/cg/ Christianity General - Come And Celebrate Christmas With Us; Edition!

What is the significance of Christmas?

Jesus Christ was born, the incarnate Son of God because of our creators Love for mankind, that through the ultimate sacrifice of his son (Remember, this isnt a normal man who sacrificed himself for our sins - but perfect (sinless) God incarnate who died an excruciating death at the cross on our behalf, that our sins could be forgiven of us and that we could be saved through Christ's sacrifice. based Jesus would later rise from the dead (on the Third day, according to the scriptures) and as such triumph over death itself - so that through him, we may know not only forgiveness for and freedom from our sins, but eternal life itself.

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him" John 3:16-17

If one is to accept Jesus Christ as their savior, to repent of their sins genuinely and accept the ultimate forgiveness of their sins through Christ, and to do their best to live a wholesome Christian life, that they too may receive eternal life through Jesus Christ!

ITT: All pious Christians and those with an interest in the faith are welcome to discuss all aspects of Christianity!

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Quick Rundown:

>But user, why would god love me or want anything to do with me? I’ve never been to church and/or I’ve done degenerate and/or truly terrible things in my life!

We can get past that, fellow user! Consider the following:

>Now it happened, as He was dining in Levi’s house, that many tax collectors and sinners also sat together with Jesus and His disciples; for there were many, and they followed Him. And when the scribes and Pharisees saw Him eating with the tax collectors and sinners, they said to His disciples, “How is it that He eats and drinks with tax collectors and sinners?” When Jesus heard it, He said to them,“Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.” Mark 2 15-17

You see, it is not too late to repent of your sins and seek the love of God in your life.

ITT, we come together, and will help each other in any way that we can, so that we too might find inner peace, a meaningful relationship with Christ and more importantly - eternal life through his grace and salvation!

For we are all lost, and previously-lost souls here in this fallen world, however if we choose to accept Christ into our lives, we will receive his Salvation, guidance, blessings and love, and timeless wisdom from his teachings.

>Sounds great, user! How should we do this?

Well, if you’re new here, I would start reading the Bible in the book of Matthew, the first book of the New Testament, which is when Christ enters the scene! You can purchase this Study Bible fairly inexpensively on Amazon:

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One can also find this study bible in the form of a free .pdf through a quick search online!

These two things will get you off to a great start! I assure you that whatever you’ve done in this life, it can be forgiven of you. Christ was sent to us on this earth to pay the ULTIMATE sacrifice for our sins and transgressions so that we may know true happiness and eternal life, and something greater than the emptiness and evil found in this world.

I truly believe that God has a plan for each and every one of you reading this, that he loves you, and is “knocking at the door” to our hearts hoping to receive our acceptance of him into our lives…

This thread is here for the discussion of all aspects of the faith by all Pious Christians and inquirers who are of course always welcome. What’s on your mind tonight, my brethren?

What's a good way to help convince family members who are Catholic to stop idolizing false idols and accept Jesus Christ as their LORD and savior?

what's so great about teaching morals, social cohesion, and submission to authority using metaphor? don't you think people should be educated instead of dumbed down?

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>For God so loved the world
What exactly does he love about it?

Well, first let me say that I respect all pious Christians, Catholics included, but on the same token, the Church that I go to (Orthodox) is mostly made up of converts (I'm a converted Fedora; but likely our largest group is former-catholics).

So, on that note - if I were going to minister to someone in another denomination, I would speak to them as best as I could out of Love for them, not condemnation or bitterness.

>Here, I read "The Orthodox Way" and I thought you might like it, so I got you a copy to check out if you're interested. And here's an Orthodox calendar - I know its almost January so you probably already have a calendar, but look how beautiful these churches are on the pages! And theres a verse or two for every day - so you can look it up and keep it in mind that day if you like"

instead of:

>Dont you know that _____ is a heresy?!? What is wrong with you, you see this there every week. If you werent so dense, you'd find a better church like....

I'm not saying dont correct people - please do - but be gentle about it. Perhaps you might consider everything that you like about your church if it is better than theirs - and think about how you wish someone would've told you about your church when you first thought of going.

Then, maybe work that "speech" into something you could relate to them. I hope this helps!

Jesus is right about not being baited by the wicked ones. All they know is hate and spite. They are pathetic really. Not bowing to them was a truly heroic act. It's a pity they are still with us, in greater numbers than ever.

Church was dead today...

The old community of generations who went there is dying out. Only a handful of the people of my generation, where we all went, had confirmation etc. turned up. The pews were mostly empty.

5 years ago you struggled to get a seat...

It is interesting, that the stereotype of "dumb Christians" is so prevelant. I remember this from my fedora-days around 09' or so, and I see regularly that it is still going. I know my Church has a library of hundreds, possibly thousands of books about Church History and Christianity as it relates to the world. We have many well studied people there, a large number that speak multiple languages and even some that study Latin.

Secular society for the most part has none of these things, one can attest to the volume of intellect there by turning on the TV or listening to modern pop music, yet we're the "dumb" ones.

That was a little bit of a rant, sorry to go down that road with you.

Anyway, there is no metaphor, its real. Its more real than the computer that I'm typing this on, or the building that I'm in right now. Around November 2016 I developed an interest in the faith, and ultimately accepted Jesus Christ into my heart, and repented of my sins one night. I was so free and felt so loved. My entire chest area was almost burning and I cried like an infant for about the first time in my adult life. It was amazing.

I ended a years long rift in my family. I got a wholesome new Church family. I'm happier than I've ever been. Its been amazing.

Do you want to discuss "realness" of things? I'll do anything that I can to help you have the same experience, if you want this in your life, my friend.

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NEWS! NEWS! Christ IS born today! Christ has died, Christ has risen, Christ HAS come again. This IS the second coming. For more details see the Happening of happening thread.

Well, many things I'm sure - for instance, we are his creation, his children. We were created in his image and many would say this is because it is not possible for one to be truly happy without someone to love - for this God created us, so that we could have a meaningful, mutual relationship with him. But in order for this relationship to be meaningful, it must be chosen (by us, God loves us always and desires for us to be saved even when we fall short in this world, but although he will never give up on us, we have the option to give up on and turn away from him) and not forced, for what value would this relationship be if we could do none other than worship him and follow him as mindless drones incapable of anything else?

So that we would be able to choose God, and his love, and to follow him - we must also be able to choose not to - this is the concept of free will which so many among us (and even ourselves sometimes, regrettably) choose to use for evil.

"The traveller along the spiritual way, the further he advances, becomes increasingly conscious of two contrasting facts - of the otherness and yet the nearness of the Eternal. In the first place he realizes more and more that God is Mystery" -Passage from "The Orthodox Way"

>It is interesting, that the stereotype of "dumb Christians"
On the contrary, you're pretty clever to pull this off for so many centuries, you could put that intelligence to use and start teaching people to take responsibilities for their actions because of consequences and empathy and not via allegories that involve deities... this is the dumbing down; maybe 2000 years ago teaching this way was necessary. "Reality" disguised as faith is a neet trick. By the way, my
"fedora days" were spent as a christian, grew out of it many years ago, the religious out of body experience was amazing though, but it's just a state of mind/emotion imposed by yourself.

>While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage.

2 Peter 2:19

Merry Christmas, fellow Christianon

I'm aware of the decline of many Protestant churches, it is always sad to see people turning from God.

But I'm only aware of it through second and third hand reports - my church was packed full, as were the Christmas Eve services yesterday. We have large, young families and people from all sorts of other denominations who converted.

user, I'm sorry to hear that the Church where you started isnt doing so well, I can only imagine that its a bummer having memories there from old and everything - but just know that if you're interested - you're always welcome at an Orthodox church.

Either way, Merry Christmas fellow Christianon!

We're not pulling anything off, user, we're only here to Glorify our Savior and King, and to enjoy eachothers fellowship.

I just tried to answer your question, but it seems like maybe you're not interested in my answer.

What are you here looking for today, user?

Whatever it is, just remember that God loves you even as you turn your back unto him, and that the door will open for you anytime in this life if you decide to knock.

"The Church gives us not a system, but a key. Not a plan of God's city, but the means of entering it"

>Fr. Georges Flovorsky

Really weird people still in this day and age takes any religion seriously. Supernatural overlord wants to dictate your life? Are people not having enough problems having natural overlords telling you what you can't do?

I once thought along the same lines, user, but when I started reading the Gospel (Book of Matthew specifically), I understood that people follow God not out of fear but of love. For God loves us, he desires that all men shall be saved.

Our "supernatural overload" comforts us when we suffer, is there for us in times of despair, and through his word and his power guides us through the best life that we can live here on earth. For he is

"More affectionate than any friend,
More Just than any ruler
More loving than any father
More a part of us than our own limbs
More necessary to us than our own heart"

>Nicolas Cabasilas

MERRY CHRISTMAS, ANONS!

Is it really true that Protestantism is basically a "shoot-off" of Catholicism and that they retained most of the core Catholic doctrines and traditions?

only things like lutheranism and anglicanism are close to catholicism theology wise really.

MERRY CHRISTMAS, FELLOW CHRISTIANON!!

Let us all pray that those ITT will find the Salvation and love of God, for the ultimate gift this season is the one which is available to everyone and costs us not even a penny.

Its a slightly bigger picture

>independent baptists
l o l

Ephesians 2:8-9

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Went to church last night, before mass there is half an hour of carol singing, it had started when I got there. During the singing, the parish priest was walking around and singing the loudest, he touched me on my shoulder during the carol singing and acknowledged me. I felt like my presence was appreciated. The priest knows that I only become Catholic this year, and drifted for a months before coming back, and doing reconicilation too.

Merry Christmas, folks

What is the Orthodox argument against Catholics?

Merry Christmas to you too.

I'm not really Christian myself, I'm gay and I can't manage to convince in the existence of God from the ontological point of view.

I do respect the Christian lifestyle though, eould live up to it if someone presented me with a clear cut argument for belief.

I'll start reading Mere Christianity this week, /lit/ told me it was based and good.

Also, Merry Christmas anons.

Catholics don't attend muslim friendship dinners.

Come, my light, and illumine my darkness
Come, my Life and revive me from death
Come, my Physician, and heal my wounds
Come, flame of divine love, and burn up the thorns of my sins, kindling my heart with the flame of thy love
Come, my king, sit upon the throne of my heart and reign there!
For thou alone art my King and my Lord"

>Prayer by St. Dimitri of Rostov, a 17th century Russian Bishop

Beautiful, Merry Christmas!

MERRY CHRISTMAS MY BROTHERS!

Good! I'm sure God also of course appreciates your presence, and longs that you will live a wonderful Christian life. Isnt this day so much more great with its true meaning? Merry Christmas, user :)

Merry Christmas my friend!!!!!

Well, for many of us - it is the fact that they have a (fallible, IMHO) pope. Also many take issue with the fact that their Priests arent allowed to marry, and ours are. Some say that this is why we dont have the scandals that the Catholics have/had. There are of course many other things (like the Catholic belief in Purgatory, for example), also

user, I feel terrible. I re-approached Christianity early in 2017, and did what I could to drain my old bitterness. I saw clearly how overcome with pride and baseness I had become, and I was ashamed. I began to change, and learn, and pray again. But over the summer, I just stopped it all and went back to my old ways. I remember feeling distinctly numb about it. And so I started sliding back into my hedonism -- drinking heavily throughout the week, promiscuity, cynicism, self-hatred, and doubt.

I feel stuck. I know that the principal of the gospel is that if you have faith you will be redeemed, but I feel incapable of faith. What do?

God is the only logical conclusion of most fields of philosophy. Free will can not exist without God. I don't think you've tried hard enough.

Also, we don't believe God's word and the Bible because of "evidence". We do it because of its power and because salvation is through faith, not through absolute empirical knowledge. That wouldn't require much faith.

Thank you! Its alright user, God loves the sinner and hates the sin, he desires that all men should be saved, including you and I and everyone else, of course.

Well, Olivier Clement once said that "God is not exterior evidence, but the secret call within us".

What I always ask is - instead of searching for God - perhaps you might consider letting God reveal himself to you? If you would consider reading the book of Matthew (where Jesus is born) with an open mind and accepting Jesus into your heart, you would be putting yourself where many/most of us started our spiritual Journeys...

I've never read it personally, user, but I hope that you will enjoy it and I'll pray for you, on your journey that we might all grow closer to the Love of our God.

Merry Christmas, my friend :)

agnostic and no christian education here
I have a question
at the time of jesus, eccentric preachers like him were a very common sighting
how come it was decided that jesus was more right than any other?
how come it was decided that him and only him was sent by god?
when he died a martyr?
doesn't that sound a bit unfair to all other preachers who maybe had pretty good spiritual opinions aswell but just didn't piss the jews enough?

MERRY CHRISTMAS FELLOW CHRISTIANONS!!!!

I see.
Thank you for the advice.

>how come it was decided that jesus was more right than any other?

I think it is because Jesus performed miracles, those gave him more credibility than the other preachers at the time. I mean the only way you could have convinced the people of old was through miracles.

>tfw is illegal to purge drunkards, stoners, fags, hookers, Mudshits, Jews and other degenerate heretics.

It is the fault of the Devil and the evil and the fleshly pleasures of this world that we all sometimes fall short, but the important thing is, that we pick ourselves back up again and again, no matter how many times that it takes.

user, from what I can see, it looks like you might be in need of a comrade to turn to in your fight against darkness. Do you have a church that you regularly attend? I'm lucky in that if I was to struggle with things, I could take whatever was causing me to fall short to my priest, and he would listen to me, and help me, offer encouraging words of scripture and support and quotes from the saints, or from various theologians, and provide good advice to help me through the situation.

I would recommend trying to find someone like this, or turning to them if you already have them. Perhaps a friend, a family member. If you dont have a priest or a pastor, any leader from any good church near you should in any case help you, and listen to you and not turn you away. Perhaps you email a local church and simply tell them that you're struggling with your faith and need some help, they will be there for you. We're all in this together, user.

Additionlly, I'd recommend prayer. Deep prayer, as deep and focused as you can. Repent of your sins, and turn from them. Ask Jesus to guide you and give you strenght, to help you through these things, and to show you the way to becoming a better Christian!

And lastly - whatever is causing you to stumble, get rid of it. For ridding youself of things which lead you to sin is what many believe Jesus spoke of in Matthew 5:30:

"If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell"

I'm a pretty spiritual person
But I can't deny science
To me making the blinds see, curing leprosis in 5 seconds or walking on water can only be bullshit
I guess that's where faith comes in

I fail to see the bible and jesus as anything but allegories but I believe they are good ones if that counts...

What keeps my motivated is to learn more Bible and understand more about God's word, to have a firm grasp of important doctrines, etc. So I listen to lots of sermons and read lots of Scripture. That keeps me motivated to stay in the faith. The power of God's word is amazing... so if you really ingrain yourself in Scripture and doctrine, that's gonna help a lot.

Remember when the Roman soldiers were about to go and arrest Jesus? Then they return with empty hands, and the Pharisees go, "HEY, WHY DIDN'T YOU BRING JESUS BACK?" And their short answer says it all: "Never man spake like this man". They were literally incapable of arresting Jesus because of the power of his words.

Whenever I gain a firm grasp of some doctrine that I've struggled with I feel great. It really keeps you going.

1. Rabbi Yeshua was a jew.

2. All 12 of his apostles (propagandists) were jews.

3. The reason europe still has remnants of christianity is because of the naive retard emperor Constantine's arbitrary whims.

4.Platonism for the masses is an easy sell, all peasants want to hear that eternal hedonism awaits them as long as they do the bidding of the shifty heeb that whispers in their ear and tells them to subvert, pervert and destroy their nation to appease jewish law.

5. The spread of christianity in europe was no different than the spread of islam in arabia, psychotic mass delusion spread via violence and deceit by hopeful masses who were lied to by the OG heebs that started this offshoot of judaism.

6. Christianity is no different from old testament judaism, aside from the few laws that were done away with. It's the same prophets, same laws restated, same stories, same worship of jewish history, only this time for goyim as well.

7. Apostle Paul says all "christians" are accepted into the tribe of the jews via a "spiritual" circumcision.

8. The reward for all white people who LARP as jews and submit their soul to an evil spirit is the same hell they wish for others. Cease the madness, save your bretheren from the lies of YHWYH.

Thank you

Is there any scripture or prophecies that say whites make out of our current predicament alive? I hope it’s God’s will but I want to know for certain he’ll guide us out of this mess.

Pharisees begone. Your lies and deception have no place in the Church and temple of the Holy God.

Christianity/judaism has only itself to blame for its rejection in the advanced world.

It's very fitting that subsaharan africa and latin america are the inheritors of christianity - retarded superstition for retarded superstitious people.

Christianity/judaism will die a slow death in Europe. Do not feel sorry about falsehood being left behind and reformed

Show attention to your family, show that excess love to them instead

God doesn't care what become of you you worthless roach
Only you have the power in your hands to do or undo anything
No magic man in the sky is here to do our job

Yes, and I've explained this a few times to struggling white nationalists. God is basically "pro-white" in the sense that he's "pro-every race" or "pro-every nation". God created the nations for us to stay separated, and it's clear in the Book of Revelation that in the end times, all of the "nations of saved souls" gather before Christ. So God's intent is clearly that the nations should survive until the bitter end. The Bible says that God has apportioned all of the nations of the world according to their own boundaries and habitations.

One of the main themes of New Testament end times prophecy is that Satan will come and unite all of humanity under a one-world government and create world-peace, where everybody will worship him as a fake Christ. The Bible says that Jesus Christ did not come to unite the world, he came to divide believers from the unbelievers. So globalism is a scheme of Satan to bring about the end times and a one-world government.

Furthermore, it is my belief that the suffering that white nations are going through right now is literally a punishment from God. It says in Proverbs that if we as a nation live in fornication and hatred for God, "a stranger will eat from your table and the enjoy the fruits of our labor". That's literally the globalist, Muslim mass-immigrant invasion we are experiencing right now.

There is also more Scripture that teaches against nation/race mixing, such as Leviticus 21:14 which says to "marry a woman of your own people", but I don't have the space to go into detail right now.

Race was done away with in christ. I this crypto-bolshevik global movement there is no more distinction between greek or jew, only universal brotherhood of all nations.

Do you not see? Rabbi yeshua wants your race dead and buried, you wont be saved from this by magic tricks. The churches are in lockstep with jewish replacement plans, push same rhetoric as white ethnomasochist liberals.

You will be saved by rigour, competence, and hatred towards the enemy, not by a magic 140cm arab jew who tells you to open your door for migrants and give them your coat as well.

praise jesus

Oh i bet you dont have the time, because that passage in leviticus says not to marry from the other tribe because they worship false gods, NOT because of their race. Otherwise Moses would have sinned by marrying an ethiopian.

Christmas is at the winter solstice, when the sun is at its weakest. This is the moment when God becomes man. It's like each man and woman has a dim Son of God inside of us

I read this recently. Very moving and convincing

r8 my Christmas gifts (from family members)
Christ is born

>natsoc flag
>worship a literal judaism-practicing circumcised jew
>nazi hermany's version of christianity tried to erase the old testament
>jesus says "had ye believed moses you would believe me, for he wrote of me"
>jesus says "not one jot or tiddle will in any ways disappear from the law (of the jews/israelites)

What sad cognitive dissonance you suffer from

thanks anons

Staying on the topic of scripture and prophecy like my previous post I think Pepe could be analogous to the frog plague of Egypt. The political officials in the Bible reacted in a very similar way to the ones today. Next on the list is a plague of lice. What could that mean?

Uhm, no, the Leviticus chapter has nothing to do with no marrying other tribes because they are worshiping false gods. Yes, there are many such other Scripture where this is explicitly laid out, such as when God talks about "separating the foreigners from among you", referring to the Moabites and the Ammonites who were worshiping Baalpheor and came from a line of incest.

The Leviticus command is a specific command to marry a virgin from your own people. I don't expect everyone to follow this command just like I don't expect people to follow other commands. I'm just telling you that God's ideal marriage is between a man and a virgin woman from the same nation. The Bible actually defines a nation as a "family". This command is completely separate from the command which tells us not to be unequally yoked together with heathens.

And yes, Moses absolutely sinned by marrying an Ethiopian. And he sinned by marrying a 2nd wife. Miriam and Aaron were punished because they tried to usurp Moses' authority among the Israelites and used his 2nd wife as a scapegoat. Even mainstream theologians will tell you this, and it's obvious from within the chapter itself that God's punishment on Miriam had nothing to do with who Moses chose to marry as a 2nd wife.

Walk in Truth and live in the Spirit of the Living God, your God, the Only God, God Almighty. Rejoice, for Christ was born this day! Blessings to all of you and may you find peace in Christ.

Bless you brothers
2 Corinthians 12: 7-10

Paul's Thorn and God's Grace
7And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure. 8For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me. 9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. 10 Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.

Do respectable women like in your picture even exist anymore?

Thank you, a much better cover than what most are able to gather up. However, christians are not under levutical law, and the nt says "in christ there is no jew or gentile". Also jesus says "do not even the pagans greet their own? Be perfect as your father in heaven is perfect" implying the shift in jesus is AWAY from racial distinction/tribalism and into a global, universal, multiracial brotherhood.

I hope the evil spirit YHWYH only tortures you for thousands of years rather than eternity as reward for bringing more rationalizing white boys into worship of physical jews. You are an advanced trickster.

20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!

We obviously have fundamental theological differences here. I think that Christians are fully under the Levitical law, because God doesn't change, and "not one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law until ALL be fulfilled". Even if you argue that the Levitical laws are a higher standard that only applied to the Levitical priesthood, we as Christians are a priesthood of believers. Every believer is a priest, because Christ tore down the cloth that separated the priesthood from the congregation, and in Christ we are all believers.

The only thing that has been "done away with" are the ceremonial laws of the carnal ordinances, the animal sacrifices and the sabbaths, because those things were "a shadow of things to come" and "a figure for the time now present", and were symbolic of Christ's sacrifice on the cross.

>"in christ there is no jew or gentile"
True... everyone can get saved, regardless of whether they're a Jew or gentile. Just believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved.

>jesus says "do not even the pagans greet their own? Be perfect as your father in heaven is perfect"
Lol, this is the biggest stretch I've ever seen. Christ is giving us a higher standard to live by. In the same breath in Matthew, he tells us that the law will never change, and then he gives us 4 examples of things that won't change, but gives us an EVEN HIGHER standard to live by, because "even the heathen greet their own". If the heathen greet their own, couldn't God's people adhere to an even higher standard than heathens?

>global, universal, multiracial brotherhood
That's Satan's master plan for the end times, and you'll be the first to fall for it when the anti-Christ comes down with fire and fury pretending to be Jesus.

>"Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division" (Like 12:51)

Yes, woe unto you indeed for calling evil good

I went through a phase in my life where I personally considered myself an atheist. I thought the idea of God was superfluous to the origins of Being and Purpose.
I did come back to the faith after attending a high school that boasted a Philosophy and Formal Logic class, but that's beside the point.

Even in my godless years, I still put on all the appearances of being Catholic for reasons other than faith.
Namely, in all of history, every civilization that has tried to root-out religion, and Christianity in particular, has suffered immensely for it.

I won't point out the USSR or other such obvious examples.

Consider Mexico and the revolutions that came to a head in the 20 & 30s.

It's all well and good to say, "just educate people," but that is a very long-term goal and corollary, not opposed, to religion in society.

Religion undeniably provides structure, a moral compass, a sense of tradition and belongingness in a society which are all equally critical in maintaining a high-trust society.

In order to efficiently raise a society up, by education and other means, a high-trust, stable society must first be in place.

So, even if I didn't believe in God, I would still go to church (and did) without any airs of "religion is good for the masses but not necessary for a supreme gentleman such as myself" because homogeneous Christianity is a net good for any society and I want to live in such a society.

you called you're Creator evil

here's a few reasons why i cant bring myself to respect jeebus or jeebuses' story

>old testament
>guy born in JEWdea
>middle east
>the fucking nativity has camels in it
>all of that doesnt seem european to me
>europeans had their own religions long before this "new hip cult from the sand" came about
>christians and christianity doesnt care about one's race
>basically loving everyone around you no matter what "turning the other cheek"
>the church being corrupt and non-trust worthy multiple times in history

Nice meme flag faggot.

yea, same goes for you brainlet

>"a shadow of things to come" and "a figure for the time now present"
This makes no sense, why wouldnt the law just be made proper in the first place? Why would it need chabge or correction? This is straight up abregation of the OT law which was supposed to be forever.

>True... everyone can get saved, regardless of whether they're a Jew or gentile. Just believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved.
Which means that any dysgenic mongrel from any corner of the earth qualifies as your ETERNAL brother and warrants the treatment of a brother, not just in social treatment but also in material aid (1 john 3:17-18). This is the core essence of global, crypto-bolshevik universal brotherhood.

>but gives us an EVEN HIGHER standard to live by
Yes, the "higher" standard being that you dont only treat "your own" (of blood) like brothers, but rather ALL christians (aka entirety of subsaharan africa). A recipe for disaster, of ethnocide, exactly as rabbi yeshua wants it.

Its all evil, its all filthy, it must all be torn out with its roots and ejected into the few shithole bastions that still champion it for other reasons than historical quirks (subsaharan africa, south america)

Jesus Christ is the son of Satan.

My flag stands for republican sovereignity, your for sex with camels and little girls.

Rabbi yeshua isnt my creator, and the evil jewish spirit yhwyh isnt even a god

You can't love the good things without hating the evil, and these forces want to destroy me and my entire heritage, therefore i hate them perfectly and thoroughly

Fuck off this is an athiest board of peace

Yahweh is SATAN. Remember Jews worship Yahweh . Jesus Christ is a jew and is the son of SATAN. Remember dont let these SATAN worships affect your minds. Just because they post garbage from there satanic book doesnt make them right. Dont let a Jew decide your future you are a white man you have the ability to think for yourself.

Jesus Christ is Satan's son.

nice attempt to derail the discussion and avoid answering any of my points.

and btw i'll immigrate into your "republic" in about two weeks, will get some comfy welfare checks, and why not, might go and get some refugee sex with the daughter of a proud christian

I've been feeling a pull towards Jesus recently. I haven't been religious since I was probably 13 or so. I'm 24 now. Just the other day I was doing some contemplative meditation because I recently moved and am alone, no family or friends. The idea of Jesus dying on the cross was put into my head and I started tearing up. The idea of religion totally sickens me so I'm somewhat stuck in purgatory at the moment.

what's more, your churches and your priests will be the first to welcome me, thinking that they're doing god's will and that they'll be rewarded in some fantasy-like afterlife for their pious, generous deeds

If only our mods weren't shills/Kikes and would just actively ban you fucking meme-flags on site. Not only would the board quality and overall discussion improve, perhaps these threads and the Catalog overall, wouldn't be filled to the brim with your bullshit and your utter pseudo-intellectual tripe.

Merkel is a christian democrat, the brainwashed whiteys will welcome a sandnegro to pound their daughters, jesus was a foreign desert-man after all! God so loved the WORLD, not just whitey!

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>NEWS! NEWS! Christ IS born today!

Besides Christmas being pagan in origin are you all aware Jesus WASN'T born on December 25? The Bible doesn't say when he was born. What we do know is that there were shepherds outside when he was born. That's not possible on December 25 in Israel because it's extremely cold and snowy that time of the year.

At the same time Jesus died on Nisan 14 at 33 1/2 years old. Nisan 14 is April 1st for us. Count 33 1/2 backwards starting on April 1st and that takes you to September-October.

That correlates with the shepherds being outside that time.

So Jesus being born on December 25 is a lie. Remember who the father of lie is?

Checked. Nice set of gifts user, I wish my family got that for me.

>m-mods ban the meanies with their evil meme flags

again nice way to be a faggot and avoid answering
also you're an utter idiot for thinking that

>If only our mods weren't shills/Kikes and would just actively ban you fucking meme-flags on site
>site lol

nigger, who do you think enabled those flags to begin with?
the bible doesnt teach you basic logic?

Isnt that interesting, 2 people with no sporotual authority whatsoever talking shit about the race of the man that they worship as a god.

Is this supposed to convince me otherwise? Your entire belief system is rationalization and incoherent jumbo, you try to shove the square peg of yeshua into the round hole of europe and when it doesnt fit, you push harder

Does any of this truly matter, though? All that matters is that Christmas is a time for joy and celebration, to praise the Lord and to enjoy all of the many wonderful things that come from one's family and relatives. It's a time of care and festivity, so all in all, none of what you said matters in the fucking slightest.

>Be Christian
>require no evidence for my beliefs

boy I wish I could be that simple too

>Jew is a race
Neck yourself.

>love your enemies

Both of you, shove it up your asses and fuck off. Go sperg out against Christianity in the dozens of shit-threads on the Catalog, or just make your own, you cum-guzzling Redditors.