More and more chinese born in the west e.g. American born chinese are considering establishing life china. How do fellow chinese diaspora in Australia, canada, new zealand, etc feel about where they stand in the west in the face of a rising power in china?
Pic related of a private message i received after telling the guy that china was a great experience
>no discussion God you chinese diaspora are such cowards
Adrian Johnson
They will be rounded up and bang >no man,no problem
Zachary Gomez
Lol. Morons have no idea what they're in for. They live in a the lap of luxury in the west; their bodies can't handle gutter oil and melamine milk, and they have no idea how and when to bribe people to avoid getting screwed.
Ian Barnes
Diaspora here
I work in China, I travel back and forth often. Dunno what you mean "where they stand in the west". I just make money and live life
Why do westerners act so "worried" about how Chinese people are doing? Face it, you don't care at all what living in China is like, you just want to spread negativity. Worry about yourself.
Nicholas Hughes
and lol at "learning cantonese" only useful in hongkong, where people understand english and mandarin anyway
Benjamin Perez
>I just make money and live life What is it with the diaspora and downplaying the how chinas rise and wealthy chinese investors doesnt affect them. The fact that you're working in china meant its more than just that. And look at your reaponse to the other user. You obviously have a personal issue about it
Mason Nguyen
Asian American here. I consider myself Asian American, and I'm proud to be an American citizen.
Henry Perez
>asian-american >asian Okay
Jayden Hill
I wish these insect people would fuck off back home.
Carter Nguyen
What are you asking?
Logan Kelly
what does China's rise have anything to do with my standing in the west though?
I'll work in China if there's money to be made, if not I'll work in Canada. What's the issue?
Lincoln Evans
>White-American >African-American >Hispanic-American The only real Americans are the natives. So what is the problem?
Isaiah Price
Because if china was still a shithole youd still work in china right? No. I like how you downplayed it like you being a chinese diaspora didnt influence your decision to make a living in china. Gotta love how chinese diasporas keep distancing themselves from the fact theyre more chinese than their nationality
Hudson Mitchell
Why Cantonese? Mandarin is spoken by 1.5+ billion people.
Jayden Roberts
The problem is that its none of your business
Brandon Perry
Why ask me?
Aaron Jenkins
This thread is about Chinese diaspora. You being an asian doesnt mean anything
Connor James
lol where did I say any of that?
yes I'm more Chinese than Canadian. obviously if China's economy wasn't as good there wouldn't be as many opportunities. obviously the fact I'm Chinese makes me more likely to work in China
whats your question??? I'm genuinely confused what you're trying to get at
Hunter Stewart
hong kong makes better pop music
Lincoln Sullivan
You didnt say it buddy. You directly implied it. How much do you want to dodge at this point?
What am i saying? I already said it. You just ignored it. God the chinese diaspora are so uptight
Robert Reed
what am I dodging? what did I imply? you seem upset for some reason lol relax
Nicholas Taylor
That doesn't even make sense. 2/10 Need to sharpen your trolling skills
Nathaniel Ortiz
Yeah ok keep downplaying the chinese diaspora problem. You didnt pick china at all because youre ethnically chinese. It seems to be very common for Chinese diaspora to discount their lack of sense of belonging in the west. But yeah it runs so deep in you that you even downplay it on an anonymous imageboard
Carson Evans
>asian is the same as chinese Stay illiterate gook
Bentley Cooper
>You didnt pick china at all because youre ethnically chinese But I did pick China because I'm ethnically Chinese. It's obvious. When did I deny it?
>lack of sense of belonging in the west Canada's full of Chinese though, I fit right in
>the chinese diaspora problem that seems like a you problem, not a me problem
Christian James
the party is watching
Andrew Gray
Yeah keep denying it. >canada is full of chinese Yeah you just stick to your enclaves. Its not hard to figure you out. You probably treat Chinese diasporas the harshest because of your own internalised inferiority/superiority complex
Robert Gray
I'd prefer it if chinks immigrated to Taiwan or Singapore, than one party system China. China is quickly becoming a dystopian totalitarian state, with Chinese citizens now being tracked by the government's AI system and given ratings on how loyal they are to the state.
Jackson Kelly
lol why are you so upset? are you mad that China is buying out your country? or are you just trolling
>China Superpower by 2030 Lol China is the biggest paper tiger ever.
Jaxson White
The problem with the Chinese diaspora is they have a huge inferiority/superiority complex and will switch sides between their ethnicity and nationality depending on which one benefits them the most. They cannot grasp national pride. They have no country they can call home. At best they can be like a pseudo white guy in china because of their western citizenship.
They wont ever admit this thought
Kayden Stewart
Thank God I know mandarin
Juan Roberts
Thats a problem with all second generation immigrants, they never fit in with either culture.
It's a common phenomenon. Everyone already knows this lol, its not some revelation. Whats the big deal?
Nathaniel Sanchez
If you're silly enough to fall for those tourist traps you deserve it China is not bad, it is wild. Weak consumer rights let's many inferior goods proliferate. You need to know which fruits to pick.
Jose Rivera
Pls be true I want Deus Ex to be real
William Brooks
Look at how youre hising how jaded you are with your replies. No wonder you just stick with your enclaves
James Lewis
>China will collapse anytime soon, says increasingly nervous gwailo for 30th straight year in a row They already surpassed the US in PPP GDP
Hudson Stewart
fuck yeah , cantopop
Cameron Cook
International dollars means shit
Andrew Collins
Really hope this happens, it would be great for them and great for Canada and Australia. There's no point in learning Cantonese though.
Adrian Ward
Its better than USD GDP. Exchange rates are wildly swinging.
William Brown
The thing with chinese people even the ones who was never born there they always yearn to go back
Aaron Moore
>the only real Americans are the natives
No human beings are native to North America, certainly not the Asiatic tribes who crossed over. "America" literally comes from a European name- the real Americans are white, the only one who don't put a hyphen in front of "American".
Luke Sanchez
International dollars is stupid. Comparing usd is better because most of the import export goes to usa
Sure int dollars is higher for china but that doesnt say much
Connor Clark
This. The day ppl accept you as just american is the day youre american. Same with Canadian. No amount of mental gymnastics will change that. And you can never be american or canadian unless you fulfill the prerequisite of being white
Carson Johnson
18.3% of trade with the US. And non PPP GDP doesn't account for the cost of goods. Things are much cheaper in China.
Joshua Ortiz
Well ofc things are much cheaper in china. Most ppl in china are poor. Their gdp percapita is horrid. Many ppl say good things about china because the ppl on here who has visited china only goes to the best cities.
Jose Miller
nobody wants to be canadian tho
Daniel Sullivan
i assume that you're talking about the endgame, where the west reverses role and becomes third-world, housing its current inhabitants including wealthy Chinese who decided to establish a home away from home.
it could have all been prevented had the west not been greedy and off-shored everything. nothing left to do but to keep preparing.
Aaron Reed
it's going to be a you problem pretty soon you zipperhead insectoid
Sebastian Bell
I've never seen a Chinese person irl, AMA
Brayden Collins
this guy is being overly sensative
Carson Russell
Nope. I've been to the bad parts and the good parts. What has them being poor got to do with it? Accounting for how much goods actually cost, China is as a country wealthier than the US.
Leo Ward
k
Blake Rivera
lol dont even bother
I don't blame westerners for misconceptions about China, the country is changing so rapidly most Chinese can't even comprehend it. Western perceptions about China aren't wrong, they're just outdated... and time moves fast in China
Samuel Ward
A good way to put it is rich country but poor people Lol mind your own business you petty 2nd gen.
Lucas Powell
im 1st gen, my kids will be 2nd gen though
Adrian Thompson
Why do you bother replying? Petty 2nd gen >1st gen Sure you are buddy
Parker Richardson
>stick with your enclaves
It's a relative concept. If CHINK population > 50% it is (You) stick within your enclaves. If CHINKS take over they can gas you, legally of course because they make the law. Don't like it? Deport those things don't belong to your culture.
Eli Walker
its kind of annoying that the wealthier Chinese get the more they want to leave their country and live int eh west. It really fucks me off to be honest.
Camden Taylor
The grass is always greener on the other side. Which is why the Chinese come to the west. Since China is dirt and we have all the grass.
China is keen on global totalitarian control. We need to step up and fight back. WW3 will be the west against China. Mark my fucking words.
Hudson Robinson
and you'll probably lose kek
Asher Roberts
Doubt it. China's war strategy is the same as newbie starcraft player strategies...
>zerg (chink) rush >get obliterated by slightly more trained units >rage quit and restart their dynasty.
Jose Wilson
Most rich chinks stay in China. Jack Ma, Wang Jianlin. A certain percentage of people who are able live overseas because of international opportunities. The perception of masses of rich fleeing China comes from how many newly minted chinks there are, but most stay in china.
Kevin Powell
they seem to be colonizing Australia just fine
Ian Thompson
That's because Australia begged to be colonised by CHINKS. Boomers love CHINK's tiny cock, they sucked much and hard and let their daughters suck it along with them.
Carson Gonzalez
You're in the same boat as us. Hell your side is slowly sinking with how bad you guys have it.
Blake Ross
Oh you naive aussie, China is already finishing their opening play while the West is still trying to figure out where the pieces are. Look at every country in Asia, especially the second and third worlds. China drives their economy and investment. Along the banks of the Mekong Chinese casinos and ships. International China Banking Corporation branches line the streets of Malaysia. Chinese built trains run in Singapore. China is leveraging on the bamboo network of Chinese diaspora businessmen in the region, as well as a desire for these countries desire for captial the west doesn't want to provide, to become their superpower.
Everyone can see which way the wind is blowing. Duterte breaking off from the US to favor China despite territorial claims clashing with China. ASEAN not making a joint statement on the SCS because Laos vetoed it. Najib welcoming Chinese investment into Malaysia. One Belt One Road and Trump's protectionism is the final nail in the coffin. China will secure SEA as an export import market when Trump shuts off the world from America.
John Johnson
> china will be superpower by 2030
lol....Maximum Lulz. China is literally on the verga of extreme economic dislocation. They are losing the easy profits they made from currency manipulation and they have a housing bubble that is so fucking horrible it makes the bubble we had in 2007 seem like nothing. Straight up they are on the verge of some heinous shit going down in mainland china unless a miracle happens or they go to war in which case you diaspora chinks are going to get drafted to die for the communist party.
Eli Miller
China is close to civil war, and we are all waiting for the dynasty to collapse.
Thanks for the response
>t. salty chink
Grayson Martinez
Civil war? With who? The pro democracy fraction?
James Phillips
>China will collapse any second now! Memes aside though, China has an A1 credit rating from Moody's. Anything above B3 is considered investment grade. The claims of a housing bubble, supposedly crashing for the past five years, haven't materialized and the government's attempt to cool the market by tightening credit is working. China has just beaten forecasts for its exports and economic growth. So what's the basis for this imminent collapse?
Eli Bell
>fellow chinese diaspora >fellow fellow? they arent our friend. they have to go back.
Elijah Rodriguez
>china has a good credit goy >Ignore the massive ghost cities they build to artificially inflate their GDP >filled will countless housing units they cannot sell and sit empty because they dont want to lower the real estate price >ignore that glaring physical indicator of a fake economic growth and essentially a ponzei scheme >our reputable (((credit agencies))) say that everything is fine >literally the same fucking credit agency that have triple A ratings to the mfraufulent mortgate backed securities that collapse wall street. >the securities that were like a stack of dollar bills with a single 100$ bill on the top. >that was triple A rated by moodys >the same agency rating you now.
Has reality sunk the fuck in through your thick empty skull yet?
Eli Allen
as a friend said, asian people are like NPCs of the world.
Jackson Nguyen
kek this
Colton Robinson
>user calls China a paper tiger >Singapore user mentions their PPP GDP >which is a metric tracked by a notoriously dishonest government >on paper
China is a confirmed paper tiger both economically and militarily.
"Two Chinese armored brigades clashed in a week-long training exercise at the Zhurihe Training Base in Inner Mongolia in 2015. Both brigades were equipped with identical armored vehicles and weapons.
The Blue opposing forces brigade (OPFOR), however, was organized and fought in the fashion of a United States brigade combat team.
The Red friendly force was crushed. “Within an hour we were hit with airstrikes, enemy satellite reconnaissance, and cyberattacks … Frankly, I never imagined it would be this hard,” said Wang Ziqiang, the armored brigade commander of the Red force. Wang’s political commissar Liu Haitao was caught on camera sobbing after the defeat.
In a documentary aired on state television days before the 19th Party Congress in October, Liu said that his unit was initially very confident of victory over the Blue team, which was formerly a sister unit. “But over the course of seven days, we were beaten … we lost because we didn’t meet realistic combat standards when training our troops,” he said.
Subpar training tells only part of the story. Between 2014 and 2016, the “American” Blue team scored a total of 32 victories and one defeat against Red forces that comprised some of the best and most well-equipped units in the People’s Liberation Army (PLA). On average, Red forces sustained 70 percent simulated casualties after clashing with the Blue team.
The PLA’s poor performance against a modern military unit gave President and Commander-in-Chief Xi Jinping sufficient reason to seek an overhaul."
Justin Nelson
lmao, they're in for a rude awakening
Isaac Smith
kek. Americanized chinks beating the shit out of FOB chinks in a sim war is just the kind of porn id fap to.
Luis Bennett
Fuck the gooks and chinks, they are complete fucking cancer.
Jose Sanchez
>ghost cities meme Mate do you get your news only from buzzfeed? I'll summarize what happen with the city that started this meme, Ordos City >China government plans and building entire cities instead of letting cities grow like in the West >this rapidly urbanizes rural people and can create metropolises of millions in a decade >Ordos City was one such project >Al Jazeera reporter wanders into an almost finished city in 2014, reports it as empty >over next two years it starts filling up as planned >100,000 people have moved in within 2 years, a third of its capacity forbes.com/sites/wadeshepard/2016/04/19/an-update-on-chinas-largest-ghost-city-what-ordos-kangbashi-is-like-today/
Yeah, sure they fucked up in 2008. But on the whole, their ratings are accurate. And given that China has defied naysayers when it was supposed to collapse a decade ago, maybe China isn't going to collapse anytime soon.
Daniel Morgan
American posters fascinate me. The less they know the more they think they no. The PPP GDP calculations I used were from the IMF.
Ah yes, the China is currently deficient in X area argument. Mate everyone knows that. It's their rate of improvement that makes (rational) people sit up and take notice. Admission of their own mistakes just proves my point. I really don't care where China is now, I care what they're going to be. There were some pretty detailed analysis on /k/ about Xi's reforms, unfortunately I don't have them but the general gist is that China's military is improving very rapidly. Not American level yet, but improving rapidly.
Jaxon Diaz
sure thing CIDF, I noticed a curious lack of pics of all these people
Christian Allen
Isn't that a clip from The Three Kingdoms? Zhou Zu or something.
Ian Brooks
>muh anecdotal evidence Recognize pic related? Algo Centre Mall. The roof collapsed and killed two people and injured 20. Not relevant to our discussion, but your racism is warping your view of reality.
Cameron Hill
Cao Cao from Three Kingdoms 2010. Cao Cao is laughing because he just BTFO Yuan Shao by talking.
Jaxson Morris
>doesn't even address the question >deflects to an incident of a 50 year old structure fails which the owners were jailed for Give it up gook, and yes I'm racist and don't give a fuck about be called it. It's time for the west to kick out the invaders
Andrew Cooper
only real americans are white americans. The ones who made a barren wastleand into a world dominant superpower that attracted shitskins from across the globe. I am not an american btw
Ryan Hall
But there was no question What would images of China have to do with this discussion
Nolan Wilson
>I am not an american btw Does someone need to call ICE?
Jose Young
Nah. Jews did that. Who gave America nuclear weapons? Jews. Who gave America lasers to guide missiles? Jews. Who gave America computers to give their military the edge in logistics and targeting? Jews. Who guided half of all US foreign and domestic policy? Jews.
Asher Gomez
>But there was no question I implied that what forbes posted was completely false, the only photos in their shit article showed an empty city while claiming the opposite, it was a chink propaganda piece. Show me a pic of traffic and people shopping
Caleb Long
Who gave asians small penises? Jews.
Ayden Jenkins
I want to, but I don't know the language
Andrew Gonzalez
Learn?
Nathan Flores
Seems too complex, and I'd prefer Japanese instead desu
Xavier Stewart
>japanese Are you not of Chinese ancestry?
Jace Morales
There's no future in Japan. Eventually all the english speaking Chinese diasporas will return to china