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Make a good argument for communism.

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Communism meaning synonymous to Marxism-Leninism:
it provided a highly efficient governance in Russia, China and other underdeveloped nations in the world. It pioneered radical but efficient reforms. It provides critical analysis of Neoliberal concepts. It challenges American-centric world order without a threat of destructive violence.

stops obesity

Communism stopped regular hungers in China and Russia, and eventually provided a healthier and more nutritious diet than in some developed countries.

>Marxism-Leninism
Imagine if Plato called it Socrates-Platoism instead of a Republic.

College-aged marxist detected.

Do the world a favor and kill yourself. You know nothing about anything

After millions died of starvation? Are you unironically really saying this user? In lots of places people only had one kind of butter, milk or cucumbers brand. What killed the nutriotional value of food where the industrial ways it was procesed, than skewed the traditional ways of treatement (like fermenting, grass feeding, sprouting or whatever) to make it faster and cheaper, a thing lots of comunist states did anyway and only babushkas than still prepared the food in the old ways and got in the forest to forage for mushrooms or wild greens made they diet better, I bet the people in cities had the same shit diets than any nation outside the comunist umbrella.

>regular hungers in Russia
Is this to be blamed on the government?
Russian famines occured mainly because of shitty weather, thus low harvest, also most of Russia's grain and sugar beets were produced in the Black earth region (hence why Grain costed 5x as much in St.Petersburg back then) are you saying the Commies had conspiracy theory-tier HAARP or some shit? Only exclusion I can think of is the 1891 famine, which can be blamed on the government.

How about you show us why he knows nothing with a display of your own knowledge.

Not him, but mortality rate in Russia increased since the break up of the USSR

It has a jewish origin, so is good because we are accepting minorities and encouraging diversity.

>kills more people than nazis
>not worse than nazis

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism

Marx literally wrote 'On The Jewish Question' which many scholars consider to be anti-semitic in nature.

Hundreds of millions of people died due to his disgusting autistic theory. The burden of proof lies on him to prove how he can actually make it work

According to Soviet government statistics, which regularly deleted people’s identities after they and their families were systematically executed. That’s 60-80million deaths not part of the official “death rate”

You’re a bigger retard than the people who think Cuba’s healthcare is good because of their “government statistics”

Guys common, I actually wanted to hear real arguments for communism.

Russia after it fell.

>muh gorillions

Meme. Meanwhile there are sources that backup high mortality and constant famines in the guberniyas of the Russian Empire. CONSTANT, you faggot.

And yes, Tzar got btfo because the last hunger actually wen't down in Pidorsburg as well.

helps identify enemies of society by those that identify with it

>small famines happen sometimes to a pre-industrial society
>Therefore it’s perfectly fine to purposely starve to death hundreds of millions of people

Really makes ya scratch your nutsack and think

>Hundreds of millions
20 million die every year from preventable causes under Capitalism. This excludes funding of death squads, war and destablisation, austerity, and race to the bottom architecture.

>20 million die every year from preventable causes under Capitalism.
>preventable causes
Who says there's any obligation to do anything against it as long as you are not causing it?

>Russian famines occured mainly because of shitty weather

If only this - the kulaks (yes, the term kulaks or miroyedi, comes from about 20 years before bolsheviks) were a thorn in the ass of successful agrarian development (and development of peasantry) for the decades.

Endelhardt, Stolypin, A.S. Yermolov, even foreigners like Dillon noticed the obvious.

>Under capitalism
Is not the same thing as Because of capitalism. Niggers will probably starve to death under any system unless good ol’ whitey can hold their hand (but not too much cus dats colonization nd shieeet)

"& Humanities" doesn't mean that anything goes. It's "History & Humanities, so long as there isn't a whole other fucking board dedicated to the humanity you're talking about." This isn't even Sup Forums with dates, it's just Sup Forums.

In other words, fuck right off.

Leninism is utter garbage

>purposely starve to death hundreds of millions of people

Nobody fucking ordered those faggots to kill their own cattle and burn their own crops under the delusion of "That'll show those city dwelling idiots", you inbred.
And yes, it's not fucking small when half of the children, roughly, don't live past 5.

>admits to being an urbanite

Why? Communism is shit. But so is unchecked capitalism. We should be making arguments for Enlightenment values, not this garbage.

>Nobody fucking ordered those faggots to kill their own cattle and burn their own crops

nice propaganda
the soviets dindu nuffin, they never killed or expelled anyone to confiscate their land resulting in farming controlled by state agents that knew nothing about farming leading to extremely inneficient agriculture and millions starving
by the way, the USSR never, NEVER was an exporter of grain in it's entire industry, in contrast Russia is now a huge exporter of grain

>communism
>all property is shared equally
>all people are equal

>totalitarinam regimes with "communist" ideology
>all property is owned by 1%
>majority is being oppressed by ruling minority

i mean, whats so hard to understand about this

>without a threat of destructive violence
Nigger what?

based mods keeping /his/tory clean

They need to be killed.

>thread was moved to Sup Forums
Fuck Sup Forums.

well looks like & humanities means nothing now

Communists? Definitely.

Political shitflinging belongs on Sup Forums

your thread was garbage amerimutt, plus &Humanities has always been destructively ambiguous on /his/ leading to shitflinging

>browses /his/tory
my man

Ok, here is my argument why communism is shit and will never work.
Let's assume we are talking only about white people.
There are stupid people who still gonna only do cheap labour and they are smart people who will try to reach higher.
By all the logic you as a smart person who leads some big projects deserve more than some drunkard who just carries boxes from one point to another.

But not in communism. Every shitty worker has the same value as the smartest scientist who has huge responsibility.

Because people are so different (even if we only consider whites) communism will fail.

It will only work when everything will be replaced by AI and humanity won't even be needed anymore, or we get 2 class society with "communist" lower class and completely different upper class who will rule the world.

Oh and did I forget to mention that hard workers will get the same as the lazy faggots because they won't be fired?

one good argument for gommunism is that it is perfectly viable if you allow it to evolve naturally.

Karl Marx talked about a communist state being the end state of society, and he's right. Once all of the hard jobs have been automated and unemployment hits something ridiculous like 70-80%, there will be a necessity for a universal basic income. This will be the starting point. Sooner or later, those 20% will shrink and shrink and automation will become better and better until the entire country can be run by a machine that calculates the "most logical" thing to do in any given situation, and the people can vote on the issue with their quantum-encrypted vote machine. if they vote against it, the machine has to give another alternative, over time it will learn what the people are willing to give up and sacrifice in a given situation and become the perfect leader for those people. Then, and only then, will we have true, sustainable communism.

The downfall of every communist(or (((socialist))) state has been leadership corruption and farm problems (China pseudo-privatised their farms and suddenly they were successful, they're practically not socialist any more, and Venezuela went from exporting food to other countries to importing it and -once the oil ran out- eventually mass starvations occurred .

It's funny to watch it fail

Well, he never killed Innocent peop... O whet