Bleach

Would the they have defeated Gerard in the end? Also SR and Bleach in general discussion

Askin > Quilge > the rest.

I think they'd need Mayuri and/or Urahara's lolscience to defeat Gerard. The three who fought him knew they were only making him stronger and still wouldn't stop, retards.

Daily reminder that this is canon

Yes because there is still the fact that:

A. Ichibie could have used BLACK on him and made him nothing.

B. Weaken Gerald so much that Soi Fon can use her Suzumibatchi on Gerald's Hearts. If what Aizen said is true, then all they need to do is weaken Gerald over and over again until Soi Fon has a bigger spiritual pressure

I thought Gerald was getting weaker with every iteration.

Completely forgot about Ichibei. The fuck was that nigga doing after they left him?

Gathering his strength. He was still weakened at the time. But like I said, he would eventually joined the fight and used BLACK on Gerald.

Askin is unironically my favorite character in the history of anime and manga.
I wish we had much more of him.
Hell, he would work better as a standalone anatagonist instead of Yhwach's servant (he literally said he had no reason following Yhwach other that satisfying his own interest).

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I still can't believe how bad that art is.

>all these nostalgic great openings
>all the memories
>tfw it all went down so badly

It's

It's like I was speeding on a rocket in space, and then it abandoned me, leaving me drifting in space on it's momentum

Forever

Can someone succinctly explain why Askin is so popular on Sup Forums ?

You all need to read again. Gerard was literally [The Heart]. No amount of asspulls could stop him he's invincible.

Even Pernida lost only by killing himself after being baited by Mayuri. God parts are made of the stuff that gave Shinegami their powers in the first place.

Why must it be over, Sup Forums?

Why?

Because he is a very unorthodox villain, especially for a shonen series. There is nothing edgy or tryhard about him, he is gentle and respectful without being humble.
He has a pretty complex personality for a minor henchman. He doesn't have a bullshit or tragic backstory. His main motivation was his interest to see the new world made by Yhwach, which is pretty understandable and realistic goal.
He never lost his composure, even on the verge of death he was himself and didn't lose his cool. He was also very effective antagonist, bringing down a lot of improtant characters - Yoruichi, Urahara, Grimmjaw, he even defeated Ichigo once.
His ability was also pretty complex and interesting without being outright broken or hax.

>No amount of asspulls could stop him he's invincible.

Except for the above. Just because Gerald had The Heart, doesn't mean he could have been beaten.

Because he's a JoJo villain except in Bleach.

>Defeating The Heart

Might as well wrestle with the wind

>Implying the image is the same as Gerald

Now you are off your rocker.

>without being outright broken or hax.
You lost me at that part

>without being outright broken or hax.
His poison bullshit was broken as fuck what are you on about

So I lost you at the very last sentence? Pretty good I'd say.
Anyway, compared to shit like The Miracle of Gerard or The Vision of Gremmy, Askin was pretty tame.

>Anyway, compared to shit like The Miracle of Gerard or The Vision of Gremmy

That's not really a good comparison. Also technically those guys don't have any way to counter Askin.

Well Gerard can probably shrug it off like he shrugged Hitsugaya's ice tho.

>Gremmy
>I imagine that I'm immune to your poison power!
>it happens

>Gerard
>IT JUST WORKS LOL
>is reborn in more powerful form

I've been off Sup Forums for a couple of years.
Can we actually discuss Bleach again without every thread being spammed to death? This is truly the memeverse.

>I adjust my poison faster than you can imagine an immunity to it


>IT JUST WORKS LOL
Accurate.

Any thread starting with Askin somehow magically wards the shippers away. Don't ask me why.

Not only that, but Naruto too.

Checked.

Then I like this Askin guy.
Dropped Bleach after the final form Aizen debacle, so he doesn't ring a bell.

The creepy Unohana looks cool enough to pick it up again and finish it.

Because the fanboys of the 2000's don't exist anymore so there's no reason to fear an infestation by them if we post about Naruto or Bleach I presume?
The spam seemed pointless back in those days already, but at least that might have been the reason.

Imagine someone who can get Urahara this serious

>emperor Yhwach
>elite four of quincies - Haschwalth, Pernida, Askin and Gremmy
>sternritters - As Nodt, Bambietta, Bazz-B, Geselle, Mask de Masculine, BG-9, Robert, Gerard and Lillie (both with completely different powers)
>the rest of sternritters don't exist or are threated like soldatz and killed off quickly
Have I fixed the arc?

You forgot
>Captains finally job quickly and stay dead like they should have in the FK arc

Replace them by Ishiin, Ryuken, squad 0 not jobbing off panel, Urahara, Tessai and Yoruichi.
Give Shinji a chance to shine before he dies.

Only through asspull. Gerard ability was never explained better than "he can evolve over everything", so logic dictates he would eventually defeat everyone. Kubo didn't write his power with a solution in mind.

What's with quincies being so much more powerful than the 1000s years old shinigami? No zanpakutou is broken like the quincies' stern hitlers were.

That would've worked considerably better. I liked a bunch of the lesser Sternritter, but they would've worked better as juts regular soldiers. And Quilge needs to still be one to demonstrate Sternitter powers like he did.

>Yhwach and his quincies don't exist
>The last arc is a Gotei/RR civil war
FTFY

Gerard was only as strong as he was because he was a piece of the Soul King. Most of the Sternritter powers were far weaker than him. Askin was almost a complete abnormality among the regular Quincies.

Quincies were foreshadowed since volume 3. It was gonna happen but they should have been actual archers, not grossly overpowered angels.

>Bleach but all characters are shotas
Is it better now?

The "foreshadowing" was very bare. The last arc had practically nothing in common with it. And there were much more important things to settle than Quincies, like why the fuck did Ichigo become the lapdog of spirit SS

>they should have been actual archers
This. Ishida goes out of his way to show that the true weapons of Quincies are their bows and arrows. He even gets a "sword" that turns out to just be a stronger arrow in Hueco Mundo. If they could've kept this and just given them minor powers that didn't utilize the bows, then they would've been more reasonable.

Quincies were bound to show up and people were ready for it. They were the perfect catalyst for a massive war with the Royal Realm itself. Making Ichigo a Quincy was also the perfect way to make him question his loyalties.

Blame Kubo for making everything so inane in the end.

Because they literally had a piece of "hitler jesus" soul in them. It' akin to going trough SK realm rehab programme.
And many of these powers only looked strong.

>And many of these powers only looked strong.
No they were strong and the Captains should have gotten curbstomped.

But Mayuri Sue is Kubo's self insert for some reason and Byakuya had the biggest fanbase.

Ichigo never really questioned his loyalties though. He was firmly tied to his friends the whole time. It would've been more interesting had he considered switching sides though.

Ichibei's powers would've been useless. It's more or less the same as Hitsugaya's asspull except it gives you any power instead of stripping it away. It didn't hurt Yhwach at all and that was before he opened his eyes. He survived the gay ice attack just fine, and he keeps getting stronger each time, which means he would've developed immunity to it eventually.

Unless Mayuri asspulls Yhwach's absorption powers, nothing is going to defeat Gerard.

Yumichika if he had a Bankai could have done something I think. Gerard was virtually made out of energy by that point, and Yumichika's Shikai would absorb power.

That or Mayuri has an energy absorption device.

>Ichigo never really questioned his loyalties though.
That's the problem

>Would the they have defeated Gerard in the end?
Not without a power sapping thing like Yhwach used.

>Only saw Kirinji's shikai and Ichibei's shikai/bankai

>Both fights they were countered with Rock > Paper > Scissor bullshit.

Nimaya's atomic sharp sword was cool but the Royal Guard were so fucking underutilized, it fucking baffles me.

God damn it, Kubo. This could have been great.

You should have given him the ideas on time man. The guy lurked Sup Forums at some point.

Too bad he choose not to filter LoN and Lab member.

How is that a problem? Fullbringer arc proved that it would take a lot more for Ichigo to betray Soul Society than words, and the fact they each gave him part of their own power means they earned his trust. Ichigo joining the Quincy for any reason would have been entirely out of character; Uryu's motivation was understandeable but Ichigo isn't smart enough to feign loyalty.

>it would take a lot more for Ichigo to betray Soul Society than words
How about his own mother

Ichigo Should have gone full hollow and become some sort of third party madman soon after the soul society arc. In fact, I used to be convinced that would happen at some point.
Still better than being an Ichigo-Rukia shipper..

Everytime I remember Bleach I get so fucking mad that I got such little closure on so many plot points holy shit I am frustrated fuck you Kubo

I think kubo wrote himself into a corner with the sternritters which is why he had so many of them die via ywhach reclaiming the powers.

It was stupid because they were super loyal to ywhach. There was no reason to take their powers back even if he thought he was omnipotent they could have been his test for bullshit powers like ichigo's new bankai.

Blame the Shonen Jump board that kept meddling and wouldn't let the poor man do his thing.

Daily reminder Rukia is most likely fucking Ichigo behind that cuck's ass.

Or maybe Kira could have made him unable to move without damaging him, thus incapacitating him without dealing with "lol powerup" every 10 seconds.

What are you talking about? Most of those Sternritter died from the Soul Reapers:

>Hashwalth: death by Juha Bach

>Pernida: killed by poison by Nemu and Mayuri

>Asken Naak Le Varr: Died from Urahara and Grimmjow

>Bambeitta: taken down by Komamura and killed by GiGi.

>As Nodt: Killed by Rukia

>Lillioto: Killed by Juha Bach

>Bazz-B: Killed by Hashwalth

>Cang-Du: Killed by Haschwalth after dying once to Toshiro

>Opie: killed by Grimmjow

>BG9: killed by Haschwalth after dying once to Soi Fon

>PePe: dies by Lilllioto's power after beaten down by Mayrui using Kensei and Rose zombies

>Gerald: Death by Juha Bach

>Robert: Death by Juha Bach

>Discroll: blasted by Yamamoto

>Meninas: was defeated, but didn't die

>Bernice: killed by Kenpachi

>Jerome: killed by Kenpachi

>Mask De Masculine: killed by Renji

>Candice: defeated by not killed

>NaNaNa NajaCoop: killed by Bazz-B

>Gremmy: Killed by Kenpachi (over-imagining his strength)

>Naiozomi: killed by Senjumaru (Zero Squad

>Lillie: killed by Juha Bach

>Loyd Loyd: Killed by Kenpachi
>Royd Loyd: Killed by Yamamoto

>GiGi: killed by Juha Bach

So in total 5 deaths from the Sternritter were from Juha Bach. (technically 6 with Royd Loyd, but Yamamoto was what killed him in the first place)

Then 3 were killed by Haschwalth

And the rest were killed by Soul Reapers.

I still have some hope for fucking Pierrot (I know it's stupid) to make anime "fillers" explaining/showing all that they omitted. And maybe even change it to the original vision of Kubo where they can.

Ah I believe Kira already has his role in finishing off Lile. Assuming that Kira got his Bankai as Kubo once talked, I guess it might have been like a blackhole which would be the ultimate counter to Lile's light form.

The art designer said that Studio Perriot would be working on Bleach with a revival in mind.

I doubt they will change the final chapter though. They will most likely adapt the novels as OVAs though.

His mother would never approve if Ichigo started killing Shinigami. She married one.

I don't believe they would dare to change finale, if they did they would literally deny themselves free cash with OVAs as you said.
But there are other thing they can change. For example Ichigo and his friends. The last thing we see of them is getting the tickets and warning to better fuck off from Ichigo.

>bleach sequel
>50 ep canon /50 ep filler

Bravo Pierrot, maybe even the bounts and fodder hollow make a comeback and fight the quincy because why the fuck not.

Hey, remember how fullbringers were gonna be 3rd power in the fight? Yeah, Kubo also didn't

>Meninas: was defeated, but didn't die
The Power chick that got PePe'd? It's pretty fucking implied she was eaten by Liollioto

No, Liollioto didn't eat Meninas. She was beaten and knocked out.

We didn't see her death, so it doesn't count (what you said that is)

He is popular everywhere. Except Japan. There he is just mid-range in terms of popularity with Giselle being no.1.

Gerard and Lille's power are import for the Soul King though and his connection to Aizen. Gerard was basically the Hogyoku and Lille had a very similar moveset to Deicide Aizen.

>Asken Naak Le Varr: Died from Urahara and Grimmjow

Didn't Nel say that she sensed his Reiatsu. He was still talking after Grimmjow ripped his heart.

>BG9: killed by Haschwalth after dying once to Soi Fon

Was never killed. You can see that there were more light during the Auswahlen than Sternritter left. He could be killed by that though. But Narita will probably bring him and either Cang Du or Robert back anyway.

>Lillie: killed by Juha Bach

Never happened though. We never found out what happened to Lille. And the Auswahlen couldn't even kill NaNaNa.

>GiGi: killed by Juha Bach

Would agree if it wasn't zombie girl. I wouldn't be surprised if the novels revealed that the three traitor Quincy and Bambietta are still around,

No, She said she sensed 4 reiastu. That was Yoruichi, Yushiro, Urahara, and Grimmjow. Asken was already dying.

No, BG9 was being cut down by by Haschwalth. Remember that Haschwalth was brought back to execute Cang Du and BG9.

Lillie was killed by Juha Bach. He said himself that he aborbed the rest of the Quincy that were still alive that he hadn't before hand.

Except GiGi was still seen as dead.

>Except GiGi was still seen as dead.
i mean she got stabbed in the heart and she lived that was more convincing than blood around her

u ask me to check, checkd.

>No, She said she sensed 4 reiastu. That was Yoruichi, Yushiro, Urahara, and Grimmjow. Asken was already dying.

Except Yushiro was never inside the Giftball. He was on the middle platform where the castle was.

>No, BG9 was being cut down by by Haschwalth. Remember that Haschwalth was brought back to execute Cang Du and BG9.

He was never cut down. The scene immediately switched back and during the Auswahlen there were more light than Sternritter so BG9 and/or Cang Du survived the execution.

>Lillie was killed by Juha Bach. He said himself that he aborbed the rest of the Quincy that were still alive that he hadn't before hand.

He didn't say that. He said that he had no more use for the Sternritter. That doesn't mean he absorbed them all or that they all died and Lille had lost his godly power anyway, so he couldn't be targeted in the first place.

>Except GiGi was still seen as dead.

There is a thing called playing possum, which is how Giselle escaped from Mayuri. Giselle's tongue was out, which would mean Giselle was absorbing blood. After Orihime and Ichigo arrived Giselle and Liltotto were no where to be seen. Giselle was stabbed in the, heart and survived. A head wound is rather minor compared to that.

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Liltotto a best, fuck you Kubo for jobbing her

Sternritters in Bleach Brave Souls WHEN?

I want to poison shitters and go Marylin Manson and Killer Queen on their asses

Bambi a best

All of the Sternritter existed to job.

I'm not even kidding, its an actual plot point that a lot of people overlook, Hacshvald even confirmed it.

t. Gigi

This reminds me, how did Bazz B survive Auswahlen?

Ishida was hyped for having survived Auswahlen and nothing came out of it.
Also based Liltotto evaded Auswahlen while carrying Gigi.

gigi a best as well


a lot of them survived auswahlen like NaNa. It just showed there powers being taken instead of there life force or whatever the fuck. I guess Yhwach just needed to kill robert to revive everyone

Askin a bestritter. no they didnt have a chance against gerard. we needed a shinji run in with a super bullshit hax bankai.

>never got to see his banki
he and Ukitake I was most eager for

We didn't see Nananabatman getting hit by Auswahlen though.
Neither saw Meninas or Thundercunt again

best characters in all of manga. worst writing. kubo needed someone to reign his shit in more. how you can have all these great characters and churn out that shit ending i dont know.

HES KINGIN' AND A KONGIN'

fuck I remember this image. So many fucking good times with this.
Weird, I thought I remember seeing a side panel of when Bazz got hit it. He was there on the ground like unconscious or whatever.

i wont forgive the bastard for his treatment of ukitake

>Giselle
No kidding.
The average jap reader is lower than the worst shippers/shitposters on Sup Forums. Pound scum who read shonen for the kind of shit that they would find in ecchi and hentai if they weren't so fucking retarded.

I'm surprised no US companies or Europeans ones have tried getting manga writers to move over here and set up there own shit. I feel they may be treated better with a much easier to access fanbase.

Regulations in place to protect the comics industry.

You're overestimating the popularity of manga outside Japan, and underestimating the nastiness of western fanbase.

You are probably thinking of the scene were we saw thundercunt, nanana and robert fucked up by Byakuya after his Royal Training

Dude fought against 5 ritters at once and defeated 3 without a scratch

Giselle's also liked in the west as well. It's probably the personality.

I thought people like Juha Bach, Haschwalth, Asken Nakk Le Varr, Bambeitta, As Nodt, Bazz-B, BJ9, Opie, Mask De Masculine, and Gigi.