Is fascism/nazism really a viable system if they lost to communists and liberal capitalists in ww2?

is fascism/nazism really a viable system if they lost to communists and liberal capitalists in ww2?

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>Women get vote in west
>women become half the electorate
>women vote for welfare state
>welfare sate is bigger government
>bigger government requires more taxes
>welfare state incentives single mothers
>government becomes surrogate fathers
>single mothers raise niggers
>niggers cause more crimes
>niggers create more single mothers
>bigger government creates mandatory gibs spending
>women will never vote away welfare state
>every solution to problems caused by welfare state = more welfare state
>families destroyed and birth rates plummet
>immigration to replace births
>men loose incentive to support system
>social collapse

>Hitler kicked the Jews out and the Jews sent all the world to war against Germany.

The reason why the sicced the world on Germany was BECAUSE it was a viable system.

>liberal capitalists
You don't know much about history do you?

Nazism died in the 1940s.

Liberal capitalism is inevitably creeping toward fascism as they sell out all collective interest programs, in favor of policies that favor the rich. The result of this will inevitably either be fascism (unlikely), or the collapse of capitalism (extremely likely). When I say capitalism is going to collapse, I'm NOT insinuating socialism, communism, or any other leftist utopian idea will take its place; rather, the cycle will repeat itself, and a new capitalist empire will grow and grow, until that society collapses. This cycle basically represents every human society since the industrial revolution, and we will only get past it once technology or scarcity force us into a new form of social organization.

The utopian, ideal form of communism is completely incoherent, and literally impossible beyond the level of a small community farm or hippie commune. National communism is a moronic system that is by design economically inefficient, and inevitably leads to inefficient distribution, and then starvation.

are you just joking or are you legitimately retarded

I could ask you the same thing

Yes, Hitler actually made Germany great again and turned it into a world superpower
That's not what fascism is

do you understand the actual definition of liberal or are you such a uckc that you're too eager to use the American definition?

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Corporate control was a key aspect on the march to fascism in Italy. You two should study a little history.

>muh semantics
off yourself

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wow. so you're ACTUALLY retarded.

>muh words
>muh definitions

what's next. are you gonna say that evolution is just a theory?

>what's next. are you gonna say that evolution is just a theory?

>The utopian, ideal form of communism is completely incoherent, and literally impossible

They said this about the Titanic, computers, and right now quantum computers.

They also said that about surpassing the speed of light.

fuck off.

It seems pretty likely that we are merely repeating these oscilating trends of bouncing between Nihilism and Totalitarianism, always and forever creating conflict after conflict after conflict.

It's easy to see how it happens because people use the state to benefit at the expense of others, where you have leeches and corporatists sucking dry the productive members of society and destroying all of the institutions that gave their lives meaning, which produces Nihilism and depression about the world, expressed in violent and tribalist responses.

I honestly believe the Marxists have undermined the economic structure to the point of collapse, created a nationalist and facists response and that the only way out of it or the only way to avoid it next time will be to destroy the tendencies towards nihilism through truth and freedom so that people no longer feel the need to divide and fight to find meaning and identity.

The positivity in life is complete missing and I agree we're shaking and struggling in an attempt to break through to the next stage of social organization. It's scary stuff because most likely as you say will be conflict, destruction and another attempt.

just get off your butt and provide for yourself, you fucking soyboy

War doesn't prove a system is weak or can't survive. If you attack any system in its infancy it will fall. Nazis would have won if WWII had happen decades later and Germany would have easily become the most powerful nation on earth. If anything WWII proves how effective Nazism and fascism are. With only a few years Germany became a nation in which the entire west had to team up to take them on and this is after they had already fought WWI.

source on the pic?

Only non-compulsory trade and association are the peaceful path forward for the human race. All other forms are just different forms of tyranny.

Nazi policies were short term and would've led to long term misery which is why they had to be reversed in order to produce Germany's post-war economic miracle recovery.

They also kind of rely on continual expansion and capture of resources to maintain momentum so they never had decades to grow without conflict and it was hardly in its infancy when they were fully mobilized, maybe the german economy and people could have grown peacefully for a few more decades first but unless they copied the capitalist world they would always have started the pre-war production process behind the US. Capitalism (as it was back then) just works too damn well.

Reminder that (((communists))) were forced to team up with their "stated" arch enemies the (((capitalists))) in order to just barely bring down fascism.
Also I would argue that since Mao died China has been a fascist nation in everything but name.

> just barely bring down fascism.
The Italians basically brought down themselves, the Spanish couldn't even last a couple of decades ruling their own people and the Nazi's had 0 chance of beating the US to anything but a defensive stand still IF it had managed to take over Europe to create its stated fortress continent.....how is that "barely" or are you just thinking of the amount of countries that ganged up on them?

>Nazi's had 0 chance of beating the US to anything but a defensive stand
no shit that was their endgame, they never planned on invading the US. They would force russia to surrender and at that point both the US and the Nazis would have no chance of invading the other resulting in a cold war situation.

Which despite being the planned may not have been realistic. You might agree here that there may have been a scenario where the Germans are prepared to face just the US and prevented them from gaining a foothold, but in most of the scenarios they couldn't stop them, Europe is just too big and US production was just too large. Maybe if they were able to change the yank perceptions about the desirability of the war?

Remember when Hitler and his inner circle transformed Germany from a shithole into a world superpower within a decade?
If anything, requiring almost the entire planet and endless human waves from commies to beat them is proof of a very solid model.

Plus, fascism was raising a new kind of Man.
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>but in most of the scenarios they couldn't stop them
The only reason that the US invasion succeeded in the first place was because all of the German soldiers that were worth anything were in the east. The coasts were guarded by skeleton crews of reservists and teens. If the eastern troops were freed up they defiantly could have guarded the coasts.

US always had a option of invading anywhere on the planet due to it's naval program, build up prior - during ww2 . Germany had tiny navy faggot.

I've got a bad feeling that Democracy is here to stay.

>US always had a option of invading anywhere on the planet due to it's naval program
You dont know shit about naval invasions lad, due to terrain there are only a limited amount of locations you can invade and even if the initial invasion is successful the german could just send in hundreds of thousands of motorized infantry and armor from hundreds of mines away in a few days to crush the landing party before they could be reinforced.

Of the whole continent? Or just the surrounding countries of France etc?
Surely its too perverse and destructive to stay long term. Maybe in a life support, plodding along and stagnating kind of way but that would be pretty shit, I think peoples reactionary tendencies would probably shake things up eventually.

>Of the whole continent? Or just the surrounding countries of France etc?
I guess the Us could try to invade elsewhere but other nations have militaries too, I can't imagine an invasion of Spain would have gone well. And lets say in a best case American scenario they managed to land some crazy number like 20 million troops (which is 20 times the size of the Normandy invasion and there were not enough ships in all of the Waring nations combined to do). The Germans had just defeated an even larger soviet army than that in this scenario.

We had the second largest navy in the world right behind the usa and uk the third but much weaker

Just post a link to the vid

No it suffers from the same problems as communism with nepotism and corruption. There are some checks and balances in a Republic like America. Best solution out of terrible options type of deal.

lol

They lost to jewish fascism.

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> The Germans had just defeated an even larger soviet army
I think one of the biggest parts in WW2 wasn't numbers (which is obviously a part of it as far as throwing bodies forward endlessly) but more along the lines of supply, industry, mechanization etc.

Stories in the war of how the US were able to expend 10x the ammunition than their enemies which is huge in maintaining a fight at a particular spot, how they had so many artillery shells that they were able to use them to find german positions just waste them away, whereas the germans had to send people in to die to find positions to bomb. Then you've got the US's 100% mechanization for carting supplies and troops around, can't be understated so in my opinion the big question is, the resources the germans needed, their ability to match the US (at least proportionally) in industry to beat them in a drawn out war. Tactical incompetence aside.

"hen I say capitalism is going to collapse, I'm NOT insinuating socialism, communism, or any other leftist utopian idea will take its place; rather, the cycle will repeat itself, and a new capitalist empire will grow and grow, until that society collapses. This cycle basically represents every human society since the industrial revolution, and we will only get past it once technology or scarcity force us into a new form of social organization." I don't think that we have ever seen capitalism collapse in the west. We have seen it cause mass unemployment and necessitate reforms. However, the basic elements of private property, money being lent at interest, trade between nation states, and currency backed by those nation states, has stayed in place since the industrial revolution. At least in western Europe and north America.

The Germans would have gained a huge amount of resources and industry form the conquered eastern territory they would also be able to rebuild the infrastructure as most allied bombing wouldn't be able to reach that far east.

>>single mothers raise niggers
and then you started memeing

With russia gone and europe under friendly occupation/alliance we could still never really win against the usa without some gigabtic invasion with tens of millions soldiers and same goes for the usa
Industry would be the same power i think with almost the same amount of people
Our rocket tech was much better i think this would be the only easy way to win to just terrorbomb the usa until they give up

If I grab 15 of my buddies, come kick in your door and kill you and your family does that invalidate your beliefs?

"fascism" (being the product of various political tendencies) is essentailly anti-colonialism for Europeans.
The idea being to unite the subjugated or maligned nations against the imperialistic and "plutocratic" nations.
Idiotic leftists (the kind that follow American "marxist professors") don't seem to understand that "race" isn't an issue if there isn't a pillarization of "society" (empire) ala "multiculturalism"

The commies essentially teamed up with the furthest "right" possible. They are gone. Europe is gone.

America are CURRENTLY using "brown people" as proxies in Europe because they figure they have the hearts and minds of these groups from perpetual exploitation of the alienation created by a lack of social cohesion + their immense soft power inflence (why does "diversity" and "inclusivity" not mean importaing or promoting regional content, only American content sold to the end user?)

weak beliefs lose

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natsoc hasn't lost yet. the battle of ideologies takes much longer than a few generations.

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Germany, Italy and Japan vs. the four largest empires in the world all at once.

The fact that they lasted so long shows the strength of the ideology desu.