Atheists always spouting off about how woke they are, and how much they value free and independent thought...

Atheists always spouting off about how woke they are, and how much they value free and independent thought, but they all sound the fucking same. Western Civilization was founded on Judeo-Christian values, and atheists throw the baby out with the bath water. Their view of religion comes from Marx, and thus, is reprehensible

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No shit. Also, Sup Forums is a Christian board so atheists can fuck off anyways

>Judeo-Christian values, and atheists throw the baby out with the bath water
No they explicitely only throw out the bath water i.e. religion and keep the shitty egalitarian values. Socialism is just secular kikestianity.

Also an atheist that admires chritian culture is still atheist, like you.

>socialism is just secular kikestianity

You clearly understand neither

I do you don't. What a meaningful argument from christlarpers as usual

(((judeo-christian)))

Atheists are just edgy retards who don't want to admit they're scared of the unknown of death and whether they will have eternal damnation or eternal bliss so they pretend to be above all of it in a coy attempt to be able to feel in control of their lives for once but deep down they're the most broken fucked up idiots alive.

It may have been founded on religious belief but that doesn't mean they were right. It takes time to figure thing out and they didn't know better back than. We certainly know better now. If you still beilive in God than you're living in a bygone era. Get with the program. God is dead.
Chriwtians are a minority in this board stupid. You're just as bad as gays

Christians are nonexistant. The only people calling themself christian are people like You won't find a person more opposed to christian values than christlarpers.

>Judeo-Christian value
Honestly, fuck off neocon.
Christianity trumps Judaism.
Equating synagogue of Satan to one True Church this way is almost sacrilege.

>Judeo-Christian values
No such thing.
It's Christian values alone.
Kikes are immoral and grotesque greedy rats who despise everything Jesus stood for.

The Judeo-Christian religion is founded on European pagan religions and traditions.

Science changes for it is imperfect creation of man.
Religion is eternally the same as has been for 2000 years, because it is perfect.
Begone.

Wtf, whats wrong with not believing in a God? Just because i don't believe in on it doesn't mean that i hate Christians, in fact, i love them. Its Muslims that i fucking hate with a passion.

I'm not a Christian though. I'm agnostic but I believe in a God and an afterlife I just have no idea what it will be like though. I used to be an atheist back when I was an edgy retarded teenager and just wanted to piss off Christians for the lulz but actually taking an atheistic view on life seriously is plain retarded.

There's nothing wrong with physically protecting your family from a violent mudslime pig.

>Judeo-Christian values

>acting as though Western values developed infrom Christianity
>Western values actually developed in spite of Christianity
Nice try, Christcuck

*from

That may be the case (I'm not sure) but 1st world countries are FAR from Judeo-Christian

>we don't follow 10 commandments
graven images, not remembering the sabbath aren't illegal and in fact would go against western values if this was enforced. In fact only two of the ten commandments are legally enforced (not killing and stealing). Maybe three depending on how you interpret bearing false witness.

In fact, I'd argue the west is founded on ENLIGHTENMENT VALUES.

>nobody owns ideas
It doesn't matter where they came from. If they're right, they're right. That's why we don't need christianity even if they did have some good things.

>there are bad things in the bible too
And this is why atheists don't hold the bible in high regard. Overall its a barbaric, ignorant text and is TRUMPED by Buddhism when it comes to morality. Furthermore, its conception of Earth and understanding of reality is laughable.

>Sup Forums hates Jews
>Sup Forums worships a Jew
The cognitive dissonance in this one is astonishing

Delusional

>Their view of religion comes from Marx

Whoah, I didn't know Marx came up with "God doesn't exist guys". The shit you read on Sup Forums.

Yes those that view science as infallible are indeed delusional.

Marx was by far not the first who questioned religion
also, I never said I am woke or a moral authority, that's something fedora tippers and you do

>Judeo-Christian values
there's that phrase again...

Western Civilization was founded on the European Spirit, Christianity just co-opted our pagan Gods and renamed them Saints and then proceeded to take credit for everything.

Also, atheist faggots are a nonissue as they rarely have children and when they do they are so hedonist and nihilistic they only have one.

Atheism is just a religion trying to replace another

>Judeo-Christian values
Define this. Then ask yourself if there are any other belief systems in this world, possibly older than Judeo-Christianity, that employ the same values, except without all the parts specifically about your magical sky magician.

All religions are beliefs. Not all beliefs are religion. Don't conflate them.

Religion is nothing more than a tool to used to control you

>What a meaningful argument from christlarpers
Not exactly a meaningful argument from you

>No religious person on Earth has integrity

>atheist faggots are a nonissue as they rarely have children and when they do they are so hedonist and nihilistic they only have one.

And it becomes gender queered

Atheists (Conservative ones) live under the judeo-christian values because many makes sense, not murder, not steal, respect and else. Having no faith is unrelated

I'm ok with Judeo-Christian values. I'm not ok by all the shit and baggage coming with it, like the "travelling" priest playing dicksi with the 12j old. Or nuns beating girls. And the list goes on ad infinitum.

Even if you are rather an soft-agnostic atheist or an pure Athepokemon, the problem stays that creating extendend values and living them is hard. Its much harder for the believers. Its logical that if the thing you don't like has to much baggage in the real world, you rather get rid of it completely and start with the fresh empty land.

Most people I know, maybe except those you truly believe in rebirth-cycles, have fear of death.

The question is, what you fear more: being on the wrong side of the selected imagery of "afterlife" or having choosen wrong. I have the feeling that most agnostics and half-asses atheists fear more to choosen wrong. At the end is either a bully who can do with you whatever he wishes (since he makes the rules) or its something transcendent that doesn't care about your urine dispenser occassionally slipping in someones organic waste dispenser entry.

Stop worrying about atheists and get your clergy, who were cleansed and made perfect by the Sacrament of Holly Orders, to stop fucking kids,

pol is becoming more and more paagan by the day

>tfw agnostic atheist
>tfw hate marx and all the other kikes respinsible for fucking shit up because ancestors were the kinds of people bolsheviks killed
>tfw i have no face
I'll be the first to admit that we have Christianity to thank for the best art in the world, but that is its only merit. The art was the only example of a jewish plan backfiring. After kikes had more control economically, they enslaved Christianity again.

I realised yesterday what's the problem with atheists. They're too smart for the own good. Literary. Drunk on their own intelligence and proud of it. And this pride will drag them down into Hell at the end. Because the only way to salvation is by fully humbling yourself and giving in to Christ.

>Atheists always spouting off about how woke they are ... but they all sound the fucking same.
Non-belief is unironically universal.

>and how much they value free and independent thought
We're alarmed by people who eschew free and independent thought

>Western Civilization was founded on Judeo-Christian values
It was not. Although Judaism, Islam and Christianity spread like an infection throughout the world, Athenian democracy under a republic was a distinctly Hellenistic concept. The Age of Enlightenment is the principle upon which the Modern West is founded.

>but deep down they're the most broken fucked up idiots alive.
>Look everyone! I'm projecting!

Atheists are ironically the biggest drones on earth. They promote anti-thought and only adhere to what their scientific priests tell them. They don't even use logic half the time.The moment an atheist can explain why anything exists in the first place from a scientific understanding is the moment I will give them any credit.

Also, yes, western civilization was built on Christian values. Christianity was the civilizing element. Before that, there was disorder with commonplace sacrifice, sexual degeneracy, etc. which was undeniably damaging to society. While these acts did not simply go away under Christianity, they were submerged and condemned.

Science isn't Infallible. It is fallible. it's based on fallible. It's a house with a foundation of testing itself over and over again. Many bricks sit outside the building of science, those bricks were once part of the house but were replaced by stronger bricks. Each brick can be removed at any time if they crack with far stronger bricks.

Religion is one brick. A solid structure that, while strong, can not be fixed if any one part breaks. When they break we block off that room, we pretend it doesn't exist. We know that it broke but we can't admit it. Those cracks give way to more cracks...

>the problem with atheists.
Our rational brains have developed in such a way to "suspend disbelief" to engage in brief flights of fantasy. We needed our imaginations to able to plan ahead. We needed to be able to speculate on the movements of herds, etc. Irrational thinking has some utility for very short periods and our brains are well suited for it.

However, we are not meant to suspend our disbelief for long periods of time. Living in delusions and daydreams would be the fastest path to paleolithic death.

Your irrational beliefs for extended periods are having a profound and deleterious effect on your brain's chemistry. Holding mutually-exclusive concepts without question creates a harmful cognitive dissonance. The long term effect damages your ability to think rationally. It causes insane beliebers to spout patently ridiculous nonsense like, "The universe was created by a magic sky daddy" and "Atheism is a religion", etc.

Atheism is only the non-belief in made-up gods. Any other definition is falsified and a clear symptom of degenerative brain damage.

>Judeo-Christian
Fuck off Amerikike.

I take the words of our founding fathers at face value.

>The moment an atheist can explain why anything exists in the first place
Why would a non-believer be required to explain some thing that has nothing to do with non-belief? Sounds like brain damage on the part of the believers who feel they need to falsify their definitions of atheism.

>Western Civilization was founded on Judeo-Christian values
Absolutely wrong, what an idiotic statement. Even several of the core principles of western civ (freedom of X) conflict with the most important commandment (don't worship other gods or you must die). Of all the 120ish commandments, the only ones that are kept in western civ are not to kill and not to steal, which happen to be universally adopted in all civilizations in the world (and even the ones that existed before christianity), not only the christcucked. You're dumb.

John Adams signed the treaty, but Joel Barlow actually wrote it.

If you are advocating for the lack of God, you have to be able to explain how the universe has established itself without one. If you cannot provide logical reasoning, your ideology is based a void of ignorance.

It has everything to do with non-belief.

Unless, of course, you are advocating for the definition of atheism which claims "We don't know and only seek to understand" rather than a pure and simple disbelief in God. In this case, atheist's are still ignorant, as the existence of anything in general demands supernatural origin which transcends a human understanding.

atheism is a product of the abrahamic Marxists. ,monotheism is an early version of atheism . kek is proof the ancients knew what they were doing. ancient religions are the best

>Before that, there was disorder with commonplace sacrifice, sexual degeneracy, etc.
Literally the Old Testament, everyone.

God isn't real. Oh, you're a Christian? Bet you wouldn't debate Richard Dawkins.

Atheism is the result of the rejection of all non-jewish authority. Be free goyim, you don't need a king, get in our basement.
Atheists, libertarians, commies, and all Jew tools need to be physically removed.

>judeo-Chrisdtian values.

These don't exist. There is noJudeo-christian anything. Judaism is the faith of Christ's enemies, the Pharasies, while Christianity is the faith Christ taught.

Wrong on all accounts. Do Not Murder was a difficult commandment for many European tribes to get over when mainland Europe was getting converted due to their warlike culture. Do Not Steal is lost among all Progressives, Socialists, and Communists because they don't even believe people can own things.

>they all sound the same
>that's bad because the truth and logic depends on ppls feelings

Factually correct. I don't care to look up the google relevancy chart, but "Judeo-Christian" is a 20th century kike term for inregrating with the goyim

The old testament does not promote any of this, and most violent acts are carried out by God. The old testament also happens to include the Ten Commandments which were introduced in order to provide order for God's followers.

However Christianity is in large based on the new testament, where Jesus arrives as humanity had lost its' way (Synagogue of Satan). It is primarily the teaching's of Jesus which helped create civility in the west. A complete disdain for evil, promotion for personal strength, and mercy for the lost and meek.

Please obtain a better understanding on the theology you are trying to dispute.

reminder that god fags are cucks and have a cuck based mentality

>Judeo-Christian values
Talmudism has nothing in common with Christianity. Christianity is the continuation of the religion of the ancient Israelites. Fake Jew Talmudism is a satanic larp.

Stop kiking up my Christianity, shabbos goy.

>read bible
>describes magic ritual for curing leprosy
>close bible
Understanding why sacrifice and sexual promiscuity is bad for society isn't hard and only a peasant would need it to be condemned by divine mandate.

Bump. All anti-Christian posts are shills, besides, a real atheist has no desire to speak about our justify his belief.

>If you are advocating for the lack of God,
I have no idea what you mean by "advocating for the lack" of any gods. I don't believe in your gods. I don't believe in their gods. Thousands and thousands of gods, I don't believe in any of them. But there are some born every minute who do.

>you have to be able to explain how the universe has established itself without one.
False, dilemma, specifically the ad ignorantiam fallacy. You make up a story, that in no way obligates me to make up a competing story. Especially since you can't prove any of your non sense stories exist without relying on other fallacies like binary thinking, circular reference and appeal to (divine) authority.

>your ideology is based, devoid of ignorance
Perhaps, but that has nothing to do with non-belief

>the definition of atheism
There is only one definition of atheism and it has been the same since the Ancient Greek - without gods. And in context, atheism is without belief in any gods.

says the atheist doing the bidding of his kike masters.
You know where the word "Kike" comes from moshe? Jews are so spooked by Christ they wouldn't even make an "X", they'd make kikels instead. THat is to say circles.

>Typical Atheist
youtube.com/watch?v=MgfIsrK5vYE


Atheism is for literal faggots.

Western civilisation did not exist before the end of classical antiquity, and was sparked by Christianity. Read pic related.

>Their view of religion comes from Marx
So atheism didn't exist before Marx? Wow thanks for the history lesson.

No it isn't, you tards are just louder than everyone else. Just like in the real world.

(You)
>the existence of anything in general demands supernatural origin
No it doesn't. We can explain the existence of mammal without the fairies or leprechauns.

>which transcends a human understanding.
That doesn't make any sense. If you admit you can't understand it, then why do you believe it? Do you fall for any claim you can't understand? That fallacy is called "personal credulity".

According to the Bible, the only way to become a faggot is to be so much of an edgelord atheist that you try to forget about even the concept of God. At that point God gets sick of your shit and pozzes your neghole.

I don't know who you're talking to, but most people incl. myself are atheist and definitely not in your face.
It's you now who's starting the flame war.

Go kill yourself.

>Atheists always spouting off about how woke they are

Why does black slang spread so quickly amongst American whites?

>Understanding why sacrifice and sexual promiscuity is bad for society isn't hard and only a peasant would need it to be condemned by divine mandate.
This is wrong however you want to spin it, and the proof is evident in the world around you. Without fear of punishment, most of humanity operates in a way which gives them pleasure and benefit. There is very little consideration for repercussions.

Just look at our modern United States. Even with most being Christians, they have lost respect for the Lord and will act for themselves. You ask most if acts such as sleeping around is a bad thing, and they will say it is fine. Even if they understand it is bad, they lack the strength to fight their degeneracy due to the lack of fear or punishment.

>So atheism didn't exist before Marx? Wow thanks for the history lesson.

Exactly. The fact it's been around as long as, arguably longer, than any established religion, and yet there's never been a relevant atheist empire or even country should speak volumes. Of course it doesn't because (((atheists))) just hear what they want to hear which is why they're (((atheists))). One word; sad.

>Atheism is the result of the rejection of all non-jewish authority.
Atheists fail to believe in the gods of the Abrahamic religions - the ultimate of rejection of all Jewish authority.

You're so full of shit
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_atheism

>Most people
>Barely 4% of the world population

Did you study at a university? Could explain your world view.

You should read the Bible some time Moshe.
It repeatedly names the Jew and says they are of their father the devil.
The only people Jesus ever attacked physically were the money changing kikes.
Also your party symbol has Moloch stars on it. You've been kiked so hard you can't see it.

>Understanding why sacrifice
>condemned by divine mandate.
>{{{ God commands Abraham to sacrifice child }}}
Everything you need to know about bible "morality".

>No it doesn't. We can explain the existence of mammal without the fairies or leprechauns.
In terms of how the universe exists, it absolutely does demand supernatural origin. I'm not talking about basic biology on earth.
>That doesn't make any sense. If you admit you can't understand it, then why do you believe it? Do you fall for any claim you can't understand? That fallacy is called "personal credulity".
We can understand that based on our laws, there must be a supernatural origin. The point of said supernatural origin is that we lack the capacity to understand as there is no other logical conclusion.

Get ready for the next dimension m8.
>childrenofyhwh.com/multimedia/library/Comparet/ Your Heritage.pdf

>spouts 2 lies
>these are all accounts goy
Where are all your other arguments retard? Murder and theft were illegal in Rome, Greece, Mesopotamia, China, and many more. In the current year they are still illegal in many civilizations that have nothing to do with christianity.
>Do Not Steal is lost among all Progressives, Socialists, and Communists
This is wrong and you're an idiot. How about you try to back it up with a source and stop trying to pass your opinions as facts?

Humans are stupid and pathetic. What's your point?
You aren't really arguing for anything other than manipulating the foolish. They have found new gods and don't care about you anymore.
It was just a prank bro.

Sup Forums is not a monolith

>I have no idea what you mean by "advocating for the lack" of any gods. I don't believe in your gods. I don't believe in their gods. Thousands and thousands of gods, I don't believe in any of them. But there are some born every minute who do.
If you don't believe in established Gods, that's up to you. However to say one doesn't exist is completely foolish.
>False, dilemma, specifically the ad ignorantiam fallacy. You make up a story, that in no way obligates me to make up a competing story. Especially since you can't prove any of your non sense stories exist without relying on other fallacies like binary thinking, circular reference and appeal to (divine) authority.
No. To say there is not a god, you absolutely have to explain how. It is not a matter of story, it is a matter of logic that God must exist in some form.
>There is only one definition of atheism and it has been the same since the Ancient Greek - without gods. And in context, atheism is without belief in any gods.
So again, a universe which lacks Gods is one that should not exist, one that is illogical.

My friend, what does anything in your post have to do with believing in god? All you are claiming is that christian values are good to have.

It's a lesson on obedience to authority. The kikes don't want you to obey authority, read the Protocols of Zion please.
They want you to only care about yourself and material goods so that they can slowly replace your governments and replace them with Jewish monarchy under which you will lose your precious "freedom" anyway.

>You should read the Bible some time Moshe.
I've already read it. That's precisely why I'm an atheist.

>Also your party symbol has Moloch stars on it.
Manufactured nonsense. The GOP stars are upside down because the graphics designer was not the least bit superstitious.

I like the cultural and communal side of religion, but just can't bring myself to actually believe. It's not like I'd try to use reason and be enlightened by my intellect. Religion just does not evoke any feeling in me. It does not speak to me in emonational level at all I got no idea how to describe "spitual experience" if someone asked. I can accept moral Christian teachings as good, but pretending to believe in it's supernatural side would just feel like a larp. Maybe the whole religion-thing just isn't for me.

Correction:
>but most people I KNOW incl. myself are atheist

Numbers in The Netherlands are pretty high anyway.

I'd say I'm an agnostic atheist
Agnostic = I don't know that deities exist (Gnosticism)
Atheism = I don't believe in deities (Theism)

I must admit that this poses a dilemma morality wise, because morality suddenly didn't become an absolute.
However, I believe that fundamental human morality is shared across the world, and is (I think) therefore innate.
Christians and humanists for example share a surprisingly large amount of moral values.
I guess we as a species have survived across the ages because of innate morality.

>Humans are stupid and pathetic. What's your point?
It goes to show that Christianity did create order, as the majority of the world lacks self control, intelligence, and discipline.
You just proved my point.
>{{{ God commands Abraham to sacrifice child }}}
This was a test of faith, the only example anyone ever ignorantly points to when discussing sacrifice in the Bible. God had given him a son for his faith, he wanted to see if Abraham's faith remained. This is what established the sacrifice of the lamb, when God commands Abraham to kill it instead.

Again, you lack theological understanding of what you discuss. I suggest researching more than what atheist echochambers teach you.

>However to say one doesn't exist is completely foolish.
The inductive evidence is strong. There have been thousands of gods and nearly everyone will say "the previous gods didn't exist, they weren't really gods", etc. So only the new crop of gods are the real ones? That's what you're going with? The law of parsimony suggests that if the last 3000 gods were made up, the current ones probably are too.

That was the goal of said post.

What are you doing on pol Dawkins? You should go back to writing Books bashing Christianity for the last 5 Years of your life.

>God had given him a son for his faith, he wanted to see if Abraham's faith remained.
So it was a prank.
Shit we both think Christianity is useful and we both understand Abraham but you are too stupid to realize it. You should be Christian.

An eternal God such as the Christian God makes the most sense. I personally can't advocate for other gods due to both my Christian faith and lack of knowledge on other gods. What I am saying is that a God or supernatural origin must exist according to any logical conclusion (Which is why I believe atheism to be mislead) and that Christianity has been a major benefit for western civilization.

What part of the Bible did you take issue with?
A lot of modern people don't understand God because they don't understand authority and reject it outright, the same way an angry child rejects his father's authority.

>Shit we both think Christianity is useful and we both understand Abraham but you are too stupid to realize it. You should be Christian.
"Just a prank" isn't an argument, it was a test of dedication according to Biblical understanding. I fail to see what I am not understanding here.