Sell me on what we should buy. We are hiking our defense spending by 33% in the next 4yrs according to our new right-wing government, so we got some money for new jets.
F-35: probably too expensive, although I understand Denmark gets them and they are poorer and smaller than us
Used F-16: that was the original option we looked at, cheap, reliable, nice little planes
Saab Gripen: cheap, good in snow, from a neutral country
The French Rafale: pretty expensive, it's French, but flies well and does the job... but it is French
F-18: not cheap at all, especially new, could get old ones from the US though, but they are falling apart in a few years
>although I understand Denmark gets them and they are poorer and smaller than us smaller yes but richer you are 9 million to ours 5 and you only have 20% higher nominal GDP.
Jaxon Sanchez
need them for what
Luis Butler
>Used F-16: that was the original option we looked at, cheap, reliable, nice little planes what the fuck? You really are poorfags arent you? jesus
James Morales
Buy the Gripen. The best choice that Brazil has made in recent times was to buy this plane.
SAAB has also started a 5 generation project that the Brazilian government intends to participate in, we're looking for partners to develop the aircraft and reduce costs. :3
Brandon Gray
>smaller yes but richer >you are 9 million to ours 5 and you only have 20% higher nominal GDP.
Denmark, population of 5.8 million people, GDP of 306 billion USD
Austria, population of 8.6 million people, GDP of 390 billion USD
So yes, 30% higher nominal GDP while having 40% the higher population.
Point still stands, Denmark gets 27 F-35s, we could too.
David Campbell
Harrier.
Tyler Smith
If you're buying anything but F-35's you're retarded. If you buy Gripen's at least they're new and you can pretend its a political ties move.
Cooper Ward
>need them for what Feel good and safe? Bomb Liechtenstein? Escort American bombers through our territory when they breach our air security by carrying nukes to Italy without asking like during the Iraq war - it was our Luftwaffe's finest moment.
Juan Clark
>Harrier. To land on Alpine mountain tops?
Wyatt Lee
Get some F-15s. Best combat record of any plane.
Xavier King
>27% higher GPD >50% higher population stop trying to make your numbers look better than they are. Poorfag >Point still stands, Denmark gets 27 F-35s, we could too. sure although you had to make bigger sacrifices than us since you are poorer. It might not be wroth it.
Caleb Nelson
>If you're buying anything but F-35's you're retarded. We bought the Eurofighter in the past. We didn't even consider the F-35 back then (I think the decision was in 2001 or 2002). We only looked at the F-16, the Gripen, the Eurofighter and the Mig-29. The Russians pushed hard and would have basically gifted us those Migs including a few nukes as an add-on.
Nicholas Wood
More that the Harriers were good jets that didn't deserve what they got.
Josiah Allen
Mig 35
Alexander Reed
Brazil passed up Flankers for the Gripen that has less range and load than the Falcon.
Only thing that turns people off from the Flanker is how much the Russians charge for spare parts
Leo Lopez
Who makes this kind of thread on christmas? Spend time with your family you autists
Jordan Wright
Would suck it up and get f-35's. The integration and battlefield awareness that plane brings is irreplaceable
David Wright
Lol, "get F15", posts picture of F14..
Gripen is the only reasonable choice if EF2000 is too expensive.
Oliver Johnson
% higher GPD % higher population 48% higher population. GDP is nominal, which is the right metric to use when looking at buying F-35s from America.
But calling us poorfags, when our GDP is actually the same on a PPP basis, is literally retarded.
>you had to make bigger sacrifices than us since you are poorer. It is a smaller sacrifice when you have a higher nominal GDP, dude.
Jace Barnes
How are you supposed to conquer Europe with only 33% hike?
Blake Morris
Like a Finn would know American aircraft.
Sebastian Long
Eurofighters are so ugly. They should an get f-18, f-22, or an f-15 or f-16 if they’re feeling cheap. Some Russian birds aren’t too shabby. Do not get the overly expensive f-35 unless you want to do stealth bomber type missions. The f-35 is completely useless in a dogfight.
Brandon Young
>get F-15s >shows pic of F-14
Owen Hall
Iranian Q-313 is pretty dope
Jacob Ross
>Who makes this kind of thread on christmas? It is 9pm. We just came back from a wonderful walk through the inner city.
Also, Austrians celebrate Christmas on the 24th, the 25th is for rest and eating leftovers and recovering from the celebrations on the 24h.
Robert Jenkins
Anything but the F-35 won't be a significant upgrade. The Eurofighter is still a reasonable option for 4th gen.
Aaron Powell
>48% higher population so you admit you tried to make it look better than is was :^) >But calling us poorfags, when our GDP is actually the same on a PPP basis, is literally retarded not really southern scum. >It is a smaller sacrifice when you have a higher nominal GDP, dude nah because you also need more planes than us. We bought around 30 for now. You would need around 44 to match.
Nicholas Nelson
Parameters?
Luke Moore
>Pic titled F-14 >pic of F-111 Get your shit together people.
Wyatt Anderson
>How are you supposed to conquer Europe with only 33% hike? Dude, 33% is a shitton for us. Our uniforms were falling apart, our tanks are full of rust and our soldiers are literally killing themselves because we hand them aspirin to cure depression.
Asher Williams
F-35s
If Germany spergs out and tries another Anschluss you'll be fucked
William Ortiz
>Saab Gripen: cheap, good in snow, from a neutral country
Dirt cheap. Superior communication (5 planes fight like 1 homogeneous squad). Superior maintenance (can be serviced from a truck on a strip of road). Perfectly adapted for defensive guerrilla warfare against superior forces. No (((strings))) attached.
Owen Sullivan
Spend the money on the neu austrians
Jayden Reed
Sukhois or GTFO
Jeremiah Stewart
This belongs on /k/
Chase Reyes
>The Eurofighter is still a reasonable option for 4th gen. Might be, but our military literally says it is a shit plane which is why we want new ones. If we get the Eurofighters AGAIN, it is kind of a fucked up move, don't you think?
Brandon Cox
Austria needs to be nuked. Fucking freemasons.
Aaron Murphy
F-35B would be your guys' best bet. STOVL is inherently more useful and would work even in the Alpines
Charles Stewart
Russia should not defend anyone in EU. Fuck em.
Nathan Butler
LOL
Colton Martin
Op is a faggot
Brayden Butler
This should be the only plane in consideration.
Liam Sanders
what's the anticipated purpose of these planes
Luis Brown
>We bought around 30 for now. You would need around 44 to match. We are fine with like 24 or so. It is not like we need to bomb anyone, we just need to make pictures with them.
Josiah Cruz
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Grayson Price
>2002
vintage
Ian Nelson
>(((F-35B)))
Massive costs. Requires military superiority to remain operational. More fragile than the white american majority. (((Amerimutt))) strings attached.
Sebastian Cruz
You mean the flipping over and crashing? Or the melting if the runways Or the blowing up dust clouds to clog their own intakes?
Julian Sanders
BAE systems Taranis
Justin Flores
>not buying the most AESTETHIC jet out there
Elijah Powell
>Spend the money on the neu austrians Unlike Germany, we are based now. Our new government wants to deport ALL new Austrians. Not to mention they just agreed to make it impossible for illegals and asylum seekers to get citizenship... even after 30 years.
Jonathan Howard
You fuckwits falling for buying new planes in this day in age. The absolute state of the goyim.
Josiah Wood
oh my days, shut the fuck up you cucked roleplayer we would fuck you up in 2 days if we wanted a scandicuck is gonna talk to austria about war, because their cucked military industrial complex got jewed by americans LMAO fuck outta here
James Watson
Love them Tomcats Damn Dick Cheney for scrapping them.
Only if they pay for all the other electronics systems REQUIRED to make that happen.
It's like saying buy the Samsung smart fridge so you have a smart home. And sure you get some cool stuff on the fridge, but you need the AC system, washer dryer, robot cleaner, TV, and alarm system with compatible front door to have the smart phone
Camden Evans
Gripens or just buy some advanced trainers and put some basic missiles on them. You wont be able to get anything else in any useful numbers.
Bentley Thompson
Ah the Queefir is a major 21st century gen 6 threat.
Austin Miller
>memeflag post disregarded
Charles Russell
You mean the public lie sheet? Or the actual specs
>vintage IT is the only thing our airforce had to do in the last 20yrs. It was in all our newspapers when those Drakens intercepted those F-117s. The pilots were greated as heroes on the Heldenplatz (Plaza de los Heroes). It took as 3 days to draft our diplomatic letter to America and approve it in parliament after a lengthy debate.
Logan Morris
If Austrian Defense Ministry is smart they will go with the F-16 Block 70...
Jose Martin
an immigrant as well, fuckin lmao and you're posting gdp stats you refugeecuck? LMAO
Jackson Davis
This plane is the best at bombing sandniggers and niggers. That's the only thing European armies will do in the next 50 years.
Kevin Gray
>tips hat It worked on more than just me senpai
Samuel Allen
>fuck up >post again to make it look like you were trolling No.
Nolan Russell
P38 would be the based choice
Easton Reed
Right. Because there’s nothing political about weapon systems purchases.
Aiden Thompson
>an immigrant as well, fuckin lmao what on earth are you on about? 100% dansk svinekoed here you pathetic southern nigger.
Luke Moore
EF typhoon best all purpose aircraft
Xavier Miller
>french > bombing sandniggers you don't know how to bomb sandniggers
Levi Williams
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Robert Lewis
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Isaiah Brooks
Take your Jew-baiting bullshit and push it up your cock jizz twizzler.
John Gonzalez
> friends of (((armenian))) minister, that can not give less of a fuck about Russian culture, wealth, lives or any kind of other interests > constantly bitches about (((armenians))) being not cared about well enough by Russians and not dying massively enough You are not Russian friends. Russian Federation is just a puppet of EU - its defence strawman, that will take all the blame for all the military actions and die for the masons. This needs to stop. And the ending can begin with nuking the fuck out of Austria.
Benjamin Sullivan
Our debt is a bit inflated. We have quite some rescued banks which have like 40bn in debt... but they also got like 35bn in assets. Those will all be sold off in the next years.
John Diaz
Tell that to Kadhafi
Michael Russell
Gripen all the way. Ticks all the boxes for a dependable and capable modern fighter-bomber. Also used by a number of your (soon to be if not already) far-right neighbors. When you all team up to invade France and Germany, and overthrow the commies in Brussels, a common aiframe will come in handy.
Daniel Torres
>f35 cant dogfight This meme needs to die. The people that say that have never worked on a flight line let alone the f35. The f35 could never drop a bomb or shoot down an aircraft and still be a complete success.
Blake Parker
what is austria
Anthony Smith
SAABs would be good for Canada, developped by a lovely and smart people with a similar climate to ours, if only we weren't so cucked by the USA with their shitty F35 fighters
Nicholas Bennett
>EF typhoon best all purpose aircraft Those are the planes we are getting rid of after 10yrs of only tears and problems and getting shit from Airbus. They underperformed in every possible respect. We could have kept flying our based old Swedish Draken instead, which was also beautiful and fucking loud!
Lucas Perez
Considering that in some 5 or 10 years from now, we will be training Achmeds and Mohammeds to fly these jets in our military, maybe pic related would be the best choice.
Jeremiah Phillips
The US doesn’t export those dude. Hell, they don’t even build them anymore even if they did export them.
Michael Bell
>being this deluded
stand back baguette anal inserter.
Jace Gutierrez
They're just angry faggots paid to spread disinfo. The F-35 is currently flying in a restricted flight envelope, it's only at 65 to 70 percent of what it is capable of, once all tags are off and it is given the green light, it will show what it is capable of.
Luke Miller
Southern european meme country and entrypoint for refugees heading north.
Christopher Miller
silly cucked meme responses don't really work when france had a "war on terror" after bataclan which did literally nothing to isis
Jose Martin
typhoon easily best aircraft
Blake Young
>i dont understand memes because im fucking retarded
Oliver Hill
>Eurofighter That's an oxymoron.
Leo Campbell
It's French, I assume the electronic warfare system is a baguette covered in motor oil
Jaxson Cooper
this
Evan Foster
Nelsonhaha.jpeg There are 2 legit reasons not to buy the f35, price and our backdoor access.
