Conservatism is doomed to fail

Ever heard the saying "today's liberals are tomorrow's conservatives"? This seems like all too true of a statement in regards to democratic societies. We all are supporters of conservatism, whether it be social, fiscal, or political, but we need to at least realize that we cannot stem off the tide of liberalism forever. As much as you might hate to hear it, but the left will win, it's just a matter of when.

For example, conservatives supported slavery back in the 19th century. Slavery was defeated, and now equal rights have been granted to everyone constitutionally. Then, in the 20th century, conservatives opposed integration and interracial marriages, but then legislation was passed and precedents were set banning Jim Crow, and now interracial relationships are at a high, and the racial makeup of the USA will homogenize over the next 50 years, whether you like it or not.

And it's not a good thing, or a bad thing, it is just a thing. Conservatives only really serve as a buffer to calm down the fires of liberalism. The last time the right won was in the 1980's with fiscal policy, but even then the market ideologies which were once considered obsolete are now slowly being replaced by socialism as young people want a more """equal""" society.

Pic related was morally reprehensible just half a century ago, but now it is perfectly accepted in society with the exception of fringe internet elements and the elderly. Transgenderism will follow.

With that being said, tell me how i'm wrong. I'm waiting.

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>With that being said, tell me how i'm wrong. I'm waiting.

Easy. The politcal right is everlasting because conservatism at it's base is "Do what has worked before."

Doing new things sometimes works, but just as often turns out to be disastrous.

Liberals supported slavery in the 19th century. Abraham Lincoln was Republican.

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But it never accomplishes anything long-term. Even the most basic values of chivalry and marriage are dying out thanks to inherently progressive schools of thought such as atheism and the scientific community.

>liberals
people that suggest new ideas be accepted.
>leftists
people that think they can force new ideas to be accepted.
>conservatives
new ideas without full plans are not worth testing out with people's lives.

therefore, the only stability a society can have is from conservatism.

Taking your thoughts at face value I would ask to what end? What is the ultimate goal of "liberalism" and at what point will proponents of this ever changing ideology be content?

There is no ultimate goal except the further liberalization of the world. We have already ascended past the doldrums of authoritarian leftist and right-wing regimes, and the libertarian right lacks the morals to truly appease the populace outside of a fringe community of ancaps and rugged individualists.

The concept of liberty is once again, not a good thing, nor a bad thing. It is just a thing - it is ambivalent towards the will of anyone, from your Sup Forumslack to your tumblrina.

Everyone wants to force ideas user, not just leftists. Hitler forced Natsoc ideology onto the German people, and Stalin forced his brand of communism on the Soviet people. Any actual attempt at force is authoritarian in nature and will be defeated over time.

>Conservatism is doomed to fail
Have you seen what Muslims are doing to Europe?

>There is no ultimate goal except the further liberalization of the world.

What does this even mean? Liberalization like to make the world liberated or some other thinly veiled often authoritative and almost always implicit term?

>The concept of liberty is once again, not a good thing, nor a bad thing.

While I agree it's abstract concept, this current popular concept of liberty entails permissiveness, albeit often hypocritically. Liberty has an implied component of self-governance that is too often ignored. How is one liberalized if not governing themselves?

Have you seen what the West is doing to places like Saudi Arabia? Women can drive now! Radical Muslims will have the floor swept out from under them, and once the ones in europe assimilate then liberalism will continue.

However, forcible takeover by an Islamic theocracy is definitely one of the ways conservatism CAN win, but the Muslims arent smart enough to do it. They cant even beat Israel with a superior numerical advantage.

I am referring to the liberation of the individual. I am sure you are familiar with sexual liberation movements, well those are all the rage right now because sex is the most primitive desire of the human. Humans want sex, and they want more of it. They also want to express themselves sexually, which is now the primary focus of the social justice movement.

Where liberation meant freedom from being owned by another person in the 19th century, and confined to the doctrine of a religion in the 20th century, we are now seeing a further erosion of that system. Transgenders and the like are today's slavery, segregation, etc.

>the Muslims arent smart enough to do it
Just like what they did in Iran, Turkey, Indonesia, and Chechnya?
You degenerates are gonna get shot against the wall.
Whether it be by Nazis or Islamonazis, is up to which direction you run.

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Conservatism is a preservation of what you saw when you grew up. Younger generation that was endoctrinated in left leaning universities and colleges is not liberal or progressive, it's conservative. And yes, conservatives are doomed - but it's not conservatives that you might thing about.

You're right, it probably is hopeless in the end. But that doesn't mean we should stop trying.

>Just like what they did in Iran, Turkey, Indonesia, and Chechnya?

Right now in Iran the youth are undergoing an underground sexual revolution. If you look into it, you will find the Iranian youth have secret orgies in remote locations to evade the authoritarian government's sexually restrictive social policies. Iran's "revolutionary" government is no longer revolutionary, it is reactionary, and will fall by 2050.

As for Turkey, Erdogan's authoritarian rule is just beginning, and he will continue to oppress the socialist and libertarian Kurds. Expect tension there to escalate, but in the end, the Kurds will get their independent nation.

Chechnya is a funny one - while its social policies are still regressive, the country has undergone a rapid increase in its standard of living, especially in Grozny. This increase in cosmopolitanism will subsequently lead to liberation movements and the destruction of the Islamic hardline order of the country. Otherwise, i would expect it to be invaded soon thanks to its high influx of radical terrorists, just like most other countries in the region.

No one is on the right side of history, or the wrong side of history. It is just history, and this post is just a reflection of the bias of some user.

Conservatism has hardly won yet, i dont expect it to beat liberalism. As for the SJWs and feminists, they will lose eventually to some other new order, probably more radical SJWs and feminists. Globalism is just a byproduct of globalization, and if it turns authoritarian, then the people will rebel against it.

everything is just a thing
nothing matters in the grand scheme of things

what matters is only what you think matters to you

you think things don't change, I bet countless people thought that they would always be the bitch of some nation and then they started a revolution

countless regimes thought they were the status quo and then they were toppled

hippies thought they were the revolution, they ended up worse than their parents

Germany was defeated in World War 1, no one thought it would come back and destroy half of Europe (well some said it's just a 20 year ceasefire) but no one predicted Hitler

he might have won in the end, but the black people in Africa threw the white pepo out and look what it go them

they won, right?

a prize made of shit

not every win is a long run win

your definition of conservative is that of conservation, but convservatives don't simply want to conserve what was before

if that was the case they would just want to keep the previous tax system.

if you want to have a polyamorous family that defies 'gender norms' that's cool for you, but when your tranny son cut's off his dick that's your whole bloodline down the drain

if mixed raced produces a better offspring it will win out, but the jews have been interbreeding for eons and have gotten pretty far

True. But to say national socialism or Stalinism is the liberalism of today is fallacious; Trotskyism will be the next successful ideology as of right now, because it caters to peoples' libertarian-left desires.

Conservatives aren't necessarily against change,
they just prefer careful and well-thought-out change.
Hate to put it so bluntly, but liberals don't care.
If someone announces free housing for everyone as their election platform, liberals would vote for that in droves.
In the end it this isn't about "winning." It's about making the world as good a place as we can.
Conservatives today just happen to be right about what that entails and liberals happen to be wrong.

Yes you are indeed already a conservative the next progressive will be the Europe and that, tired of oppression and decadence, will take back Europe and restore a state of decency.


We are an economic crisis far from the day of the rope. There are plenty of people like me that would gladly prefer kill, torture,and die more than living for nothing in these pathetic new institution.
You fags, muslim, niggers are nothing but a parasitic entity on our shoulders.

your historical timeframe's too small

I'd bet on centrism.

are you retarded?
what worked before is all history before that point

what things that liberals tried and failed are still here?

you see there is a selection bias. all your progressive ideas that didn't work - as will happen with infinite genders and infinite pronouns crash and burn

in the 70s hippies wanted to save the world, they saved shit and now we don't care. even though you may think that progress has been made:

Greenpeace is a joke
the Paris accord is a joke
the Chinese have been polluting in record numbers
so has India
you claim it's 'developed' nations, that's just a social construct mate

every type of family unit that fails will just go extinct

every feminist creep that ends up a cuck, will be raising his replacement both in genes and ideology

fags got marriage, great now they will shut up about being oppressed and we can all move on, while the crypto-fags stop tricking women into being their beards - and thus procreate under false pretenses

Fascism is the future as the West declines and retracts into its own asshole.

>Women can drive now
if they get their husband's permission
great strides mate

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Either west adopts "old" values themselves or nigroes and muslims will force them to the west. Anyway your modern liberal leftist ways are doomed. I can always adapt to changing ways but good luck with your gay pride with mahmud and abdikarim.

Don't worry, atheism is the fastest shrinking religion, and once Catholic Mexicans take over the US religious Zealotry will increase and scientific morality won't extend past "hard, or soft shell tacos?"

>hippies thought they were the revolution, they ended up worse than their parents
The hippies accomplished their goal, they got the Immigration act passed, the Civil Rights Act, and massive social reforms. They simply just settled down since they had nothing else to accomplish.

>Germany was defeated in World War 1, no one thought it would come back and destroy half of Europe (well some said it's just a 20 year ceasefire) but no one predicted Hitler
Hitler is a funny one - extremely authoritarian, extremely conservative. We never got to see what would happen to Nazi Germany over a period of time, so i think that's why people here romanticize them. People are naturally drawn to freedom, and the NSDAP didnt offer that.

>he might have won in the end, but the black people in Africa threw the white pepo out and look what it go them
Africa goes through its waves of conservatism and liberalism just like we do, only it's not as well documented.

>your definition of conservative is that of conservation, but convservatives don't simply want to conserve what was before if that was the case they would just want to keep the previous tax system.
That's a stupidly short-term way to look at things; the Republican Party right now is looking to preserve the market economy that conservatives won in the 80's. True liberals want a socialist/communist overhaul of the current economic system. You need to look at things with a more broad, long-term view.

>if mixed raced produces a better offspring it will win out, but the jews have been interbreeding for eons and have gotten pretty far
Biology already tells us that hybrids are more successful. Mixed race is inevitable thanks to globalization, and it will take the Jews too. The average age of a Jew is something in the 50's, they won't make it out of the century, just like whites wont, and asians eventually wont.

>atheism fastest shrinking religion
>atheism religion
>not swimming is the fastest shrinking sport

Nice meme. The Democrats were dominated by reactionary white supremacists.

>he thinks that his imaginary sexual orgies among youth will help to overthrow a hyper-powerful militaristic theocracy in Iran
>he think s that kurds won't be genocided once Erdogan will leave NATO
>he doesn't even know that Chechnya is not even a country
The absolute state of "liberalism", kek

If atheism/agnosticism fails, then Islam replaces it, and when islam replaces it then IT will liberalize and eventually eat itself out just like Christianity has.

I am not a leftist, i am a realist. The west will not adopt old values, they are going to go whichever way their sexuality brings them. If Islam tries to repress it then it will implode, same in the Latin American countries.

Lol, just 10 years ago women driving by itself would have been considered terrible and would never be perceived to happen. Just like how blacks faced challenges in the US with segregation and Jim Crow, women in the KSA will overcome it. The new prince is already a moderate.

>all your progressive ideas that didn't work

name one. The "infinite genders" thing has always been around; in Pakistan they have something called the Hijra, which is basically a mtf transexual. They have been around for a while. Science is making transexualism and androgyny possible, something that past generations could not attain.

>the Chinese have been polluting in record numbers so has India
Both those countries will fall. China's authoritarian-left government represses its people too much, and India's hinduism will be overthrown when the standard of living on the Indian subcontinent increases.

>tell me how i'm wrong. I'm waiting.
not only are you wrong, I'm voting for nothing liberals vote for, I like nothing liberals stand for, and I don't go the way they are going

so from my standpoint, they lost horribly.

With whites, jews and asians gone what is there left? The world will be doomed to niggerdom. Why do you advocate for globald detroit? Do you even understand that high iq people are the only reason to succesfull societies.

But millennials are having less sex with less partners compared to previous generations.

> islam will liberalize

It might never do that. In fact, we only saw the opposite - free countries went full sharia.

>The hippies accomplished their goal,
how did the Civil rights act make it better for blacks? blacks were better off in the 60s than now

they said 'no war'
we just cleaned up another war

they said immigration
now we see what shit immigration was

>People are naturally drawn to freedom
yet 90% of the people on this planet are living under an authoritarian regime

>Africa goes through its waves of conservatism and liberalism just like we do
africa only goes through shit, there was no good time for africans in africa, like there was a Great America. the only good thing that happened to africa was being disovered by whites and they threw that away

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>That's a stupidly short-term way to look at things
you post about fag rights as if it something new, fags were normal in ancient greece and ancient rome you fag.

>Biology already tells us that hybrids are more successful
IQ is hereditary by 80%. if you just breed low IQ morons with high IQ you are robbing the world of that high IQ, plus by the numbers idiots breed more. so you end up with more idiots

mixed isn't always better, fanta is good, coca cola is good, fanta cola is brown crap.

Islam will fuck you up big time boy. Your sexually free westerners dont breed and end up as evolutional dead ends. Evolution already favors islamic ways. Its funny that you dont understand that west is already dying. Your ways have no future. Your ideology is stillborn one.

Fascism failed in the 1930's. It will fail again if it actually ever happens, which i doubt.

>>he thinks that his imaginary sexual orgies among youth will help to overthrow a hyper-powerful militaristic theocracy in Iran
It did with America's highly conservative Judeo-Christian government of the 1950's. Do not underestimate the power of sexual liberation, it has time and time again been the main arbiter of societal change. Hell, the Nazis ran on a philosophy of sex, only that sex should be limited to those of the same ethnicity.

>he think s that kurds won't be genocided once Erdogan will leave NATO
The Jews have been genocided repeatedly, and they are still around. Hell, the Kurds survived the genocide at the hands of the Ba'athists. Also, I highly doubt Turkey ever leaves NATO, they have everything to lose by isolating themselves.

>he doesn't even know that Chechnya is not even a country
It is an autonomous republic, yes, but still it is ran by Ramzan Kadyrov, and he is a Chechen, albeit a Putin-puppet one. Still, he is very conservative.

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>not swimming is the fastest shrinking sport

In south africa, not being able to swim is the most popular sport. Around 80% i belive.

these sexually liberated people aren't reproducing in high enough numbers to breed out the traditional family

every tranny is a biological dead ed.

>The Jews have been genocided repeatedly
activates your cashews, doesn't it?

those jews and the sexual liberation of it, let's see how that degeneracy worked out

stepping down for a boob joke

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apparently the basement dwelling the_donald made 53% of white american women to vote for GEOTUS

>Ever heard the saying "today's liberals are tomorrow's conservatives"? This seems like all too true of a statement in regards to democratic societies.
And it is true, since conservatives in fully liberal democratic societies are.... liberals!

American conservatives hate it unbelievably much when pointing out that their constitution is a liberal document enshrining liberal enlightenment principles, which logically makes all their constitutionist conservatives liberals.

Cthulhu ever only swims left.

Its not just about sexual expression you mong. Its more about breeding. You can shoot blanks your whole life with 1000 different people. Yet the negro who fucked his ugly cousin wife and got 10 nigglets won in the end.

I dont advocate for anything. It will just happen - not everything that happens benefits mankind. Like i said, it's a thing. Whites, Jews, and (Some) Asians just will not survive the massive birthrates of the African world. Hell, we can sit here and lament about the Native american race being essentially gone. Shit happens.

>blacks were better off in the 60s than now
Not if you were in the South. Blacks also get affirmative action and other programs.

>if you just breed low IQ morons with high IQ you are robbing the world of that high IQ,
Who said IQ was a sign of "success". If you understood natural selection and Darwinism, you would know that in nature, success is not determined by intelligence, but rather the drive to reproduce. Those which do not reproduce (like whites and Japanese) will not survive, and ones that do (blacks, indians, chinese) will persevere until they face some issue.

kek!

How are transgenders comparable to slavery and segregation? Bathrooms and showers are the modern fields and schools indeed, is such hyperbole necessary?

Freedom from being owned is still a center issue when speaking of liberty; namely in the form of individual negative rights being eroded by a frantic mob that see themselves as modern day abolitionists.

But what i meant is that, due to thier extemely low birthrates, Atheists are shrinking as a percentage of population.

Okay, I agree, but will Islam remain as conservative as it is today? Probably not.

Most of those white women were old. If you went to a college town or browsed social media you will find that women are progressive, extremely willing to create hybrid children, and anti-conservative.

from an evolutionary standpoint yes, but those inbred children will still liberalize in the end, which brings us full circle back to OP

>affirmative action
which has created record numbers of blacks dropping out of college, since the bonus points are basically sending retards into a college environment

>Who said IQ was a sign of "success

just about ever study

>If you understood natural selection and Darwinism,

which is this:
if you just breed low IQ morons with high IQ you are robbing the world of that high IQ

so you aren't making the world better
you admit it that mixing will favor the morons that mix without thought

which means the retards win out

how is this progressive or liberal or liberated

this is just retarded

you are promoting retardation

PS I noticed you forgot to answer to how gays were normal 2000 years ago faggot

and I noticed how you didn't answer about great immigration

and I noticed you didn't answer about wars

but yes, you answered about slavery, while we were talking about hippies

>Most of those white women were old.
the women that didn't vote for Donald Trump are liberal future cat ladies

those old women - they have kids and grandkids

Poor analogy, it's the concept of repression. Since the most egregious things like slavery have been eliminated, then stuff you perceive as "meaningless" will become real issues. Im sure a kid growing up in 50 years will liken the struggle of the SJW movement to that of the abolitionist and hippie movements.

Ah that makes sense, sadly.
Maybe it's not so bad.
Religion, at least the christian variety, seems to have 99% of the good and almost none of the bad it use to have.
I'd feel pretty comfy in a country filled with modern Christians today.

And your "liberal" ways will die with whites, jews, and some asians. Future will be repressed sexuality with brown mullahs and rape gangs.

And these poo in loo mulatto rapists will be the winners. Such sad future. Well I quess i need to breed with some pisspoor pakistani bitch and get on board with this new human race.

It is liberalism that gradually allowed taboes, sins and vices to be accepted by people under the guise of progress and accepting it as a new norm and value. What was a taboo 100 years ago or 50 years ago is now considered a value that must be protected at all cost, even if said value has negative consequences for society. Who thought that free sexual morale and equal rights for women, would contribute to so many men being irrelevant?

It is freedom of speech which allows false thoughts like cultural marxism to be spread under the peoples thus corrupting them. It progressivism that turns sins and vices into new norms, values and rights and thus never being able to revoke it if it causes societal collapse, because that would be the anti-thesis of liberalism: authoritarianism.

Civilizations rise, stagnate and decline according to some wise men (Spengler, Unwin). It is thus important to adhere to an ideology that prevents the decline of civilization . Even if you don't believe in a supreme being you cannot refuse that islam is practically a perfect ideology for a civilization to thrive. National socialism comes close, but lacks the authority that it comes from God to legitimize such an ideology/religion.

slavery is bigger than it ever was

as I explained 90% of the world lives under oppressive regimes

all your are doing is promoting the rapid fall of our pocket of sanity into a weak state that can be overrun by the mongrel hordes

You aren’t “liberal.” You are anti-American communists and traitors. You are not good people. You are awful human beings. Literal trash.

>which has created record numbers of blacks dropping out of college
yet black women are the most educated group in America? AA has been successful at granting blacks success in the real world, as opposed to letting them sojourn in projects and on former cotton plantations.

>you are promoting retardation
I dont promote anything, i'm just saying the idiots will win out because they fuck more and fuck meaningfully. Neanderthals had larger brain capacity than H. sapien and were smarter, but still lost out because of the latter's ability to socialize and fuck.

>slavery has been eliminated

What?
No?

>ignores sexual liberation in the roman empire, played a part in its doom and the eventual return to sexual conservatism.

Nice selection bias. Society, like technology, does progress. Europe in 1900 was better than europe in 900. Your problem is conflating progress with modern liberal values.

Multicultural societies fail, and the "progress" will be the return to what makes a stable civilization. Ethnic nationalism.

When there is no more "social oppression", what will liberals have to rally behind? nothing.

You dont have to get on board with anything, it's just the truth. The future will be like that because biology does not take into account of moral fallacies such as what is right or wrong. Humans are animalistic in nature, which is why we see women fucking multiple men thanks to tinder. It has unlocked primal mating desires, which has consequently led to more liberalism.

black women are 6% of the population and if they got 500 points in their SATs I bet you their degrees aren't in STEM

you can't support a family working at the African Studies factory mate

>I dont promote anything,
you are literally saying it is inevitable
it's inevitable that world will go dark when the sun dies, but that doesn't mean we don't preserve what we can

civilization is in a constant state of collapse, it's men - mostly - that keep it going

when the grid fails in your neighborhood some guy gets in a van with his mate and fix it so you can watch porn at 3AM

this happens to everything every day, humans have kept a bloodline going from the inception of life

unbroken

til this day, fighting wars, building shit, fixing even more shit and by inventing other shit

until your tranny ass comes along and chops his dick off

>m-muh sexual liberation
Your sexual liberation didn't worked out so well in 1979, did it? It's funny how you westerners think that the whole world whirls around your sexual perversions. Why so Western-centric, bruh? Too bad that in the real world, outside of urbanized hyper-rich western safe-spaces the only things that matter are resources and political power. That's how it is, world isn't run by muh sexuality, it's run by oligarches and political strongmans. That's how it was and that's how it will always be and your useless western academical crap about muh sexuality is going to be completely forgotten once the next big war will broke out

also again: slavery record numbers, more slaves ever

wars: just cleaning up ISIS

immigration: the real shit show

gay rights: great you are now back to 200BC

the world isn't progressing to some nebulus liberal state

it is always failing and MEN, strong MEN keep it RUNNING

Modern liberalism is already in it's death spiral.

We're not all here discussing how to stop it succeeding, we're here discussing how to avoid being sucked down the drain along with it.

conservatism has already failed, the picture you showed is proof.
>guess whats coming back shill?

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Only reason multiculturalism has failed was because it has been unlucky in facing external challenges. The reason the Roman Empire failed was because it got too big, just like how the conservative British Empire fell. You guys are using selection bias too lol.

there will always be a drive for liberalism. Yesterdays slavery turned into homosexuality which is today transgenderism and tomorrow androgyny then maybe eventually trans humanism and maybe even immortality. There will never be material to run out of, liberalism lives forever.

And these women will have no offspring or few very troubled ones. Meanwhile Mohammed has 10 kids. You see who is the winner here?

There is no right or wrong about this. Muhammeds will inherit the world from these liberals who will just die out. Maybe eventually these muhammeds will create another time like ours where life is easy and you can just do nothing. Quess what happnens then? The muhammed who decide to not breed will be replaced by those muhammeds who will. It is eternal cycle.

you are repeating the dogma of scientific Communism. that there is a trendline of progress and it is directed towards the left.

but I get it, if your only thought is in how many holes you can put your dick in you won't notice the hordes of men keeping civilization going

preserving

conserving if you will

the entire construct that allows you to be a retard

even this site, some gook - a literal gook - has to keep it running

yet you, claim conservation - which again is everything you see around you - is bad

you are a retard

(and you ignore what you can't answer, classic liberal faggot)

strong men

As the standard of living in Russia increases, then it will happen there. I don't expect Russia to turn progressive tomorrow, but i do expect putin to die eventually, and when he does then the country will liberalize. You guys are still recovering from the Soviet era, which in itself was a repressive regime. Just like the south had to face reconstruction, Russia has to face it too, and eventually when they recover by liberalization, then they will follow the same path as the west.

This guy gets it! OP is living in western welfare bubble. Fuck OP and fuck his gay ass corpse of west.

Also this.

i think you mean today's conservatives are tomorrow's liberals

>Only reason multiculturalism has failed
so it failed

a system that can't withstand external challenges is inferior to one that can

>always be a drive for liberalism
and liberals are destroying the only bastion it has: the West

every other nation on earth is an oppressive shithole

and you are literally trying to police language to keep faggots and trannies FEELINGS safe

The left is falling to shambles, as it does you leftist scum continue to try to demorlize us, saying "were still in control!" not for long faggot.

Fucking tard. People have been dreaming about immortality since forever. Humanity does not need your retarded definitions of progress to really progress.

"Conservativism" is Boomers politicizing their desire to remain in constant luxury until death. They haven't "conserved" anything for future generations. That's why they've bankrupted healthcare, killed the job market, and flooded the country with cheap brown labor.

and you're brainwashed

There will always be "social oppression". It will just be increasingly inane while the cries from the "oppressed" will grow louder.

By the time your utopian faggot paradise happens, the LORD Jesus shall have stepped upon the Mount of Olives, and started his 1000 year reign till the last, and final battle. Then all of this degeneracy shall go the way of Sodom&Gomorrah.
I am actually quite glad to see all of this happening. It in my opinion is over due.

he couldn't even control this conversation, he even tried to challenge us

first he ignored points made in posts

then he just stopped responding

if that is what liberalism is... it won't last long

Was the British empire conservative? By contemporary values? Idk desu. In any case, "external threats" are always going to exist. You are creating an ideal reality in which your society can exist, but not acknowledging the world asnit is and working within reality.

It's always funny to me how conservatives and right wingers always think that things can "go back to the way they were" even though that NEVER happens and never will.

Progress is something that is intrinsically connected to civilization, and progressive policies and ideas will always prevail in the end.

So I'm not really worried about Trump or the european right wing populists, because even though it seems they're "winning" at the moment, it's a temporary thing.

The next american president will be a bigger liberal than Obama, and when the EU cuts funding to Hungary and Poland and bans their citizens from working in the EU, the governments will change in a week.

Yet we have the highest standard of living in human history? Please stop.

Hitler barely lasted a decade, because NatSoc is extremely confronting. As soon as the last """PURE ARYAN GIRL""" is fucked by some muslim then NatSoc will not have a reason to exist. Liberalism will always have a reason to exist, because it does not restrict itself to constructs such as race.

Muhammad will then liberalize.

civilization will be kept going regardless. Masculinity is already in decline - and the """strong""" idealized jobs will be replaced by automation. If patriarchy turns into matriarchy, then it will turn into androgyny and then something else. Once again, it is simply a thing, and you are inherently biased towards liberalism being a bad thing.

Conservation is not a bad thing. It just wont happen because that is not in the best interest of the individual. We cant even conserve our own planet.

So what you're saying is that things are going to escalate to full anarchy with pedophilic orgies canibalism?

>"ur brainwashed"

Holy shit, didn't know we had Nostradamus over here! Otherwise, I might have called bullshit, since you just pull your wet liberal fantasies out of your ass and hope that this shit is going to happen because reasons

Also maybe in future genociding undesirable humans will be seen as progressive. Maybe one day the liberals and progressives will be driving for exterminating the religious genes. Then they will go after the individaulists to create the true master race of co-operating humans.

it's always funny to me when people think that progress is gays having rights...

this was the case 2000 years ago. you went nowhere, this isn't progress.

more slaves than ever in the world

war - war never changes

>The next american president will be a bigger liberal than Obama

it's going to be a long 7 years for you mate

>when the EU cuts funding to Hungary and Poland and bans their citizens from working in the EU

yes, because before the EU people in those countries didn't work , they just appeared less than a decade ago

what a retard

also: Europe becomes authoritarian superstate

this isn't going back - this is going forward....


are you for real?

idiot donkeyposter

And the liberalized muhammad will get killed by the muhammads who disagree with him.

>highest living standard

Comments like this only show you're an ignoramus whom talking to is a waste of time.
Just about everywhere that's gone to the dogs has had good standards leading up to it's demise.

They still run propaganda works talking about how great Weimar Germany was before it's collapse, the Shah's Iran was pretty good too, Rome had reached it's zenith.
Your conflation of "gay sex in school = higher living standards" proves you're just another casual dipshit on the convey belt through this place.

10 percent of people in the US (25 million people) were said to support us, it only grows by the day, while your support dwindles by the day, it is over kike, the holocaust is really going to happen.

Your civilization will die. It cannot survive. It will be replaced by something else.

why do people throw around 80 percent heritability of IQ, the correlation is .5 which is 50 percent and even that number is highly debated.

conservatism failed too. Everything has failed, but one thing has remained constant - societal progress.

come talk to me when your main figurehead isnt a neocon, and a non-populist Nazi party has above 5% in an election.

>People have been dreaming about immortality since forever
Of course, but could science make it possible? Absolutely! Just like science makes transgenderism possible.

By the time i am 40, protestantism will be gone and Christianity will be declining rapidly in popularity to the point where it is basically the next Paganism. How does that make you feel? Keep taking your opiate religion, you are simply bankrupting yourself from self-expression.

Victorian era Britain was very conservative.

>So I'm not really worried about Trump or the european right wing populists, because even though it seems they're "winning" at the moment, it's a temporary thing.
The pendulum will always shift, and while it may shift center-right (because that's all populism is), it will shift back to left quickly and the alt-right and populist movement will be seen as a fad almost as impressive as the populist Party in Kansas

its almost over shlomo, tic-toc.