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Let's talk about the opiod epidemic haunting this country. Why do so many young people, even rich kids, do heroin nowadays? What's the main cause of this surge in usage?
>bad family
>no prospects
>Disenfranchisement
>Breakdown of community
I've never done hard drugs, so I'd love to hear your stories, if you are or were a junkie.
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nobody does it here anymore, only really old junkies that have somehow managed to survive. It was a huge problem in the 80's and 90's though
Because America is literally becoming le 56% and the people can feel it. No hope so they turn to opioids. White people are very sensitive creatures.
it's a suburban kid drug
I've only met white and jewish heroin addicts
Afghanistan
It feels really good.
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bad family has nothing to do with it. it's a self absorbed person drug of choice.
coke is for people who want to appear strong and be social, heroin is for people who want a problem, MDMA is for people who wanna feel love, lsd/dmt attracts secretly spiritual people, amphetamine is a replacement for adrenaline, and weed attracts people who just want to chill.
granted everything has a therapeutic use but as far as
i've learned this stuff is just bad news
darwinism
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In Ohio here I think it was after the pill mill went down which was huge. People sought an alternative. And from that the gap was filled with heroin mostly likely obtained and sourced from the very pharm. Companies whom were not able to mass pump out pills anymore. Then fro there the cartels sold it to the blacks and I graduated in 2006 I was kinda the first wave. And myself included it became a social norm. Like it was as taboo to do if you were like one of those indie kids listen to Elliot Smith or w.e. And though that normalization more kids outside the indie group did it...my community I grew up in was a well to do community so eventually once it made its way from Indie emo kids it went on to the rich kids and from there they had mom and dad's money to make the I dusty boom....the rest is history....now there cutting it with fent. And people are dropping like flies....sad really. Clean 5 years here. Married 2 kids great job....what a horrible drug
It wasn't a taboo* sorry on my phone
jews
>In case you didn't know 9/11 was a jewish plot to start war with afghanistan and overthrow the taliban, because they banned the poppy production.
>MAY 20, 2001 : nytimes.com
Tried everything you except dmt and heroin so your description is 10/10. Ive been clean for 1 month now and drugs are just not worth it
>What's the main cause of this surge in usage?
>cartel's main source of income (cannabis) is legalized in several states
>loss of profits drive them to new markets
>meanwhile millions of potential mules and sellers invade the US
>the DEA puts super strict controls on prescriptions and docs that prescribe them
>too much hassle, paperwork and too expensive to get pain meds through legit channels
>US military guarding poppy fields
Hey doc, one of these days its gonna be cheaper to buy heroine.
i called this ten years ago.
i started doing heroin when my dad was in a coma and I had just dropped out of college.... so yea, general hoplessness leads many into it.
heroin is a simple life, wake up, cake up, pick up. and repeat. I almost miss it.
How horrifying. To me, it sounds like how weed makes me feel (except Heroin is 100x more addictive). This pretty much ensures that I will never, ever touch Heroin. I'll stick to weed and booze in moderation thank you very much.
Becouse your goverment is huge drug dealer and criminal organisation, pal.
That is it.
Touch heroin and your every day goal will be to get high
shit at least ill have goals then...
my life cant really get much worse
Damn, good redpill. There's no way our government doesn't do this to make extra money.
weed is shit for me. I only feel like shit on it. I drink about 4 or 5 times a year with my friends, but that's it. I'm addicted to coffee and internet, which works pretty well for my life. I just buy a can of coffeine pills during finals and use the free time to deprogram my mind over a mind.
Feels shit to not have my mind under my own control tho.
You're forgetting the biggest reason
>Nothing fucking matters
Heroin is a literal black pill. You're going to die and disintigrate into dust anyway, might as well get fucked out of your mind and OD before then.
I've ODed several times. Got revived by narcan in an ambulance. Wish it would have killed me desu
>cake up
Do you mean this as in makeup? How many dicks have you sucked for some heroin?
Very stupid reason to do Heroin user. Goals are created by you, the individual. There's honestly nothing you can't do in this country if you work hard enough. Of course it involves luck but at least you're doing something to better yourself. Don't be dumb.
I wish it would have too.
My friend is a paramedic and he says when he has done that to people OD'd on Heroin they get fucking pissed when they wake up.
Knew some faggot like you would post some smarmy self-aggrandizing shit. You and I are the same, fucking worthless in the grand scheme of things.
Vanity of vanities, all is vanity.
former heroin and crack addict here. People do it to cope with stress, boredom, and to numb the feelings of being a 'loser''
another reason is that people have no money to see mental health specialists, budget cuts on mental hospitals, less or none forced lock ups in asylums..
Start working out or try finding something that you think is fun, when you smoke weed for a long time you will lose interest in many things. Weed can be really fun and relaxing but it fuck changes the way you think. Hope everything will get better m8
Because they think it’s cool and pleasure combined with a placebo effect. Honestly take a warm bath on cough syrup.
Weed fucking sucks
Agitated state when your not high everything feels dull need it to feel normal but normal is sitting on a couch watching hours of tv shows binge eating
Its a dumb drug
Most young people are lazy fucks nowadays that dont want to work. Once they get in drugs its hard to get out because its a change to their borring unemployed life. The thing with heroin is, my friend once told me is, the first time the high is so fucking amazing that if you do it again your body gets hooked on it.
Remember the crack epidemic? What was that about, a fried chicken shortage?
Mostly because you have no fucking clue what's going on. I couldn't even tell them my name. I knew what they were asking but my brain was so fucked up from the dose I couldn't properly make decisions. It's very frustrating. Not to mention you realized you almost died. Thats not a very pleasant realization
Heroin's honestly not as bad as people make it out to be. Just don't fall into a routine. The second that happens is when you're fucked. The only reason why I stopped doing it is because my best friend died when some nigger sold him some that was laced with fentanyl (an opiate that's 50 times stronger than heroin, it's used in hospitals to treat terminally ill people who have a strong tolerance to all the pain meds they've been taking. Didn't want to take any chances.
>manual labor jobs such as mining causes a lot of injuries
>doctor prescribes opioids to treat chronic pain
>workers gets addicted
>can't find work because disabled
>can't afford pills
>find cheaper alternatives such as heroin
>high tolerance to heroin, level up to fentanyl
>fentanyl is highly lethal because just a small amount can cause overdose, taking it is like playing russian roulette
>high number of overdoses
Teenagers get hooked on it because they are curious, and when you can access a pill that makes you feel like everything's fine...and you have daddy's trust funds...it becomes a problem.
Then you have that shit that's supposed to resurrect you when you overdose, and it actually makes shit worse because addicts then feel like they have a safety net when they should overdose like the degenerates they are.
Heroin is every bit as bad as people say it is.
>T. Addict for 4 years
Drugs are bad kids.
Had my best friend at the time overdose on heroine two years ago. He was a junkie for ten to twelve years. He gave me my first drugs (opioids, lsd, shrooms, and some other more obscure plants) when we met in college. He was the coolest nicest most down to earth chill guy. Great friend when you are college age. He was a full time tripper with a long time reputation in the Shroomery.
But I have known awful druggies who are still around. Stealing, lying, awful people to their friends and family. Burden on the tax payers. We also have a large homeless population.
The primary source of their opioids (OxyContin primarily, some morphine), is people with crooked doctors who give them wayyyy too much prescription drug per month. Like, an older junkie lady living in section 8 housing her whole life; she has 'pain' and doctor gives her 150 oxys and 60 morphine. She doesn't need it but knows it's money because she was a heroine user. So she sells it for ten (morphine) and fifteen-twenty (oxy) and now she can buy movies and presents for her grand kids. It's her only source of income that isn't ebt and social security so it adds a lot.
This leads to younger people getting into trouble with addiction, crime, overdosing, etc. because grandma hurts-alot wants Christmas gifts and shitty Walmart bin movies to nod off to, dozens of young people in the community end up derailing because of high availability. And dr dealer can only be taken down by Sessions if these people are not supposed to receive meds. Literally- if the patient says 'it hurts too much' the doctor can give more.
This is the basic way not following the whole OxyContin Express involving Debbie wasserman shultz and her district being the main source of crooked doctors feeding the country opioids.
The Jewish sackler family caused this by lobbying Congress to change rules so they could set up pain management clinics. These Jews then goes Forign doctors who don't give a shit about whites to run these clinics and write prescriptions like they were candy.
Once everyone was hooked zog cracked down on legal opiates and then the alphabet Jews ramped up heroin trafficking.
So if you your family or people's lives have been ruined by opiates and you can't go on. Go make the world a better place on your way out.
Rich kids who are bored and on trust funds do it
...
Being a drunk is bad enough. I'm going to try and kick it after new years. Cut way back from where I was before but just can't seem to get over the last hurdle. With fent in the mix now killing so many people hopefully opiate abuse falls out of fashion.
Chink, Pajeet and Jew doctors who hate white people over prescribing opioids.
cake = money
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My best friend growing up died this morning. He relapsed, was kicked out of his home, and passed out in the cold on the way to sleep on my couch.
He was from a good family, had a trust fund with $3m waiting for him when he turned 30.
No one else in his family had any issue with drugs.
No one else in his family was raped when they were 7 years old.
Heroin users are the scum of the earth. Pure fucking filth.
We did not choose to be born. We were chosen to be born. We do not choose to life, and we do not choose to die
But die we will
I never injected, tinfoil only. So I never got addicted to it. I'd only get a gram and that would last 4-8 days depending on the purity. Ironically enough, I'd actually be kind of happy when I was almost out, because I'd kind of get sick of the side effects. Mainly constipation, nausea and sometimes vomiting.. Especially if I smoked a cigarette.
It's a pretty nasty drug, but I'd take it over alcohol for sure, just because it hits me much quicker and is more sedating. I didn't get any "rush" like IV users supposedly get, but nonetheless the sedating/cocoon like feeling, as if nothing can hurt you is pretty nice.
I find myself just in kind of a dream like state, I tend to just daydream while lying down. Getting back up to take a few more hits to maintain the high.
$100 a pop is too much for me, so meh
Darwinism at work. Don't do drugs kids, even if you had bad shit happen to you as a child. It's worth it to see the sun rise in the morning, breathe the crisp air, etc etc
Good luck bro. I am going to give that a shot too. Going cold tomorrow onward.
Wow fuck off with your novel..
New Zealand has a meth epidemics going on.
Lots of people hooked on prescription drugs too.
Just lost another mate to meth in last few days, found out he had been going downhill and smoking it for a few weeks.
>try oxy in highscool
>raging rockhard erection
>makes it impossible to cum therefore making me a sex machine
>kills anxiety and boosts confidence and linguistic abilities
>eventual addiction manifests, pill mills get shut down and find out that heroin is similar and dirt cheap
The appeal for me was instantaneous. I slayed so much pussy as a junky.
Now im relatively clean(methadone) and back to my lonely loser self.
I know methadone doesnt count as clean but i dont take a ridiculous amount and i function and work and contribute to society so i am ok with it. Also i have legit injuries and would rather go to a clinic than have control of mt own pain meds because id run out before the next refill and be back on smack.
Why not quit entirely?
I did and was clean for a bit but most addicts slip up and the last two times i slipped up i almost died because it was fentanyl.
I weighed my options and id rather be physically hooked on methadone and alive and working than being sober and if i make one relapse be 6 feet under.
Im an adult, i dont drink or smoke weed and i dont take antipsychotics.
Most americans are on at least one pill they will take for the rest of their lives.
Methadone not only controls my cravings and kills my pain it is also good for anxiety and depression so i dont care if you want to judge me.
I am a grown man and this is my poison. Half you fine gentlemen drink or smoke cigarettes, both provwn more harmful than what i do..
I am a good christian and a hard worker and am doing what i can to survive my addiction in the current fentanyl crisis in america. I also dont even want to use heroin ever again even if it is real. Im tired of dealing with niggers or having to go to the ghetto. I live in a nice white area and my clinic is in a nice area as well where the clients are mostly white and hispanic. The only blacks i see are the nurses who work there.
Pleb phone user, get a monitor.
Introduced by the CIA
>Hedonism
>Decline of social and cultural norms meaning a lot of young people feel hopeless and nihilistic
>An over prescription of opiods by doctors for pain
>easy access
a lot of things really. China suffered during the 19th century.
I was an opiate addict, not heroin though. It started out as curiosity, continued out of pure enjoyment and became a problem. But I quit pretty easily.
I think heroin starts off like that but with a darker/more depressed outlook. It's anecdotal, but I never met happy heroin addicts/happy people that tried heroin. I met a lot of people leading normal lives that ate painkillers like skittles.
Also my dad is an alcoholic and i have seen doctors and lawyers and even judges at the Aa meetings i go to.
I prefer Aa over NA because crackheads and methheads unfortunately succumb to serious brain damage. It can happen to alcoholics as well but not as fast. With aphetamines its pretty much guranteed. Also causes neurological disorders.
Opiates actually dont cause brain damage and are one of the safer drugs out there aside from overdose potential.
The addiction is hell though and that doesnt make them any better than other drugs but scientifically speaking they dont harm your body much at all.
It can always get worse.
i've had oxycodone, hydrocodone, and morphine.
none of it felt euphoric to me. they're just potent painkillers.
maybe i don't have the brain chemistry for opiate addiction.
but adderall? fuck. makes me wanna PARTY. i'd totally abuse an ADHD prescription.
Ohio here, too. Appalachian. I tried it a couple times around 2008/2009 when the recession hit and job markets. The little town I was from had it readily available. Always snorted the pills. Started with Vicodin, moved to stronger Vicodin, then varying degrees of Percocet and Oxys. I didn't do it frequently enough to get hooked. Always mixed with alcohol. Then I got a job that would become my career and lead me to meet my wife, purchase our first home, etc.
After a while, I noticed those same friends weren't snorting pills anymore, but cooking them like heroin and shooting up...then they went to heroin. 5 of them died in the last few years. Overdoses ranging from needles to putting those fetanal (sp?) patches in their mouth. It isn't getting any better.
If that's true they won't be alive for long. Dealers catch on.
nihilism is a curse.
Watch Requiem of a dream.
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Course, it's like when Gary Webb noticed coincidences he definitely shouldn't have been noticing so he suicided.
ahh the classical Clinton suicide. Two gun shots to the head
There's another guy too, but I can't for the life of me remember his name.
>Finds out things he shouldn't
>Ready to drop truthbombs like a madman
>Decides instead to slash his wrists
>Apparently forgets that he had a deep fear of blood
>Also somehow forgets he was left handed and used his right hand to slash his left wrist
>Pure coincidence
Nothing ever gets me like the ol' two shots to the back of the head suicide though.
David Kelly? He was British and he questioned the official motives for invading Iraq in 2003 I think
fucking kek
>decriminalize simply possession
>state pays for you to go to rehab
>billions of dollars are saved.
Because millions of Spics in the Southwest, Millions of White niggers in Appalachia, and thousands Negroes in Philly and NYC who are mostly between 35 - 64 are hardcore addicts
agree with all except the (((army guarding poppies))) thats a fucking meme conspiracy theory and is 100% false.
t.spent most of my adult life in Afghanistan and never guarded a poppy field. I burned plenty to ashes tho.
Feels good man
Nah it wasn't David Kelly, though admittedly both are similar, this was an American guy with blonde hair. His surname began with a C. Normally there's links to similar things on (((wikipedia))) so it should be on Gary Webb's page. Though I can understand why they wouldn't want to link to a serious of suspicious suicides full of coincidences.
Not drug related, but the Marc Dutroux witnesses suicides, accidents, and straight up murders, is a decent watch. If you like anything like that.
t. early 20s jr junkie
Wife is an RN, works ICU. She sees many patients that are wrecked from opiate abuse. Some really are dumb enough to not understand the danger, however many just cannot deal with this world. It is an escape, both temporarily and soon permanent if they cannot stop the abuse.
Thanks man, I'll give it a look.
This was the other guy I was trying to think of too. en.wikipedia.org
> opioid topic
> picture of fucking baking soda
FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG. There's nothing to talk about. The opioid epidemic isn't going to end until prohibition ends and regulation begins.
Big Pharma and the drug pusher doctor's that work for those scumbags.
i jusy did 6 months in fulton county jail because of heroin i got caught when i OD i wish i would have died too but hey im 7 months clean
A place near me is trialing something new. If heroin dealers are blatantly addicts who are only dealing in order to pay for their habit they won't be arrested. I'm not entirely sure how it works, but there was complete outrage about it. Then again, the method we've been using for decades hasn't worked so why not try something different. I'm glad to hear you're clean though.
It is the purge of the weak.
Those who lack the willpower to avoid the opiates will not survive to produce healthy offspring.
Natural selection has no mercy.
>be me at 14
>no friends, always bored, addicted to wow
>no self esteem, depressed, think I'm gay
>Go to house sit for my elderly neighbor
>Heard from DARE that kids were getting high by going through medicine cabinets
>always wanted to try weed or any drug, so I snooped around my neighbors medicine cabinet
>Wrote down all the names of all the pill bottles, then googled each one
>found out hydrocodone is an opiate and people enjoy it
>I steal 5 and head back to my house
.....
>few days later I take 2 after school
>nothing happens, am dissapointed
>hide the other 3 pills and forget
.....
>one night my mom isnt home and I'm talking with a friend on skype
>sad because I was gay and didn't want to be
>friend is trying to cheer me up
>I remember I had those extra pills
>Decided to take them because I wanted to hurt myself
>literally didn't expect them to do anything, I just took them for attention/self harm
>That night me and my friend talked for hours. My mood changed and she even noticed it. I felt naturally good.
>Night ends, didn't think anything of it
>Few days pass, then I realized those pills were what made me feel so good that night
>I quickly steal more, and take 4 pills this time
>I really enjoyed that feeling, thought I found the perfect drug
>Didn't my neighbor to notice, so I only took them every few weeks when she went away
.....
>Then one day I decided I wanted that buzz again. So I entered her house and went for the medicine cabinet.
>Instead of hydrocodone (vikodin) I only found oxycodone (percocet). I thought it was the same thing.
>So I popped 5x 5mg tabs expecting a nice buzz
>What I didn't realize is oxycodone is alot more powerful than hydrocodone
>The buzz came on so strong that I broke down in tears and felt indescribable
>And that was the day I became infatuated with opiates, at age 15
.......
>Fast forward 8 years later
>I'm a raging heroin addict who has a handful of overdoses
>Shared needles, robbed people, did anything for heroin
>Mfw I'm a statistic
This shit is awful. When you see an addict please realize something: He is not getting high all the time. Life is not a party for an addict. You feel like shit 100% of the time, and getting high only makes you feel normal and not deathly ill. Life as an addict is awful and we all want to die.
There are too many social norms if anything. Any little wrong move that deviates from someone's arbitrary feelings gets you outcasted.
I'm addicted to kratom. It's a plant that acts like an opiate via the alkalines in the plant, however it's not. The withdrawals are similar a weak opiate withdrawal. It's still the worst feeling I've ever experienced.
Ask me any questions that you have