Americans: What’s your excuse for not wanting universal healthcare...

Americans: What’s your excuse for not wanting universal healthcare? Almost every other industrialized nation in the world has universal healthcare. The only con is higher taxes, but it’s worth it because healthcare is already so expensive.

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Because we are not a socialist or communist nation. Why cant you fucks understand and yes I know this is bait

good luck remortgaging your house next time you sprain your toe

Its called having medical insurance fuckwit

Ya we have that too retard, but our baseline healthcare doesn't financially ruin people unlike yours

>Because we are not a socialist or communist nation
Pretty much all countries outside of Africa have free health care and they aren't commie/socialist either. Turns out that when you grow up you understand that not everything is a dichotomy, but something much more complex.

Ours didn't either. At least before king money got to it.

I have Medical, Dental, and can even go to the Chiropractor with my insurance through work. My medications when I get them are like 12 bucks......KYS poor fag

>European s post the"americans are fat 56%ers"
>they don't understand why we don't want to pay for other American's health

we have the greatest healthcare in the world thanks to our system

not poor, part of that is due to me not having to pay for medical insurance

gg fgt

These EU fags dont understand our Hospital rooms are like 4 star hotels.

>What’s your excuse for not wanting universal healthcare?
I want useless people to die.

have fun paying for your healthcare literally forever, even when you're not using it

Too many niggers who would exploit it like the NHS.

>Because we are not a socialist or communist nation.
So? Neither are most places.

they literally use as few stitches as possible over there to save money. fucking pathetic

Countries with free healthcare should be considered 3rd world countries

I pay 65 every two weeks from a 1550 pay check. OH MY SO EXPENSIVE

I will!

A happy society is better for everyone

Niggers and spics. I'd be fine with universal healthcare if at least most people paid their taxes and wouldn't abuse it, but that just isn't possible in a country with our demographics.

I demand a Ferrari's to be happy. Your taxes should pay for them

Is that not what you do too? But more?

Same here. What advantage are you (((told))) you have?

>American education

>#
The economic burden of the NHS is literally ruining your country

didn't realise that healthcare was considered an exclusive luxury

Because we need a way to keep niggers from going to the emergency room every time they get a sniffle. People, given free stuff, will abuse the fuck out of the system giving away free stuff.

A small cost to get healthcare means you're serious about being treated and wanting good treatment. Just waltzing in under your foodstamp-tier free medical service means lines. Lots and lots of lines.

Provide some evidence. I don't accept statements at face value.

Can't have a universal healthcare system with a nation of fat people and niggers. Our society promotes an apathetic lifestyle and celebrates being a victim. Universal healthcare with any sort of quality in this country would be unsustainable.

The tories are running it into the ground deliberately by subcontracting out work and cutting costs.

>have a working department in hospital
>tories don't like NHS
>stop giving them as much
>standards and quality falls
>hurr why are we even funding this it barely works

>Is that not what you do too?

no. I also got actual free college because I earned it with military service. all of the whiny liberal cunts are free to do the same but lack the balls to go through with it.

No one has actual free healthcare except people who paid for it with military service and don't live in a nanny state. not canada, not the uk, no you. you are literally constantly paying for it. forever.

>inb4 free at the point of service

that's not what free means

The problem with the health care system in the u.s. is that there are a bunch of niggers and mexicans taking out of the system but not putting in.

The way Obamacare is set-up is that you pay more if you make more and don't pay anything if you don't make anything

Then the niggers and spics use the emergency room as if it's their damn primary care doctor.

It should be illegal to charge you more or less for something depending on how much you make. When i order a pizza they don't ask how much i make and base the price of the pizza off of how much i make. The pizza will be the same price for a homeless guy and the same price for a muliti millionaire.

It should be illegal to charge people different prices for something depending on how much they make it should be illegal to ask how much you make when getting something such as insurance, just insure me and that is all you need to know.

One of the main reasons healthcare is so expensive is insurance (which isn't healthcare). Guess who passed a law forcing people to buy insurance (which isn't providing everyone with healthcare)? What has been the end result of the costs?

But we have to pay for shitty things like the ACA and medicaid? We're not a socialist country, but we have to pay massive income tax and social security? Okay. You know, I hate socialism, but we're a socialist country. If we're going to do this, we might as well do it well.

british denial

it's not the governments responsibility to ensure you're comfy when you get the sniffles. governments are for military protection and enforcing the rule of law. nothing more

>Almost every other industrialized nation in the world has universal healthcare
other industrialized nations don't have an army of niggers and spics though

universal healthcare will never work in america

Burger here. I'm all for a government provided free healthcare alternative alongside the current system. If we stopped giving free shit to wetbacks and israel, and stopped bombing the rest of the world, we'd have the money for it.

Others have to carry your ass through their own inflated premiums

and our obesity problem, and our opioid problem

America would be a socialist state of it was still white. Gj importing hordes of subhumans. You fucked it up for every human in America.

Why should I want universal healthcare if eurotrash politicians avoid it like the plague and fly out to the Mayo clinic in the US for treatments?

>I also got actual free college because I earned it with military service
Which is a good plan. Wish we had similar.
>except
No, no except. You still paid for it by working for the banks rather than contributing to your country, even if they give you goodboy points.

But yes, in normal circumstances health insurance is something you pay for even before you need it. Like regular insurance. Not like you can get insurance for covering you after you've already crashed your car.

so anything pertaining to actually maintaining society can fuck off?

No, not free healthcare. State healthcare. Everything has to be paid for and the citizens pay it.

The US problem isn't lack of socialised medicine, it's just overpriced. Jewry.

the left can't meme-- no idea why but it plays out to be true

In America you have a choice, if you are poor it sucks, but the middle class and rich don't have to pay for the poor. However ER/Hospitals wont turn anyone away and we are subsidized by them jacking up prices becuase of this, but it is hardly the reason why healthcare is so expensive (literally a mafia using lobbying power to make things fucked but still not socialist healthcare levels of fucked).

Secondly, nationalized healthcare forces people to sign up and pay for coverage they don't need. Why would I as a 21 year old male want insurance for pregnancy costs if I'm not married, or insurance for illnesses that only afflict elderly, etc... We save money that way as well.

Before all the regulations, barriers to entry, and big business squashing competition through legal means you could pretty much buy full coverage health insurance for about 100 bucks a year. And it should only be getting cheaper, but FDA and regulations see that it gets thousands of times more expensive.

You also don't have 1000 lb landwhales that everyone else in society has to subsidize if we hand out free healthcare.

what does rule of law mean in bongistan? why are all europeans such statist cuckolds?

>What’s your excuse for not wanting universal healthcare?
we're so unhealthy that no healthcare system on earth would do anything but bankrupt the state

Because in Burgerland it would be abused by:
>Niggers that kill each other every fucking day
>Illegal spics with no citizenship so they shouldn't have the right
>Fat fuck NEETs that would go to the hospital for even a flue shot
They need to make it more affordable for the middle class, not completely free for everyone

>and our obesity problem
Most obese people are niggers and spics
stateofobesity.org/disparities/

>and our opioid problem
Which was created by Jews who took advantage of the private system.
iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/oxycontin-how-purdue-pharma-helped-spark-opioid-epidemic/

I'll never understand american values. Like instead of developing social policy to cut reasons to do crime they rather hand out guns to paranoid lunatics.

My excuse :wanting the poor to die earlier so my kids have less competition.
Side goal : purge the communists by denial of care

I do. But my fellow Americans are complacent and misled retards.

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>has unlimited money supply
>central bank
>can print currency to extinction
>massive public sector

If your money supply is collective, you're communist

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Just to drive the point home how the state ruins everything it touches

>In 1958, per capita health expenditures were $134. This may seem astonishingly small, but it actually includes everything, inclusive of care paid for by government or private health insurers. A worker earning the average wage in 1958 ($1.98) would have had to work 118 hours—nearly 15 days--to cover this expense. By 2012, per capita health spending had climbed to $8,953. At the average wage, a typical worker would have to work 467 hours—about 58 days.

>understand american values
Wait for ZOG to fall and you take our jews and pay for israel and a $750 billion shekel military to fight for israel. you think international jewry is going to let you be when ZOG goes down?

>most obese people are niggers and spics

go read a book on basic statistics to see why you're wrong

>which was created by jews who took advantage of the private system

our opioid problem was created by low iq trash with no self-control

The left can't meme because in order to make an analogy there has to be an initial truth to your original point in order for anything to correspond to it. The left lives in a fantasy world, therefore they can't make accurate, or even sensible analogies. That's why they can't meme.

We are all debt based economies. When you can just print money and your population doesn't mind, theres business in creating problems - not solving them.

Americans are fat fucks who don’t take care of thier bodies. I ain’t paying for that.

why is your answer to every problem "more government"?

american values are individualism, self-sufficiency, and an inherent distrust of any and all governing bodies

If your commie ass stopped being dependant on America's military, and just funded your won, maybe we could take some money out of military and put it into some precious "Universal Healthcare"

Actually being poor gives you access to great insurance. Most states work with fed money to provide Medicaid for the lowest income brackets. Right now the middle class gets hit the hardest by insurance costs, it's pretty common for a family to net 60,000 a year and pay well over 10,000 just insurance before their high deductibles and co-pays. I am not sure what happened between 2000 and 2010 but our health insurance costs skyrocket.

Its not government control but government intervention. Plus the government doesnt own every company. Its a free market where anyone can start a business and succeed. That isn't possible in a communist nation. If you really think a socialist/capitalist system is communist then you need to Google what communism is

>Everything is not free.

Like all socialist and communist concepts, universal healthcare in theory is fantastic, in practice however, not so much.

We have the best healthcare on earth if you can afford it (or even if you're a broke nigger walking into an emergency room). Why would you want to wait in line for the McDonald's of healthcare when you could just work hard and get the best?

spics and nigs, especially spics.

All of that already happens, but your dead on, it needs an overhaul for middle class accessibility.

study the lymphatic system.
health care is masonic lingo for weaponized drugs.

>what is Medicare

Better not to comment on other countries when your knowledge of them comes from the guardian, the bbc and occupy democrats memes

I pay 400 a month for an amazing family plan, I can see a surgeon the next day if I need to and I get to pick my doctor

I dont have to pay $10 a gallon for gas and 20% sales tax AND half my income for shit "free" healthcare Id never use.

>go read a book on basic statistics to see why you're wrong
lol what? Are you attempting to say that because there are less blacks and latinos in the US there are technically more obese white people than either group? While that's true, the rate of obesity among blacks and latinos is much higher than for whites. Literally just under half of ALL blacks in the US are obese. You can't say anywhere near the same for whites.

>our opioid problem was created by low iq trash with no self-control
Our opioid problem was created by Jewish pharmaceutical companies who incentivized trusted medical professionals to mislead their patients into taking large doses of an extremely addictive drug for relatively minor ailments.

Really? Because in practice it's shown as much more effective in nearly all European countries than our healthcare is in America.
We have artificially inflated costs precisely because of our current system.

>Almost every other industrialized nation in the world has universal healthcare.
>Therefore it is necessary to import third world immigrants to care for promises made
>Imports more immigrants to pay for new promises made to imported immigrants
>Le 56% Face in 3 generations
>Country now unable to make new promises
>America

You end up paying for the enemy's well being, ie non-whites

Niggers. Niggers need to be banned from hospitals before universal healthcare is feasible.

Universal healthcare would be a better system if our country wasn't so full of niggers.

Take off your flag.

330 million ppl. Name any other developed country with that size population and that also has uni health care.

>you can’t

>I'll never understand American values
>Why don't they want a monarchy and live as serfs?
>Europeans have been doing it for centuries and it works just fine for them!

>american values are individualism
In the classical sense of the word, meaning that you succeed or fail according to merit rather than what family you're born into. It doesn't mean, as libertarians tend to think, that we believe everyone should be totally divorced from their communities, and that, in fact, communities don't even exist.

>self-sufficiency
Sure.

>and an inherent distrust of any and all governing bodies
No.

Socialized medicine will never work in a country full of blacks and browns

this so fucking much

This meme proves millennials were raised to be perpetually 5 years old.

>this is how it works in canada...
>income based payments ftl

>Government intervention is "free market"
Burger education strikes again.

China is an openly communist nation yet anyone can start a business there. If the government depends on the currency along with everyone else - the nation is centrally controlled and decisions that affect currency affect every individual - the central bank. That's communism.

Also, debt is not "capital".

FPBP. Obama was trying to entrench socialist elements into our system. If Hilary had won she would have been the nail in the coffin.

>pays for medical insurance for medical services they likely will only need a few times if they have no chronic conditions
>then pays an additional tax for medical services they likely will only need a few time if they have no chronic conditions
>tax 10% of $60k year income for 50 years means paying $300k over your working career for possibly using a 10th of it if major injuries happen
>typical premium for average single coverage insurance is $321, so $192,600 over duration of working life.
>pays $492,600 over working life for medical expenses that they didn’t actually need
>that’s a house
Liberals are incredibly retarded

The US is filled with people looking for hand outs and free everything. So like all welfare and government aid programs, they should be scrapped or heavily, HEAVILY cracked down on. Don't let welfare scammers get by. I'd rather pay a new 3 letter agency to enforce the new rules than have a bunch of toothless methhead rednecks, gibsmedats niggers, and Mexicans with 7+ kids taking the money. Force people to have an incentive to work.

Obamacare was doomed to fail from the start. Everyone knew it. There was no way a socialized healthcare system was ever going to succeed. Especially when you have way more people taking out of the system than paying in.
This user has the idea. Look at Sweden. They had their share of problems and shortcomings in the past sure. But their system worked relatively well. Crime rate was low (even though everyone has guns, go figure!) and the standard of living was OK. Then the poor, unfortunate, "refugees" came in.

Now look at Sweden

30 million niggers.

test

I'll bite

Private healthcare has worked for years. Pay to play. I don't want to pay for some white trash or niggers to get their insulin so they can continue to be obese leaches.

Hospitals should be unburdened from indigent care. If they don't have insurance, or have no possible way to pay in their lives, then let them die. Current regulations have led to the current prices of healthcare.

When you take an ambulance it costs upwards 500$ even without medication. Simply because your paying for the four other calls they got about niggers getting migraine headaches that won't pay. Same thing with hospital visits, your stitched up thumb paid for four niggers that have bad gas and headaches.

Let them die and watch prices plummet.

>most obese people are niggers
>there are technically more obese white people
>LMAO

make up your mind

>Our opioid problem was created by Jewish pharmaceutical companies who incentivized trusted medical professionals to mislead their patients into taking large doses of an extremely addictive drug for relatively minor ailments.

anyone who takes prescription drugs gets no sympathy from me. it's not the jews fault that you are a weak-willed faggot. that one's on you

>and an inherent distrust of any and all governing bodies
>No.

yes

Because it's incredibly ineffective and expensive, not to mention it is an infringement on individual freedom while it grants the government even more power.

fpbp

He said there's a free market in the U.S. as in anyone can start a company, not that government intervention is free market you inbred paki.

We have to many poorfag who would abuse it

get the fuck out of here commie scum. youre worthless

2 words... Tax burden.