Sup Forumsacks who used to be liberal or leftist:

What was it that caused you to change your views?

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>What was it that caused you to change your views?
I have always been conservative. I was raised by people who work for a living. There are no free lunches for people with pride.

I don't know... me growing up probably. Radically changed my mind about a lot if things in the 5 months after I finished school when I was 18 2 years ago.

spending a year in the randstad

>before: more immigrants will cure bigotry!!!
>after: sand people want to kill us!!!

Hearing poor arguments for positions labelled as liberal that I no longer consider to be liberal but something else entirely. I can’t fathom their reasoning anymore and cannot possibly align myself with them either. Gone to the right I guess.

I would say mostly getting blackpilled during Obama's first term, gun control, and the Trayvon case.

gamergate and this place

If you're not a liberal, you don't know how to use your own brain.

Bans on fagbook because of the comments in The Guardian.

I was protesting against the gay normalisation in the western media and I said that all lives matter, blacks aren't special.

I turned 14 and my brain became developed enough for me to think for myself.

Having kids and having to support a family.
Then getting divorced and having to support the family I can't see.

When I got out of college, I lived with a couple of my bros in a cheaper neighborhood. Got my fair share of "cultural enrichment". Exposure is the best redpill.

Living next to niggers

Always been a libertarian of sorts, mainly a "people should respect the govt and each other, so long as the govt respects the people". During the election I found myself defending tougher immigration simply because a country should provide for its own before importing cheap labor.

Said immigrants (because I live in MinnieSomalia) couldn't fathom what I found to be a relatively simple concept. After all, all people are equal, all people want to be the best they can be, so they should buck up and take responsibility.

Post-election, after nearly being blackpilled by Hillary almost winning, and wondering a bit about why laws need to be in place to protect the (((Holocaust))), I lurked and made connections. Cue redpilling montage.

What shifted me, politically, was the realization that leftism operates solely based on how people think the world SHOULD work, whereas conservatism is about harnessing the good from human nature in practice. I listened to a lot of conservative figures speak, and read a lot of books on economics (Thomas Sowell being the biggest influence). Also, I was one of the few millenials who didn't find being a victim to be liberating, and was pissed off by people telling me I'm a bad person for being white from day 1.

honestly?

watching bush be such a stupid fucking moron and THEN watching obama do exactly the same stupid shit but even worse...

When I grew older and started working. Now I view all this shit about equality slightly different. Why should a engineer receive the same amount of money like some dipshit who never studied (something useful)? Why shouldn't people inherit wealth from their parents? Also a big slice is stolen by taxes. Back then I viewed the state as something like a caring person who'll always help you. Now I want to start a revolution every time I file a tax declaration or some stupid ass cop pulls me over for minor shit.

I'd say my conversion to Christianity and just maturing in general.

Traditional conservatism is now counter cultural.

Gen Z here. Probably the past few years of youtube. I watched cod vids back in the day and then youtube blew up. After Gamergate it spawned big figures like milo. Now even pewdiepie (biggest channel) is right wing.

I know people on here say Gen Z is a meme, but from my anecdotal evidence, a lot of the males my age and younger know and actively follow people like Milo. Some definitely are SJW's but I think the majority are waking up.

And I think we are just at the tipping point. One day I was talking to my 12 year old cousin and I showed him my MAGA hat as a joke. Kid started redpilling me on shit I didn't even know, he said him and his friends talk about this shit all the time. When I was 12 I didn't even know what Jews were.

I honestly believe that when these kids grow up, you are all going to see some shit. Maybe not in America because their are so many niggers to counterbalance the right, but in Europe and majority white countries, just get ready. It's going to get entertaining

A friend of mine at school planted some ideas that grew with additional care and reading. Weird guy, from an extremely wealthy family, extremely knowledgeable when it came to history and politics, but kept his cards really close to his chest. He was not one of those faggot nazis who tattoo themselves up and whatnot. He only once mentioned that his grandfather gave him mein kampf and other quite interesting books. Other than that - a good student, finished uni, now works as a government official, dresses in nice suits, and noone knows about his political views.

As for me, I just kept on reading and watching videos. What is worth mentioning though is that now I'm more of a centrist, I see many failings of right wingers and libertarians, especially the latter.

Exposure to data and facts, discrepancies in what I'd been conditioned to believe that made me confront my cognitive dissonance, as it was exacerbated and could not be ignored.

College

this x2

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I was pretty much always a nazi but I also participated/watched Occupy happen in my city. Came out the otherside an exterminationist.
Niggers
Kikes
Trannies
All have to go.

this
poltards btfo

I grew up.
What's the saying? liberal by 20 or you have no heart.
right wing by 40s or you have no brain
etc

I analysed all the data and made an objective decision. No online radicalisation for me no sir

Household always attacked politicians not on political ideals but on the way they looked. Though that was weird but went with it till i head to take some business classes

Political "heartbreak"

Was a teenager when 9/11 hit, didn't really get emotional over it like everyone else, felt like I was in a bubble.

>le black president runs.
>le vote for le black man
>realize he's just as bad as everybody else
>realize the democrats did not criticize him for doing the exact same things bush did more.
>realized it was more "anti-bush" than anti-war. Fuck.

I started to do my own research and found that the red/blue/racial/gender divide is basically used to keep us at each other's throats while the dudes on top run away with the big stacks of cash.

In this way, I'm pretty disappointed in Sup Forums for getting caught in the whole "X group is the reason for all our problems!" although at the same time, i'm all for exposing one faction of corruption and control (teh jews).

Jews.

Applying logic to the problems that the world faces and not simply listening to what politicians and media/celebrities say about what to think. Essentially thinking for myself. I don't identify as left or right, and I don't subscribe to any specific ideology. I have my own beliefs that I come to through logic, reasoning, and evidence.

When it comes to the validity of any political ideology, and ultimately the existence of the state, there is only one logical position to end up at...

I didn't change, the left did.
I respect a man who likes men as long as he respects the fact that I like women.
Trans people are mentally ill.
I would have been considered left leaning in 2012.

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I used to be a "semi-librul" because I fell for the educational Jew, always had my suspicions but never bothered to look shit up till my twenties.

After I actually bothered to educate myself, everything made sense and updating my views to reality was just common sense.

When I saw what the "people" I was defending thought of me

I think this is the problem a lot of leftists have, even if they live in multicultural cities and all that, they don't really interact with the pieces of shit they constantly defend, there is a reason why it is said they live in a bubble, some are beyond saving, but expose a bunch of these leftist faggots to what niggers, spics, muslims etc. really think of them and they'll stop being leftists

I think if what we call 'leftism' wasn't pro suicide for the west, I'd likely be indifferent to is as it exists economically, similar to the way i feel about libertarians. However, when i was young, once i felt i understood, generally speaking, what evolution was, it seem self-evident that humans beings must invariably be unequal in some way (fill in the blanks). And it is the genetic and cultural (arguably born from genetic) destruction Leftist policies have caused that has resulted in me settling here, the ''alt-right'', the only political home that can house my sentiments. For a while when i was in my late teens though, until about 20, in spite of what i found to be intuitively sound, i would, as a way of succumbing to the authority of the media, shill anthropologists, and socially progressive scientists, I would doubt my own judgments and be one with the herd. Even when i didn't understand why entirely, i just assumed their assertions ought to countermand my own, as i was not of their distinction. I sloughed this off pretty quick though once i discovered i wasn't alone and reverted back to my natural adjudications. About the time i discovered this website.

Excuse me English is not my first language.

I was raised by a lesbian single mother. She and her girlfriends abused me both physically and emotionally. To get them to stop hurting me I parroted their beliefs. I eventually grew into believing that that said political beliefs were true and only a racist, fascist, mysogynist thinks otherwise. I loved video games they were my only outlet. GG happened and for the first time in my life I saw the truth. It led to heated discussions with my mother and her friends. Then they used white guilt card to make me stop. I got even more mad and got into a fight with my moms bulldyke girlfriend. Somehow I won. I was always afraid of her but after that I wasn't anymore. Trump ran I supported him openly to cause chaos in my house. Got kicked out. Began to call myself a fascist just to spite my mom and her friends. That's a big no no in Berlin. Got attacked by antifa. Police did not care about me. Finished my degree and came to America. I miss Germany but at last I am free

Getting a J-O-B.

Was raised Christian Conservative. Realized all my beliefs because my parents had told me to believe them. Went pretty liberal for a few years, started using Sup Forums for Sup Forums and Sup Forums, eventually started lurking Sup Forums. Now my ideology is pic related

at 18, in the mid 2000's, I was a democratic socialist because I thought it was the only pathway to national socialism. I honestly believed the masses would only reach the proper ideology once the economy was tamed. I now see how backwards this belief was.

I was never a leftist, was openly racist and sexist when questioned by the other socialists. Their ideology was trash and I let them know it.

PC culture in college.
Came to the realization that it's actually a form of racism that they repress at their own expenses.
Humans are racist.
Thats why lefties tell you with a straight face that you're evil for not wanting sand niggers to come work here as taxi drivers. Expecting them to remain below in the social hierarchy despite all the positive talk.
Humans are hypocrites. It's one of the thing that caractarize them the most. But I am no fake ass bitches.

Real world experience among non-whites is where a tiny feeling started. I was still very much in denial about it despite seeing it with my own eyes day after day. I still kept listening to all my leftist approved podcasts and watching my Daily Show offshoots.

I fancied myself an intellectual and wanted to debate Nazis. I dint know why. Maybe it's because I couldn't shake the feeling that I was missing something. That even the dumbest bum I dealt with at the soup kitchen had a logic, even if flawed, to a lot of what they did or believed. But I never understood the logic of hating Jews or how someone could genuinely believe races were different. But then again, there are small bone structure differences and different skull shapes. Surely those are just superficial though, right? Oh, and there are different vulnerabilities to diseases and different hormone levels and rate of physical maturity and.... no! This is all crazy! If races were different they'd teach us in school, right?

I'm sure you know the rest. Seeing so many lies on network television and so many revised takes on history and reading Watson and others all lead to where I am now. I want to help build a white ethnostate.

Rotheram rapes and cover up.

Obama. Then liberals.

Raised a religious conservative, lost my belief, became a liberal in reaction, then became conservative again when I realized you can be conservative without being religious. Liberalism isn't compatible with being a straight white male with normal T levels.

I was never all that liberal, but all the tranny shit basically turned the left into a joke as far as I'm concerned.

Black people started going crazy and feminism 5 years ago. I used to really enjoy TYT too when I was in my first year of High School.

The Marxist and Jew run education and media nearly indoctrinated me into one of them.
Thankfully my family was secretly redpilled and slowly taught me against it.
Once I reached a certain point, I didn't need my family and I began doing my own reading and research, and that drove me to the point I am at now.
At one point being one of (((them))) really gives me light on how they think and how bad they truly are, how effective their indoctrination and propaganda tactics are, and makes me hate them even more
The moment I get any power I will do all that I can to eradicate these Marxist and Jewish scum

Trump was funny to watch during the debates so he grabbed my attention. In between the memes he was saying things that made sense and as I began to look at Liberals as a whole I realized my ideology didn't match with theirs,

Living with women.

Used to be moderate, center-left. Moving to a hyperliberal city pushed me further right. The ultralibs are blind to their own hypocrisy and genuinely believe conservatives are evil. Watching the left descend into madness over the last 18 months solidified my politics

Blaring faults in the logic of the left's arguments. Constant appeal to emotion over rationality. Constant strawmanning of the other side's argument.

The right is almost just as bad though.

>Implying I changed my views

Radical feminism brought me to the right. I came to the conclusion supporting ideologies that were agianst me made no sense. Now I have a sweet Christian trad GF but I still hate rad fems and Muslims.

Honestly, it was the migrant crisis. I was a "progressive" liberal teenager before it, living in one of the richest and most ethnically homogenous suburbs in Stockholm, and had little to no contact with the areas "enriched" by multiculturalism. Then the migrant crisis hit, and I was as enthusiastic as ever to show the refugees how welcoming and nice Sweden was. I remember on one occasion donating some old clothes to migrants to an ad hoc hotel-turned-asylum housing, and all I saw was grown men. My mother and I asked where the women were, and we were told that their men had prohibited them from even going outside. It gave me an eerie feeling then already. But the thing that really redpilled me was my uncle, who was constantly spamming articles on Facebook about crimes that the migrants/refugees were commiting and how much taking care of them cost us. I had several aggressive internet arguments with him over it, but despite my mental barriers for such "racist wrongthink", it triggered my cognitive dissonance real hard. And I actually know firsthand about what that really feels like. It makes you feel nauseous, gives you a headache and makes you feel nearly ill, it's that bad, like a real mental meltdown. As I was overwhelmed by the onslaught of stories about a different reality than the one described in MSM and state news, I eventually started to realize about the negative things about immigration, multiculturalism, globalism, islam etc. And it just went on from there. Funny sidenote, it was actually my then autistic edgy atheism that finally redpilled me on islam, which in turn made me realize that the only true bulwark against it was Christianity.

The constant negative press about white people,radical feminism and the pushing of transgender people who clearly have a mental illness by the media.

>implying I'm still not a liberal
I easily change my views when discussing things with smart people, and Sup Forums is not the place to do so.

the 2016 election

Islam is the most painful pill to swallow. The annoying part about it is you know they're not just incompatible but invaders, yet the general public still thinks they're a normal religion like Hindus.

REPEAT SLIDE THREAD

used to love watching nigger ball games with my dad and then one day I literally "woke up" and was like fuck this shit, watching nigger grown men as a grown man and buying clothes with another mans name on them are cucked as fuck

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Honestly it was all the anti white-rhetoric you see on the left, I used to be subscribed to it for awhile like "Wow us whites sure have a lot to answer for", and one redpill after another I just kinda woke up

I grew up

When I stopped watching television and comedians.
This was about 2010
About a year after that I started to get pretty black pilled. Thought everyone and everything about government was evil and that politicians were evil no matter what their party alignment and that there was nothing that could be done to stop it. Thought that no matter how many people went out to vote, that government officials were "appointed" anyways.
While these things still may be true, the 2016 election race forced me into a choice: stay stagnant in my inevitable demise, or look for hope in a side that seemed to want the best for the world.
MAGA

Being a white male in college.

The sudden political shift in 2015 surrounding Hillary's campaign.

College was the biggest influence. Went to learn about chemistry, learned chemistry but also saw that school was not about intelligence or hard work. It was about following orders.

I was a good goy open-border libertarian until Trump came around. I even voted for Gary Johnson in 2012 (not that Romney was any better). Reading studies and statistics on immigration and economic nationalism changed me pretty quickly. Also learning the overwhelming power Jews have in the US pushed me even further right.

I kept reading

Growing up

unironically ben shapiros podcast

>What was it that caused you to change your views?

Experience. (And the fact that I got rich)

>gamergate
>manosphere
>Trump Election
>4/pol
>8/pol
>TRS
>The Daily Stormer
>Mein Kamph
>Siege

I was a liberal for about 3 months in high school, because I wanted to fuck this liberal girl. Dodged that bullet, and been going rightward ever since.

Muslim invasion of Germany. I was there in 2015, when it happened. It was like seeing Rome getting invaded by the barbarians and the romans saying they deserved becaused they were mean two generations earlier.

It was a very sad view, the downfall of a great civilization by the hands of the grandchildren of great man who built it.

Same. Get out of my head.

I am still more socialist leaning than most of my fellow natsoc, but i have definitely learn to value private property and private ownership a lot more. Idk why. Just reading a lot.

I used to be a soy drinking femboy who was cuckolded by a 200 blue haired landwhale, then I ate onions for every meal for two months and now I'm an Alpha white nationalist chad fucking 10 blonde haired girls a day.

From Berlin, fucking hell, this guy walked out of the beasts lair.

Antifa using violence to silence the free speech of their opponents.

Sorry, Antifags, you lose.

>Brainwashed by public schools to believe everyone is equal.
>Parents never brought up politics ever.
>Start noticing that things my teachers at school are outright lies.
>Keep telling student illegal aliens aren't on foodstamps.
>Was 16 working as cashier
>Every single person on foodstamps was an illegal alien that spoke no English.
>Would use their anchor babies to translate and communicate for them. Had zero intention of learning English themselves.
>Still thought blacks were like everyone else though.
>In 2008 watching CNN. Wolf Blitzer brings up 97% of blacks voted for Obama.
>Start thinking blacks only see skin color.
>Go to college and meet blacks.
>Suddenly realize they are as violent and stupid as racists said they were.
>Don't hate gays until I started realizing they were forcing everyone to do shit like bake cakes for them.
>Pass by a gay parade in my state capital one day.
>Watching men in thongs shaking their hairy asses directly in front of young kids who are clearly under the age of 10. We are talking just a few inches from the kid's face.
>Thought Hitler was a madman until I read Mein Kampf
>Notice every single thing he said about Jews was going on right now here in the US.

It didn't happen over night. There were little things that pushed it over time. I would say it started really happening in my job as a cashier when I started noticing everyone on food stamps was an illegal immigrant despite my high school teachers claiming they weren't on welfare.

This video is what set me off against liberalism.
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I then got familiar with gubergate and I've never recovered. Fuck the social justice left.

SIEGEPILLED

I've always been conservative. In my experience, it's not a case of ideological change that converts lefties to right, but they get thrown out of the kingdom and come butthurt to the conservatives. Waaah, the lefties were mean to me! The righties either welcome them or perspicaciously tell them they are only coming around for validation and have not changed any of their positions except maybe to finally admit they like guns out loud.
Most of the time they will admit this is true and appreciate the righties for not being as juvenile and tribalist as their lefty friends. Eventually they come to actually change their views. IOW they come hoping to gang up on their former friends but stay for the correct thinking.

Kys shareblue shill. Don't forget Hillary called you a basement virgin even though you worked for her.

Talking to liberals and realizing that marxism can't work with these cunts so i pictured it in a distant future where ancap is not a viable solution and the kikes are gassed.

Honestly this is probably b8, but this is basically why I stopped being liberal. It seems that the vast majority of leftist individuals devolve to ad hominem attacks and slander whenever they are confronted with differing opinions
>y-you're j-j-just racist...
Why though?
>b-b-because you're a racist, s-sexist, homophobic, islamophobic, t-t-transphobic, ableist, fatphobic, bigoted, mysoginistic, capitalist, n-n-n-nazi....
But why?

I am still left of center economically, but I think modern culture is degenerate and there's only one race that gets called out publicly

I grew up, though I occasionally romanticize my way of thinking back then. I can never go back to it.

Never been a leftist or a cuck liberal.
Always hated the mainstream and the establishment but never the values that are vital for our society to work properly.
I was lucky enough to grow up in a society that had just broken free from the commie hellhole so I've always loved my country and never questioned my heritage nor nationalism.
We were taught in school that without the Estonian nationalism we wouldn't exist

Hitler specially said not to engage in politics apart from a small group before tge age or 30, the small group is required to solodify your political inclination, he said that its better to not bear the shame of changing your Ill formed notions as a kid almost all of us were bleeding heart liberals at one point

You sound insufferable

became an adult, started working and paying taxes and there I started to wonder if all those taxes paid were really worth it, started dealing with the government and realized that the portion of my income that they take from me is used inefficiently (I even use private clinics when I can despise having access to universal healthcare no joke), but more importantly I realized through years of watching multiple friends and acquaintances make bad decisions over and over again and digging their own graves that not everything is "the system"s fault and that telling people that they are not responsible for their failures only makes it worst for these people because they won't try to help themselves, they just vote for whoever tells them "I'll make it better" but no one ever does

Welcome to America. Your English is pretty much perfect. We embrace you.

I got a job and got robbed twice by niggers from the northern parts of the country within a month.
That was enough to make me question my views.

How do you get along with your uncle now? Just wondering

The short answer:

Women.

Gamergate planted the antiestablishment seeds but it was the election that won me over. Forget picking a side, Trump's mere presence in it was the greatest thing in recent memory and as time went on I found myself less watching a dumpster fire, more cheering for the savior of this country. Gun owners are not insane, I was insane for thinking they're a threat when it's niggers that are the problem. The media is a slimy entity out to divide and destroy us. Immigration is not good, for fucks sakes I'm not gonna learn spanish to accomodate fucking invaders. God bless that night in november, I slept like a fucking baby with those headlines etched into my memory.

The equal rights was not an egalitarian movement at all but merely a front to give jews more power by using women/shit skins as useful idiots.

Plus there was really no right wing counter points for the longest time. Cuckservatism always danced around the issues and because of this they could never win an argument about anything.

My how times have changed. Now I unironically think Hitler did nothing wrong...... except maybe actually not gassing the jews he fucked up on that part but the man is not some monster unlike kikes.