As someone who loosely identifies as libertarian I have to ask, why do people say libertarians are open boarders...

As someone who loosely identifies as libertarian I have to ask, why do people say libertarians are open boarders? To me the idea of immigration and border security falls under the larger issue of national security which is one area where the federal government is needed.

Why are you opposed to individuals crossing into a collective that doesn't exist?

Because I don’t want neighbors that steal all of my shit

Read some Hoppe
Borders were actually basically "open" for almost all of human history. When you allow people to associate with one another on a purely voluntary basis they mostly stick to their own, to the point that cultural homogeneity comes naturally
Right now there's an active and ongoing effort to FORCE different ethnicities to live and work together. Read any mainstream progressive publication, they're absolutely fully open about this

>not answering the question
good job

> national security

Is an a collective notion.
An individualists wouldn't care.

You seem to have libertarians and AnCaps confused

Your both individualists who value individual freedom over collective freedom.

Why don't you support the individual crossing a border and instead a collective institution like the government?

The libertarian attitude of “as long as you don’t harm others, everything is totally fine” leads to enormous degeneracy in society. After all, you don’t have to participate in the degenerate behavior and therefore no one else does either.

Of course, what actually happens is people form into collectives and crush the invidiuals.

The best form of libertarianism is within a collective group identity. Kind of like how America used to be. Everyone was American but within that framework they could be inviduals and pursue their own life, liberty, and happiness.

Libertarians concede that a minimal amount of government is needed (just not for the roads) and national security is universally recognized as the biggest reason to need government.

AnCap you don’t need a government because I can just use my army of child sex slaves to carry out my security.