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Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

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gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
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youtube.com/watch?v=REhsVkNyUsE
youtu.be/J78V6mXhyTE
macs.hw.ac.uk/~greg/publications/ccm.IJUC07.pdf
youtube.com/watch?v=ZsTrnC05M6M
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

VODKA VOR!

SAGE

Wrong website faggot.

Where is da fud :DD?

nice tits, if i turn commie will i get to titty fuck her?

inb4 gommunism

no tits in communism. Big part of tits is fat, and you wont have that under communism

but she has big tits

Only Gommunism for you!

BENIS ONLY!

Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

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Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

Since its communism do we each get a turn with them tits or no?

She must be commisar or something, then. Unless you are high ranking party member, forget about her.

Try and sell me Communism to fascists and Nazis.

What does it have in common?
You're going to have to do better than the sceptics and ANTIFA at selling me Communism.

The pic is a paradox. Her breasts tell abundance but the flag means hunger.

Thnks gomrade !

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:DDDDDDDDD

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Keep calm comrades her breasts have milk for all of us, just have to stand in the milk lines.

Pravda best schoolship

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XD Gud Bost Gomrad

She's from Girls und Panzer. She's actually a Jap just larping as a soviet, hence the tits

>muh hundred billion trillion

Exactly what I was thinking user.

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Marxists give an economic definition of the bourgeoisie only to hide their belonging to it. At best they're bourgeois, at worst they serve for some of them the capitalists. Marx was controlled opposition charged to eliminate the aristocraty and the monarchy in favor of the capitalists, while diverting the proletariat by plotting them against the bourgeoisie (which didn't own the factories at that time : only the rich industrialists and bankers did); mocking and dismissing the russian socialists who threatened to engage in a revolution. Marx only did one thing when we look closely : divide and divert.

Before his victory the communist zealot earns some respect ; he's nothing more than a busy bourgeois after.

The only thing Marx did was to enrol at the service of proletariat the accusations expressed against the bourgeoisie by the reactionnary and aristocratic writers.

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look at tits. big.

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Epic meme XDDD

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Communism is for LOSERS

Is that the target?

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In you go, kike!

youtube.com/watch?v=REhsVkNyUsE

gb2 /r/le_Dolan

Hahaha got a warning for poor content contribution last time i did Gommunism®
oh you mods...

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Count me in

We will literally throw you out of a helicopter.

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Every marxist have in their pocket two marxisms : the current one he advocates, and the esoteric one through which he refutes the criticism made for the first.

There is also a third marxism : the one that, with contempt and under the name of "vulgar marxism", the marxist gives to his interlocutor.

Life is good here in Finland. You should try this welfare state thing too.

LITERAL COMMUNISM

youtu.be/J78V6mXhyTE

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Anyone speaking against communism is a jewish puppet, working hard to allow few zionists to control literally all production on Earth. Shill harder for Israel, cunts.

Marx was a Jew, half the Soviet Government was Jewish, try harder kike.

Communism kills beauty

>"From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
Ok I'll bite, what prevents me from pretending my ability is less than it is so I have to work less for the same benefit?

Yes goy communism is litereal genocide. You shouldnt protest or question the richs decisions and should work harder and harder whil being content whit less and less stuff. The rich are just ordinary people who got their money throught hard work and there is a chance that you might become rich aswell! So forget about the billions of people living in poverty and focus on that slim chance of one person becoming rich.

Also gommunism killed 100 billion people and people that want equality for all are litereal devil worshipers.

If I wanted right now, I could just tell Kela that I don't want to work and I would get money for rent and food. They legally aren't allowed to stop paying me even if I just ignore all their attempts to make me do something else. I literally could do nothing but neet all day and get paid.
Turns out most people enjoy work.

>SOME PEOPLE HAVE MORE THAN YOU!!! DOESN'T THAT MAKE YOU MAD!? COME ON LETS KILL EM, WE CAN ALL BE EQUALLY POOR!

Its hilarious when Naz-Bols call themselves Fascist, when they deny natural things like hierarchy for some retarded notions of "equality"

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I dont call myself a fascist and i do understand that hierarchies exist, but as a communist i want to destroy that pyramid and make everyone be equal.

Also those "some" people make up 1% of the population but have more wealth that the other 50%. Are you saying 1 person got that money by workig harder than the other 5 billion people?

You must either hate the human race or be rich if you oppose a ideology that literealy only wants all humans to live in peace and equality. But i guess you are just a nazi larping cuck posting "heli rides" on the net.

that irony when the capitalists have their perfect bubble. lol

Paul Cockshott proved that the economic calculation problem is not real:

macs.hw.ac.uk/~greg/publications/ccm.IJUC07.pdf

questioned Murphy’s requirement that planning requires pre-knowledge
of all possible prices,

argued that the domain of prices to which planning is applied is in prin-
ciple finite rather than infinite and that thus Cantor’s arguments are
inapplicable, or at worst prices are countable, and Cantor’s arguments
are applicable but irrelevant because there is no concievable require-
ment that this domain be closed under diagonalisation,

argued that planning over finite prices is tractable,

shown that diagonalisation is not applicable to prices or commodities,
and

discussed how infinite structures of predominantly zero values may be
given finite representations.
In conclusion we have shown that Murphy’s arguments are ill founded.
The computational feasibility of economic planning at a detailed level is an
issue that must be investigated in its own right, and cannot be settled by appeal
to Cantor. We have presented specific arguments that suggest that detailed
planning is indeed feasible.

shush your withered limbs kids show me them rolls.

you can have your gas chambers as long as you test them out first. I incist.

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A communist society would free individuals from long working hours by first automating production to an extent that the average length of the working day is reduced and second by eliminating the exploitation inherent in the division between workers and owners. A communist system would thus free individuals from alienation in the sense of having one's life structured around survival (making a wage or salary in a capitalist system), which Marx referred to as a transition from the "realm of necessity" to the "realm of freedom." As a result, a communist society is envisioned as being composed of an intellectually-inclined population with both the time and resources to pursue its creative hobbies and genuine interests, and to contribute to creative social wealth in this manner. Karl Marx considered "true richness" to be the amount of time one has at his or her disposal to pursue one's creative passions. Marx's notion of communism is in this way radically individualistic.

Hey kids, remember the time when communism worked?

You will never be able to make everyone equal, some people are naturally smarter, stronger, and faster. The superior will always have a advantage over the inferior, the only way to circumvent this is to micromanage everyone s lives with a giant vanguardist state, a state that many of your "comrades" refuse to have anything to do with. This state "the USSR" still had its elites though, communist party members could get cars and high quality meats, while the proletarians made due with old bread and walking, but even the 1% of the soviet society was poor compared to the poorest 30% of our society.

Its not working harder, but smarter. Who should be payed more, a retarded nigger woman who hauls 20 pounds of groceries across 20 miles of land in her backpack, our a German man who invested in a truck, and moves thousands of pounds of groceries to the market. The German produces infinitely more for his employer far faster, but works far less than the nigger.

Equality is a retarded concept, unfeasible in real life, and a product of modernism. The only people who hate the human species are commies and liberals who try to stunt its growth by bringing the best members of it down to the level of its worse. Also its funny when commies accuse others of larping.

>Turns out most people enjoy work
Wrong, most people work because if they don't, they'll starve.

Worked smarter, not harder.

This ideology has killed 100 million people plus yet you claim it is for peace? This ideology has caused more people to live in a constant state of hunger and famine than any other. I guess when you say equality you mean everyone is equally hungry? Communism has killed ten times the amount of humans than Nazism did. Government has rarely been able to run anything yet you'd like to give them everything? The only larping cuck is you.

And yes, you do deserve a heli ride.

It's fake, it's corrupt, and everyone in it is a cuck

Is this because you are Brazilian or is there some other reason for your illiteracy?

Need food plz dinnertime is near

What would communists do if they can't post lies as facts?

>Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.

Here is you and your family's daily allotment of protein rich sustenance made from the crushed corpses of insects...very nutritious. Thank you for catching those fish, it will make an honorable tribute to the greater good of your country. You may retain 1 fish of the 20 you caught and the other 9 will be evenly distributed to your countrymen. The other 10 will be delivered to our fearless leader. Now that you have been relieved of the burden of your fish and received the delicious and nutritious sustenance from the state you have plenty of free time to either read books of indoctrination, watch state run television, or stare at the wall. Whoops, the honorable and all knowing state (owned of course by the "people") have deemed reading unneeded and useless in our new utopia. So you may stare at the wall or watch state run television where we will feed you propaganda 24/7 to make sure you love your government...after all it is YOU, the people, who own this. While you and your family starves, rest assured that your chosen government owned by you, the people, are working very hard to end this famine and disease. You love this utopia that you, the people, have created, dont you? Don't mind your neighbors disappearing in the night, wrong think is against the one true god Leader - Your Stalin like figure - and must be snuffed out lest it bring this perfect utopia crashing down. Thank you for your service comrade and keep production high, there must be enough food to go around. And always remember, your 4 hours of free time per day is the "true richness" the wise one, Karl Marx, spoke of. This is utopia. This is perfection. By the way, here is the revisions to god Marx's history. Gone are the sacrileges wrote down by the slanderers that said he was lazy and never owned a job and lived off his rich friend. In its place is the truth, set down by the god leader, that speaks of the hard wok Marx did.

Based Finland

Socialism gives the state absolute power. Power to regulate goods and services. Power to kill entrepreneurship. Power to kill competition. It forces equality by killing opportunity. Everyone is equal. Just like prisoners are.

Socialism gives the state power to regulate. The stronger your regulator is the less freedom you have. Socialism and freedom can not exist together. They are direct opposites.

Laissez-faire is also bad because it gives business absolute power. A capitalist society with light regulation is ideal. Worker rights are a good thing after all.

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Fancy way of saying "moving the goalposts" tbqh lad

She's not a jap but she's not a European Russian

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And why is giving bussiness' absolute power a bad thing if it's voluntary? Learn the fundamental difference between productive power and coercive power.
LfCap ie Minarchism ie Objectivism is 1:1 to the actual nature of reality and the human condition.

Tldr: saying "Laissez Faire is also bad" is just Mixed Economy cuck speak.

youtube.com/watch?v=ZsTrnC05M6M

How does communism force me to redistribute what I produce? How does communism prevent me from starting a capitalist enterprise?

>Wars are Capitalism because I say so
Yawn. What else you got commie?

>Literally every single person that dies is capitalism's fault, there would be no wars and famine if gommuis...

Oh wait

Objectivism is subjective. Literally Orwellian.

Leave Nonna out of this you faggot

>Here is you and your family's daily allotment of protein rich sustenance made from the crushed corpses of insects
Maybe you should watch news a little, soon you will be paying for the privilege of eating insects. But hey, you'll have choice of whatever they are fried in lard or sugar, truly capitalism is infallible.

I came in only to enjoy this.

keep dreaming kike
every last commy deserves the rope.

I only come into these threads to make sure that this gets posted

gud job gomr8

if you want to come to a more productive thread, consider this:

Well in communism as Sup Forums understands it, the moment you lift a twig off a floor, 100 jackbooted thugs will charge in, beat you up and take your twig.