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Is Ciel getting rid of India? After bearing with his shit for so long. What a waste.
What did he see
If the two Ciels theory isnt true, the author would be quite the troll
This series can't possibly still be going on, can it?
>Soma reacts like someone friendly opened the door
>Agni gets shocked over what he saw on the photo
>This page
It's double Ciel
But it is
I really hope the 2 Ciels theory is true. Most of the Nip fandom believes it is. Only retarded Western whales hate it because they got used to mistranslation from years ago.
I dont frequent Black Butler threads.
What's the two Ciels theory?
Ciel had a twin and he was actually the real Ciel and he was the one who got killed the night of the sacrifice to invoke Sebastian. You should check the thread on bb forum. There is a lot of evidence.
Ciel has a twin brother, or sister. It's the twin who got sacrificed when Sebastian was summoned
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It's more obvious than R+L=J
I hope india declares war now, fuck Britain.
Or he was a body double and not his real brother.
>sister
Don't invent bullshit now. All the clues show that if twin there is it's a boy. You think Lizzie wouldn't know the difference between a boy and a girl?
>body double
S2 Animefag not allowed itt.
Ciel has a twin or at least a body double. The original Ciel, the son of the Phantomhives, died/was the sacrifice. The current "Ciel" is the other one having assumed his identity afterwards.
>India the colony declaring war on it's master Britain
Look all I'm saying is that Ciel can easily pass for a girl.
Body double wouldn't made sense because why would Vincent introduce both of them.
And a twin wouldn't make sense because there would be no reason to hide his identity and pretend to be Ciel if he was a legitimate Phantomhive anyway.
Clearly papa phantomhive had a mistress and current Ciel is the bastard offspring who just happens to look a great deal like the original. He assumed Ciel's identity so he could legally inherit without any fuss to further his revenge plans.
Because shy Ciel aka the one we know was always a very weak child with asthma and he would have been taken advantage more than real Ciel. Also it's probably because shy Ciel felt guilt over being the one to survive while he believed his brother should have and so he took over his identity. Wouldn't be the first twin story with that scenario.
Twin theory makes plenty of sense, body double doesn't and only Aloisfags like it. No wonder they have shit taste.
Has anyone seen the movie?
Because it wasn't about being a Phantomhive. It was about being Ciel. Ciel was the popular twin.
Which movie? The live action one?
The fact that they made Ciel a girl and moved the whole setting to Japan iirc made me not watch it. And yes, if in the end it's revealed that Ciel is a girl which I don't buy since Yana was a BL mangaka before Kuro, I will sell all my Kuro manga volumes.
The boat arc got animated
Is it out in dvd already?
They wouldn't do that. All the fujoshits like you would burn down there hq. Then again that would he fun to see
India moved to touch him, which is a violation of the NAP. This is simply a justified response.
I don't ship Ciel with Sebastian or any character so it's not for fujo reasons that I don't want him to be a girl but because that shit is cliche as fuck and I'm really invested with the twin boys theory.
Also cute crossdressing boy >>>> tomboyish girl
Is that the real Ciel back from the dead?
I actually think that'd be interesting. But they should do it in the very end so they don't get bomb threats. It'll keep people talking for years
How is that cliche? I have never seen that happen save for Manga where you knew the person was of the opposite gender since the beginning
Oh boy. That's one hell of a teaser. But why would double Ciel come back right now ? What about Lizzie ? Why can't she come back ?
Maybe she realized Ciel wasn't actually Ciel
Or it might be Elizabeth or the Chinese guy.
Yeah but why would she stay with shady blood scientists instead of her own family ? Maybe she helped true Ciel coming back
Too short for Lau, and in Japanese the language is masculine
Because the scientists are obviously being helped by the rogue shinigami, the one who just so happens to be experimenting with bringing dead people back to life and who also just so happens to have an interest in Ciel.
HORRRRY SHIIIIIT IT ALL FALLS INTO PLACE
Kek I went to have a look over at black butler forum but why are the bitches over there still so fucking analpained over the 2Ciels theory. Like fucking hell it's been years and dozens and dozens of hints and they still whine about how it would be contrived and make no sense.
Seriously ? I mean I only stumbled on this theory last year and it does explain a lot of shit, are they just dumb or do they have something to argue about ?
Makes sense but would that kill the Lizzy/Ciel shippers or would they switch to shipping her with real Ciel?
Asking the important questions, I see
I don't know, I used to lurk the 2CT thread there at some point and the antis were really fucking retarded and I see that it hasn't changed.
Always here to serve.
Ok... Personally I was blown away when I read about this theory. I had seriously not suspected anything, except noted the weird memory about the dinner and the old fat guy. Holy shit I'm hype
I'd still ship her with current Ciel as he's the one she's had 90% of her screentime with.
Honestly most of the arguments still brought up in the current chapter thread can be fucking debunked by 'mistranslation'. Anyone who has the Nip volumes could see this coming from far away which is why it was well accepted in the Nip fandom. But in the Western tumblrland it's full of 'but he said 'one child' or similar shit. Like seriously, it's like they so fucking retarded they can't even understand the simple fact that you should never build an argument on a translation if there is some ambiguity.
There's a lot of compelling evidence for the twin theory but something that bothers me is nobody ever mentions a sibling when talking about the past. Could just be lost in translation though
Welp we´re possibly heading to endgame stuff
But he isn't the one she loves and current Ciel doesn't love her either.
I don't wanna get my hopes up, but I haven't been hyped about this manga is such a long time
Hey, she is pretty cute.
What anime is she from?
There is 3 years of timelapse from the time of the sacrifice to the beginning of Kuro, meaning any discussion about the twin could have happened at some point during that time and of course the family and people around the current Ciel wouldn't keep mentioning his dead twin he lost in horrific circumstances so as to not remind him. But it's clear that at the very least Lizzie suspected something was off since a long time ago. That whole Easter egg chapter.
>implying people will keep talking about someone's dead relative.
not really a topic you want to bring up often.
the author does not need to show them bring it up anyways.
I'm glad if it means Kuro is gearing for its end. Being extended that much has hurt the plot quite a bit. But who knows if the magazine and publisher will want to let go of their cashcow that easily.
"Hey Naruto was a pretty good manga, what is next?"
>"$ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $"
"BORUTO!"
Well the plot it not the only thing going for it. I enjoy the the supernatural investigations
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whatever helps you sleep at night fujoshit
Someone is mad.
yea, you.
>he isn't the one she loves
Why wouldn't he be ? He's the one who came back and stayed by her for all this time since then
No I'm not. The theory I've been believing in for years is about to be confirmed. I feel pretty good. I will be mad if Yana chickens out though.
Lizzie is an annoying Mary Sue, if current Ciel really needs a waifu then I vote for the cute witch.
Ciel x Sullivan is OTP
>thread starts about the plot and characters
>devolves into waifufaggotry and shipperfaggotry non sense
Well time to exit I guess
Spiderloli is the best character addition since Soma
Patrician taste.
After it being teased for so long I'm glad I don't find how it's being revealed underwhelming.
Supported by his " I'm not worth protecting. Not me... not just me... rather than me, it should be..." breakdown in 92. He has survivors guilt and so is living the life his brother should've lived
Agreed, and she came with an interesting butler just as Soma. What will Agni do now? I think he'll blame Ciel.
Holy shit, I'm excited about the next chapter.
Waiting for the DVDs to come out. Any day. Movie.
>There is a lot of evidence.
There was a lot of evidence in the manga but I think the anime has been tipped off as well. That scene where Vincent meets Baron Kelvin makes it seem like there are 2 Ciels. One greets him friendly one and the other is shy and hiding.
yeah, but when ciel has the manga flashback it pretty much gets confirmed. there are two distinct sets of wounds and shirt-conditions
So what is their explanation for Ciels flashbacks? What about Sebastian laughing and calling him a liar when he said his name was Ciel? I honestly thought 2 Ciel was confirmed by now.
The only way 2 Ciel theory would not be true if it's some sort of red herring and Yana is a huge troll, which is also totally possible.
Probably because Ciel is such an edgy little shit that would get triggered by any mention of dead relatives. He barely lets anyone talk about his parents. Tanaka probably knows more than he's letting on and Lizzy thinks it's her Ciel that survived.
>kid got kidnapped, tortured, raped and his parents were murdered
>can't handle talking about his parents as a result
>edgy
come on , user
ciel might be edgy, but for other reasons, not for this one
He's allowed to be edgy since he's gonna get eaten by a demon, but you have to admit he's still pretty shitty towards people who love him and consider him a friend.
Yes and that's edgy about it. As well as the fact that he's a murderous cruel little shit.
These are edgy facts about him.
Not that he can't talk about his parents.
In this day and age you can't finish a fujobait series without an idol arc.
Fruits Basket all over again, make all the fourteen year old weeab fujos rage for years.
>fucking 2 ciel's confirmed
>Real!Ciel is probably back from the dead via that super shinigami's fuckery, probably as a zombie kid or some equally edgy shit
>he will probably be the good one that doesn't feel like constantly being an asshole
fucking yes!
i hope to god Real!Ciel slaps our Ciel's shit for being an edgy little fuck.
Did anyone like Glass no Hitomi?
>but you have to admit he's still pretty shitty towards people who love him and consider him a friend.
He has to be really. This chapter tells us he's afraid of growing close to people, and it's pretty obvious why. The instant Ciel grows too happy and content with his life, then the bargain is over and Sebastion will consume his soul.
How can it be double Ciel, though? I think Agni looking at the photo is a red herring. The whole point is of this plot is that the real Ciel was literally sacrificed to summon Sebastion.
And from the way Soma was talking it really didn't seem like he was talking to Ciel, more like someone that he hadn't seen in a while.
>Being extended that much has hurt the plot quite a bit.
Not really, I think it's been moving along quite well. I enjoy the somewhat episodic nature of it.
What time period is BB set on? It's crazy when I realized the latest arc is about people finding out blood types for the first time. Makes me reread the whole thing again.
Late Victorian Era. Remember that Queen Victoria is an actual character in the series?
Eh it is a manga. I just assumed the autho wanted to name the queen Victoria since it's british enough name. Like Sebastian is a butler.
It was retcon'd halfway along the story. At the beginning there were scenes where Ciel receiving a video game as present and Italian mafia with cellphones.
I liked the live action movie though. Ciel should have been a girl.
No, it's still the Victorian Era, it just isn't true to the time and will do anything anachronistic for style.
And Victoria is still a reoccurring minor character considering she is culpit behind the Murder Mystery Arc, which was a big Time Out punishment against Ciel, the one who ordered Ciel to go to Hogwarts and the reason she sent out Ciel to get the Green Witch is to get the information for the mustard gass. It was pretty obvious from the jump that it isn't going to be a serious, well researched series when they have Ciel dressed in modern gothic clothing although they haven't done something outrageous as the video game, TV and the car phone since the first arc if you don't want to court the Idolshit Arc.
user, it's specifically set in the late 1880s. Queen Victoria looks like the actual Queen Victoria if you have seen the pictures of her in her later years.
The ruling class and underworld world always have better tech.
Chinese guy would never turn traitor
This manga is such a fucking blueball, nothing ever happens.
Oh did the plot finally fucking move?
Thanks for being one of the few non retarded people who understand why Ciel is behaving the way he does. He is definitely not a saint but it's not like he has any other choice.
Lau best boy and anyway the person in the panel looks too short to be him, can't be Lizzie because the speaking pattern in Nip is masculine. Could be Bravart or whatever this arc villain is called but then Soma's reaction to seeing him doesn't make sense. It's definitely someone he knows.