/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL
This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off.
>LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM OR LAWLESS CHAOS. /lrg/ IS THE A STAND AGAINST THE LEFT-LIBERTARIAN AND ANTI-MORAL LIBERTARIAN MENACE, DON'T COME HERE PREACHING THAT GARBAGE AND DONT ASSUME WE SUPPORT THOSE LOSERS.
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>Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard)
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>For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard)
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>Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - riosmauricio.com
>Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads
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The Truth About Libertarianism | Immigration and Open Borders (Cantwell)
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Libertarianism's Ultimate Logical Conclusion (Cantwell)
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Do You Hate the State? (Rothbard, read by Cantwell) 10 minutes
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What Must Be Done [to create a libertarian revolution]
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Realistic Libertarianism as Right-Libertarianism
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Libertarianism and the "Alt-Right"
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Would You Trust This Corporation?
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Agorist here. Prove me wrong /lrg/
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Anarcho-faggots, get the fuck out.
Make an argument friend, throwing videos and books at each other gets us nowhere. Have you read and watched everything linked so far by us?
Friendly reminder that the good ol' US of A would have been ancap if it were a more known idea.
Stop advocating for the rape of your own people
You dipshit. All the Founding Fathers believed in government.
How would that have worked out back in 1776?
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Bumping for my niggas.
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Unfortunately, Human nature is in opposition to ancapism. Read Thomas Hobbes.
Let's start with the core tenets:
- A vanguard party is Leninist nonsense.
- Political activity is intrinsically unlibertarian
- The black market is the "real" vanguard of the libertarian movement and will ultimately be what undoes our enemy, the state.
The USA is the land in which i was born, in which my grandfather was born, in which his grandfather was born and so on. We fought the tyrants off during the Revolution, lets make sure they never come back. Good shit /lrg/
They only believed the state was a necessary evil since they could not conceive of how to arrange society without it. Government is distinct from the state.
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- What?
- Trying to convince people to be libertarian/pushing to get as close to libertarianism as possible is unlibertarian?
- I can agree here, though I'd also say action taken against our aggressors is as libertarian as action to separate from our aggressors
So sell stuff without telling the government.
fact is we live under a political system. If we ever wish to find ourselves living in a libertarian order we better start paying some damn attention and influencing political activity.
How bout you try making arguments yourself?
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>Taxation is rape
>Being this much of a libfag
You liberals are cancer.
No, it's not. There is no distinction between the two.
>A vanguard party is Leninist nonsense.
Leninism is vastly more popular than libertarianism is. I think we can afford to learn a thing or two from his playbook.
>Political activity is intrinsically unlibertarian
Libertarianism is a political ideology. Explain to me how taking action to secure your freedom is unlibertarian.
>The black market is the "real" vanguard of the libertarian movement and will ultimately be what undoes our enemy, the state.
K, let us know when your agora corners the automobile and computer markets.
What I mean by political activity is falling for the democracy meme, which is a tool wielded by the state, in conjunction with capital, to create the illusion of popular control. What I mean by Leninist nonsense is that as long as the Libertarian party wields the power of orthodoxy, it cannot be considered a truly libertarian organization.
Government are the services the state controls a monopoly on, as well as aggression
It's not specifically taxation Im talking about, but the prevention of white families and white individuals from achieving what they can through their own will and means.
>In 1802 when Thomas Jefferson took office he eliminated all direct taxation on US citizens. Tax free America. This was Jefferson’s vision.
Thomas Jefferson, the greatest liberal and founding father of our great nation.
Power of orthodoxy?
I agree we should not be seduced by democracy, but I dont think that trying to better our situation through what tools we do have while working towards creating a genuine libertarian reality is a bad idea.
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Saving, thank you
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That's actually the second, this is the first
You gay boi
Oh my, I goofed.
Political parties are artifacts of a statist system and fighting the state along these lines is impossible. The only meaningful tool in an anarchist framework is direct action, and the most meaningful direct action is undermining the tax regime for fun and profit.
It's not about trying to directly target the state - it's about using the public platform of political parties to draw attention to our ways of thinking. Most people dont deeply consider libertarianism or anarcho-capitalism, many more do keep some tabs on political parties. More state will not fix the state of course, but using the state's tools against itself to grow our numbers is only good.
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I think to some extent this position is fair, but I will always consider the libertarians who refuse to acknowledge or participate in the democratic process to be our "brahmin caste", and I've redpilled a lot of otherwise unreachable statecucks towards our position by virtue of being a vocal non-voter.
It's quite easy to deflect someone's argument when they are shilling for one candidate or another.
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You should be investing time on yourself instead of trying to save socialists.
I'm actually quite fond of Konkin's antics deprogramming black bloc types from their marxoid handlers simply by asking them what an anarchist would do.
It is a practical imperative that black flags across the political spectrum are reminded that marxoids will always betray and exploit them.
Quit licking corporate boot.
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Quit being a fucking commie.
Quit using terms you don't understand the definition of.
Fuck you, you economically illiterate piece of shit.
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Heil Hoppe
>quit licking corporate boot
>fascism's second name is "corporatism"
This is a high level shitpost.
>interest free loans
Way to prove my point.
>mixed markets
LE ENLIGHTENED ALT CENTRIST
>corporatism is bad
>is corporatist
>Socialism
>Economic prosperity
Lel in your dreams tard
Hey guys! Can I be libertarian?
I’m only an authoritarian because I want to deport all illegal immigrants btw
Methinks you need to go further right.
Here's some reading material. I think you'd enjoy Hoppe's anti-democratic works most, but by all means, start with whatever piques your interest.
I’m very fiscally conservative, however I don’t believe that companies will effectively regulate their own pollution.
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Perhaps so, but remember: pollution is a form of property damage, just like theft, assault, rape, murder, etc. A rigid code of law and an effective court system are needed, not government meddling. At least, I should say, not any more meddling than would be found in the investigation of a murder (murder isn't "regulated", it's prohibited and punished).
Reminder that Objectivism is our strongest tool. "Libertarian" is the umbrella technical classifier under which we fall, but LibertarianISM is too incomplete to deserve the '-ism'. Libertarianism is incomplete Objectivism; Objectivism without the epistemology.
Treating pollution like a civil suit will be a HUGE hassle that will effect many people. It would also be a PR nightmare for capitalism. Why not just have a little bit of environmental regulations?
This is how pollution was handled up until the polluters (!!!) made Nixon create the EPA in 1972.
The old system worked just fine.
>Treating pollution like a civil suit will be a HUGE hassle that will effect many people.
If it is a hassle to be virtuous, is that a good enough reason to abandon virtue?
>It would also be a PR nightmare for capitalism.
Not that I'm interested in pandering to lefties, but I'm pretty sure one of the big objections a lot of anti-capitalists have is how destructive the free enterprise is to the environment. If you start enforcing property rights, as was done in early industrial America, you'll end up with less pollution and less anti-capitalist ammo.
>Why not just have a little bit of environmental regulations?
Regulation is a lazy man's response to doing what is right. Indeed, one might say:
>Treating murder like a civil suit will be a HUGE hassle. Why not just have a little bit of gun regulations?
>Treating rape like a civil suit will be a HUGE hassle. Why not just have a little bit of sex regulations?
>Treating theft like a civil suit will be a HUGE hassle. Why not just install some surveillance?
I acknowledge that we both have the same objection to pollution, so I don't mean to attack you here. I just believe that righteous ends must be pursued with consistently righteous means.