This is from imperailism the working class uses imperialism to gain resources and wealth from other nations.
Japanese Imperialism 12.7 million
European colonialism:100 million
World war one: 17 million
Genocide of native Americans: 100 million
Russian civil war: 8 million
WW2 (result of WW1): 60 million
Greek civil war: 158,000
Korean civil war: 3-4 million
Indochina wars: 10 million
US actions in Latin America: 6.5 million
Western interventions in the Middle East: 6 million
US bombing of Yugoslavia: 300,000
Invasion of Philippines: 650,000
Malaysia:3,200
Western backed dictatorships all of which were backed by the west to maintain their interests and defend capitalism:Suharto:(Indonesia) 10 million
Greek Military Junta: 3,500
Ferdinand Marcos (Philippines): 220,000
Franco (Spain): 1 million
Saudi Monarchy:42,000
Khmer Rouge (Cambodia, the US did support it):2-3 million
Shah of Iran: 60,000
US backed Sri Lankan government: 30,000
Climate change caused by consumerism and capitalists putting profit before planet 10 million so far
Capitalists putting profit before people's safety:
Hurricane Katrina: 1,836
Pike River Coal Mine Explosion: 29
Grenfall tower: 79
Poverty: About 100 million people every 5.5 years
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The death toll of capitalism
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Capitalism and Communism are two sides of the same international Jewish coin. Capitalism is worse though.
>Being allowed to own private property literally kills people
>private property is exclusively capitalist
retard
>look at all these shitty things governments have done
>let's give all power to the government though, THIS TIME it will be real gommunism
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It sure is. Both Communists and Socialists believe in common ownership of property. They only differ when it comes to the means of production.
The lie that communism killed hundreds of millions of people is literally Nazi propaganda, look it up Joseph Gobbels came up with the idea.
It's not. There are non-capitalist ideologies with private property.
Nazi propaganda is literally truth
Not directly but you clearly know very little about Communism or dialectical materialism so I won't waste my time or your time.
>Nazi propaganda is literally truth
Hmmm and a hundred million people died you say?
Oh the population dropped around 1990 what a surprise when capitalism was reintroduced to Russia, so it seems the population was going UP under Communism and dropped when capitalism was forced onto the people of Russia because of poverty,perhaps?
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I never said capitalism was good, lol
>It's not. There are non-capitalist ideologies with private property.
Nope. Not possible by definition. If you're not allowed to privately own the means of production (capitalism), then you don't have a system of private property. Perhaps you should consider reading a book or two.
And the same trend happens in Ukraine too, does it seem like tens of millions of people were killed at any time?
Not an argument, kiddo.
>my propaganda is more truthful than your propaganda
notice how you conveniently left out deaths by USSR, Mao's China, and Khmer Rogue AMONG MANY OTHERS. Not to mention, that you seem to think that capitalism = imperialism, which it isn't (capitalism is just private property and voluntary trade and you don't need a government for that yet you list deaths by government lmfao)
basically ur retarded
>having one thing that is in common with capitalism makes you capitalist
Perhaps you should read the books instead. By your logic, fascism is capitalist.
I fully agree with you
Another gr8 b8
you realize that China has been adopting more and more capitalist policies, right?
right?
lmao
I didn't read my full message it was in the OP
They were doing that in 60's? Read the graph before you post.
name the alternatives to capitalism and list if they allow for private property
Fascism/Fascist ideologies
>everyone who ever died for any reason died because of capitalism
>he thinks people aren’t being born if a small percentage is being killed over a long time
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communism is predicated on the idea of a society of equal individuals, which is an oxymoron. It's is philosophically impossible to achieve. Individuality and equality are mutually exclusive states of being. Not to mention LVT has been debunked more times than I can count.
If you want to think of yourself as a poor person, I won't try to stop you. But your entire ideology is predicated on a philosophical lie.
Not an arguement
wrong, next
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>prageru
Jewish rubbish. Provide your own argument, or fuck off.
Fascism is neither right nor left.
explain why he's wrong, don't dismiss because he's speaking for prageru
>China's policies haven't changed at all since the 60's
Read up on China before you post
I really didn't want to have to explain this to you brainlets, but I'll give it a shot. Capitalism is a system that ALLOWS private ownership of the means of production. "Means of production" is any property that results in the creation of economic value. "Private ownership" is exclusive control over something. If you're not allowed to create economic value from your property then you do not privately own it. If you're not allowed to privately own property, you don't have a system of private property. Don't they teach this shit in school anymore?
>Soviets build wall to keep people in
>Soviets let no one leave their country
>Suddenly the borders are open and rich and free capitalist societies are ready to take those kulaks in
What do I know, but that would never happen right?
The population growth continued at the same rate during and after communism, there's no proof of mass killings.
Kys nigger
>100 gorillion
I hope you don't actually believe this
Not an argument.
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China has had huge growth in GDP
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I'm assuming that he's ranting on about Fascism being left wing, maybe ranting about it being right wing, but it's neither. Fascism is Fascism. Fascism doesn't fit on to a graph, Fascism is it's own thing, the worldview of Truth.
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>If anything at all is by private ownership it's capitalist
You are retarded.
>Greek civil war
Started by the commies
>Greek Military Junta
Army revolution as an extreme measure to stop the commies from taking power and turn us to Bulgaria or Albania
Please show me your source then
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>Khmer Rouge
>Hurricane Katrina
oh ok forget my answer
Capitalism gave you computer and internet.
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>Eastern Bloc governments argued that strict limits to emigration were necessary to prevent a brain drain. The United States and Western European governments argued that they represented a violation of human rights. Despite the restrictions, defections to the West occurred.
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>You are retarded.
If someone else can dictate whether or not you can create economic value from your property, then you do not privately own it. How is this difficult for you to understand? Do you even have a basic understanding of these concepts? Capitalism is the only system that allows full ownership of private property. All other systems are about restricting ownership in some way based on what triggers you retarded fucks in the moment.
>x was created under a capitalist government therefore capitalism is resonsible for x
That's actually a lie itself, so this is really a double lie where communists use lies to blame Nazi lies for their own lies about lying communists.
Or something.
Also, ur a fagit and I hope u git killed by communists for being a communist.
Fagit
Capitalism is the right of an individual to own property, and to use said property for commerce. That's it.
Don't attach failings of exploitative leftism to capitalism and try to spread some myth that it's the fault of capitalism that bad things happen.
Fact is that when evil scumbags are allowed to enrich themselves via an egalitarian capitalist system, the first thing they do is use their wealth to lobby for laws/regulations that limit or eradicate their competition. They then try to consolidate resources until they control most. This is known as CRONYISM, a pure leftist thing.
Not crony capitalism - that doesn't exist. That's an attempt by leftards to taint the idea of capitalism...Cronyism is its own thing, and it happens when govts sell out.
Your stats are also a load of bullshit. There was no "indian genocide" you leftard fuckwit.
Can you show me where I said that? Isn't it funny how you respond to new information?
Supported and made possible by the US
Too long, didn't read. I'll let you have the joy of knowing you just wasted your time typing out that rubbish.
>Capitalism is the right to own property
Wrong, it's an economic social structure which places the financial success of an individual or people as the foundation for society.
> capitalist
> government
Pick one and only one.
Go to bed, kid.
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There will always be a wealthy ruling class and a poor working class, regardless of the political or economic system at the time. Any attempt to change it in the name of 'equality' will be futile. It will just become the same old game under different rules.
>Too long, didn't read. I'll let you have the joy of knowing you just wasted your time typing out that rubbish.
LOL!!!!! I know you did, lying leaf. You just don't have an argument because you have no idea what any of these words mean. Remember the shame you're feeling right now next time you decide to pretend like you understand any of this..
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>capitalism
Literally not responsible for more that
half of the shit you listed.
>implying all other *isms arent responsible
for their own historical atrocities.
sage
Worse than futile. Every time you change it through revolution, 10 million people die.
Restoration of the Stuarts is good though.
Government is necessary for capitalism to function.
>lives saved by capitalism: too many to count
hurr durr war = capitalism
hurr durr mining accident = capitalism
hurr durr there wouldn't be ANY accidents OR wars in communism right!? (honestly you included the fucking Khmer in this), and of course, have a sage for your copypasta
Not an argument.
>10 million people die.
100 million die per decade under current capitalism
Isn't it crazy that a former poverty ridden shithole with a huge population modernizes?
Not an argument
>Not responsible
Prove it
>x was killed under a capitalist government therefore capitalism killed x
hey, this is fun!
still haven't given me a source for the "100 gorillion"
Your intellectually dishonest ass wouldn't know an argument if it bit you on the dick.
>Communism
Do people unironically still do this? Every time I see a thread about this subject, I immediately assume it's bait. I know there are a few retards out there that are braindead enough for this, but the frequency of these threads seems too high to be assumed bait.
This, but only kinda. Something like communism could work if it were implemented by nationalists in homogeneous nations.
So you deny any of these historical events happened?
God Troodayu, what have you made of Canada
Kotkin's can-point-at-specific-mass-deaths is 65 million killed by communism world-wide.
Of which, the USSR killed 18 million (not related to military violence), of which only a bit over 1 million were planned murders.
China was a bit down on the planned murder but way up on the equal opportunity death by starvation.
Not an argument. Holy fuck Sup Forumstards really are as dumb as I thought.
Saying not an argument is a shy way of saying you know I'm right.
> Japanese Imperialism 12.7 million
monarchism fights nazism, capitalists at fault
> European colonialism:100 million
monarchism fights tribalism, capitalists at fault
> World war one: 17 million
started because prince was killed, really makes you think
> Genocide of native Americans: 100 million
monarchism fights tribalism, also citation for 100 gorrilion needed
> Russian civil war: 8 million
kek
> WW2 (result of WW1): 60 million
socialists kill each other, capitalism at fault
> Greek civil war: 158,000
no idea let it be the start of our death toll then
> Korean civil war: 3-4 million
one side is clearly at fault and its 100% capitalism and totally not commie hell that is NK, holy kek
> Indochina wars: 10 million
socialits fight, capitalism at fault
> Western interventions in the Middle East: 6 million
power struggle between soviets and us, 50/50
> US bombing of Yugoslavia: 300,000
unironical race war now, has nothing to do with economical doctrine
> Invasion of Philippines: 650,000
i have no idea so lets add it
> Western backed dictatorships all of which were backed by the west to maintain their interests and defend capitalism:Suharto:(Indonesia) 10 million
oy vey dictatorship kills
> Malaysia:3,200
revolution dude lmao
> Greek Military Junta: 3,500
Military Junta
>Ferdinand Marcos (Philippines): 220,000
no idea, adding up
>Franco (Spain): 1 million
has nothing to do with capitalism
>Saudi Monarchy:42,000
MONARCHY
>Khmer Rouge (Cambodia, the US did support it):2-3 million
as opposed to what exactly?
>Shah of Iran: 60,000
as opposed to what once again?
>US backed Sri Lankan government: 30,000
no idea, adding up
>Climate change caused by consumerism
[citation needed]
>Capitalists putting profit before people's safety
oy vey
> Poverty: About 100 million people every 5.5 years
oy vey
So thats gonna be 4mils and only because i don't care enough to research to btfo it right of the bat.
#capitalismkills
Still not an argument.
Please give me the source where it says that "100 million" were killed.
>Your intellectually dishonest
> Your
> intellectually dishonest
I don't think you know what any of these words mean.
Check your meme flag for a second there.
The OP is not new information. It is convoluted bullshit. With a claim such as that, you are going to need some damn good citations, and causal links.
2.5 million people die in the US each year because of capitalism
Yes, your. I didn't mean you are, i meant your.
Seeing your memeflag, I can tell you have the intellectual capacity of a toddler as well.
Following the communist coup that was supported and made possible by USSR. Fun fact, Greek commies in the 80's were trying to convice people that Albania is a heaven on earth and that we are very dump to not letting the commies win the war, as we would be in the same heaven with them now. After Hontza's fall, we finally saw what this heaven looked like.
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>Great confession
No, that's just people dying you absolute retard
Source?
It wasn't an argument. It's a question.
I would like for you to refute my first reply, it should be easy seeing as how it isn't an arguement
What was your argument? Are you one of the commies?
Are you a Zhirik fan?
NOT AN ARGUMENT SHITLORD