THIS KILLS THE LEFTIST

>But...but...but.....The US spends 53% of the budget on the military!!! Facebook told me so!!

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Imagine if they swapped science with welfare. Would we have already ushered in a technological utopia?

leftists hate science, as you probably already know

I also wonder how much money would be saved in Medicare if there was a way to fight back against the insane increases in prices of medication from the pharmaceutical companies. It seems to be an aspect of the healthcare debate that is just flat out ignored.

>interest on debt, 6%
>agriculture subsidies to grow corn to do nothing with, 4%

Nearly 400 billion fucking dollars for nothing

where's the nasa budget? where's the 21 trillion the pentagon lost? the military budget right now is not 750 billion?

White Americans would be vacationing on Mars.
Unfortunately... muh gibs n sheeeit.

Niggers and spics are bleeding us dry time to cut off these parasites

From the same site dipshit. Difference is scale of spending.
This is what people are referring to.

>the U.S. spends $770 billion on a jobs program
>the meme conservative interprets this as "only $770 billion?"

No one debates that half of discretionary spending goes to the military. Libshits think that half of ALL spending goes to the military. It doesn't.

It's discretionary spending vs mandated by law spending.

The only reason to ignore the mandated spending is the lie about the overall levels if spending

>hungry
>fat
Checks out

Massa me so hungy

Get rid of government healthcare spending, abolish social security, and cut the welfare budget in half. Problem solved.

>Fuck the poor

Boomer detected

No, I'm just a libertarian. I also think the income tax should be abolished, but given that that will never happen we should at least have a flat tax.

>inb4 but ppl will die without muh gibs
Healthcare isn't a right, social security is retarded, and welfare should be heavily restricted to only the most needy (e.g. those who are physically handicapped and/or children under the care of the state).

Understandable. It would be interesting to see how it would shake out abolishing income tax, which makes up almost half of total revenue, while also striking entitlements to make up for decreased revenue.

I'm curious, from a libertarian perspective, how you would fight globalization and outsourcing of labor to dodge domestic labor costs without regulation of business? Or am I mistaken in thinking that Libertarians are opposed to regulation?

Keeping our agriculture sector in high gear is a bulwark against major natural disasters, war, or international economic warfare.
It also helps to keep other nations agriculture weak and dependent on us or others to mitigate other potential hostilities and assure US global hegemony.
A lot of people fail to grasp these things because our government avoids discussion of such issues openly and in plain terms.

It's almost like something is preventing competition between companies which would lower prices and make (((them))) upset.

>600 billion goes to military
>so we can go from having 2x as much shit as everyone else to having 2x as much shit as everyone else

Yes yes nothing wrong with military spending.

that could have been my free college, Bernie even said so

Yes, monopolies on patents and thus products. There's a reason no one is getting into the epipen business, cutting costs, and driving the price down.

so much (((progress))) could be made if these retards could just look after themselves

>Boomer detected
is this the new Sup Forums meme?
every time someone needs an insult its boomer this or boomer that, even if it makes no point.
i'd bet my left nut there really are no boomers on 4chins.

Boomers are likely to be poor though.

>corporate
>individual

Why aren't they combined? Corporations are people, right?

They could get rid of separate fitness standards for men/women and just use the USMC standard DoD wide and kick out a 30% of the force that are worthless sacks of shit that bring down moral, reduce productivity, and are nothing more than a drain on resources.
And then go to capital punishment for serious corruption.

>corporations invoke their second amendment rights
>mfw

>spending $600 billion a year fighting wars for israel is ok because it triggers libtards epicly xD

Yeah but who's gonna sit around and "staff" our military bases?

"discretionary spending" is a category created by the left wing to protect their social programs from cuts

u retards do realize that Trump is going to bankrupt you like one of his casinos right

usdebtclock.org/

>spending $600 billion a year maintaining a force that could fight a fullscale modern world war single-handed at the drop of a hat

ftfy

why's ur lord and savior 0bama pissing away half his budget on le evil military?

No one has ever claimed the US spends 50%+ of it's budget on the military.

The reason so much is spent on healthcare is because the corporations need to get their cut.

Kill yourself, faggot OP. Only people under the age of 21 and absolute morons will believe this post.

No it isn't. It's been a budget item for decades. You retards are just clueless morons.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discretionary_spending

You realize that 20 trillion of our debt is owned by the US gov't and individuals?

Cool, go ask your liberal friends how much of total US spending goes to the military. Fun experiment.

yes, and it was created specifically to protect social programs from cuts

You're a moron and LARPing.

Economics and globalism has eradicated a full scale ground war between developed nations.

Unless that $600 bil is being spent on drones and cyberspace security, it's going to waste

>No one has ever claimed the US spends 50%+ of it's budget on the military.

Thanks to pictures like this plenty of dumb dumbs out there believed exactly that.

Only telling people the discretionary budget is like telling people how much you spend only through cash, while ignoring all your credit card purchases

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discretionary_spending
Literally only mentions the US gov't uses this term.

No it's a way to categorize mandatory and discretionary spending

>there will never be a major conflict between developed nations

and why do we have those two categories dumbass

Thats what they said in the early 1900's.

My liberal friends know their figures and don't get butt hurt over bad image posts trying to trigger them like easily persuaded people believing whatever the shadows of the flame show them

ok and? u retards and like 1 other country are the only to use Fahrenheit too

>Economics and globalism has eradicated a full scale ground war between developed nations.

Eradicated? Nah, but it has made it much less likely. People who believe war can ever be """eradicated"""" are seriously naive

because the budget is so big and needs categories

Comparing the 1900s to the 2010s and beyond.

LOL! The literal shit of this fucking post.

Check the post I was responding to. They're saying it now.

>medicare and health
I thought it said "mediocre health", but that's probably because only 3% goes to education.

>full scale ground war between developed nations.

This is eradicated.

War in general is going on right now.

I'm not as stupid as you all want to think.

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I saw your distinction, I just still don't buy it.

What was the phrase again. Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it.

Currently eating a dingo burger. I can taste your baby.

Ah my bad

>Goverment can solve all problem
Retard, goverment can't fix anything. That would just be 1.2 trillion going to social studies.

That's a fucking reach and you know it (???)

Why don't we compare WWI to the Napoleonic Wars. Same time line right!? Fucking moron.

no sweetie you're wrong and that's not an argument

Good, then they know that the military on makes up 16% of total us spending and so talking about cuts to the military to solve our problems is rubbish. Neoliberals aint so bad.

I like it. Is it OC?

The main reason people think defense is the big ticket item is because it's discretionary spending, so a budget including defense has to be drawn up every year, and every year libtards see that defense is the biggest portion of that year's budget.

Making social security and medicare (((mandatory))) spending is the most fiendish thing they ever did. The rumor is that Trump is doing welfare reform in 2018, so I hope we can fix this.

>no 1 thing will completely solve the us debt problem so better not do anything at all

this is why right wing retards can't be trusted with money

You seem like the only person of intelligence posting currently so I'll engage.

I don't see open ground war between modernized nations happening in the way we have seen it in the past.

Modernized nations have not faced off directly since WWII for a reason.

Nuclear deterrent and the MAD principle is one. But more likely in today's world cyber-warfare is where modern nations can do the most damage.

Why would a nation invade the US, or launch nukes, when they could possibly use cyberspace to shut down electrical grids, internet servers, etc etc?

We're onto the next level of warfare.

No.

>thinking I'm right wing

Fucking lol. You need to practice some NVC and meditate faggot. Where did I say that?

thebalance.com/who-owns-the-u-s-national-debt-3306124

it amazes me how little u retards know about your own country and how much i have to educate you

the military is discretionary spending because the founding fathers did not want a standing army and the US Constitution only allows funding for an army for 2 years so the loophole is basically they have to re-appropriate the money every 2 years

>To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

Countries rip themselves apart when famine occurs. That small blip on the budget is more than compensated by removing the fear of crop failures or soil destruction. That program is one of the few that actually work.

so u admit ur wrong

>You realize that 20 trillion of our debt is owned by the US gov't and individuals?

Why do you care leaf, you aren't American. Shouldn't you worry about Trudeau shitting up your country.

>interest on the debt 6%
wtf but my government teacher told me its fine b/c we owe it to ourselves!?1? Why is getting the interest?

Foreign - $6.004 trillion

I quoted the wrong amount my bad, the US owns $14 trillion of its own debt among its citizens and agencies.

If you buy treasuries you get paid interest. So I can buy US debt as an investment

I recommend you look in to what the economic were saying in the immediate run up to World War 1. That line of thinking is foolish and outdated. War will always come, it's inevitable. It may not be in the immediate 10 years but the second race for Africa is already beginning as resources tap out in easily accessed areas.

Gotta say, I loved so many things Bernie said, but that one line struck a nerve for me. I feel like he probably said it without thinking but still it wasn't ok. Even as a liberal I hated that too.

>but the second race for Africa is already beginning as resources tap out in easily accessed areas.

I'm decently researched on WWI.

I'll concede the Africa argument. But still I see this situation panning out into very overt-proxy style wars and not direct-ground conflict....as in, American soldiers in Poland invading Russia for example.

There won't be a war like that. If it did, it'd be over in 20 minutes and half the earths land area would be a nuclear wasteland.

>tfw your country is so entitled you waste trillions just to please a few dozen million out of 300 million people
>in huge debt to other countries
>waste food by the tons
>still the #1 economy in 2017, beating the entirety of EU combined and China
>life as a whole is still cheaper and more convenient than other countries
>your poor are still fat and own property
let's just be a one world order already

MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) Principle is in effect for all countries with nukes.

Not to segue but that's why North Korea is the scary one. Iran with nukes won't do shit. They have too much to lose. North Korea has NOTHING to lose in a MAD situation and that makes it frightening.

We'd still win. "See you next summer pussies!!"

Proxy war happen because conventional war is insane with the US around. The United States being the global bully has caused a transition to proxy and underhanded warfare. Any place that the US is weak on influence or well known to be disinterested has conventional warfare.
The US was known to be exhausted after the Iraq war which is why ISIS bloomed so hard and became a nation state entirely by conquest alone. Once the US became interested again via all the head chopping videos ISIS' nationstate was blown off the map in months. Armed conflict between nations occurs at the US' leisure or disinterest. Remove the capability for US intervention and the long peace WILL fail.

America the Post.

I weep for my society.

inb4 124 posts of obamaleaf getting BTFO by multiple anons.
You know it's gonna happen

What a fucking mess.
The next time they bail out your jewish banks US will literally become a 3rd world country in terms of QOL for an average white. Full definition of the word for many major cities with a significant nigger population.
Except it will not because you will start a next world war to prevent a domestic one.

I fucking hope that by some miracle yellowstone will erupt and delete your mongrelised, jewish banker central before that happens.

>Put all SS, Unemployment and Labor into Military
>Put all of Medicare into Science
>Achieve Empire of Mankind

>ISIS
>became a nation state

You really lost me here bro

The government used to be pretty efficient, the welfare state is why it’s bloated.

How much of the fat acceptance movement is orchestrated to keep people unhealthy and dependant on miracle pills? We shame health as privilege and laud walking gravy as beautiful.

Liberal here who has gotten into fights with liberals about this very idea.

It's funny how fast liberals become libertarian when you threaten them with high taxes on soda, fast food, and red meat. "A person shouldn't be taxed for what they want to eat!"

"What if this tax funds single-payer healthcare systems?"

"It's still not right! People should eat how they want to eat."

t. Liberal who hates most liberals

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Because you need boots on the ground to take over. End of story.

Throwing money at science doesn't just produce miracles. The great advancements of the past were generally made by the intellectual elite who were funded by a wealthy patron. Science is saturated with mediocrities now as everyone goes to Uni, thus much of the money would be wasted on them.

>need boots on the ground to take over.

This is not a video game dude.

A modernized nation invading another modernized nation for complete take over is not likely to happen as it was in the past.

Based obama leaf, a shame that u still defend democrats when both sides are shit tier and the only option for america is nuclear destruction

Jody has your back.