Why are Republicans so anti-environment? Why would you want to live in a polluted shithole?

Why are Republicans so anti-environment? Why would you want to live in a polluted shithole?

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Admit it, you just want >Shadman posters' (You)'s

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literally nothing wrong with shadman

Your tastes are irredeemable.

>Asia produces more pollution on the entire planet
>better trash the fucking west for producing less then 5 country's combined

based Shadman blesses us again

big oil will BLACK her by drilling in her wetlands

>someone else has a shitty house so we should keep destroying our own home

Priorities.
China and south asia pollute far more than the west and gain economic grounds with zero ethics.
If you and your neighbor share the same backyard, you wouldn't want to work much harder than him on keeping it clean if he throws his trash there and doesn't give a fuck.

I can atleast understand that much, without a binding trade agreement against pollution, most countries don't want want to come short.

yeah well your face is irredeemable

Were getting off this rock.You can stay with the garbage if you like.

We plan to leave this polluted shithole and make Mars our new polluted shithole

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This may be where i draw the line. Goddamit shad.

i like shads works.

Because Republicans worship the corporate cock. Whatever with help CEO’s buy another swimming pool is what Republicucks want. Those pesky environmental regulations stand in the way of profit.

The edge and memes are exquisite, but the art and subject matter are dreadful. Sometimes the dick approves, sometimes not. The image in the OP does NOT get me off.

if wind or solar were sustainable, why wouldn't people use it?
come up with reliable solution then we'll talk.
also, build nuclear.

renewables and EVs are polluting the environment more than all nuke reactors on earth combined, dipshit, you're sucking Elon and co's ponzi scheme

what is it about shad that is off? is it that he uses color instead of shadowing?

>Not wanting to pay into obvious scams using enviromentalism as a buzzword = not caring about the enviroment.

You can take your carbon taxes and pretty much everything that references global warming and shove it up your BBC prolapsed ass you fucking commie.

The #1 world polluters are in Asia. Largely to feed US consumerism

We need to go back to traditional societies, lower population (but higher tech).

We can modify our lifestyles in positive ways with improving technology, without binging on rampant consumerist bullshit. Imagine living in a small tribe, but with proper nutrition, education, and modern medical facilities just a mile down the road.

We need to bring our societies into balance with nature, and kill the suburb once and for all

Not an argument

Follow this OP.

>Nationalist Myths + Organized Religion + Voodoo Economics = The Republican Powerbase
>Critical Thinking + Empirical Evidence + Expert Analysis = The Scientific Method
>+ The Scientific Method = -The Republican Powerbase

Do you get it now? It's short sighted self-interest on behalf of a segment of the power elite.

>posting shadman
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Is this why Shadman trending on KnowYourMemes again?

Do liberals really believe a world full of trash is worse than a world full of niggers?

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why do democrats keep importing brown people?

brown people are the biggest polluters

Do do you ever know how lithium is produced for batteries or platinum for neutralizers?
In the production of a modern electric vehicle, as many toxins are released as no carburetor V8 can produce.
1 panamax, delivering your dildo from China gives off as many poisonous substances as 400,000 cars

meanwhile the nigger and spic neighborhoods are filled with garbage

Don't fix it, escape!

looking forward to the day when shad goes back to jail

>We need to bring our societies into balance with nature

they are not, the republican definition of environmentalism is what most people refer to as productive environmentalism

productive environmentalism places environmental change that best suits humanity's ecosystem to take priority over preserving any ecosystem or environment that excludes humanity as the primary benefactor.

therefore:
>support the lumber industry (growth of number of trees)
>support oil companies (use benefit of oil to be productive, sue oil companies for irresponsible practices, making them more compliant and pays for damage)
>support farming (biodiversity of plants encouraged by market competition)
>support urban growth and rural growth( development of civilization using green production which FYI is cheaper)
>support self-sustaining preservation(hunting endangered animals (undesired priority) to pay for them to cared for) or (zoo)
>take in law suit of polluters to clean up unsustainable pollution, deal with the problem on a case by case basis.

that's a pretty good number tbqh

>productive environmentalism
You mean like this?

is that from North Dakota?

Enviornmentalists should be killed en masse and buried in mass unmarked graves; For the good of the planet of course as their rotting corpses will provide great nutrients for the plants.

South Dakota

there are many who aren't asses.

You know that Nixon started the EPA, right? And that he did it specifically to clean up industrial pollution, not to punish big business or to push green energy shit onto everyone.

ok, that is refereed to as a negative externality, literally something bad that happened in the process of production. the resolution is simply to have the transgressor pay for the necessary action to fix the problem, which the Dakotas do and often, srsly the oil companies pay the Dakotas a shit ton of money just regularly clean up problems like that.

unless I am mistaken and that is just a off colored parch pf grass.

T. Urban coastie that is smug for breathing air pollution.

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And all you have to do is kill off 6.5 Billion people to get there.

Is there more to this?
Earth degradation porn is a fetish I didn't know I had until just right now.

>overpopulaton comic is the earth getting overwhelmed and gangbanged by niggers, chinks, and poos
wew

Considering how many of that number are spearchuckers, dindus, SJWs,...not many at all in the end.

or just cut the birth rates

You're probably a Staten Island fag. Most city's don't have more landfills than people.

I'm neither republican or anti-environmental, I just think the proposals to supposedly save the environment aren't going to actually work. Significantly altering the climate or biosphere of the planet is a megaproject and will require extensive investment and collaboration from one or more world powers (USA, China, Russia, EU). Anything less than absolute commitment is just wasting time and resources, taxing carbon won't work, making a promise to blow a trillion dollars a year on nebulous projects when nobody can keep up with their deficit spending already won't work. Pretending that humans are only to blame and if we just ground our societies to a halt the Earth would just be magically fixed is no better than believing the earth is flat.

I'll take interest when someone pushes through a proposal to build a space elevator and orbital factories, orbital mirrors to bounce heat back into space, massive cloud seeding projects or raising the albedo of the poles, massively expanding nuclear power to take over from fossil fuels in power grids. Until then it's just LARPing that you're saving the planet and virtue signaling, which is a waste of the resources left to get actual work done.

Try not to be stupider than you already are.

The fines are paltry compared the revenues of the oil companies and don't discourage, in any significant manner, further spills when the prevention can cost more than the penalties. As a point of comparison, the BP oil spill a few years ago got BP hit with an $18.7 billion dollar fine in 2015. Their revenue in 2016 was $183 billion, so a mere drop in the bucket.

The money also doesn't, and can't, completely fix the short and longterm impacts of spills. The entire food chain of the Gulf of Mexico was affected and remains affects to this day, affecting everything from the animals living there to the people who depend on fishing and other water-related professions to survive, such as tourism.

It's not.
ksfy.com/content/news/Crews-cleaning-up-Keystone-Pipeline-leak-in-Marshall-County-458046943.html

The off color is from the crude oil leaking out of the pipeline running under it.

>room mate buries whole house in trash
>dude, youre kind of a slob.

i fully support environmentalism and sustainability that's why i am pro nuclear. It would be great if we could get of energy dependency of big oil and coal which are both owned by the jews. It's sad that most of the environmentalists are full of shit and make it into a partisan issue, when it really shouldn't be

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>tries to convince me on a moral arguement
>uses hyper-pedo-rapist-cuck Shadman
Kek

>YOU THERE WITH THE PLASTIC BAG ON YOUR LAWN, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT YOUR NEIGHBOR'S MOUNTAIN OF TRASH!
Fuck you cunt, the US has been steadily improving the efficiency and cleanliness of it's industrial base and power grid for decades.

A proper mix of wind/hydro/solar/nuclear is clearly the optimal solution.

Some places will be better suited for certain types of energy than others, but getting off coal/oil should be the #1 priority.

>my neighbor has a bunch of trash in his yard so i'll start throwing trash in my own yard
Nice logic.

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and they fixed the pipeline, which Obama refused to allow them to do.

BP pays to fix their problem, how do you justify the impact of the gulf coast, if you cannot them there is no way to make BP pay for the damage.

simply put as long as BP can make money, BP can and will continue what it is doing, if you can prove they "broke something" then pursue them in court, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisianan and Texas regularly do.

why are you so hard to put BP out of work? they provide to the common good more than apparently the gulf of Mexico, therefore what ever they are doing benefits humanity, and if it doesn't then demonstrate it and prove it in court, cause the states of the coast would love to get their piece of BP.

FYI the fine was for deep water horizon which was a total fuck up on part of BP, and you will likely see that fine grow. that is the kind of shit you just have to process and fix, BP is responsible for all the damage they did, and the court will enforce that.

The proper mix of wind/hydro/solar/nuclear is all nuclear and hydro, scrap the wastes of resources that are wind and solar.

i'm not against wind or solar but they will never be base load power. In saying that hydro geo-thermal or nuclear can always accommodate them for base load power. Nuclear is the way of the future if we want to ascend of this planet and turn into a galactic civilization becuase you can never have to much electricity

A global one child policy could get it done in like a century or two with no killing at all. Might need to forcibly sterilize the third worlders who can't stop breeding, but it wouldn't need to be at gunpoint since they're stupid and easy to trick (israel does exactly that with their ethiopian "cousins" that immigrate).

nuclear and hydro are the heavy lifters, wind is supplemental, solar is more of a "you live off the grid." thing, unless you count the massive solar farm which is actually a thermal process.

so I agree

Straight up, pay them a thousand dollarydoos each to get snipped. For a good portion of the world's population this is literally more money than they've ever seen in their entire lives, they'd do it with a smile.

if it was shadwoman you wouldn't have a problem

OP soooo desperate for (You)'s

kill yourself small-time

i don't know if they do this or not but wouldn't it make sense to use solar to pump water back up hills into hydro dams so you can use the power later on like using it as a rudimentary battery

>pay them 1000 monies
>kill them
>take back monies
>repeat infinitly

only have to spend cash on bullets.

Panjjet flag, worst pollution in the world. Kek.

Biggest problem with nuclear is it suffers from NIMB mentality, a lot of FUD, and some issues with storage.

Solar is great for a lot of places like the southwest which get a ton of sun. Not so much for many northern places. I don't know too much about wind but it's worked well in my area, despite some initial FUD about headaches (when they weren't even activated).

BP paid a fine based on the amount of oil it released into the ecosystem, not based on how much damage was actually done. It's like if you got charged per bullet fired, whether that bullet went into a target or a person's head, killing them.

BP plead guilty to 11 felony counts related to the deaths caused by the incident. If a person did that, they would be in jail for the rest of their lives. So since companies want to be treated as people (Citizens United) they should've been forced to finance all cleanup of the affected area, pay restitution to the victims (both the injured/deceased and locals), and had their charter revoked in the United States. The corporate "death penalty", if you will.

no, and that isn't how it would work. you need water for the use of massive solar farms and it uses convection to spin a turbine, storing potential energy is wasteful on the water cycle and would cause a lot of problems down stream.

green principles say they water should stay moving to be of use, making a massive battery is actually more environmentally friendly and has a better return on energy than storing water

So either invent clean energy that can replace our current needs, or start genociding people. People who complain about pollution are pro-genocide by necessity. You can't have it both ways, just like those faggot socialists that want open borders, welfare doesn't work if you give it to everybody

then prove it in court.

Prove what in court?

that what you said is true. prove it in court if you want BP to be penalized as you describe.

They already plead guilty to the charges. Their guilt is admitted.

It's the punishments (a set fine per barrel, corporate fines which amount to a few days of revenue for 28 casualties) that are flawed.

then take that to court.

you are blaming people who had nothing to do with BP and are transgressed against. if you find this to be unfair, git it proven in court.

Most wind doesn't work that well, it's inconsistent (which instantly kicks it out for contributing to the power grid) and solar doesn't scale with size, I think the best efficiency I've ever seen is 14/15% and those are the NASA models used by spacecraft, satellites, and the ISS so not exactly the kind of thing one could simply mass produce. Nuclear is the most efficient of all known power generating techniques with a capacity factor (peak power/average power) of 90-92% while Photovoltaics are down at 12-29%

That doesn't make sense

BP isn't to blame for the actions of BP?

You make no sense.

the other oil companies, the people of Louisiana, the coastal states, the people who worked on deep-water. when you blame oil you blame these people, focus your aggression on BP

Oh that'll be easy
Just release bunch of viruses into africa which we have vaccines for, but won't sell to them.

Then give nukes to Pakistan, Iran, Libya and watch the fuckers toast themselfs and India.
China is already doing it's part.

That should do it.

Brah I care about the planet, but then I realize the planet natural heals it's self, no matter how the damage in a million years it'll be like we were here, and as for extinctions big deal the earth has had quite a few mass extinctions and each time it's cleared the way for more diverse and intelligent life.

You don't craft laws to punish one person. That violates equal protection.

All companies, from BP to TransCanada to whoever else should be held much more accountable for ecological damage, including oil spills.

The point is to make damaging and endangering the environment, whether purposefully or through negligence, so painful that they take actual precautions to prevent it rather than paying lip service and paying out a couple days worth of revenue if they get fined.

i get how turbines work although you can use photo-voltaic for solar so without water usage. When i mean storage i mean pumping into already established water ways not storing it in pools. You don't have to worry about stagnation so long as you have a large enough body of water and movement. We could even use solar for desalination plants.
actually storage is a non-issue that's blown way out of porpotion. nei.org/Knowledge-Center/Nuclear-Statistics/On-Site-Storage-of-Nuclear-Waste. 2000-2300tonnes for all nuclear is tiny there's plenty of places around the world were we could store it and it would never be a problem.

I second that as well as their headstones composed of biodegradable materials.

I'm starting to think shadman is actually low key genius

they are.

deep-water is a direct case of where environmental protection fail-safes were deliberately ignored.

BP has to pay.

that is why they are a corporation, not everyone in BP is to blame for one mans poor decisions, that is the special protection granted to a corporation, as it acts as a body of people, not one person, but is legally taxed and fined as a single legal entity.

>le redneck flag
shut up, you're more of a degenerate

Because they're subhuman mutts. All Americans are. It's sad that such trash are supposed to be the "saviors of white race".

I literally meant pumping it back up the "river."

check out the legal battle the state of Georgia had with Alabama(the army core of engineers) over lake lenier and the Chattahoochee and its water rights.

you must let water flow "down hill" and go through the water cycle, more problems will come from storing it than letting it cycle.

the problem with solar is that you need a lot to do anything worth while, it is actually better to grow trees (which use solar energy) and burn them.

not my proudest fap

So if I own a restaurant and someone gets food sickness from a different restaurant I should pay for that? Logic is not your specialty.

beta cucks won't shit on women
i know an awoo posting brainlet like you cannot work out things usually, but try for me

START WITH CHINA

Those rules fucking suck. The planet isn't overpopulated, it's overpopulated with subhumans