So I see a lot of people asking about moving here and speculating about the future of this country.
Let me put it in simple words: there's no future here. The best you can do is to stay away. This country is a big, very big lie.
Ask me anything you want
When and where exactly did Hitler die?
Tell me about the villeros
Are you mixed
I don't know
What, specifically?
Me? No
you ever get drunk and start belting out horst wessel lied
redpill me on peruvian immigrants
>Me? No
>This country is a big, very big lie.
Explain
hace el thread a la mañana que ahora esta medio Sup Forums dormido forro, te espero.
so why do you say there's no future for argentina?
are you getting diversified? are white argentinians sitting there and being like "diversity is our greatest strength" or what?
Good question. I never hear anything about Argentina.
A lot are going back to home because the prices and economy is going better than here.
There are two types: the educated ones (doctors, etc) are hired in hospitals among colombians because they'll work for a dime and without social security. I blame the employers for doing this. And the rest are the nigger tier (those who live in the slums)
Is that pic you? If so you're hot as fuck.
Wanna come live with me in a white country?
Maybe Uruguay?
You need to enter the SA threads Leaf-bro. Argies banting against Chile-bros while Uraguayains laughing about both then all 3 gang up on peru, bolivia, columbia, equas and all along providing sources for their anger or dislike of one another. The most i have ever learned about SA history and geo politics is from SA Sup Forums breads
This country is controlled by a small minority. The wealthy families who own business and resources, the church and the political elite. This is no hidden conspiracy either. The Blaquiers, Fortabats, etc are some examples. Each other wash their hands and keep their status quo. They send all the money they have outside the country.
Cristina, Macri, Menem, it doesn't matters. It's the same shit, a theather. Media brainwashes people with lame patriotism and to make them to believe they live better here than anywhere (a lot of topics, I can go profoundly on each one. Prices, quality of education, healthcare, etc. Now they promote immigrants openly, from Latam countries). Multinationals earn their biggests incomes in dollars here, more than any other place in the world due to this
Coup d'etats are orchestrated by those groups. They are NEVER affected by anything basically.
This is no different from a medieval state, made up by feuds
I'm curious why you think people want to move to Argentina.
You might be thinking of leftypol
I think it's a beautiful country but it's pretty unstable and corrupt.
I'll do it again if I have time in the morning. I have some stuff to dump, but not here atm
> so why do you say there's no future for argentina?
Several factors as stated here (going to elaborate) Should add also a heavily divided society and a lot of apathy, also product of the disdainful treating of central government toward the rest of the country
> are you getting diversified?
Yes
>are white argentinians sitting there and being like "diversity is our greatest strength" or what?
Sitting there. The diversity slogan isn't enforced yet. But the government (now with Macri) promoves the "New Argentinians" as something good (they're good for businessmen, as they are hired to work for nothing with barely any qualifications)
I'll give you an example, give me a second
I read on 8ch /argentina/ that argentina was done for because there were eay too many ir couples with mestizos (especially bolivians who are basically natives). How true is that?
Is this your way if saying "fuck off, were full"
Why are the kikes coming down there if there is no future? What do you know about the Andinia Plan?
> Is that pic you?
No. She's dead btw
> Maybe Uruguay?
Uruguay is on the same track
> I read on 8ch /argentina/ that argentina was done for because there were eay too many ir couples with mestizos (especially bolivians who are basically natives). How true is that?
That's only a consecuence. They're still less than 40% of thr population... by now. The ruling classes do not care if the mass of the people are bolivians. They all live inside a bubble in a expensive neighbourhood and are mostly the ones who believe this country is better than the EU
IR couples are not that common, it depends the place (higher in the north and Conurbano) but 99% of those si see are always white men with non white women. I just don't think that it's the biggest concern. If any it's a consecuence of biggest stuff
The mestizo boom is more of indios/mestizos multiplying like cockroaches and mass immigration of colombians and venezuelans
why do they want the south? water? we are isreal 3.0 after usa now, everyone on politics, tv, news and entertainment is a argentine jew here, i don't know any sportsmen jews tho
No. We're not full, all the contrary. If any 75% of our territory is deserted and the country heavily underpopulated. But the "state", ie the institutions and strata that forms it (actually who use it as a money making machine), makes it a nightmare for progress
This country is kept in a latent civil war state since the XX century for the benefit of a few, both local and international.
They aren't coming here. In fact I knew a lot of jews who moved to USA or got their israeli citizenship amd GTFO when economical crises hitted. We have the biggest jewish community in the continent second only to you but that goes back to the XIX century.
Callate negro
The entire South American continent is being flooded with Haitians, Africans, and other nigs.
For some ((odd)) reason, they always end up being sent to white cities.
DURANTE SU NIÑEZ
Surely it must be a (((coincidence)))?
Peru is cool. I like how wild and poor it is. It must be pretty degrading to live off of tourism, but I met some alright people who weren't as insecure or creepy as the others
Is it possible a slow migration into the Southern cone could eventually turn into a rebellion and a secession?
>Uruguay is on the same track
Please develop this. What do you think about Uruguay, in general? Is it really a provincia? Seems to be a comfy country from afar.
Kirchner was the Gray Man. Argentina will have the only middle class remaining soon. Only Argentina can save the world. But first ... you must kill Paul Singer. By helicopter drop
Because there are whites there and jews come in and start gentile eradication ops
Do you have a vagina?
Does it get you food and shelter?
Refugees and poor immigrants are a big business. Politicians make A LOT of money from them.
Human traffic, cheap labor, votes, clash forces are only secondary. They make money by letting them in, product of tax evasion, payments, etc. The governments do not care about their people.
As a side note, when Videla was in power he arrested ALL the bolivians in our territory and put them in a train to send them back. Then the then president of Bolivia treatened to cut off the gas suministry (we depended, and still in part depend on them on this) and Videla, who lacked the balls, had to back off and let then stay
You like poverty ?
Might I suggest some Venezuelian socialism for you ?
Just playing, I like Peru as well....
But south america and kidnappings go hand in hand....
I’m American.
I could give two shits about what happens from Mexico all the way down to the tip of Portugal down there!
>tfw you just took your first semester of Spanish and you understand spicposting now
Yeah, I could see some dumbass flashing money and getting robbed. Trying to buy weed or pussy isn't a good idea in SA. I noticed a few arrogant tourists who wouldn't have fared well on the NW side of Cusco if they accidentally ended up over there.
Common the country is lovely people is nice, food is great and you have space and flat ground.
You're redpilled as fuck and in the best way possible IMO, with a big picture view of society, class, institutions, and the levers of power. Keep posting.
I dont. I really doubt I want to know what Guatemalan refugees and spics say. Goblins go home!
I doubt it. A lot of people need this status quo to keep their business running.
I'm personally ok with them and one of the few who I'd call brothers.
Now, Uruguay is a buffer state, there's money laundry as well. Life is a bit more expensive there than here. They are slowly getting their ration of colombians, venezuelans, centracas, etc. They have slums (called "cantegril" there) and other stuff as well, although not so much like here.
Hopefully they don't get into this
Argentine middle class is pretty much dead since the 2000s.
No and no
mexico will become the us of latam
remember this in 15 years
You subhuman baboon. You literal nigger.
How dare you speak, you swarthy jungle monkey. How dare you open your big lipped, rim encrusted, menthol cigarette smelling mouth
You are human trash, Diego Tyrone LeShawn de Maradona. Universally despised, derided and mocked. Your nationality and skin tone offers no hope to the world that South America can ever prosper. Crawl back in to the Brazilian jungle you came out of, you literal orangutan.
I hope you decide to sail your grandfathers skip to the Falklands and rape some sheep, as is in the negroes nature. It would still be the whitest pussy you ever had. Give Nigel and Robert a chance for some target practice, your sole use to the world. Argentinians obsession with a few windswept islands in the Atlantic is hilarious but sad. Coincidentally its the only worthwhile contribution Argentina has made to the medical field. The MUH LAS MALVINAS sentiment in the average negro Argentinian is both an early warning sign of autism in children, and early on set Alzheimer's in adults.
Take your black hairy fingers off your keyboard, and never talk about the human species again, you mockery of our supposed shared ancestor.. No amount of olive oil and wheat flour slabbed on your face every morning will make you white. It's about as delusional of an idea as your daydreams of European heritage.
You nigger.
You make Bolivia look like a beacon of civilisation.
You are the Baltimore of South America.
Go fertilise the pampas with you and your families corpses, its the best you can hope for in life. For the first time in your life, nigger, you have a job making food for beings vastly superior to yourself. Uruguayan cattle. Coincidentally, it would be the first time an Argentinian "man" provided for a family.
Die, Diego. No one would miss you. Except for Australian Aboriginals, who now would have no one to make them look good.
We coupd set up a new status quo in the Southern cone. It has access to both oceans and would have only one border to protect.
Days some tasty looking boipucci
BIG BAITING JOLLY MATE
that's a girl that jumped from a 9 floor and died
at least she had a good reason?
people say she was depressed
Uruguayans are ridiculously centrist so they fall for all of the UN memes, all of them.
I'm with OP on his stance, I emigrated here when I was 2y/o from Paraguay and lived here ever since. And it's pitiful to see a country with a lot of EU ancestry shit the bed so hard, and with a population that's darker than yours truly with a guarani heritage, ridiculous.
Don't get me wrong I love this country, it gave me so much including all the people I love.
Being said that, most of its population is just back-asswards and had poor education + indoctrination of cryptofascist governments (that are an insult to the idea of fascism/integralism/similar). And on top of that, even though I like him, our prez is really a nice goy and falls for all the jewish memes, our departments of environment, energy, and others are filled with jews or corrupt politicias, and the aristocrats just care about the quick buck as they did 100 years before. As long as they can get their imported goods, they're happy even if the country goes to the shitter.
Argentina needs a HUGE cultural shift, don't know how it will happen though, maybe the four horsemen will bring the answer. I can't wait for this country to get rid of the jewish influence that it suffers, them and freemasons are certainly behind a lot of shit down here, they manipulated the course of this country for a long time.
how's Peru? Just found out they used to have jap president, and their current pres is polish. Seems like a strange place.
She certainly made a depression
their current president is burguer and he seems to hate burguerland
Ni todos tienen la suerte de nacer en la madre patria pero no es necessario cometer suicidio. Todavia seguia siendo blanca.
> Common the country is lovely people is nice, food is great
That's part of the lie and the problem. People are brainwashed making them to believe anything with that rethoric. People are being HEAVILY scammed by the government and elite as mentioned before, making them believe that they have a big quality of life when they don't.
For example, the agriculture. Let's imagine that lettuce is produced at the price of 1$ and the owner still gets a lot of profit at that price. He will sell it at 10$ to the markets and they will sell it at 20$. This is done with EVERYTHING in this country (sometimes at absurdely high rates, worse than the example I gave) , and legal loopholes also used to encourage it. Statal services like buses are partially privately owned and the owners take subsides from which they steal (and the money goes to their accounts in fiscal paradises). Literally ALL the money that is made here by local companies is sent overseas.
The people (tax payers, who probably are only 50% of the population as a lot work under the table either unintentionally or intentionally) are kept distracted with political clashes or with that "comfy image" of the country while they get more and more fucked. This country is cyclic. This same thing is being used from decades, not just by recent governments
That's Chile today my friend
Someone has coca leaf stuck in their buttocks. Think twice before typing shit like that panchito.
Low IQ people being scammed by corrupt governments... Oh my, Senor Negrito please go on!
i know, chile will be our entrance to the continent, then uruguay, casually placed between you and the argies
we will invade bolivia to help chile deal with them
and we will balkanize your country
after that we will be unstopable
well fuck it, i'm out
>Media brainwashes people with lame patriotism and to make them to believe they live better here than anywhere
just for my entertainment can you give me some examples of what Argentinians consider to make their country best in the world?
Ok, but the food is still great and the floor flat, that goes a long way believe me.
Underrated.
Our president is a jew m8. He hates Peru and the peruvian culture.
I like these LatAm threads, we never really hear much about anything past our southern border, with the exception being news involving Mexico sometimes.
why do you guys keep electing non-peruvian presidents? The majority of your population is at least a bit mixed right? Seems strange that you went from a jap to a very white looking jew
I really don't know about their matters, sorry
That's like having a Ferrari and living on a slum.
I mean, yes I agree on what we have and that life might be better than, say, El Salvador or Bolivia. We have everything to be first world, but we will not, due to those who control the country. They need to keep the status quo like it's today. This is not a "country" for them. It's a money machine. If shit hitted the fan they'll simply move away. In fact, in times when shit hitted the fan, the first places where police and gendaemerie were sent to patrol and defend were their neighbourhoods (San Isidro as an example)
Complacency and apathy is killing us
>floor flat
What does that means?
yeah, sorry just crossed my mind and I wanted to ask in a south american thread. How's social mobility in Argentina? Is there a reason that your ruling families are so fixed?
>How's social mobility in Argentina?
It was very good in the XX century, slowly declining after like the 60s. You could come here naked and end owning 2 houses.
Today is very, very difficult. That's why football, TV and politics are basically the only ways to effectively go from a slum to a house. Not even a MD can do it (btw local MDs are also replaced by foreigners who will do their job under the table and for a bunch of coins). Buying a house unless you already have the money is utopic, not only due to prices but also because property transactions are made on US dollar. Mortgages can be of decades long
>Is there a reason that your ruling families are so fixed?
I'd guess their material wealth, owning of media, factories, etc and their mutual play with politicians, the church, etc.
Also the extremely disproportionate salaries. A local politician or bureaucrat makes more money in € than a spanish one. Say, a spanish bureaucrat earns 5000 €, an argentine one can make 8000-9000 (in €).
An average salary (of a qualified worker) may go from 450€ to 700 € while in Spain it would be 900 - 1300 € if not more.
What would an civil engineer make?
Forgot to add to this, there's a "fraternity" style of thinking and behaving in those spheres. Most people only care about themselves and forget quickly where they come from when they enter those stratas.
It's a "us vs them" mentallity
Civil engineering and architecture are saturated fields. It also depends where you work.
I knew one who worked for the state from a decade and made circa 2000€ doing a lot of job . Then he had colleagues who lived in the province, also working for the state and making barely 500-700€. I'm not adding taxes and stuff there, the remaining money is less
Private job always pays more here though
A little detail i think you forgot is how removed from reality the upper classes are.
I go to a private university in cordoba, the second biggest city in the country and it feels like i am in a another world when i hang around them, they live inside a bubble, i kinda want to be with them all the time lol.
Nice thread brother. YOu are right, complacency is killing South America. Here in Ecuador the level of corruption and incompetence has reached embarrassment levels. It funny, the 2017 election here was basically a sham and everybody was quick to forget. Everyone is already happy and hoping that the asshole on the wheelchair we have as president somehow, miraculously does not turn out to be another commie(which he is). My only hope is that Venezuela completely falls within the next couple of months and the chaos that ensues is enough to awaken the people.
Yes. I know it directly as well. I despise them so much. Almost the same as the niggers and leftists.
Those people are the most obnoxious, hypocritical scum I've ever met, and at the same time the most stupid. How cut off from reality they are and still get with it, it genuinely escapes my understanding
>Everyone is already happy and hoping
That's pretty much the problem here as well. When something happens, the people just "hope" that things go ok or dom't turn out to be what they explicitly are, even if they are getting a finger shoved up their asses by the govt
Lol they ae groomed from birth to be the way they are, i remember a group of chetitos in the bar of the uni and sudendly a bunch of really hot chicks appear out of nowhere and they began to chat, they all knew each other from childhood they told me, is like in the colonial times minus the arranged marriage.
Fuck off Socialist ass-hat. Venezuela is one of, if not, the best Nation to live in Latin America. Your ruling class has worked fucking miracles for your ungrateful stoner ass. You can't give brown people a Democracy, they aren't smart enough. The would be mislead by an unaccountable pundit class and vote over retarded spic political lines. It's better if you just let people with high IQ's rule you. At least they respect you enough to be honest about it.
I have a friend i married. She is from argentina. After tearing my mom in emotional shreds ive totally ripped the marriage apart and had it court annulified. she used to slap me and more than likely slept with some nigger which i absolutely dread. Stick to white women anyway. How bad will it be if she is deported back? because she had everything on this marriage unitl she slept with someone else of course. Is it true she will be mugged in streets and robbed and raped? I totally find it to be bullshit. She will go by herself . Please answer op. This woman is shit and has torn every string of love i ever felt for her. After hurting my mother and proving me that there is no future for me and her together, it was that my vote for trump will be worth it.
Im sure she can find a job, im sure she can go to medical school as she planned. She graduated high school here and has a few college classes here in america. which i paid for... But quickly was refunded my money as she had applied for a hispanic scholarship of 3000$ (she only has a semester of classes)
That's pretty much how they are, yes.
As a partially related anecdote, some years ago, outta curiosity, I looked for one of my university teachers at goybook. I checked her friends list which was full of upper class milfs who posted lots of whorish pics of themselves (funniest thing is that a lot were public for goybook users). Most of them were married women (the stereotypical collagen lips, tits and ass, solar bed tan 40ish Belgrano neighbourhood women). Then, after one or two profiles, going from list to list, those people had among their friends top whores like Evangelina Anderson, Pamela David, Sandra Villaruel, etc on their friends lists (their real facebooks, with their real names, not fanmade. A lot were more protected), and slowly some wifes of politicians started appearing, media entrepeneurs, etc. I swear you this is true. I mean, mediocre people but of the money/high class sphere, probably linked due to who they are married. If you searched said profiles they didn't appear in the results, of course
It's as if those people formed some sort of circle where they know or at least are in contact with each other.
How do I get a cute argie weeb gf?
Hahaha argentina is small my man, we are just 40 millons here.
A lot of the people that go with me are sons of politicians, big-bussines i even have a filthy rich jew, the guy fits every stereotype of the jews in existence, shit is hilarious.
She'll probably gold dig somebody here.
> she will be mugged in streets and robbed and raped?
Maybe if she lived in a slum or walked nude in the Conurbano after the sun falls. We're not South Africa (yet). But from the description you give of her I seriously doubt she'll be frequenting those places, not even in a helicopter.
Go to an anime convention
u kinda hot. bikini shot?
I forgot to add online
You're right. We're not so many and also very concentrated in particular places
Maybe with some local anime group in goybook? I honestly don't know
she lives in buenos aires ( probably fucking up the spelling but hey its 2AM or 2 oclock here in florida america so yeah) shes a very evil person who gold digs whatever she can. She always told me "its good to have rich people as friends" and eventually told me that she doesnt love me. Once i threatened the anullment she was crying and refused to eat. But once it was over she just says "i lost the love of my life" which is bullshit. I dont give a fuck what happens to her, it just makes me feel less guilty about deporting. But its bullshit she lied to me that she loved me to try and get a fucking green card. Is an american degree valuable there or no?
dont
not saying that you deserve her, but you sure sound like a fucking mongoloid, m8.
You wver manage to fuck some qt dumb cheta?
I swear to god the ones who go with look like a gift from god, several of them a models.
trust me, meet the bitch and you will see, i dont have a fucking clue what Argentinians are like other than my experiences with her and her mom who totally fuck her life up coming to this country.
But how are you married to her if she lives here? You mean she moved back?
>Is an american degree valuable there or no?
Any degree from any institution of USA or Europe is prestigious here. But being that we're talking about medicine I honestly don't know how it's applied as there's no pre-med -> med school here, medicine is a single 7 year degree. I guess she'll need to legalize her papers
plus she had no ass cause she refused to eat until i took her out to dinner more. Usually my free time i ride on motorcycles with friends but she wanted fancy ass dinners. Shits expensive bro
no, she came to america illegally. I met her and dated her for a year until she broke it to me she was illegal. So i figured, this woman has treated me wonderful, and i figured we had a future. So i took a risk and married. Things went well until one month after marrying, my mom invited her for a monthly big family dinner to which she called her a bitch. my mom is a daycare teacher for three year olds bro. Then she cheated, then she did a bunch of horrible shit that is too long of a list to say, once i annulled her she got into some bad things and is facing having to move back to argentina.
there is so much to really list as to what happened. But she really did make argentina look like a shit pipe hole which im sure its not
I would be too if I was Argentinian
I believe you, what I'm trying to convey is that you're an idiot for getting into a relationship with someone like that since there were surely a shitload of red flags.
also, we are not Mexicans, we don't leave our country, if you meet an Argentine over there that didn't go because of a job (read, they went there in search of a better life) then you have to realize that they're either retarded or mentally ill, either way, stay as far as you can.
you do realize this is everywhere in every country now, everything is kiked and Catholiced, the church is even more a culprit then then kikes, they are the ones that own your birth certificate
Messi o Maradona? Y cuál es mejor: dios o Rosario Central?