly, writes that an "emblem of the Orthodox Church is a cross on top on a crescent. It is said that this symbol was devised by Ivan the Terrible, after the conquest of the city of Kazan, as a symbol of the victory of Christianity over Islam through his soldiers"; the Orthodox World Encyclopaedia concurs with this view.[9][10][11] However, B.A. Uspensky offers another view, stating that in pre-Christian times, the 'Cross over Crescent' symbolized the sun and the moon, and that in the Christian Era, the cross is a symbol of Christ and the moon is a symbol of the Virgin Mary.[12]
Connor Rogers
...
Brody Young
It's like Heimbach, they see online "le based Orthodax church" and think "yeah, that'll be great" and get their shit smacked in if they ever actually go to a church..
Brandon Rogers
pravmir.com
Some of us actually still live by Matthew 7:6
Jonathan Gray
Well you seem to start from the very idea that any seed of Abraham is evil, when really the Jews were persecuted and not at all the banker bogeyman of modern times until several hundred years AFTER the death of Christ.
Ironically enough, it was the Roman Catholics' rules against Christians being involved in banking that led to Jews being so heavily represented in banking, and in turn in global affairs. The Jews of the Old Testament are very different from the Jews of the modern era.
Sup Forums is a Christian board, my friend.
Xavier Martinez
...
Jaxson Robinson
...
Liam Barnes
Keep in mind that today's Orthodoxy is composed of people whose faith survived the complete cultural and rationally hopeless domination by either the Arabs, the Turks, the Communists, or all of the above. Maybe part of its appeal comes from the idea that Western culture seems to be falling under a similar veil. It's worth listening to them whether it was their dogma or other factors that got them through. Orthodox stronk.
James Foster
...
Jonathan Carter
it is still quite intriguing that this tiny roman vassal state managed to have such a huge impact on the world. obviously there was a room for it in the human heart.
it has the tendency to transcend human logic yet still manage to profit its adherents, which i have personally experienced
Mason Phillips
>that any seed of Abraham is evil
Because they are. Even in their own myths they're compete vermin.
>The Jews of the Old Testament are very different from the Jews of the modern era.
What the fuck are you talking about? Yes, they are. They're exactly the same. They were scheming, lying, backstabbing, cousinfucking scumbags in those stories just like they are today. What difference do you think there is.
>Sup Forums is a Christian board, my friend.
No, it isn't, you retard. Just because there's a few of you shitposters who spam this shit doesn't make you a majority.
Dominic Moore
...
Easton Ross
Heimbach went to a European church and they told him there was nothing wrong with anything he believed. The problem is in America, since it is a liberal shit hole.
Ethan Richardson
...
Charles Brooks
that's what I said in regards to the Orthodox Nationalist
ROCOR is a good church for nationalists
Angel Barnes
>Well you seem to start from the very idea that any seed of Abraham is evil, when really the Jews were persecuted and not at all the banker bogeyman of modern times until several hundred years AFTER the death of Christ.
False. Read the old testament. The Jews in the stories act exactly like modern Jews. Read accounts of Jews by Romans. They described them the same way. Jews have always been subhuman scum.
Your problem is that you're a bluepilled newfag who believes "Jews are only bad because of their religion, but if they convert then they are good." You don't understand Jews because your mind is colonized by Jewish fairy tales and deranged Jewish morality.
Jordan Phillips
...
Matthew Lee
...
Daniel Ward
...
Michael Hill
>The Jews of the Old Testament are very different from the Jews of the modern era.
Esther: story of a Jewess seducing the King and then using her power to convince him to genocide enemies of the Jews, after false claims of persecution. 100% identical to what Jews do today.
David and Goliath: story about a weak and honorless kike cheating in a duel against a superior opponent
Moses: Jewish revenge fantasy story about a kike whining that the goyim are persecution him, then the Jewish demon yahweh killing their children.
It is 100% Jewish to the core. You don't understand this because you are also an honorless subhuman just like the Jews that you worship
Adam Hall
Well, it’s a religion that is practiced by nonwhite subhumans exclusively, except ethnic Russians. And ethnic Russians don’t really believe.
Good orthodog is a dead orthodog
Ethan Jenkins
>obviously there was a room for it in the human heart.
There is room for it in the subhuman heart, because it is a religion designed for mass consumption by lazy niggers. Just show up to church, pray to Jesus, and you are done. None of the difficult practices or aristocratic nature of other religions.
Carson Edwards
Do not trust kikes, ever. Kikes will kike, they always have and always will.
Jose Phillips
>They're exactly the same
The Jewish institution of banking and international industry is very recent, relatively speaking, and certainly post-Christ. The Jewish religion has never had a landed nation until post WWII, and were nothing but a wandering tribe until some of them settled in the Roman Empire as incompletely-Romanized citizens before the coming of the Christ. Jews did indeed kill Jesus, but it was a non-Jewish Roman who gave them authority to do so.
Again, the modern banking/corporate institution of Judaism is very recent, in historical terms.
>They were scheming, lying, backstabbing, cousinfucking scumbags in those stories just like they are today
While I accept that there's no shortage of this in the Old Testament, much of it even glorified, I believe it's important to realize that this was just how the world operated in those times, just as selling preteen girls into marriage was normal in those days whereas today it would be regarded as horrible. Do you disagree?
Juan Rivera
The only problem with Orthodoxy is that it's split among ethnic lines. It's very hard to be accepted into an Orthodox church if you're not Greek/Serbian/Russian, etc
Dominic Reed
>Do you disagree?
Yes. There is a clear difference between the mythology and philosophy of ancient Germanics/Romans/greeks and the Jew Bible. The Bible reads like it was written by Hollywood kikes. It's like bad fanfiction.
Sebastian Russell
SCHISMATICS
Connor Cox
That's simply not true in my experience. I have attended Greek and Russian services and have been welcomed without any issue what so ever. The only problem I have experienced is that Russian Orthodox tend to do the entire service in Russian and I don't have a clue what they are saying.
That could just be in the states though, I'm not sure how things are in other countries.
Luke Cruz
you forgot joseph basically eradicating private property in egypt during the years of famine in egypt.
a road trip through the old testament will dissolve any superficial notions of pleasant morality. yet these things are that which occur in the high places. they are the heavenly wars which the common believer has no business concerning himself with lest he be duly called. pleasant morality is the common believers duty, the vicious activities which take place in high places are the concern of God
Anthony Jackson
Jews have nothing to do with god, and neither does the Jewish bible
Elijah Wilson
>church if you're not Greek/Serbian
Who wants to pray next to brown subhumans? ORTHODOXY IS NOT RACIAL
It should be treated as racial foreign wog agent. Greeks are NOT White. Can’t wait to see them all wiped out with SSA virus. I don’t even know why we are not outright killing greeks if anything. That’s how their ELITE looks like. That’s some strong resemblance of Irish-abbo quadroons and mulattoes in Australia
INCREDIBLY ugly, mongrels with nigger and gypsy dna, cucked, non-racist, poor, cant fuck their women, have no relation to Hellenic race but still WEWUZ.
Doesn’t even take post-WWII 24/7 brainwashing for a greek subhuman to behave like a cuck. Those animals have ALWAYS been anti-racist since the times of Byzantine
youtube.com
youtube.com
youtube.com
>mfw subhuman ahMeds that are shitskined, poor AND cucked all at the same time screeches about some high ground
youtube.com
youtube.com
Adam Smith
I only look half caste aboriginal, because both of my parents are Greek
Cooper Phillips
>Read the old testament
imblying I haven't
The Jews in OT used a lot of trickery, but it was a very different time. Everyone killed everyone and stole their shit. Jews in the OT did not run international banking/investment firms, they did not manipulate nations into going to war unless those nations wanted to kill them, and so on. The Lord Jesus was actually one of the greatest voices against the tricks of modern Jewry, again I reference his rage at merchants inside the Temple and against the Pharisees who proclaimed the Word but then practiced only (((jewry))).
What, then, do you pledge allegiance to? Atheism, paganism, or any other religion? I seem to be stating this with every other post, but this was never intended as a pro-EOC thread but merely a thread seeking EOC information.
Bentley Allen
im orthodox myself and know very little lmao.
Nathaniel Watson
youtube.com
This is enough to get you started.
Justin Cooper
...
James Thomas
>the mythology and philosophy of ancient Germanics/Romans/greeks
Heavily centered, as I recall, around various demigods and pagan spirits impregnating teenaged girls before leaving without any further contact.
Philosophy is an entire bundle of shit, as it was heavily intermingled with gay pedophilia and all that other shit, if you're going to bring Greek legends into this fuckery.
>bad fanfiction
It's also heavily monogamous (with the exception that kings are allowed to have six gorillion women as long as they were chosen by Yahweh) and racially segregated, unlike the Hollywood shit where they seem to throw in black weiners at every opportunity.
Elijah Davis
this is an issue of christendom not christianity, where the states of the past declared christianity as the official religion of their nation and the people had little choice in the matter of their church attendance. today it has been diluted to the point where people may attend church to satisfy their ethical obligations to the structures and institutions of their societies, (ie. settling down), which has indeed become even more uncessessary in todays secular society.
im my opinion it is a good thing that christianity has lost its state and social mandates so that only the true disciples will remain. i have been in the presence of the superficial believer and the true disciple so your disdain is well warrented. but to be in the presence of a true believer is incredibly powerful
Jacob Kelly
>they did not manipulate nations into going to war unless those nations wanted to kill them,
Esther. Already cited it. The Jews lived comfortably, but this was "persecution" for them. Same story all through history. Jews are subhuman scum. You read their stories and worship them.
>What, then, do you pledge allegiance to?
Race. My belief is truth, closest resembling the Vedas.
Levi Young
All religious arguments aside, if race is the only thing you pledge allegiance to, what race are you? It seems that it's very hard to find a race that isn't actively trying to destroy itself through immigration/refugees these days. It's one thing to be proud of your heritage, but to say it's the only thing you pledge allegiance to is something I'd be very interested in hearing you justify.
Oliver Cook
>where the states of the past declared christianity as the official religion of their nation and the people had little choice in the matter
This is the opposite of what happened. The lowest shitskin rabble were the first adherents of Christianity. They acted like the inhuman animals they were. Eventually they reached such numbers that they won it through quantity over quality and the leaders decided to switch to the religion in order to make use of the shitskin subhumans for their own ends. Just like political leaders today mobilizing the masses of niggers and christfags towards their goals. Christianity was the original Black Lives Matter movement.
Xavier Gomez
>It's one thing to be proud of your heritage, but to say it's the only thing you pledge allegiance to is something I'd be very interested in hearing you justify.
What would you expect me to be loyal to otherwise? Jewish fairy tales? A schismatic rabbi crucified by romans? Israel? Loyalty to race is loyalty to my nature.
Joseph Williams
What is your race? Are you pure, or Amerimutt like 90% of the posters on this hellhole?
Being loyal to a "race" is a very open line, it could mean anything from Hitler to Merkel.
Jacob Roberts
i see i have mistaken you for someone capable of rational dialogue so heres your (you) and goodbye
Justin Baker
>Being loyal to a "race" is a very open line
No it isn't.
Not an argument. Refute what I wrote. Were the subhuman jews and niggers the first adherents of christfaggotry or were they not?
Owen Phillips
>niggers
>first adherents to Christianity
my dude what?
>WE WUZ CHRISTIANZ N SHEEIT
Bentley Gonzalez
Is going to a Antiochian Orthodox Church okay?
Aiden Thomas
Niggers meaning various types of brown people in general. All brown people are essentially niggers, so it is not worth it to make distinctions. Were the first adherents niggers or not? They were, of course. Just as Jesus and all of his disciples were niggers.
Only if you're With Her™
pic related
Isaac Lee
>going to a church formally affiliated with a major denomination
That's borderline Catholic levels of cucked, it's no surprise there's so much blue on that chart desu
Gavin Green
> "the new testament is literally cuckoldry. There is not much good in it."
> "Everything good in Christianity is taken from pagans"
> "Jews have nothing to do with god, and neither does the Jewish bible"
You sure like shitting up this thread and creating (((doubt))). Go make a paganism general thread and we'll see if I can shit it up for you.
Jacob Watson
Not an argument. Try addressing my points. Was the bible written by kikes or not? Did the Jews in the bible act like modern Jews or did they not? Was Jesus a shitskin nigger Jew or was he not? Were his disciples Jews or were they not?
Ryder Long
Glory to Jesus Christ! After church today I'm flying to America! Very excited. Pray for me please.
Tyler Cooper
I don't give two fucks whether you think I have an argument, you kike provacateur. Are you going to grab a mop and clean this shit up or walk away like the cowardly bitch that you are?
Liam Johnson
Was David a dishonorable Jewish kike or was he not? The people would like to know
Mason Long
>John 7:1 After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him.
When Jesus fulfilled the prophecy of being denied by Jews he preached to gentiles. Most Christians were Greek.
>john12:20 Now there were certain Greeks among those who came up to worship at the feast.
21 Then they came to Philip, who was from Bethsaida of Galilee, and asked him, saying, “Sir, we wish to see Jesus.”
22 Philip came and told Andrew, and in turn Andrew and Philip told Jesus.
23 But Jesus answered them, saying, “The hour has come that the Son of Man should be glorified.
Nolan Walker
Not going anywhere until you answer the important questions.