maybe it's just me but after seeing Star wars I think Ahsoka from the clone wars is something rey will never get to.
-actually been trained as a Jedi, is functionally totally normal. no plot armor ingrained force knowledge. she was just a standard padawan - dumb as all hell initially but becomes legitimately strong and helpful - briefly has a love interest but the show never really panders to it. she just more or less accepts that she's a Jedi and it can't happen. - goes toe to toe with grevious by the end -leaves the show in a completely reasonable way. and it makes sense she was never talked about in ep 3. doing so would invalidate the Jedi and demonstrate that they are far from infallable.
They shoehorned her into Rebels later on, but overall I agree. A decent character with actual chronicled development without being a Mary Sue at the same level as Rei. Too bad it'll never be true to the cannon though, because the Clone Wars series was actually very well done.
Jeremiah Moore
Ahoska started off as a bit of a little shit, but she was SO much more realistic than Rey will ever be. Not that Kennedy cares - this is HER self-insert feminazi fanfic and she'll keep it that way!
Andrew Flores
I'd species mix with her desu
Lincoln Gray
yeah I haven't gone far enough into rebels to see if they fucked her character
Brody Brown
I honestly think TCW is one of the best storylines in star wars.
as far as a prequel it's very consistent and while yes there are a few legitimately stupid moments (jar jar episodes, some droid shit) it did move the story along and explain things.
I also like the clones in general more than the Jedi so it was very nice to see more about them and how they felt and whatnot.
Aiden Wood
egh. padme was annoying as all hell but if rather fuck her
Jackson Powell
hmmm. I'm going to self bump because I do actually want yo talk about it or compare the two. there may be things I'm missing
Justin Brooks
best girl by far
Jayden Jackson
I also think there's something to be said about the parallels between her and ventress throughout. very solid character progression for both.
Joseph Thompson
I am with you on this one but would it be not better to post this on Sup Forums?
Gavin Wood
mmm. possibly. I went for pol because pol has been talking about TLJ and I'm more curious about political statements than a character circle jerk.
Jaxson Brooks
As a statement for politics her character is well done to the points of >having character development vs being strong independent "wemyonz" >rey is already fucked up beyond believe through episode 7, 8 is only breaking the straw giving her all without the heroes journey >clone wars had overall consistency (I did not see all episodes, only like 2/3 with my nephews while babysitting) So yeah if you want a good product clone wars is well above the new films but even the prequels are better in my opinion.
Brody Anderson
star wars beyond the original trilogy and game franchises is total and utter shit
Isaiah Lewis
i thought rebels and the clone wars cgi series were both cannon?
Nathaniel King
Jedi's are the ultimate cucks. > Dont have attachments goyi-uhh I mean, padawan! > Yes yes! All have sex with one another! Kehehehe who needs pair bonding?
She's a hoebag who has her cunny creamed by strange men in robes.
Jackson Reyes
I think the prequels are mostly judged by episode 1. 2 and 3 really aren't the worst things. but I do agree the prequels are better than the newer sequels
Matthew Stewart
they are
Hudson Parker
TCW is canon though.
Luke Campbell
what specifically was wrong with clone wars?
Henry Gutierrez
I like her but as far as female SW characters go, I doubt anybody will top Kreia.
Nicholas Ward
since when did Jedi ever fuck eachother? you may have been watching star wars on porn hub
Colton Cook
I haven't played the games really beyond old battlefront 2. whats cool about her?
it can also be said that clone wars didn't have to invent anything to make their characters strong.
rey gets "force visions" massive force strength and ability an actual connection to the bad guy so she can randomly see what he is doing
nobody else got any of those things. not even luke if we're being honest. sure like sped through training but he was still being drilled CONSTANTLY after being found
Lucas Jones
Since always. It's literally canon. They're allowed sex aslong as it's without attachment. Kai-adi Mundi (dude on the council with the big head) was allowed wives under a special circumstance, since his species is dying out. He was never allowed to bond with his children though. Or wives. He could just fuck and leave.
It's not uncommon for masters to have these relationships with their padawan too.
Robert Parker
This isn’t politics
Dominic Walker
This is the problem with people getting involved that a.) don't know what consistency is and b.) don't give a shit about lore You can see that with many franchises that get to a point where the original created lost steam or is gone for good.
Daniel Cox
I wanted to fuck her
Oliver Hall
so it honestly seems like it all is pretty political. sure it's a stretch but clone wars seems pretty right wing in that work gets rewarded and everyone for the most part has a place in society.
whereas tlj is absolutely riddled with handouts and they STILL have to be bailed it of every situation throughout the movie.
Thomas Jones
pretty much everything is political.
sure it's not directly talking about Trump but the ideologies or situations that go into any character in any story can be related to politics.
Grayson Sanders
>is functionally totally normal. Mental illness is a liberal virtue.
Ryder Gomez
They are.
Kevin Reed
om not sure if you're joking by I'm not saying "she isn't retarded" I'm saying "she isn't a god like the Skywalkers/Rey (who is still a Skywalker let's be real)"
Josiah Young
You are correct. The reason why the Jedi Council was so reluctant to have Obi-Wan train Anakin is because Anakin was already 9 years old when they first met, which meant that he had already formed a strong attachment to his mother.
Jordan Roberts
sure. and that definitely comes out in ep.2 but it's not once mentioned in the movies that Jedi are boning eachother so it's a bit of a nonfactor in the topic at hand
Jace Walker
>but it's not once mentioned in the movies that Jedi are boning eachother
True, but it is mentioned in supplementary materials which are canon.
Cameron Hughes
Female obiwan who doesn't give a shit about your feelings and tells you the hard reality of life. She is also a secret sith.
Jedi are over structured and stifled in order to maintain control. Sith are too often portrayed as chaotic stupid and everyone in between is hunted by both.
Jonathan Price
Victim politics is about being the runt of the litter. Mental illness makes you a victim who is loved and protected. Which is why Rey has childhood PTSD.
Caleb Adams
are they still?
Adam Baker
I figured she was more gray than with. which becomes more and more evident. honestly I'm both happy and mad at this as every fucking star wars hipster loves talking about gray Jedi but ultimately that's what she ended up as.
Michael Ross
>debating cartoons.
What are you, 12?
Jeremiah Campbell
so whereas in the prequels anikan fails to overcome his desire to save padme. and luke succeeds to overcome his desire for power and also revenge
this trilogy s set overcoming herself... yeah that's not at all hard to believe. she spends all of tlj asking for a place in the world. she's lost a fuck and yet STILL somehow op. how they sit there and claim she's ready to be a Jedi is beyond me
Levi Edwards
cartoons by nature are a parody or unrealistic adptation of real world events or possibilities.
besides. this isn't ed edd and eddy
Joseph Richardson
To be honest, I don't know. I hope so, but knowing (((Disney))).....
Nolan Thomas
Get a fucking life you loser. Talking about made up fairy tales while you have so much in life that needs fixing.
Shits like you are the reason for the decline of Western civilization.
Samuel Campbell
if its not a movie, clone wars or rebels then it is not.. maybe there have been books made since disney though
Carson Myers
The whole Jedi can't love wasn't even original. Lucas added that after his divorce.
Jaxson Lee
currently getting my masters degree. just bored and can't sleep.
Ryder King
will also never have orange buttcheeks
Brandon Young
Yes and it was harder to indoctrinate him into a boitoy for the masters.
Jayden Torres
Probably
Sebastian Fisher
So you're telling me Anakin probably plowed Ahsoka? Hot desu
Honestly, the clone-centric episodes were some of my favourites. The whole stuff with Domino Squad was great. I loved that they gave these usually blank fodder personalities, it made seeing them get slaughtered a lot more powerful.
Jose Moore
>tfw no qt red-pilled Chiss gf
Life is suffering.
Levi Peterson
I do find it funny that people in this thread are calling star wars not political when entire episodes of clone wars were spent debating banking structures and what the chancellor had power over.
granted comparing Rey and ahsoka isn't super political buy it can be if you talk about what their creators were getting at.
Rey is Tumblr and gets handed everything ahsoka spent years learning and being on the field and willingly left after being betrayed by everyone.
which one makes the better hero
James Allen
Light-side Sith is the best of both worlds desu.
Isaac Price
I completely agree with you, man. That shit really pisses me off, considering that Poe is more of a hero in the sequel trilogy than MaREY Sue. Poe helped to destroy Starkiller Base, he appeared with other Resistance pilots on Takodana to help out his friends and he also fought against the First Order fleet at the start of The Last Jedi. Poe literally did nothing wrong. Dude's a hero and should be treated as such.
Poe > MaREY Sue
Jose Lewis
I agree with his character eval. but I think he's also busted.
dude single handedly disabled one of the single greatest star destroyers to exist.
like c'mon star wars why is everyone now op.
Ryder Nguyen
bleh..dark side Brianna-Handmaiden for me
Noah Davis
>like c'mon star wars why is everyone now op.
I disagree, the sequel trilogy has given us flawed characters (like Finn and Kylo, for example) but Poe being op is actually a part of his character. For example, even Kylo calls Poe 'the best pilot in the Resistance'. Even Poe himself brags "I can fly anything."
Sebastian Edwards
don't get me wrong I am happy enough to say that he can do that. he is clearly very good. I just think showing him be capable of those feats without also showing a few people dying in the process makes him look a little too good.
yes some bombers died but after and for different reasons
Christopher Nelson
Man, the old canon was so much better, anyway
fuck k*kes
Lucas Jenkins
My biggest problem with Star Wars has always been how pathetic and easily defeated a lot of the villains have been. Boba and Jango Fett, Count Dooku, and General Grievous were all talked about or portrayed as the most challenging opponents a Jedi could face and all of them are dispatched in five minute combat sequences. Darth Maul was the only one-dimensional villain who gave the Jedi a proper challenge.
Cameron Collins
and Darth maul continued to do so.
I do disagree on Dookie. I thin he relied way too much on manipulation and lightning. plus much like most bad guys I think he got overconfident and cocky, and expected that if he lost he'd just escape again because the baddest fuck in the galaxy was right next to him to stop anikan from killing him. instead he wasn't stopped.
Logan Butler
dooku* think*
man if I don't constantly micromanage my autocorrect it's pretty awful. better than the alternative though probably
Thomas Anderson
Sup Forums
Robert Morales
Wedge Antilles is better than that faggot.
Jason Scott
Agreed. Lucas selling Star Wars to (((Disney))) was the greatest mistake in cinematic history.
Anthony Miller
I also completely agree on at least jango. mandalorean bounty hunters were ery good at anti jedi combat as shown by pre visla in tcl. to die that quickly is pretty sad. I don't know the book lore very well. was jango just a mandalorean wash up or was he actually supposed to be good?
Aiden Cox
He is. No disagreements there.
Nolan Cooper
Didn't late imperial remnants have some op pilots too?
Camden White
A man of taste I see.
Cooper Rogers
>entirety of the Jedi, save Obi Wan, and Yoda are wiped out by Sheev and goons and forced into hiding >abused young Mary Sue comes along and reks everyone
Garbage. Capeshit in space
Nolan Stewart
Love how Sup Forums pretend to be cool but are obsessed with children's star wars cartoons
fucking pathetic, lmao
Daniel Richardson
God I love the high level of political discourse in this community
Bentley Howard
I wanted to fuck her too and I can, because the Star Wars galaxy is real in an infinite number of universes.
Juan Moore
I honestly can't tell if you're talking about rey or luke.
sheev and rey never meet. if they did she would be fucked.
Aiden Gray
anyone who still strived to be seen as cool never really left high school.
Brody Lee
Luke got his ass handed to him multiple times and only won against Vader because the later wanted to spare his son. What's Rey excuse?
Jackson Parker
TCW was much better than anyone gives it credit for. Storyline was much darker too, especially since it was on a kids network.
Bentley Harris
that's a very good point. well played.
rey trained for a total of 15 minutes so clearly she deserves to be the strongest Jedi.
Juan Sullivan
Jango got unlucky as fuck. If his jetpack hadn't gotten busted he probably wouldn't have died in that arena.
Hudson Sanchez
i love how they tried to make it a kids show... but only adults really cared so by season 3 people were getting beheaded and suddenly genocide was happening on planets.
Evan Taylor
how did boba get a good as he did with jango having died so young?
I know in TCW he falls in with his own group of bounty hunters but is pretty shit so does someone train him?
Daniel Bailey
holy fuck I butchered that. how did boba get as good as he did when jango died when boba was still only about 10