By definition they are male who are slowly losing their masculanity and become more feminine themselves , this is a result of the cultural marxist belief of toxic masculanity.
There are different kinds of bugmen traits which can create different kinds of bugmen , but the most common traits have to be: >Liberal views >Out of touch with reality >Nihilistic views >Enjoy poorly written psuedo intellectual entertainment >Consumerists >Veganism (Which results in physicical feminine results) >Pornography and masturbation (Slippery slope included) >Atheism
As mentioned before , these traits combined can create different kind of bugmen.
>The Berniebro Your common liberal who paints his hair in unnatural colors (Better watch out nazi's!).
>Weeb The fedora tipping , atheist anime lover enthusiast. His blade has been folded 1000 times and he learns the Japanese language to eventually become an english teacher in the land of the rising sun.
>The gamer Low testosteron from jacking off everyday to increasinly more disturbing porn and has put 1 year worth of his parents in his gaming rig.
Nicholas Green
Bugmen bump
Sebastian Richardson
Interesting. Have a bump
Robert Martinez
sums it up pretty good
Jordan Russell
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Oliver Hernandez
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mothers
Xavier Jenkins
also friendly reminder this describes all of Sup Forums despite the liberal views and veganism bit lmao
Carson Gutierrez
>Mfw i'm raised by a single mom and became a National socialist >Hitler also was mainly raised by his mother Hmm...
Anthony Morales
we're a generation of men raised by women. our fathers abandoned us, and while some managed to resist the eternal childhood mindset, most of us are just dead bugs on the windshield of modernism. I feel bad for them, i really do
Hunter Kelly
I'm interested to hear what you all think constitutes masculinity.
I've actually been pondering this recently, simply put, what I've come up with so far is that a real man gives more than he takes.
Kayden Garcia
>Liberal views It's not just liberal views, but also a sort of cult-like, blind devotion to "being on the right side of history" (as if they know enough about history or current events to be sure of that). A good example of this was Reddit during the whole net neutrality debacle. People ate of the meme of "Ajit Pai = the bad guy" like he's the supervillain in a superhero movie.
William Ross
I could name a few: >As you said , gives more than he takes >Has the ability to protect his loved ones >Is a strict and disciplined example for his children >A good neighbour >Logical rather than emotional
Christopher Butler
>soyboy >bugmen these terms are too bloody hilarious, mainly because of how accurate the terms themselves are.
Ethan Lopez
>our father's abandoned us speak for yourself
Hudson Morales
Why is it that I can spot one? That I can tell before it ever opens it's mouth?
William Taylor
You never got into fights or played sports with neighbor kids or got into misadventures wandering around as a kid?
Joshua Martin
Video games aren't necessarily bad. The most red pilled game of all times tried to warn us about soyboys.
Brayden Barnes
I find it interesting as well.
My theory is that on a subconscious level men are being emasculated by dense populations. Basically you never really see them except in cities where their space is limited but they get everything they need like big babies.
Jason Williams
Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet.
Jose Gomez
You just made me fell a little less crazy.
Thanks!
Ethan Richardson
Isn't the bugman the soyboys final form though?
Chase Hall
Lol that guy should speak for himself. My dad was masculine as fuck and didnt tolerate any whining on my behalf. Hell even my mom is/was the same way
Grayson Sullivan
There are plenty of conservative skinny little bitches too bud. Your theory that these people are the way they are because of political and social views is fucking stupid.
Landon Wilson
I still feel just as crazy, but it is nice to not be alone.
Christian Morris
Isn't that exactly how the Mouse Utopia experiment went?
Bentley Turner
that's not masculinity, that's psychopathy and this is counter intuitive if you want masculinity to remain within society. humans should always help fellow human beings, not cause divide.
Aaron Ramirez
yeah, aka Cycle of History, Strauss–Howe Generational Theory, Kali Yuga, Bozo Explosion, etc. They all are really talking about the same thing.... Once its no longer necessary to nature to select for "conservative / patriarch" traits, things will go haywire and eventually collapse. At which point conservative / patriarch traits will again come into very high demand and they cycle will begin anew. We were cursed at being born into the haywire / collapse point of the cycle....however its possible that our words and deeds will serve as the catalyst and be remembered by the future generation of men that will rebuild from the ashes. (ie. maybe statues built to us, but the glory will go to a future generation)
Luke Martinez
They are balding, have weak frame, big, soulless shark eyes and wear either skinny Jeans or some sort of Pop culture attire. It is not hard to spot one.
Josiah Hall
Technology has a big role to play in the pussification of millennial men.
Lincoln Rodriguez
I'll ad one. The incel. This group encompasses several phenotypes such as the white knight, or a niceguy.
Said individuals have no or very little expierience with women and believe they are owed sexual gratification. They typically employ effeminate manipulation tactics to attempt to gain sexual access. This limp wristed feminine behabior being incredibly unattractive to the female typically results in rejection which triggers the second aspect of the Incel.
A rage fueled entitlement rant in which the incel responds to rejection with assorted guilt-tripping and name calling. A "nice guy" or "white night" who was only seconds before attempting to gain sex by being over agreeable and gushing about respecting women will suddenly begin berating a girl for not sleeping with him exposing his true narcissistic and entitled colors.
Pic related. Note effeminate emotional manipulation followed by barbed insults and attempted guilt tripping.
Joshua Evans
Agreed. Any time you want to meet a right wing soy-boy just go hang around a MGTOW thread. Theyre chock full of whiney spoiled little 19 year olds who honestly think theyre so important that refusing to date or get laid amounts to some sort of protest that anyone actually cares about.
Seriously, theyre so delusional that once the circlejerk gets started about how they had a shitty 2 month relationship at age 20 thier life is basically over and life isnt worth living anymore anyone who has anything to say other than a whiney sob story is immiediatley declared a roastie.
These guys legitimatley think theyre so important that gangs of women stalk them on the internet to try to shill them back into the dating game.
If thats not entitled effeminate soy-boy narcissism then I really dont know what is.
John Allen
Here's what separates the masculine from the feminine.
Do you desire women? Or do you desire to be desired by women?
Benjamin Barnes
how does that have to do with anything people want to be disired by the sex they are attracted to.
Colton Ross
It's simple, the latter involves caring about what women think, the former does not.
Colton Cox
You know nothing about what MGTOW is or what’s the purpose of it. Simply put we guys refuse to marry roasties cause we don’t find the system to be fair, instead the whole system is geared towards female divorce and rewards them with custody of offspring and your hard earned cash.
Never once has anyone stated that one in MGTOW should not fuck women, some might go this route and that’s their preference but most don’t. I fuck women but refuse to date, I’m extremely content with my life and will not stop doing the things I like to get married and be told what to do.
Matthew Rogers
Thats stupid cryptic nonsense. Every straight male alive desires both.
A man's first role is as provider and protector.
His next role is as leader and commander of his family unit. He makes drcisions that he knows are in his and his family's best interests.
His 3rd and final, but most important role is as a mentor to his children. He must provide a solid and stable emotional bedrock to support his family's development and temper the raw emotion of his wife with reason and wisdom.
Brayden Richardson
Looks like I baited one out. So please, go on. Tell us all about the hoardes of women out to get you and how you deserve so much better than what every other man who has ever existed has had to put up with.
Blake Barnes
To expand: The masculine man does not aim to be desired, he simply through his own self-affirmation rises to become one desired by women. He then meets one of those women who desire them and start a relationship. Fundamentally, a masculine man is one who's self-esteem is independent of whether women desire him or not.
The feminine man does aim to be desired. Thus, he engages either in PUA, becomes a feminist, adheres to the wishes of all the women he meets, white knights, et cetera. Fundamentally, a feminine man is one who's self-esteem is dependent on what women think of him.
Logan Allen
You’re projecting some of your own fears and insecurities heavily on me. Ask yourself why you’re doing this, I know what modern women are and knowing this I play their game but in this case they think I want a commitment but in reality I never wanted anymore than their axe wound for my satisfaction to then dump for a new one.
Aaron Howard
Thats just one aspect of masculinity. Theres many facets to it. The main problem is that MANHOOD(tm) has become a brand one purchases instead of an ideal to strive towards living up to.
Young men raised by single women instinctivley try to be masculin but really dont have any role models to base thier behavior on. Well, not any POSITIVE role models.
So the drink BEER cuz everyone with a penis LOVES BEER! and they buy old spice speed stick, and buy fast cars, and chase shitty floozies because every MAN chases whores!
They spend thier entire lives trying to replace father figures with products that utilize advertising to pluck at the void in such peoples lives. The problem with masculinity and femininity is that peoples concepts of such are increasingly built on cheap flimsy watered down advertising instead of real traditions and values.
Evan Kelly
Look, you guys have been on here since 2004. MGTOW is just incels, nice guys, and white nights dressing themselves up in some psuedointellectual bullshit.
End of the day its just lonley single guys bitching about thier ex or the girl who rejected them. Heres a revolutionary thought: if your relationships are terrible maybe its not the other 8 billion people on this planets fault. Maybe its your own choices.
Justin Gomez
>Atheism getting real fucking tired of you christcucks thinking this movement is about you. Eat shit OP
Josiah James
man, you sound like a kissless incel kek.
Wyatt Bennett
An user checked in on his best friend from high school while home for the holidays, for the first time in 6 years. He's become a peak millennial. Vape THC erryday, balding, vegan. Microdosing LSD. Exclusively food service employment. He's acquired the blank psychedelic stare and the collectivist political views to match. Is there any way back for such a creature? During our conversation I tried a few times to break through the conditioning subtly but its like words flow around him and cant break through the blankness of his stare to touch the old him. everything that exists for him is good vibes, and everything outside that is fascist. fuck these feels
Jack Martin
> Low testosteron from jacking off everyday
What's the difference? Jacking off and having sex? The body ultimately gets similar if not the same responses.
So having lots of sex = lower test? This is just fearmongering bullshit from the typical bullshit from the lanky greedy protestant dutch.
Brody Campbell
I don’t remember that being in Metal Gear Solid 2
Robert Flores
then maybe get these deadbeat dads to look after their kids instead of blaming it on everyone else?
Benjamin Rogers
>think he sucks with women because he's too nice >secretly has some right wing political views but is too big of a pussy to admit it publicly >very close to his mother
Juan James
>Not going vegan
Andrew Wright
>t. fedora tipper
OP is right tho, they didnt say anything about christiaity, soyboy.
Brody Russell
this.
Benjamin Kelly
>masculinity is doing everything women tell you to do
Carter Johnson
>strawmanning because hes been called out on his bullshit
not making yourself look any better here mr triggered.
Jeremiah Cruz
That’s a lot of words for saying nothing
David Stewart
I'm an atheist and not a soyboy, sorry christcuck.
Cameron Jenkins
Post jaw
Easton King
>Look, you guys have been on here since 2004. MGTOW is just incels, nice guys, and white nights dressing themselves up in some psuedointellectual bullshit.
Opinion
>End of the day its just lonley single guys bitching about thier ex or the girl who rejected them. Heres a revolutionary thought: if your relationships are terrible maybe its not the other 8 billion people on this planets fault. Maybe its your own choices
You speak roastie heavily, I wonder are you gay or really effeminate? I’m seriously asking this cause I can’t help but find your words full of emotion and calling out for the approval of others.
Stop putting words in people’s mouth, nobody is bashing women, nobody is “angry” at them. I’m certainly not.
Brandon Brown
> muh video games are bad
shut the fuck up, videogames are just another form of entertainment, like reading or watching series or watching soccer.
reading tons of novels, watching too many series or too much football will also count as a soyboy.
Kayden Edwards
so's he.
Hudson Foster
It's amazing how triggered a tradthot gets when you state that her opinion is inconsequential to an actual masculine man. You women are no different than the single mothers that indoctrinate their sons into become feminists.
Joseph Hernandez
le tall asian meme
kys
Aiden White
And now having run out of psuedo intellectualism to spout he lapses into ad hominem.
Cameron Williams
lmao at everything masculinity is voerrated
Gavin Wood
>typical triggered incel projection and rambling
thanks for proving my point bro, kek. stay kiss less (yeah, kisses from your mom dont count soyboy!)
Aiden Williams
Don’t be sorry. It just makes it easier to spot how stupid you are.
Dylan Myers
You didn’t answer the question fatty
Jackson Barnes
>Out of touch with reality >Nihilistic views >Atheism
Yaa groveling on your knees to some 2000 year old dead rabbi because you're too afraid to admit you're going to die ("We're going to live forever in the clouds") is strong and masculine. It's "in touch with reality".
Realizing this is your one life to live is weak and effete.
Call it nihilistic if you want, I prefer my wisdom and ability to accept the hard truths of real life over your pathetic fantasies.
Alexander Moore
Stupid because I don't worship a zombie kike? ah gotcha.
Ryan Watson
He's beyond help mate. Just hope he doesn't somehow reproduce through some type of cosmic accident or oversight
Jordan Gray
underrated post. consumer masculinity is the jew inside the gates
Luis Gonzalez
Men do women are
Jackson Thomas
>Masturbation
You mean excesive masturbation as pulling the duck it's a natural thing for men, you jacked off while you were still inside your mom.
>Atheism Because submiting your mind and beliefs to something you are not really sure exists is the manliest it gets.
If you need a God to feel secure about your existance you are really just a pussy, fix your existencial shit with reality, dont join stupid cults.
The rest I agree.
Ethan Roberts
Hardly. I can talk that kind of stuff up if I want but it didn’t feel like an integral part of my childhood at the time.
Brody Ross
Sex daily also isn't good for you.
Don't have sex more than twice a week. It has physical dangers and mental. You don't want your marriage to be based of sex.
Benjamin Carter
I equate it to a deadly combination of narcissism and pure stupidity. Nothing is worth than someone who's incredibly stupid (but can sound smart) thinking they are geniuses. That is pretty much everyone born after the 80's and most born in since the 70's
Just a world full of incredibly stupid people being pushed in a direction that they dont understand only thing they know is that they are always right.
Joseph James
Bump for more information
Christian Gutierrez
They’re likely different neurochemically. Ever felt the difference between masturbating using imagination and using porn? Multiply that difference by quite a bit.
Masturbating to porn is literally a cuckhold behavior and could trick your brain into being a beta male. The brain is a strange organ my dude.
Adam Sanders
No. Sex is not bad for you if done With a mongomous partner. >T.Atheist Gamer FapGOD Do you ever wonder if youre the real dumbass. If not, you are the same as the people you hate. They are literally replacing their tribal nature with god. Instead of worshipping great men and trying to become one of them, they choose the easy way out and worship an unreachable ideal. They are no different from Nihillists and/or leftists.
James Scott
>>Veganism (Which results in physicical feminine results)
False.
Brody Price
Screen capped user, great summary
Michael Gomez
triggered soyboi detected
Aaron Jackson
likewise user. i think our use of the concept "masculine" actually refers to fundamental principles in complex networks -- the "gravity" of how life itself works. read up on kauffman networks for the primer. The wikipedia entry is insufficient for the full implications. "At home in the universe" is the starting point.
where it has led me is concluding there is some greater truth to yin and yang, or male/female dualism. What Kauffman shows is that life exists, not just as evolution acting on random chance, but by the tension between an explosive creation and mixing (I theorize feminine) and the destructive/selective evolution (I theorize masculine).
These forces are much older and more powerful than male and female as we know them as humans today -- they are as old as when chemicals first mixed in ancient oceans (female) and a wall was built around them to form the first living cell (exclusionary/selective/destructive to mixing). Our modern ideals of male and female intersect with these ancient forces. And we need both in equal measure to sustain life. Kauffman also shows the fate of the overly female (dissolution/chaos/formlessness) and the fate of the overly male (stagnation on a single strategy, or arrogance if personified, or being blindsided by sudden ecosystem shifts, unresponsive). To be clear, Kauffman shows what these states & fates look like in a simulated Boolean net of sufficient complexity. It is mathematical.
so what does the masculine do? he separates, he gives order, he selects which inputs from society affect him rather than to let societal forces mix inside and affect him indiscriminately. He is unafraid to say "no" as a result. This is the source of the power of Donald Trump, and is also why women & betas really have trouble saying "no" to things. It's why Evola says that women are the source of magical power, and men tap into that power to wield and control
tldr; build the wall, its what men do.
Dominic Morgan
Watch Vegan Gains. Vegan diets are fine. There's a correlation between leftists and people who choose to go vegan, but soy (etc) isn't making people effeminate, and claiming otherwise is just making us look stupid.
Cameron Anderson
Yes interesting. A bit far out maybe but I would hazard a guess in the future it will be found a parasite is the cause of these people.
Jacob Wood
he talks like a little girl and gets really triggered like some high school girl.
Brayden Thompson
This guy gets it.
Logan Sanders
This is 10/10.
Jaxon Ward
How about the radical over-simplification of any issue? Against gay marriage = you're against love Against wide-open borders = you hate immigrants For voter ID check = you hate the poor Jail for violent criminals = racist
Jonathan Bell
Have a you user.
Luis Moore
Another you
Jayden Rogers
>soyboy detected
I don't want "masculinity to remain within society... Society will fall, like they always do, and "males" will rebuild the world once more and be regifted their place by necessity...
Reforms are possible, but unlikely to be enough... Women must be constrained in their sexual power, and men must die so that the surviving males have greater value...
The only thing I've learned from this thread is that nobody knows what it is to be a man, but we each have our own opinion on what a man should be. So, I guess attracting a woman and replacing yourself at the very least, that could be considered a win. Pass on what you've learned to your kid and hope he does a little better than you, and then he passes on what he knows. So on, so on and our race continues.
Brandon Harris
That's the problem with single mothers - they don't raise moderate normies, they raise extremes - bugmen, serial killers etc
Adam Evans
This.
Jace Adams
this is nu-male 101 logic.
"Masculinity is whatever I want it to be, mummy said so".
Charles Wood
>if your relationships are terrible maybe its not the other 8 billion people on this planets fault. Maybe its your own choices.
