Socialism using capitalism to stay afloat?

Socialism using capitalism to stay afloat?

What do they mean by this, pol?

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_trafficking#Venezuela
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuelan_constitutional_referendum,_2007#CIA_allegations
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_High_Commissioner_for_Refugees
caritassalford.org.uk/service-view/are-you-a-refugee-or-asylum-seeker/
svenskakyrkan.se/migration
countylinechurch.org/new-ministry-to-refugees-in-paris/
three-worlds.com/
iom.int/countries/venezuela
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuela_and_the_International_Monetary_Fund
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Monetary_Fund
imf.org/external/np/fin/data/rms_sdrv.aspx
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Mnuchin
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bank_of_Commerce_(Tanzania)
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBZ_Holdings
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Monetary_Union
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>having a fundamental misunderstanding of what crypto currency is and why it can be useful in the future
Quintessentially Venezuelan

But they seized the means of production that always improves societies right?

Venezuela is doomed

Retard leader and retard people who cant figure out how to get rid of retard leaders

DOOMED

>dropping petrodollar
war in 3, 2...

>PEMEX

oops, I mean "liberation"

It's not a bad move, it makes as much sense as backing your national currency with gold or silver for example. It's still not going to solve anything since Venezuela needs to produce something else worth purchasing in Vene-cryptobucks so that cash can actually cycle between Venezuela and potential oil buyers.

It's still a step in the right direction though.

No, the only solution is a free market.

It’s like a whole nation of shoeshiners. BTC will be under $1000 by February.

While i agree with your statement, you can't have a free market without getting rid of your highly inflationary fiat currency. Hence why i said it's a step in the right direction.

This is loosely national socialism isn't it?

>Socialism using capitalism to stay afloat?
They're desperate and they can't openly cultivate drugs or America will bomb the shit out of them.
Usually they'd sell oil for money, but they somehow managed to fuck up that cash cow - don't ask me how. This is a special kind of commie retardedness.

Going to laugh my ass off when people buy into this, and Maduro makes an announcement that the imperiaist hacked them and all the petro is gone and no refunds.

Maduro is a cryptosionist sephardic jew.
Put in power by liberals after desestabilizing Venezuela through hunger, coercion, and external powers.

This is a fact.

Venezuela not even one day was Socialism you stupid retard. They have dollar monetary stock system since 1900 and supreme court lawmaker like only Americans on this planet have. They even have bitcoins you stupid Yankee retarded Republican Christian shit. Venezuela has zero collective ownership, only a dumb low IQ Jew Jesus worshiper of Republican Zion claims that Venezuela is Socialism.

people around the world invest in oil companies, govt seizes assets and oil prices rise to 100$/barrel.
now they offer to sell our assets back to us. lol am sure they wont rob us again. good idea.

The only people who buy it don't understand it, so it all works out

>1918
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Vicente_Gómez
>This, in turn, won him the support of the United States and Europe and economic stability.
>1952 - 1958
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Venezuela_(1948–58)
>the CIA sponsored a coup in which Arbenz was overthrown.
>1954
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_Guatemalan_coup_d'état
>CIA also contacted Marcos Pérez Jiménez of Venezuela and Rafael Trujillo
>1960 - 1970
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor
>based on formerly secret CIA documents from 1976, in the 1960s and early 1970s plans were developed among international security officials at the US Army School of the Americas
>Light green: sporadic members (Colombia, Peru, Venezuela).
>1993
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_trafficking#Venezuela
>A failed CIA anti-drug operation in Venezuela resulted in at least a ton of cocaine being smuggled into the United States and sold on the streets. The incident, which was first made public in 1993, was part of a plan to assist an undercover agent to gain the confidence of a Colombian drug cartel.
>2002
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States–Venezuela_relations
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Venezuelan_coup_d'état_attempt
>CIA documents indicate that the Bush administration knew about a plot weeks before the April 2002 military coup. They cite a document dated 6 April 2002, which says: "dissident military factions...are stepping up efforts to organize a coup against President Chavez, possibly as early as this month.
>2002 - 2003
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuelan_general_strike_of_2002–03
>Petróleos de Venezuela, was at this time 60 per cent owned by a United States company, Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC), which is "closely linked to the U.S. government", with "former chiefs of staff, ex-CIA agents
>2007
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuelan_constitutional_referendum,_2007#CIA_allegations

looks like some freedom is badly needed

america are you ready for war?

Venezuela has always had capitalism you moronic american

I wouldn't equal cryptocurrency with capitalism. In many central respects cryptocurrency is inherently anti-capitalist.

The state in venezeula doesn't control the means of production, they control only a few industries, like the oil industry.

Will I be able to short this currency?

>be me
>have a lot of oil in my Backpocket
>all rich Kids want to buy me nice stuff
>i am retarded
>muh socialism
>being rich, technically, but i have nothing to eat.

/gg venezuela, gg socialism, gg communism.

yea and its not like oil fuels the economy . oh wait.

Venezuela is socialism/populism for the 99% and oligarchy/nepotism for the 1%

I use to think Venezuela was socialism wrapped around communism but it isn't.

Expect the true commies to take over Venezuela in 2018

Quotes of American presidents:
John Adams (1797-1801)
>"I will insist that the Hebrews have done more to civilize man than any other nation." (Letter from John Adams to Thomas Jefferson)
John Quincy Adams (1825-1829)
>rebuilding of Judea as an independent nation. (Letter to Major Mordecai Manuel Noah)
Warren Harding (1921-1923)
>It is impossible for one who has studied at all the services of the Hebrew people to avoid the faith that they will one day be restored to their historic national home and there enter on a new and yet greater phase of their contribution to the advance of humanity.
Calvin Coolidge (1923-1928)
>Coolidge expressed his “sympathy with the deep and intense longing which finds such fine expression in the Jewish National Homeland in Palestine.”
Herbert Hoover (1928-1932)
>I know the whole world acknowledges the fine spirit shown by the British Government in accepting the mandate of the Palestine in order that there might under this protection be established a homeland so long desired by the Jews.
Franklin Roosevelt (1932-1944)
>The American people, ever zealous in the cause of human freedom, have watched with sympathetic interest the effort of the Jews to renew in Palestine the ties of their ancient homeland
Harry Truman (1944-1952)
>"I had faith in Israel before it was established, I have faith in it now."
>"Our Government was the first to recognize the State of Israel."
Dwight D. Eisenhower (1952-1960)
>"Our forces saved the remnant of the Jewish people of Europe for a new life and a new hope in the reborn land of Israel"
>Israel and her future are bound up with the United States.”
Lyndon Johnson (1963-1968)
>"Our society is illuminated by the spiritual insights of the Hebrew prophets.

>tfw can be personally responsible for starving venezuealans
>might even make some money off their suffering

the future aint all bad

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_High_Commissioner_for_Refugees
>UNHCR, the UN Refugee Agency, is a United Nations programme with the mandate to protect refugees, forcibly displaced communities and stateless people, and assist in their voluntary repatriation, local integration or resettlement to a third country.
>picture related capitalistic right-wing sponsors aka Donald Trump being the biggest

ENGLAND:
caritassalford.org.uk/service-view/are-you-a-refugee-or-asylum-seeker/
>Provider: Red Cross
>Location: Victoria Hall Mission

>Provider: Rainbow Haven
>Location: PJS Church Hall

>Provider: Revive
>Location: St Brigid’s Parish

SWEDEN:
svenskakyrkan.se/migration
>En del undrar varför Svenska kyrkan engagerar sig i flyktingfrågan. Som medmänniskor och kristna har vi ansvar för att värna varandras liv oavsett bakgrund, tradition eller religion. Gud kallar oss att se, inte att titta bort eller blunda. Därför är det självklart för oss att på olika sätt arbeta för att människor på flykt ska få det bättre.
Translation:
>Some wonder why the Swedish Church is committed to the refugee issue. As fellow human beings and Christians we have the responsibility to protect each other's lives, regardless of background, tradition or religion. God calls us to see, not to look away or close your eyes. Therefore, it is natural for us to work in various ways for people to flee'll be better.

FRANCE:
countylinechurch.org/new-ministry-to-refugees-in-paris/
>Three thousand refugees arrive in Paris daily. This has been overwhelming for the city and for the very few evangelical churches that exist in Paris. Less than a year ago, @home’s work was noticed by Christian groups and churches. Their holistic and organized approach to meeting the needs of the refugees was noted, and Samir quickly became the go-to person for the entire Christian community in Paris.
three-worlds.com/

This should help citizens buy all that cryptofood.

So basically similar to USDt cytocurrency - 1 USDt supposedly backed by 1 USD.

It most certainly is a great way to tap into the bitcoin hype and profit from it.

Spoken like a rue anglo

The irony of it all is that America has more government regulation than Venezeula. Americans need to be banned from political discussions, they're fucking brain dead.

iom.int/countries/venezuela
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuela_and_the_International_Monetary_Fund
>The Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela was a founding member of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) in 1946.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Monetary_Fund
>Headquarters Washington, D.C., United States

imf.org/external/np/fin/data/rms_sdrv.aspx
>The currency value of the SDR is determined by summing the values in U.S. dollars, based on market exchange rates, of a basket of major currencies (the U.S. dollar, Euro, Japanese yen, pound sterling and the Chinese renminbi).

Now you see who decides value of Venezuelan dollar.

Americans are ruining Venezuela because they are greedy retarded dumb Christian Republicans who want to steal oil in Venezuela.

>Dropping Petrodollar

Daily reminder that EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY that got rid of Petrodollar had freedom delivered by US

Oh wait, you're retarded and don't know anything.

Capitalism always has more regulations and more taxes, like your ISPs will get more regulations after FCC is gone, since that's what ISP lawyers are waiting for, to tell their Republican Christian retards to pass their laws, that's lobbying. Muh free market, more like Jew market for rich only.

I like how the scheme is its backed by a natural resource, which I think is neeto, but oil in the ground has no value til it's pumped,refined, and sold.

Now is Venezuela going to reinvest petro to get the oil? Or are they going to pay off debts and continue to subsidize the population?

I can't wait to see how this plays out

This shit is dead on arrival.

We barely have our infraestructure working and there's nobody qualified here to run that project.

It's like watching a NASA rocket about to take off, except the rocket is missing some parts, is placed horizontally and at the launch moment it explodes. Then they wonder "why it failed".

Anyways, im more concerned about how this would affect bitcoin. Probably wont do nothing but I want to be sure.

Back to the nearest dumpster to look for food.

Unless they name their Oil backed Crypto 'Petrodollar'

>Burgers has no value until they are warmed up.

That's ballsy.
Gaddafi went this path (although gold backed classic currency).
After that, you know the story.

Comparing meat to oil that is trapped thousands of feet underground, lol

Do you know how much investment it takes to get oil. A lot harder than taking meat out of the freezer and cooking it

I'll always remember him dearly for a way to train my regex skills.
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>thinks the meat comes from the freezer

>meat out of the freezer
Nice education

Haha good one bong. Cow,butcher,grocery,freezer,stove.

Anyhow go on buy some petro, sure Maduro will use some of it to get your oil.

>drue gommnusim has nedder been dried

Hold on.. This could actually work depending on how they export their oil.
Time to do research . . .
>Sunken oil prices are a main factor in Venezuela's economic collapse, and both events are as bad as any in recent history.
>Oil sales are 50% of Venezuela's GDP and 95% of its export revenue.
Coin value should fluctuate with oil price speculation.
This should only result in growth in two instances,
1st: Fluctuating bitcoin conversions
2nd: fluctuating value of oil speculation
The difference between traditionally publicly traded commodities and this coin is that bitcoin fluctuations is involved, but isn't supposed to effect the value of the coin.
The way I see it, there are probably project investors that are going to use this whole thing as an anonymous corruption scheme. (Buy in anonymously, have millions$$ more invested in the shitcoin, sell and cash out anonymously) I'd say to wait a couple months for the price to stabilize, afterwards, it's a safe bet.

Why do you think the Soviet Union invaded Eastern Europe, and China took over Korea and Vietnam?

Socialism always self-destructs on its own. The only way it can prolong its life is by taking over capitalist communities, installing socialist dictators, and pillaging them until they collapse too.

That's what happens to any country whose laws are based on feelings instead of facts.

>oil-backed cryptocurrency
As opposed to be an actual cryptocurrency I guess. What a joke, just a digital currency they will print out their asses. Bitcoin already exists, why does Venezuela want to create a shittier broken version?

It has been and it wasn't monetary system like Venezuela and whole Latin America and USA. Monetary system is all about selling bonds to private companies and that doesn't exists in Socialism. You can't sell people's money/ownership in Socialism, but Federal Reserve and other central banks do it every time they wish so. When they don't want to sell to their banks then Goldman Sachs and Citibank raise inflation for whole country. Americans want control over Venezuela, so they can own oil factories and more.

Outside gambling infusions vs. centralized control of the coin
If it's not used to line pockets of the corrupt, it'll be used to get naive outsider money.

Well capitalism uses socialism to stay affloat too,
-state monopolies or quasi monopolies, albeit variable depending on the county (justice, education, healthcare, defense, energy, water, transportation)
-wellfare
-subsidizing of businesses

It all depends on where you want to put the cursor between socialism and capitalism, and when to make proper adjustments, but since we humans do not like change and because of the costs and risks of reform, it is easier to be conservative, and more "dangerous" to be progressive because of the risk of destabilization that can lead to major fuck-ups.
Let's leave power to P2P governance and AI.
next logical step when you have cryptocurrencies up and running.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Mnuchin
>American banker who is the 77th United States Secretary of the Treasury as part of the Trump administration.
>Mnuchin worked for investment bank Goldman Sachs for 17 years
>Mnuchin's family is Jewish.

These Goldam Sachs people get send by Republican and Democratic bough Christian retarded Jewbutthole lickers to work in US Treasury, so that bank people and Treasury people are same people, which then means they sell American property to keep inflation down, which inflation was caused by bosses not working, they only print money by no work being done, they only invest and jerk around with stocks, which doesn't produces any goddamn shit in reality physical world. They increase their fortune(not based on work) and now they want Venezuela's central bank to sell bonds to American private companies and banks, like they done in USA already, which is why dollar will always grow weaker. This will supposedly lower inflation, since when Goldman Sachs owns Venezuelan companies they will lower the inflation, because they won't screw themselves, but eventually they won't lower it completely, since they have to keep prices for property high so nobody will ever be able to buy them from them. Btw they done this in EU, when we have financial crisis, forced us to sell our banks so they could be privatized(bought) by Citibank and Goldman Sachs inc. for their Rothschild lords. And when we sold they disabled the crisis and keep us in this permanent state of low salaries that can't buy property.

They also seized farm lands.

t. Ben Shapiro

State isn't the people in Venezuela. State should be the people, which means workers own land and companies, not 1 guy in government, since that's the same shit as if 1 capitalists owning it. Only capitalistic retarded Christians bullshiters claim such nonsense as Socialism being about government politicians owning property, since similary is what mayors do in USA, they decide fully what gets build and where, not the people. Socialism is when people decide what gets build and where, which automatically disables their Goldman Sachs banks, since they won't be allowed to be build on land.
All in all dumb Christians just want Jews to become the chosen ones, so they will pass on all the world's property to them. Also it's writen in their retarded holy books that armageddon must come, so they will create nuclear war, just to fulfil their dumbass prophecy so they can prove they are chosen and that armageddon happened. That's how stupid they are, if you think they any smarter you are already fooling yourself, that's literally how dumb they are, they set Arab world on fire to achieve just that, of course in the meanwhile they will steal and own their lands like chosen ones. That's the thinking process of 20 IQ Goldman Sachs, Citibank, American government and Christianity. They going to deus vult die for their prophecy of chosen people and armageddon to come true. They cut foreskin from babies, should be proof enough they are mentally insane and shouldn't be allowed near any government, not even governing of grass garden.

> buy Venezcoin
> Socialist scum nationalise / cancel it tomorrow
Yeah sure, great buy. I might as well send investment money to Zimbabwe.

You mean the Zimbabwe that never had Socialistic revolution your dumbass Christian retarded retard brains invented?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bank_of_Commerce_(Tanzania)
>Barclays Africa Group 55.0

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barclays
>Barclays PLC /ˈbɑːrkliz/ is a British multinational bank and financial services company headquartered in London.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBZ_Holdings
>Commercial Bank of Zimbabwe Holdings Limited is a large financial services provider in Zimbabwe, with an asset base in excess of US$595 million, and shareholders'

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Monetary_Union
>all countries of Africa

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Reserve_Bank
>Formulating and implementing monetary policy
>The Reserve Bank is privately owned, with 2 million issued shares.

Banks of Zimbabwe are owned by Anglo, like during their little Jewish circumcised dick into nigger pussy campaign. You think they were pure race? Nah, they were racemixers, like South Africa, they fucked black pussy and sucked black penis, like good Jewish Christian morons, in the meanwhile they stolen resources and because they got connections to Jews there was no inflation. Btw Zimbabwe has dollar, wake up retard. Maybe clean the sperm out of your ears from your pedo priests in Vatican.

ZANU-PF, which won the Rhodesian war and has been in power since, has an official socialist stance.

Dumb. Fuck.

VPN shill

Considering your country has the EXACT same problem I will respect your opinion here, beanboy

And? What does your imaginary bible stance mean? Jack shit. What matters are laws and ownership, they change nothing, so why do you care so much about your stances of your "Conservative" politicians who promote conservatism but never moved a finger in 60 years to do anything conservative. So if i just start to call myself god, would you believe me? Of course you would, that's how dumb you are and there are many prophets out there claiming shit, but do nothing for people. Where is the goddamn Mexican wall that is easily constructable from Mexican money? Where is it? Where are deported Mexicans? Not even illegals were deported. Now you telling me about some irrelevant bullshit political party from Zimbabwe you know shit about, neither you know what goes on today in Zimbabwe. Fuck off Christian boy.

>Considering your country has the EXACT same problem I will respect your opinion here, beanboy
Considering your country has the EXACT same problem I will respect your opinion here, yankee

>oil based
>cryptocurrency
So the chinks are just going to mine their oil away?

Nigger, what is that I don't even

Lol you are mad

...

Yes, i am mad that Americans are too stupid to understand after centuries that your elected political parties don't create laws, your courts do. Neither your elected political parties control money, they are only puppets for Zion. On other hand parliament in EU country could create some laws, just not everything, since we are in EU. Not knowing this it's hard for me to take you seriously when you talk bullshit what is Socialism or not.

Kek

Praise maduro, this based mother fucker is putting the final nail in the petro dollar.
The USA will invade so fucking quick. False flag, blame maduro, USA comes in to (((save the country)))

Trump's masters will push him to act

>still can't write a coherent paragraph
Get some help man.

>>Considering your country has the EXACT same problem I will respect your opinion here, beanboy
:>Considering your country has the EXACT same problem I will respect your opinion here, yankee
Considering your country has the EXACT same problem I will respect your opinion here, potatonigger

>man

>>>Considering your country has the EXACT same problem I will respect your opinion here, beanboy
>>Considering your country has the EXACT same problem I will respect your opinion here, yankee
>Considering your country has the EXACT same problem I will respect your opinion here, potatonigger
Considering your country has the EXACT same problem I will respect your opinion here, beanboy

>But they seized the means of production that always improves societies right?

Not when they load the company with political cronies to the point the oil can't be sold on the open market.

$100/bbl oil won't sell when $50/bbl oil is available.

Hey now, lets not get testy here.

what happened to the program about teaching people how to raise rabbits in order to eat them?

>0
absolutely jebaited

Why are the jews wrong?

>A ball held in the air has no energy until it falls.

USD is now the natural gas dollar famalam

>socialists don't know how economies work
>don't know how cryptocurrencies work either

I shouldn't be surprised, but I am

>highly inflationary fiat currency.
fuck off back to coinfag

Because nobody is right without proving being right, like nobody is wrong without proving being wrong. There's no automatic good or evil. Grow up.
Example of wrong 1: foreigner on my property that's my whole country
Note: Jew doesn't owns a single stone or grass.
Example of wrong 2: American speaking about democracy
Example of right 1: people i allow to speak to me and decide they are right
Note: American news aren't allowed to speak in my country no matter how much money they paid, since their money is worthless in my eyes and forced on my land.
Example of right 2: people i allow to store my money
Note: i never allowed Americans or Jews, neither i gave permission you can change the value of money. Next time ask and send me compensations in billions of dollar worth.

So you see that right and wrong is determined by asking people, nothing is automatically decided one-sided by some faggot sitting in another country like Israel or some faggot already being dead on cross from imaginary story.
But first we need to rollback history that is Jewish history since it destroyed our history to force itself on our land. No Jew is right, all Jews are wrong automatically, since they proven to be wrong by invading my land. No matter how many laws you write as invading foreigner, no nigger will ever be legal here, no Jew will ever be legal here, no American will ever be lawfully here, not even in thousands of years when 1% of our race remains, you will be repaid with death and if it takes whole universe destruction.

Crypto is not capitalism

>Considering your country has the EXACT same problem I will respect your opinion here, beanboy

Progressive Liberal Democrats LOVE socialistic redistribution of wealth too.

this.
The question is now when, not if, all that will fail (and fall)
This all situation is alike to the decadence of the late Roman empire.
Ruling class is willing to preserve itself but they got so dumb -besides economic schemes- that they are not seeing the whole big picture of the SHTF situation the whole world is heading to.

businessinsider.com/us-reached-last-stage-before-collapse-2017-12

It's directly tied to dollar, you can buy it for dollar, it's stock based. It's nothing more than just another banking tool to drain money.
Do you know what capitalism even means? What does capital and investment means? It means somebody tries to make more money than work was invested. Financial business isn't work, it's not needed. Bank should store money and my finger picking up my money i stored is hardly work. All this financial mumbo jumbo isn't work, it's stealing and getting your money stolen. Investing should be banned by law and punished by death, same goes for donations and aid. World doesn't needs money from other people with debt ties. There's no need to buy money with money.

Petrodollar but now Venezuela has his own.

PLACE YOUR BETS HERE PEOPLE!!
INVASION WITHIN: 1 MONTH: €100/€250.

3 MONTHS: €80/140

6 MONTHS: €40/56

12 MONTHS: €40/42

NO INVASION: €80/100

This is how Swedish corruption look like. Politicians buying nice jobs in UN for taxpayer money

ANCAP works everywhere, including in communism.

Ancap literally means Anarchy Capitalism, which means no rules for brainlets, but in reality only rich people don't follow rules. If everybody wouldn't follow rules we couldn't put 2 bricks together to build rich people houses. Workers abide by rules very strictly. The problem with this planet is that people give nothing back to the planet Earth. You get born on land and you immediately have to buy something from somebody, including the land under your feet, People should be born and land having some basic food and water available, so much people should have given back to earth. Ancap thinks they own what they don't even know, same phenomena with capitalists and royals. Who's money are we going to use in ancap society? From Joe1 or Joe2 or ... Joe10002? No centralization of money gives you that.

Nice, just bought 100,000,000,000k

There is no longer a guarantee of private property. Capitalism doesn't exist there that is the first piece of it.

State is made up of the people. But it doesnt matter. They no longer have freedom. The first piece of freedom is the right to own yourself and what you make.

Socialists fuck with private property right which is the end of freedom. This is what true socialism looks like that thing in your head is a fantasy.

>since similary is what mayors do in USA

Mayors get voted in and keeping socialism out is what keeps government small enough that it cant do the shit Venezuela is doing.

Social=big powerful government that fucks you.

Big government is nothing else than people owning their land where they live and companies where they are employed. Big government means big government, not 1 president and his advisors. If you are owner you decide, if you not, then you aren't part of government. Funfact: the public doesn't owns government buildings in USA. Also fact: the public doesn't owns public schools or public parks in USA, you just pay for it. Socialism pay for it and own it, capitalism doesn't. You don't decide, you don't get profit handed out in company if production is over the expected result, boss gets that profit and maybe he will trickle down some bit. Venezuela and Cuba have illegal cabbage sellers, they have illegal car sellers, they don't even know who's the owner, how can they then vote as part of big government if some do illegal things...that's not fair. If collective owners of street or company don't want Jamal, then Jamal will never be employed or live there. That's big government, not your bullshit American definition of big spending. Spending has nothing to do with government, that's just what it is, high or low spending. The height of spending doesn't changes the size of government. 1 capitalist can spend a lot of money, he's still just one small guy governing.