So i realized a trend a long time ago, most shows only go up to 2 seasons, with usually a cliffhanger ending the show. What happen to long term anime that actually conclude the plot and have us invest in the show? To be honest i'm kind of sick of it, there literally no show worth watching cause they all end like this.
>The only exception was like Jojo
Angel Ward
Those times are all gone like tears in the rain.
Isaac Price
Is there even a point to watch any new shows if you know they won't end?
Kevin Harris
bump
Leo Adams
Each Konosuba season ends well. Comedy and SOL generally end well, really.
Charles Gutierrez
No. And it doesn't matter if it sells well or not. You're fucked anyway because the number of episodes or seasons is planned in advance and that will not change.
Leo Sanders
Well you can always do what the Milky Holmes fans did a few years ago and threaten the studio with a mass suicide if they didn't make a new season.
Noah Perez
I would be okay with it the season ending, but most shows just stop at season 2 with the conclusion being "Oh we're continuing the journey btw!"
>Madaka box >seraph of the end >World god only knows >Baka to test >Magical index >Shokugeki no souma
Because of this system i'm watching shows like fucking Rwby because i at least know the shows not gonna fucking tease me with a cliffhanger and be "nah we done"
Xavier Lewis
>i'm watching shows like fucking Rwby
Carson Ortiz
Lol i'm pretty sure that show was terrible
Lincoln Brown
Most are advertisement anyway, enjoy your newness user.
Jose Wood
Yo you right, look at how shit its become.
To fill the shitty gap anime is
Cameron Edwards
Most anime based on LNs is just an advertisement for the LNs. The whole point is for you to go out and buy the rest of the story on LNs. The production companies literally don't care about finishing the anime, it was never even part of the plan. This is why you should try to avoid LN animes.
Robert Carter
just read the damn books
Levi Ortiz
Thats what i've been doing, but literally most shows are adaptions of something, no originality anymore.
Aaron Taylor
You even remotely care about the show you could always just continue on and read the fucking source material that's usually at least twice as good as the dumb anime you dumb fucking idiot but no that would never occur to you because you're fucking stupid
Adrian Sullivan
Who are you quoting?
Charles Brown
Watching anime is the hobby, not fucking reading. I want sound, effects and animations, if i wanted to read i'll read, if i want anime tits i want anime tits
Adrian Hernandez
And it's absolutely fucking stupid. Here's a product made by dozens of people, it includes music, voice acting, animation, multiple artistic inputs of all kinds. It took time and resources. It's made to promote some shitty short novel some asshole typed in his basement. Please buy it and read on your japanese commute to your shitty workplace.
Tyler Peterson
It's really a shame because I notice with LN adaptations, the characters tend to be a lot better.
Dylan Lopez
And now you see the problem in the industry. This shit is gonna fall on itself eventually. You can't have a whole industry where its main product it's not even its main product. The anime industry ends up relying more and more on obsessive weebs who only want pandering shows, you can't live on that forever.
Ryder Baker
i will if i invested, but there a difference then watching an anime to reading a book
Isaiah Jackson
>Magical index
That's what you think buddy.
Thomas Howard
I watch anime to watch anime, not to read poorly written fan fiction tier writing.
Jackson Jenkins
Yeah the LN is finished, the fan-based moved on... there is almost no chance of them going in the story
Agreed
Lincoln White
>>The only exception was like Jojo While an argument for what you're noticing does exist, I'm really getting the feeling you're just some newfriend who recently "graduated" from Jump anime to late night anime and are all of a sudden wondering "what gives?"
Gavin Long
So it's ok if the poorly written fanfic writing comes with moving pictures and sound?
Sebastian Flores
Man, OP just realizing this and want things to go his way is making me internet angry.There is new and there is new and retarded. Oh look, retard is watching shit like rwby.
Justin Bennett
Yeah reading is ten times faster easier and better. The anime is usually some half assed adaptation that makes you want to read the LN, over the anime it's only drooling retards that watch the anime and end up coming out wanting more of the schlock instead of the original
Carson Baker
>Yeah the LN is finished, the fan-based moved on... there is almost no chance of them going in the story
What world are you from my dude?
Carter Edwards
Studio Shaft said they will adapt Monogatari in its entirety so there's one series besides Jojo I guess.
Levi Perez
Production companies don't give a fuck. They quite literally are pumping out this LNs at the speed of light. And unlike the American book market a lot of this LNs are just pandering fantasies with mad libs thin plots. But LNs are way cheaper to produce so they use anime only as an ad to get people to buy the higher profit margin LN. Most anime nowadays has zero interest in being interesting art
David Morgan
I mean it is an issue right? you have to agree how anime is basically a commercial for their source material, and that no originality or care is put into it except for the rare exceptions.
Jordan Hernandez
You're painting with a brush that's way too broad. Or, you're narrowing in on LN adaptations.
Luke Evans
You don't miss those days where anime were just fun to watch with great stories and characters to get invested into? now there just cash grabs, i mean of course i'm disappointment, i feel like anyone who likes anime should be.
Jackson Smith
Index LN is still ongoing in the form or New Testament, the fanbase is thriving and a 3rd season of the anime is on the way.
Christian Martin
Same for manga too
Benjamin Garcia
>a 3rd season of the anime is on the way. cute
Julian Perez
You mean when our catalog of anime was limited to what Toonami and Adult Swim ran?
Julian Morales
dude, don't hope on it... its been years. The animations studios moved on
Xavier Young
I can understand why you'd think I'm memeing. Still, do some research.
Levi Flores
Well the long term shows that you loved, inuyasha, yu yu hakusho, sailor moon, DBZ just the classic anime that had a long run
Jack Morales
Yes but they did get a new season.
Henry Moore
At least those stories had a beginnings and an ends. Unlike this "lol go buy the LN, continue the adventure senpai" endings.
Isaac Collins
yep the milky suicide worked >I watched the first episode and it was trash[/spoiler]
Mason Butler
Anime like that still exist. The problem is that you are now aware of so many anime that aren't like that because you aren't depending on western middlemen to give you anime anymore.
Angel Gutierrez
I'm talking about new shows with no ending. Those shows still exist, but they came years ago. Detective Conan and one piece don't count..... and yeah i'm watching those....
Elijah Stewart
How much money have you put into the anime industry? How many BDs do you own? Oh that's right, ZERO. Who do you think is going to pay for all the crap you're asking for?
Asher Myers
I'd rather have a cash grab series than having "lets beat the dead horse" series to watch since fortunately I got the ability to choose.
Joseph Hill
So basically you're looking for recommendations.
Ethan Edwards
You actually have a great point, but i don't buy the Dvd i have netflix supporting somes showes and the anime lead me to buying the mangas which is kinda like killing itself since none of the money goes to the animation studios. Why don't they go with the american rating system? Where they paid by commericals, and views?
You right you do, but all those shows will have cliffhangers and leave you blue balled
Brandon Johnson
sure, whatcha got mate?
Nolan Moore
You just made me remember Spice and Wolf. Fuck I will never get over this adaptation. >inb4 read the LN THE COMEDIC DELIVERY IN THE LN ISN'T THE SAME DAMN IT
Wyatt Jackson
And you will never get a 2nd season!
Andrew Diaz
there was a second season, but it was a shitty "the journey continues" ending and overall not much happened plot-wise
David Ross
Anime are generally just advertisements for the source material. News at 10.
Isaac Stewart
well then... i feel for you...
Joseph Richardson
Even the anime producers know it's an inferior medium, fit only for advertising a superior one.
Why can't you realize it?
Wyatt Robinson
then explain this! Clearly someone cared about this one
Kayden Baker
Fuck off with your long winded rec thread nigger and fuck off to
Justin Robinson
Is Trigger the only company who can save this medium?
Cooper Perez
I don't think i'm black, and i don't like comics. I like anime ya faggot
Jose Harris
I can still feel the Raildex fans' rage resonate. Stay strong, you guys.
Jaxon Murphy
It's not related to anime in general but to LN to anime conversions. There's basically a certain balance that they try to achieve since publishers wants you to buy the LN AND watch the anime, not just do one or the other, this is also true for manga conversions, it can end up being more lucrative to have the anime just be some kind of long advertisement than a full fledged product. After all the biggest revenue from the animu industry are goods, they want you to BUY shit and give them money directly instead of getting them from sponsors on TV.
James King
Not even they didn't even finish Inou-Battle in the Usually Daze, but they're going in a better direction
Hunter Martinez
Didn't Index just get a season 3?
Joseph Bailey
s3 soon(tm)
Angel Sanders
Where do you think we are?
Connor Jenkins
who told you that?
Jason Butler
I agree OP and its really sad Thats why I mostly watch old anime where you could tell there was an attempt at storytelling instead of being nothing more than an ad for merch
Jaxson Allen
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Kevin Morales
Kek. You're so mean, user.
Cooper Thompson
Let's not be ridiculous here, past animes had their fair share of pandering and merchandising. Do I have to remind you of shit like Love Hina, Maison Ikkoku or just anything from Rumiko Takahashi. Hell mecha and superhero shows were literally made to sell toys.
Cameron Taylor
Anons not realising that the Anime is only a marketing vehicle for sales of the Manga.
Why have a fulfilling end when you have to go out and by the REAL product? Yes user. your hobby is adverts.
Ryan Thompson
Nice strawman, I never said or implied any of that. Of course merch was always a factor but never this bad
Jason Garcia
actually we just got a movie
futari wa and the idolshit just barely count as Milky Holmes
Kevin Wood
Oh look its looney toons with underage girls. Trigger should just move to america already.
Isaac Price
You were implying nothing, you've stated that past animes had more care with plots and less with merchandising which is false I gave you an example of anime that were just as bad, if not worse, than the generic shit we get nowadays.
Justin Jenkins
Why do you faggots always think having more is better? Further seasons are always worse, always. Fuck you.
Ryder Lewis
>which is false No it isnt.
Jackson Martinez
>Further seasons are always worse, always.
Elijah Wilson
Really ? For every Harlock there was a Ranma 1/2. For every Galaxy 999 there was a Love Hina. For every Sailor Moon there was a CC Sakura. The shows back then could be as good or bad as the shows nowadays.
Sebastian Lewis
And today things like Harlock dont even exist and could never exist without a big LN or manga behind it. So yes shit has gotten worse in that regard
Luke Williams
Its not about having more season, its about ending the show properly. Most shows don't even have an ending, thats why i hate it.
Juan Hall
If the manga is still continuing they should continue until it ends.
>Not deviate from the source material and end a series in 2 seasons when there are 7 seasons worth of anime >Imagine if Game of Thrones series ended in 2 seasons with a false ending. When there are like 6 books of A Song of Ice and Fire
Nolan Perry
Remember when anime adaptations had original anime endings and people hated it?
Jack Bell
Why are you comparing novels and film with manga and anime? The two industries could not be further apart. Anime adaptations are ads for the manga, it is literally as simple as that, I don't know why this is hard to comprehend.
Jace Watson
>comparing a AAA live action series to anime
user, come the fuck on. You realize how fucking niche anime is right, when selling 10k is a major achievement.
Parker Gonzalez
Thats one way they handled it, and everyone hated it. Maybe idk WAIT? But then people will argue the fan base would leave... lol anime amiright
Brandon Walker
Stop being a moron.
Zachary Murphy
>My hobby is trash, corporations are always right! Think of the profits man! >The state of Sup Forums
Eli James
Code Geass, Gurren Lagann, Madoka Magica, Kill la Kill, LWA, etc., what you're saying is simply not true, the industry is still willing to take risks today as it was back then. The only difference is that studios are bigger and profits are a bigger concern.
Jaxon Parker
Why do they hate themselves and demean their own interests?
Samuel Robinson
Someone gets it
Chase Butler
What do you want? Its a business and as things stands is this or nothing. The OVA market didnt die on purpose killed by jews it died because no one was buying anymore this led to the current state of having to look for sponsors There is no place for independent animators because animation is expensive and not enough people want to pay for it Its reality user
Ryder Brown
I hated all those shows So maybe I just like 80s style anime better.
Hudson Hughes
>aku no Hana >Alien 9 >Baccano! >Berserk >Black lagoon >Darker than black >Date a live >Elfen lied >Fmp >Baki >gunslinger girl >Kaiji >World God only knows >kiss x sis >Kodomo no jikan >Log horizon >Narutaru >Mysterious girlfriend X >Rozen maiden >Shimoseka >Trigun >usagi drop FUCK ANIME! Why do I keep falling for it? No really, I invested 4-8 hours into these fuckers, and I got no fucking payoff. These fuckers should learn how to end shows. From now on, I'm gonna do my research, and only watch shows that have an ending.
Owen Ward
>tfw noragami season 3 never
Jaxon Harris
>Log horizon pay denbts
Brody Collins
>as things stands is this or nothing I'd take nothing, frankly. Either finish a series properly, or don't waste my time and toy with my expectations.