Questions about the history of Jesus and Christianity and the Jewish Religion

The last thread about this Topic got shut down. For no apparent reason, lots of people were in the discussion and was very active.

The thread got killed after i corrected the record on the true nature of the Talmud. Allot was said about Jesus, teachings of christianity and its origons being of a Jewish nature.

Allot is said to confuse people about Jesus and how his teachings are based in Jewish beliefs.

That can be debated and discussed. But the false lies being spread that the Talmud is a precurser to christianity could be no more then a lie.

For starters, the Talmud say that Jesus was a iligitmate child born to a whore.
The Talmud says that for someone who is not Jewish to spread the truth about the Talmud to non Jews shall be put to death.

Anyone who says the jewish religion, as practiced today by the Jews, was the foundation of christianity and the teachings of christ, are telling you lies or dont know what they are talking about.

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>Anyone who says the jewish religion, as practiced today by the Jews, was the foundation of christianity and the teachings of christ,

No. They say that the Judaic religion of 0 ad and found in the 39 books of the Old Testament (pentateuch, wisdom, historical, prophecy) was the foundation of Chridtianity.
Any honest and historically literate Jew would agree that contemporary Judaism is very different from AD 0 Judaism. Christianity is founded in the latter.

They never taught us the Talmud in synagogue but we were reformed Jews aka the least religious kind. Snippets of what a I hear from it are pretty evil and I don't share those beliefs practices myself.

I don't think it really matters where Jesus got his inspiration from, his moral product is obviously far superior to Judaism in every single respect that I am aware of other than maybe the trinity. I think the trinity is a retarded concept.

The God of the Torah is a vindictive jealous genocidal asshole, basically only a few moral steps above the demonstrably evil gods of the Aztec faiths. He tortures his followers just to win little bets with his angels, kills almost everyone on earth because they displease him, gets pissy because humanity didn't want to live in ignorance when created as curious creatures, trolls his first follower by convincing him to murder his son., and doesn't even follow his own commandments.

I think we would be better off dropping some of those MOAB's on Jerusalem and letting Israel fend for itself. Who the fuck cares, if people can't defend their territory they don't deserve to have it. Fuck Israel.

>the absolute state of Saradomist these days

your shitty thread got taken down because everyone can tell you're just some fedora neckbeard trying to teach actual christians about christianity.

I don't t have a problem with anything you said. I had an issue with the last thread, where people asking questions about jesus, were being told that the Talmud was the precursor of christian teaching. Very untrue.

The trinity is a fundamental key Point of christianity, has to do with Jesus, but not an issue for you.

The old testament God was brutal. For a christians view point, i'll give you mine. Jesus say the great deceiver, will try to deceive you in every possible way. That must mean the book we turn to for scripture could also be compromised. The catholic church is in my view and from day one compromised. The creation of a pope is its first fatal flaw. Men put the book together, made translation after translation. Man is the tool of lucifer, you must study hard and clearly, to find your way on the right path.

Wasn't my thread. Just was my duty as a christian to correct a path of teaching by people who spoke of things they have no business teaching. By accident or on purpose, not form to say.

Yes goy, keep believing in the Jewish god Yaweh.

>For starters, the Talmud say
The talmud is a book written by men who hate God, influenced by the wicked spirit of Satan.

The talmud directly contradicts the word of God.

Anti-christ kikes study the talmud.
God's children study the word of God.

Oh no, Kikes are all for Christianity if if means the gentile worship their god, Yaweh.

You don't have long to repent, better look for truth quick.y/

Heaven is perfect.
Heaven contains no filthy things.
Filthy people cannot be allowed in to heaven.
Lies are filthy.

How could anything that i said, make you believe that i worship there God.

I pretty much said that Jesus tells us to not believe what the word of there God says. That includes the books assembled by the Popes Church, relying heavily from the Tora for the creation of the old testament.

>How can we prove a fairy tale isn’t real?
Fucking retards.

>kek flag
>calling others a neckbeard
Sure thing guy.

I am not against spirituality, how ever people were fed a story that was conjured up to keep them going to church, they felt church was one way to keep people obedient, conform to some sort of law.
People do not know the true history of Jesus through the bible, nor will they. The Vatican has tried for decades to discredit the dead sea scrolls, which contains the same information that there library contains, but you were not given those facts. They wanted to sensationalize Jesus so you would want to go to church and here the wonderful stories. Search how they Vatican spoke against the dead sea scrolls and you will see it for yourself. Your church will tell you Jesus was the only perfect person ever to live, and there will never be anyone like him again. That is a lie to control you, Jesus tried and wanted to teach people to be like him, wasn't that the idea of all the gospels? Doing wrong by choice does give anyone the right to use the excuse (I am only human only Jesus is perfect) Jesus fought his issues, why do you think he struggled when he fasted? You see it is all a choice and no church will tell you that, Christians use Roman scriptures, where do you think the king James version originated from Romes bible. The true authority of Jesus lies in the oldest information you are aloud to see, Nag Hammadi library and the dead sea scrolls, The truth is a virus. Your church will tell you don't look there because it is the work of Satan because you will find truth and learn more than you know now, and they fear you will not donate to their lavish life style.

The Talmud is a sacreligious collection of Rabbinic rules and traditions that allowed everything from diddling children to sending your parents to the oven for being ungrateful.

They knew Jesus wasn't a Jew, and came to remove power from the Jew and give it to whoever would believe him. He revealed to the people of that day the deceptive practices of the Pharisees and the religious leaders, same reason they hate real Christians today.

which version of christianity is correct?

Very well saiid and i agree with most of what you wrote.

The word of Jesus is the truth. Anyone who is curious and wants to find the way, listen to what this man said.

Learn the 4 main books in the New Testament and study the teachings of Jesus. If something or someone tells you gods word contradicts the teachings of the messiah, you're going down the wrong path. Study and learn the message of Jesus Christ. Stay focused to what he teaches, his message will guide you thru all the lies that will be pushed at you.

Those lies will be everywhere around you. They will come from everything. Tay focused on his message.

oh yes, kikes hate Christianity because of Christ

Salvation by faith alone (no good works involved in determining your fate).
Ephesians 2:8-9:
"8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast."
That settles that then.
Jesus' last words before death were: "It is finished," meaning our salvation. It's a gift, not a reward.

Listen to what this man says.

This is the second day that I heard pepole suggest the Talmud inspired Christianity. This is only true in as much as the man Christ Jesus rejected the false Judaism which is rooted in the Talmuds. There is nothing Talmudic about Christianity, except that Jesus and Christianity calls the Talmud of the Devil.

We'll said. But read 1st John. He who is born of God does not continue in sin. If we are not obeying, and seeking to obey, and crying out in weakness to be delivered from the evil that we grab hold of - is our faith real?

That is true that we do sin less after being saved, but we do not stop sinning fully.

>It's a gift, not a reward.

Then why christians kill eachother over slightly different books?

>allot

>corrected the record on the true nature of the Talmud
i missed that could you link or something

You'll find that the Catholics have done the majority of the killing. The Popes of old used to ban reading the Bible. In my country, people were burnt at the stake for reading the Bible in English because Catholicism is Satanic in nature.
The true form of Christianity comes from the Bible itself, and not from the lips of some golden-robed paedophile sitting a golden palace in Rome, or from some loaded megachurch preacher.

Matthew 24:35King James Version
35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

True


Romans 6:23 King James Version
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Indeed.
If anyone is confused about Jesus' death's role in salvation, watch this video:
youtube.com/watch?v=ZvtaKr0PySA
This guy is on-point with most things.

They dress like one and say they are one, but they really aren't. They have no intention to try and be one, its just convenient for them to pretend to be one. At there heart, they don't believe at all.... But sometimes a christian fucks up really bad, and sins really bad. Allot of things could of led them to that place, to that type of sin. That does happen and everyone can think of a situation, where they could loos control of there rage and sin of that nature.

The movie Seven. The ending of it, most men would find themselves there.

The Jews rejected the God that gave them the Law and freed them from Egypt, and had him brutally killed. Truly, a synagogue of Satan

We cannot continue in sin. Even though we stumble, we keep the eyes of faith toward obedience. If we stop and accept and embrace sin, our conscience is seated and we risk hellfire in a great falling away.

Seared * (not seated).

We can't lose salvation, and salvation is accepting Christ's gift. I don't think an unsaved person would think about ignoring God and doing sin without any shame or remorse, IMO.
We're still in flesh, and flesh is weak.

We don't lose it, as in have it taken away.. but as in every Christmas gift, it can be given back or abandoned.

God does not immediately remove your free will and make you a good robot until Jesus appears to receive the Church.

So, is christianity popular enough to be infiltrated and subverted to turn it into a weapon for (((Their))) interests?

(((Their))) interests are actually Satan's interests. Jews worship Satan. Their star of David is mentioned in the Bible, and has nothing to do with King David. The star of David is a Satanic symbol, and the Bible says this exact thing.
When the Anti-Christ arrives, the Jews will mistake him for the Messiah, when Jesus had already fulfilled that role. Much like the Mahdi in Islam. The Mahdi is the messianic figure of Islam, who will unite the world in religion and government, as the Bible will say the Anti-Christ will. The Anti-Christ is the Talmudic Messiah and the Islamic Mahdi.
Watch this video to see the Satanic nature of Judaism:
youtube.com/watch?v=Rues1gVr338
I implore you to read the Bible and take it to heart before it's too late.

>kikes hate Christianity because of Christ
they hate christianity because it was invented to trick them into worshipping caesar

>Romans invented Christianity
>Romans immediately persecute the small number of people who follow Christianity to the point of killing them in public spectacles for the amusement of the cityfolk
This logic makes no sense.

it's what the history shows when you examine the literature

all of which is propaganda

youtube.com/watch?v=HS0WSEuousE

I've seen you on here before plastering these bogus Roman documentaries everywhere.

Of course. But man has proven they can and will corrupt everything for their own purposes.

But the church and all its institutes are not Gods temple on earth. You are gods temple on earth. Only you can corrupt it.

impossible it's my first time on this site, go back to avoiding bacon and for the love of the white race stay out of prison so you don't get stabbed to death ok

We can eat bacon.

The Romans did not invent christianity. The teachings of jesus is the christian religion. The Romans might of created the catholic church, and doing so for mans own desires. The distorted interpretation of his teachings and the twisting of his word, are more inline with your Gods desires and actions. Not those of Jesus.

Whichever the dogma - let us confidently approach the throne of grace through the blood of Jesus and run this race of life as if we want to win - holding nothing of ourselves back - for He who began a good work in us, will be faithful to complete it - even as the work is finished - the marvelous mystery of the the Cross of Jesus Christ

Introductory redpill

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unabridged, full redpill. 1,000+ pages

>doing it again

ORIGINAL REDPILL

>Judaism Unmasked
>by Johann Andreas Eisenmenger

Eisenmenger (1654-1704) was a German Hebraist who blew the top off this thing early. He published a huge book that placed the original Hebrew page from authoritative Jewish sources next to his German translation. Pretty much all your examples of "what the fugg, THAT'S in the Talmud?!" started here.

This book got the 200 Years Together treatment and usually isn't available. There's a fascimile of an English version from 1748 available on Amazon but that's it.

Not sure how much Hoffman re-uses--maybe Judaism Discovered *is* the English Entdecktes Judenthum but Hoffman added more? At the very least he used the same title. Kind of lame because "unmasked" sounds so much cooler and is more accurate than "discovered." But Hoffman tries to be as little inflammatory as possible.

Another major one.

Yes that's what Catholicism is. Look at the current pope for proof.

>Allot was said about Jesus,
>Allot is said to confuse people

The word(s) you're looking for: A lot was said
But I see your flag and understand.

Atheistfag here considering Catholicism. In Catholic thought, the Church can be full of corrupt people and used for all kinds of corrupt means, but it won't teach heresy. Maybe that's what this is? Until Francis says something wack ex cathedra Catholicism is still a possibility for me

>got shut down. For no apparent reason

I own the Talmud.
Buy yourself a copy before spouting chinese telephone tier bs.
It says nothing of the sort.
Happy new year Goym

Your beliefs are backward from reality. Humans are the vindictive jealous genocidal assholes - by choice. God is, and always was, brutally opposed to deception. Some Humans and all demons choose to use deception.

Thankfully God cares because clearly reformed Jews don't.

...

>bought a huge book in several volumes
>it's expurgated
you got jewed, frogfriend. Considering Celine's anti-kike works are banned in your country I bet you can't even get a straight Talmud because that would be "antisemitic" (no, I would never unironically write it that way).

As for killing a gentile who studies the Talmud and Jesus being born of a whore, this is common knowledge bro, lrn2Eisenmenger. Even the Jews have to admit, and they do, that he did not falsify his quotes, so they have to turn to rationalizations like
>but they were steamin' mad from persecution!
and
>every religion's got a dark side!
Not like Talmudism they don't, not even remotely close, which is why Christians WANT you to read the Bible. To this day only odd little presses will put out the truth about the Talmud because the publishing industry is in the kikes' hands.

Man, I would give anything to see the Synagogue of Satan thrown from their perches atop the media industry. The tsunami of truth that would roll through this country...

The Talmud is a set of 36 books. The oral teachings of select rabbis written down in the 7th century. There teachings override even gods words in the Torah. They do say exactly what i said and allot more.

they invented it to pacify the jews because they were causing trouble for the romans and they kept going on about their coming messiah, so they invented a messiah for them, made him overturn the old testament rules and then killed him

I don't think they expected it to spread throughout the empire and cause its collapse 100 years after becoming the state religion, but it proved to be a useful shackle on the minds of the poor, so they kept it

summary please, nobody has time for books anymore

I quess your goIng to tell me next that Jesus was a jew, so we have the same God.

Jews are from the tribe of Judah.
Jesus is from the tribe of Levi - (Mary was from the tribe of levi, Joseph was from The tribe of Judah. Joseph was not involved in the conception)

Both are Hebrews
both are not Jews though -

Only those from the tribe of Judah are Jews. It was the tribe of Judah the forsake his only son.

this is bullcrap, Christianity happened because Christ came , no Romans invented it, only jealous kikes come up with shit like that

>Joseph was not involved in the conception

I wanna see the paternity test

And I studied every single one of them.
Jesus is not mentioned once. They don't recognize him as legitimate anyway.

You cannot Jew a Jew.

Not ceiling Hitler. It's the worst Hitler.

your paternity test says you're a kike shill

just looking from heaven

jesus was a roman psyop
just like how you believe all sorts of retarded nonsense today without thinking twice

next you'll tell me david copperfield can fly and jurassic park was real

I guess I'll just post this again

Jesus was and is the real deal, you're just upset because you're a jew , who cares about you,? nobody .

>implying conversions arent valid

Abraham was the original convert. There are tons of people who joined the tribe and got circumcized

see, much better, even the french jew in this thread can check those quotes for himself

instead of digging through a 10000 page tome

I don't believe Jesus existed and I am an antitheist so no.
Your stupid succession and purity lines make me laugh.

Had one thread going earlier, a lot of good stuff in it

no, because I don't believe in fairytales for children and mental midgets

jesus is so real there's not a trace of him
they could crucify anyone on a stick and call him the son of god and you would believe it

its a magic trick

Most of those are false, falsified or outright fabricated anyway. Kek.

can you clarify which ones are and aren't then?

what if your copy is edited and only super rabbis get the OG talmud?

You just don't believe it because it soothes your cursed jewish soul, however for hundreds of millions of others Christ not only exists but is there to save them every day, and saves them .

More inane jewish bullshit. First he's a Roman psyop then when you meet resistance He never existed .

There are many traces, all you have to do is spend 5 minutes on Google to find them. Only you won't do that because as a kike it doesn't fit your pipe dream . Take the talmud as a source then that mentions Him extensively.

Also KYS with your culture of blasphemy, burn in hell.

You make it so easy.

Your lies and deception, are good examples of the many reasons why your ancestors had their temple destroyed, then thrown out of your home land, to wonder without a nation of your own, and striped of the title as the chosen people. Amazing how after 2000 years of suffering, being thrown out of every country that welcomed your people, you still cant get it right. Maybe its because you decided mans word (the Talmud) supplanted Gods word.

A bad egg, shall always be a bad egg.

You all worship a Jew. Jesus was a Jew. His Mother Mary was a Jew regardless who is His father. His father is likely A Roman rapist. The Christian Bible is the most Jewed book in World. Christianity destroyed the Glorious Roman Empire, Celts & Vikings.

Not what i meant. Anyone can convert, and will be welcomed into the arms of christ

>Jesus is not mentioned once
lol this guy. inb4 "Yeshu" and "Balaam"

The rabbis gloat about having him killed and say he's in a cauldron of boiling shit in hell now. As you know. Unless LARP b8

Some Misconceptions About The Word "Jew"

The term "Jew' originated in the late eighteenth century as an abbreviation of the term Judean and refers to a resident of Judea without regard to race or religion. People now refered to as "Jews", were known as "Pharisees". "Judaism" today and "Pharisaism" in the time of Jesus are the same.
informationclearinghouse.info/article1963.htm

Your pitiful attempts to dissuade us from the only true faith just go to show we are on the right track with Jesus Christ. Besides you have no Logos or any concept of it in your tribal festival of a religion and it shows as whatever comes out of your mouth is lies .

Christianity killed the Western Roman empire and flourished in the east . Byzantium is the longest lasting empire of all time. Try to beat that .
>pro-tip:
you can't and no-one ever will because you all worship satan.

sylvester stallone played rocky in film, but he's not rocky, and rocky isn't a real person

first you say jews lie about jesus, and then you use the talmud to say jesus existed

you are delusional, like all christian zealots
jesus is never coming back

Jesus never told Peter to make a religion
(((people))) just assume the name Christianity because Christians are a follower of Christ

Censoring the Talmud
2. Jesus' Membrum in the Talmud
come-and-hear.com/editor/censorship_2.html

ThE whole set takes up a couple bookshelves. Your one little book covers a fraction of the total material that rabbis study.

i see no valid arguments just the good ole im smart youre not bullshit, fake news, ect

get right with the son of God because youre gunna shit your pants when you meet the son of man. ill believe in an all powerful God, you believe in random bullshit. need we calculate the chances of events between all atoms in the universe since the "big bang" to know the downright absurdity of things just creating themselves? do we need examine the very complex software coding that runs on the masterwork hardware to know that we were designed? God is self evident. Christ did come and pay the debts. You can continue to be mad, but you know inside what is true. Theres no need to push, he will always be hated. Both the most hated and the most loved. We base time from his life and he has been studied and written about more than anyman that has ever walked the earth. i doubt you could ever get me to believe that all the books, written by all the different men, in different times, always got the character of God perfect over and over. not to mention the many things it speaks upon that has come to pass. like things we didnt know til recent tech proved correct or its very awesome that a little nobody underdog like rome would rise to work the deeds they worked. my God is awesome and you will all bend your knee in one way or another. just as there is a beginning, there is and end, and my God is both.

could be true, but the roman psyop theory makes more sense and it backfired because it didn't just pacify the jews, but the whole empire

vice.com/sv/article/4w7y8w/jesus-was-a-roman-hoax-to-trick-the-jews

>sez no jeezes in dalmud
>reddit oll
>iz smar chew
>i bolef dis
>iz drustwordy

god is nothing like what is described in organised religion, the same way hitler was nothing like how (((history))) says

>Byzantium is the longest lasting empire of all time. Try to beat that .
Byzantium was destroyed by Turk Roaches.
China & Egypt had Longer lasting Empires.
Egypt was great as Pagan. Egypt turned into a shithole after Christian Copts and MudSlimes rule.

Whatever makes you sleep at night sweetie.
I will take one that exists but has been falsified/simplified.
Yebhamoth 11b
What it really says goes along the lines of: "if a girl of 4 years old has intercourse, it's as if nothing happened."
When you read the Talmud there are a few rules to understand, one it is not superseding the Torah and said Torahnic commandments/laws are absolute and inalienable.
Second you read it with other individuals so that you can debate it.
A couple torahnic laws, marriage is 13yo minimum for girls. Extra marital relationships are forbidden. Honor killing is a thing.
What it means is that, since virginity is seen as a virtue and held sacred, if a girl so young gets raped before she is 14 then it is as if she is still a virgin.

I am drunk so sorry if it goes all over the place.

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