How do we solve the "nice guy" syndrome?

Men who try to be doormats to women in hope of getting sex, and then get bitter when they don't get any. Why do men behave like this? Are men like this also more likely to turn right wing?

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Let nature take its course. Already women have the hypergamous and baby instinct that will ensure the survival of her and her genes

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>solve the "nice guy" syndrome?
red meat.

Bad boy

Doesn't stop from bitter nice guys to shoot up schools or harass women though.

It won't.
Birth control.
Why else would there be so incredibly many childless roasties?

Don't care

Also not political

But later down in her life she might consider having kids after she had fun. Then about about this.

Let men take control of society. Give women the incentive to settle down early like they did before in the 60s. Avoid all soy and limit yourself from drinking and eating from plastics since that increases estrogen levels.

> gender relations are not political
> t. latvian intellectual

Most guys are unthoughtful liars who
Larp just to get what they want. There is no nice guy problem, because nice guys do not exist.

The men on this board are either male roasties throwing stones in glass houses or absolute unsociable dweebs.

Every man I know that gets tons of pussy, including myself, is right wing.

>Why do men behave like this?
dopamine / the lesser evolved are hard-wired to

>Why do men behave like this?
Because society teaches them to behave this way. They then get bitter when they see men acting like assholes getting laid more.

>Are men like this also more likely to turn right wing?
All men are more likely to be right wing, especially white men. From my personal experience the split is probably 50/50 among nice guys and I live in a red state, probably because young men tend to be much more liberal.

>are men like this more likely to become right wing?
Considering right wingers are more masculine and won't be treated like a dirty tampon, yes.

>wake up upside down
>make no sense

the life of an Australian

Guys who want to change from being a nice guy join the manosphere. This inevitably leads to becoming right wing.

NORMIES GET OFF MY BOARD

I was always told that the best way to get girls is to ignore them entirely and I have to say it was successful.

mommy issues.

Dont let the women in the family to raise the kid.
Comes from a former nice guy!

amazon.com/No-More-Mr-Nice-Guy/dp/0762415339

this goes into the nice guy syndrome in depth, its mainly caused by being raised by a single parent partially just a mom or having a parent whos narcissistic

>This (these?)

Considering she is white she would be a good candidate for the British Broadcasting Company

>leaf

I was like this once. It is ultimately due to lack of self-esteem I guess. The problem is, men don't actually go out and earn a living until they are 22 or so, and even then, they are subjugated into some cubicle being told what to do by a boss.

which fucking retard added red circles to this

it's because the men that are the most productive are generally also the ones with emotional filters i.e. the ones that will never ever attract a wife under current societal standards (unless it's one that just wants to golddig)

the best thing you can do is abandon the dream that you will find a wife that has basic decency and follow a plan dream that doesn't include any women

funnily enough doing your own thing and not giving a fuck about women, will get you women

> manosphere

what a fucking joke this is, just do what you want at all times regardless of what others think and you will be fine

It's a combination of multiple things.

>Emasculation of men.
>Pushing women into being narcissistic.

The MRA's and MGTOWs arn't wrong, they're just attacking back from the wrong angle.

I actually think it is right for them to get bitter. I know I was. I deserved a girl. It is just that modern life makes men physically weaker and mentally less confident. The male brain doesn't really change even though it is in modern times though. So it expects the girls to come, but they don't because modern life is unnatural and has skewed their brain and body. The gym helps, getting a job helps. Then you stop being a doormat.

The 60s!?
Come on lad..

You stop being the nice guy.

reminder this is a JIDF thread

>Because society teaches them to behave this way.

Nope. Men see that the natural order has been disturbed. They are angry for a reason. Men could fucking kill everyone. They deserve women and get angry when they don't get them. But society is now quite strange. It has put men in a box and women can play games with them.

>I deserved a girl.

Bullshit. You don't tell everyone else what you deserve. If you really believe you're deserving, you go and get one. When you're really deserving you don't have to convince everyone else.

That only works if you are 8/10 or better.

>Men who try to be doormats to women in hope of getting sex
It's hard to be not a dormat when all your life your are taught byt your parents, your schools, your media, and your religions that women are fragile little princess-godesses that are corruptedby a man's touch, hell, even looks are enough to cause offense to women.

Why do men go the nice guy route? Because they are not good looking enough to go the chad route. If you look good enough women will be perfectly fine with behaviour that they would find digusting in someone less attractive.

They LITERALLY just did a study on this

Even when controlling for others traits

Women are repulsed by responsiveness and eagerness from men

While men are attracted to responsive and eager women

God, human biology is so fucked up

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Fucking ugly.
Saged.

Do you honestly think you can keep a girl without keeping them happy? You're a moron.

This.

Empowering men to behave like assholes. I'm literally an assailed to my gf, didn't even get her a birthday present.

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Trying to get close to a woman by becoming her friend is a mistake. I don’t even know hwho told men that is the best approach, to be honest.

The problem lies with the fact that court system is set up to subsidize short sighted behavior from women via giving them a fucking payout for failing as a mother. If divorce were a nightmare scenario for women, they'd go after men who looked like father material over men who made them wet, and then they'd keep them.

>But what about those women who get stuck with horrible husbands? What about their kids?

"It might be that the purpose of your life is to serve as a warning to others." The stupidity of these women will serve as a guide to other women. It's too bad about the kids, but if we didn't want to deal with the pains of withdrawal, then we never should have taken the drug of big government.


>wanting stupid, R-selected violent deadbeats to breed

See: the black community.

No one deserves anyone

Ahh no. Firstly, I am an older man now and get all the women I want. But I am trying to remember back to when I was being used as a doormat by women. I was definitely angry that I wasn't getting any women. The fact is, it is a basic human need. These men have a right to be angry to be honest. I am speaking in a fairly complex sense, in terms of "deserve" as in, the man's brain being in its ancient instinctive state, thinking it deserves something. I think this all unravels back to ancient instincts and ancient times that should really return.

In ancient times, women didn't go to the supermarket to get meat. So men are standing around, there are girls around, they are single. He is instinctively a provider and so on. Why isn't he getting the girls? It is basically some evolutionary feeling.

Information saturation. Men are not aware of all the information that is out there that explains everything they need to know.
Men and people in general let their instincts dictate how they live their life. If there is no one telling you that you're being fucking retarded, you're not going to change.

Beta males who try to be ''nice'' have no one to slap them on the back of the head. The worst thing about them is that they're too ''nice'' for women to shut them down normally. The women are afraid of hurting their fee fees because of how ''nice'' and frail they portray themselves. All this does is make the men more resentful and pathetic.

Men don't deserve anything. You have to work to get anything

Link to study please? Interesting

Shes not white

Just saying

Right wing men have significantly more sex in their lifetimes with more women than liberal “men” do

Women don’t like effeminate men

No it is more complex. You guys don't really understand. In ancient times, men didn't have to go to the gym to look good. So there is this mental disconnect. The guy still thinks he should be getting the girl, but modern society has made things that just came naturally, things that you now have to work for, and so on.

Women have always been narcissistic

how is a relationship between to human beings political. please explain you dumb spaghetti nigger.

>I don’t even know hwho told men that is the best approach, to be honest.

it's a combo if women saying stuff like how they want a nice guy or they want to marry their best friend etc. Then for a lot of men you can either be around that chick as a friend or take a shot knowing if it fails odds are you will not be around her anymore. For guys that are decent looking or use to talking to women we accept that risk to reward. Also another women out there some where.
If you're some aspie dude not use to being around females at all the rare one that talks to you in the first place seems like this unicorn level creature. I think most guys in the pure friend zone, who don't want to be, were never realistic about their chances in the first place.

I'm not surprised younger generation of men in the western world are angry. The sexual revolution really did skew the sex market towards the top ~5% of men looks-wise, while most are sitting there, masturbating to chinese cartoons, since they are pretty much as real as the possibility of getting laid with a real woman.

You don't have to work. You can just inherit money. So not sure what you are talking about.

Also jobs are dependent on things like the economy. Older people hording jobs, etc.

Modern life has changed everything. So what you have is young guys who have a basic need and a pretty pissed off that it isn't being met. People will help them. They get some guidance. "Go to the gym" etc. It all helps. But that is the way it is.

I understood you auscunt. I agree that the natural order has been disturbed. I like looking at this issue from an historical/biological standpoint. There are things that humans have done in the past that made us who we are. Hunt, kill, tribal war. These instincts are alive and well. I would argue that considering our wealthy standard of living, our brains trick ya into thinking we have been successful at these endeavors, even though most males don’t even know what it’s like to be punched in the face. The bottom line is that most have done nothing to deserve the food they eat.. much less a slab of fuckmeat

>Men who try to be doormats to women in hope of getting sex, and then get bitter when they don't get any.

This isn't even how it is. They feel led on by women. The women keep their hopes up so they keep getting the attention. Then the guy gets pissed off, and rightly so, that he has been misled and used.

That is how I remember it.

yeah that is pretty much it. Feelings and reality not matching.

How do I solve me not being able to interact with people?

>So men are standing around, there are girls around, they are single. He is instinctively a provider and so on. Why isn't he getting the girls? It is basically some evolutionary feeling.
I think this is pretty spot-on.

Modern men get educated, got to work, establish themselves a bit, gain some stability in life, gain moderate wealth, and their instincts are telling them "Hey, I can provide, I'm productive member of my community, I have some social status, why am I not getting laid?". Something does not compute.

In the hunter-gatherer societies humans lived for most of history if you were a decent hunter, could cooperate with others and had some status in your tribe you would get laid. Not today though.

I've thought this very often as someone who drank the liberal kool-aid until age 25. I'm still in recovery from the jew-american diet and lifestyle, I was always such a pussy when it came to women and pretty much been a perpetual loser until now. Now I understand how life is supposed to be - the problem is how do you reconcile that with our modern lives?

It is the same as men using women for sex and pretending that they will turn the relationship into something more serious. Then the girl gets annoyed because she realises nothing other than sex will come from the relationship.

Birth control and careerism.
In grad school I knew a lot of great girls who were smart, competent, hard working. well mannered. They would have been great wives and mothers. But they didn't have time for relationships, kids, life in general. It was sad,

yeah that is exactly what I am thinking.

newsweek.com/study-finds-men-nice-women-not-other-way-around-261269

Check it out

Women just are not interested in responsive men

And unfortunately, most nice men are responsive & kind

Sometimes I feel a desire to eat somebody's pussy for nothing, just want to make the woman feel good.
Am I some sort of nice guys?

The thing is, if you befriend a woman, most of the time she’ll think you only want to be her friend. It won’t ever cross her mind that the guy want something more. This happened to me at least twice.

How about we fix western women first? They're the reason that society is coming apart at the seams.

Completely true. Getting laid 101: Don't be fat, take a shower, place yourself in easy social proximity to women, let her catch you looking at her tits, resist all biological urges and turn off that part in your brain where you actually care if the woman likes you. The proper place for her in your head is a friendzoned piece of meat.

That realization was a big turning point in how women approached me. It was like a switch. Women went from grimacing at my attention to flirting, shoving their tits in my face, and following me around.

Fucked up indeed.

And that happens because good-looking men are spoiled by being given sex by women left and right. Why would a desirable male that can get a different partner every day settle down? What's the incentive?

When the only socially accaptable way fo getting sex was marriage both men and women had to play the game of mutual commitment to get what they want. But that has been clearly broken for a while now.

Not quite

Women do not see money as “social status”. It’s just a resource.

Engineers are not slaying pussy.

Status to women means popularity and the ability to treat others like shit because they feel like it.

You people always project your own insecurities onto the right.
You just described a beta orbiter/soyboy, who is left wing by default
A right wing man who is offered sex and turns it down due to the poor moral character of the woman is the farthest thing from this
Please stop projecting your own insecurity/failure onto us, k thx bye

Disgusting.

I disagree, they've typically displayed a degree of humility when with a dominant man. Problem is the kike media has emasculated white men, pumped up the dominance of non-white men.

So it's no wonder why they freak out when a white male, like Trump for example, displays his dominance.

They're perfectly fine with muslims throwing fags off a building. But if a white male says "Grab em by the pussy" then they lose their minds.

Pls no fightin everyones white ok?

Except me im mutt

Brrrrrrrraaaaaaaappppttttfffff

>Why do men behave like this?
Because they don't have anything else to offer but "being nice". Of course no one wants that shit.

True to an extent. But I'd define it slightly differently. Part of the value of a man to a woman is the "ability to produce". And that product can take many shapes, money is the most obvious, but men can prove to be able to generate wealth in many ways, through leading other men, through being a visionary, through creating trends, by being a teacher, and so on.

I think money kinda breaks that, since it decouples the ability to produce wealth from wealth itself.

>her genes
>has a baby that looks nothing like her
>grandchildren look and act nothing like her

I suggest frowning too

Research has found that smiling men are the LEAST attractive to women. Ashamed men look more attractive.

But angry/brooding men are consistently rated as the most attractive.

I get much more ass now since I don’t smile like a dork anymore.

Smiling is a submissive expression anyway.

Beta as fuck

>Why do men behave like this?

The problem is men being raised by women and being programmed into being a little beta servant.

They need to be redpilled by chad dads.

my burger senses are tingling, show your flag mutt

Women want a guy with a big dick. If you don't have one your better off killing yourself to save yourself trouble

Not going to happen. Today females usually stop being fertile in their mid 30's. Most of these thots won't figure this out until it's to late.

Gas the females, gender war now.

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But now it's encouraged.

Women are more concerned with providing ability when they’re not ovulating or pregnant.

But you are right about creation of value. Men ultimately are concerned with a woman being beautiful & healthy. Women are risking everything when they breed with a man.

If he’s a pussy? She’ll get eaten by wolves

If he’s weak? She’ll starve without meat

If he’s unpopular? Nobody will back him in a fight or hunting

Genotype =/= Phenotype expression

Women who get dumped by alphas and fail to find a beta cuck will commit emotional incest with their sons

They will find that their jobs will never love them.

There's desperate nice guy, and there's a confident guy who happens to be nice

We need to make more cum tributes of thots to humiliate them. Starting with girl in OPs pic.

let's be honest for a second
the "nice guy" syndrome is basically the "ugly boi" syndrome
Can't really blame women for it as men do the exact same to any pushy woman that doesn't fit their taste

>Let's create whiteskinned Africa
What could go wrong

usually lack of strong male role models. They're raised by women with no dad or a dad who is always at work or something. Never learns that kissing and sex don't just happen, the man has to initiate them.

The main thing that allows them to do this is the realization that there are a TON of women out there, and so rejection from any one of them doesn't really matter at all.