> be me
> have gf of 3 years
> she wants to move in
> I like my freedom.
> NoThanks.gif
> she speaks to my mother
> mother says I should not just move in with her, but think about marrying her.
> NoThanks.gif
Why do you anons get married?
> lose freedom
> have to constantly deal with a woman-child
I see no pros.
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The only reason to get married is if you want to have legitimate children.
I agree user.
But kids are not for me.
single life = bliss
Children are the only reason. You will have no sex, no cash and no respect after 5 years. Don’t say you weren’t warned.
well my mom loved me but i think thats due to grandpa raising her right and teaching her good morals its all about the good morals which my mom and grandma definitely have so getting married is important because grandpa says itll impress god better
Kids weren't for me, either, but I made the mistake of getting married. I got nothing out of it except the pain in the ass of divorce 14 years later. If you're not having kids, I see no benefit.
nice one dickhead you've wasted 3 years of your girlfriends prime years to find an actual suitable partner but instead you've strung her along for nothing for your own selfish reasons. listen to your mother
In the Western World only 1 groups life expectency is decreasing. Straight, White, Men. Why? Opiates, Alcholism, Suicide... Deaths of despair.
The "WALL" isn't just for Roasties user. You'll be old, and weak, and outclassed in your profession by younger bucks someday... You will have nothing. And you can pretend that won't bug you, but stastics say is most likely will.
I met a woman with a father. She was raised to become a wife and mother. Luckily I beat out the competition. We have our first son in two months.
Don't get married. Take it from me... My now ex and I were in a great relationship for a few years before we decided to get married. The MOMENT we got married, she completely changed. We were divorced a little more than one year later, and she left. Luckily we had no kids. Take it from me... women change after wedding.
Why does partnership require marriage?
Don't do anything that you don't want to do, even if she gives you an ultimatum. You already don't want to be married and think of your girlfriend as a 'woman-child', so just think how much worse off you will feel 5 or 10 years down the road.
Marriage is way too big of a commitment for you to go through with it just because it's what other people want you to do or you feel like that's what you 'should' be doing. I think you know this though.
its symbolic. If you have issues with symbolism then you may aswell not be on this planet
Yeah, much better to live longer under the nagging tyranny of an old woman.
No, it's not symbolic. It's a legality in which you give up a great amount of your future property rights. The symbol of marriage provides absolutely no guarantee that you will stay together, so its symbolism is meaningless.
Thanks for the candour user.
(UN)happily Married fag here and you're goddman right it's ok, in fact it's more than ok! Don't me stupid and wife up some barnyard exhibit/woman, don't be me. For your sanity if no other reason. Once I had kids it made it even more difficult to escape on so many levels. So if you want kids look into the whole artificial womb thing when it's out here soon.
Yes. Marriage is not for me.
just don't user. take it from us married cucks
i agree on the marry part. marrying right now is a disadvantage for males.
one of the biggest reasons for males to marry in the past was guaranteed free sex. however you can get that very easily from other sources in modern times. and then theres also porn.
but i disagree on the moving in part. how will you raise a family when your not even in the same household.
I did not force her into the relationship user. Neither did I promise to get married.
>t.cuckold prepping the bull
And if you DO decide to get married/live together, make sure to get a rock fucking solid pre-nup if you have any assets...
I love my wife, she loves me. We compliment one another very well and we've both provided a lot of support to one another over the years and I don't think either of us would be where we are in our careers without the other. We've got a kid on the way and I'm pretty happy with things.
I'm not entirely sure what "freedom" OP is worried about losing from having this woman around the house but if she tries to order/control his life in a way he doesn't like she's probably not marriage material.
Men do live longer in marriages. You can pretend all you ever needed was freedom from nagging whores, but for sure you would have ended up dead, in jail or high as fuck 24/7 without your mom, and will end up miserable and unstable as a 40 or 50 year old childless and wifeless man.
Human beings are social creatures, and there's nothing MORE social, then interactions with the opposite sex and family. Why pretend this isn't true?
>You'll be old, and weak, and outclassed in your profession by younger bucks someday... You will have nothing
But user, I'll have my savings. If I marry, i'll have less savings. If my wife further divorces me then, I'll have nothing
>Married
>Wife wants an open relationship >Spend the next 2 years banging her and her friends
>TFW I was a beard for her to bang chicks
So you will tell her all this?
What will you do as you get older user?
>Why did you anons get married
I honestly don't know. Maybe it was security or it seemed like the right thing to do?
I was in a relationship for thirty years until first partner died. We never married and had no kids. Life was bliss.
Met someone else. Got married after 18 months. Six years later and all I think about is getting out. She has grown up kids and her own home. Financially we're equal on wages and property values. We should have a brilliant early retirement to look forward to. She changed when that ring went on.
You let your mother become a player in your relationship? Faggot. She wouldn't have contacted your mother if she hadn't got the impression she controlled your life. You are weak, your GF was a moron for getting involved with a weakling, your are a mammas boy.
every major religion disagrees with that but ok. Marriage only matters for its original purpose of being married under God. The legalities and paperwork are just binding contracts
Living longer does not mean being happier. I know plenty of old men who are ruled over by shrill cunts that no one wants to put their dick in.
I'm in my 40s, divorced with no kids, and I'm a lot happier not being married any more. Fuck always trying to please someone else.
The family is the cornerstone of society, turning the sexes against one anothe is one of the merchant’s favorite tactics. The solutions is to get to know someone become good friends without fucky fucky on the first night and then into marriage with a woman that’s on board with raising a healthy, conservative family. By the same token, you also don’t pump and dump, but take the lead and start demanding more from today’s females. They go with any major band wagon and we have to take the reins and stop making casual sex and degeneracy, including pumping and dumping, an acceptable practice.
>every major religion disagrees with that
Except there is no more shame in getting divorced, as there used to be due to religion. So now marriage is really a sham. Either party can leave at any time without any reason.
And the reason that religions push marriage and kids is so there will be more parishioners filling the donation plates. Why do you think that Catholics are so opposed to contraception?
You could get married by the Church but not in the eyes of the law.
>Why did you get married?
I get laid every single day, user—often more than once, and she also cooks and helps pay the bills.
I come here to listen to MGTARDS tell me how much they hate women because they carelessly picked a dumb bitch and found out she was a dumb bitch.
In what way do they change? I've seen this posted a lot but with little detail?
Yeah, pretty sure that's a fast track to being bitten by the common law marriage jew.
>I get laid every single day, user
t. faggot who's been married for less than a year who's in a for a rude awakening
looks like your wife cucked you and then divorced you, and you're bitter about it.
what a failure of a human you are.
tfw redpilled redpilled wife, does not care what I do. Have two kids together. Adult relationship and a nuclear family at 26, with two kids, own our own house and cars.
>feelsgoodman.jpg
>living in sin
Do not cohabit.
Thanks user.
you're right marriage has been largely hijacked and has become superficial. That shouldn't impact two people in love who want to honour traditional marriage though no matter what the divorce rate is.
>And the reason that religions push marriage and kids is so there will be more parishioners filling the donation plates. Why do you think that Catholics are so opposed to contraception?
being pro-life and wanting to spread good messages extends beyond monetary value is concerned
Nope, not even that dramatic. Neither one of us cheated. She just "wasn't happy any more", and I hadn't been happy for years so I said go for it. Try staying with a woman for 17 years and get back to me on how wonderful it is.
Breeding for the white race. You're welcome.
listen to what you're saying... some how you will "lose your freedom" from getting married? just think about what you're saying instead of repeating memes
you're a lucky man don't forget that
I'll enjoy life for another 45 years and then get euthanised at 70
were you both virgins when you got married?
The easiest way for me to answer this is: After marriage, women expect the man to change. Men expect the woman to stay the same.
Neither of these things happen.
I get what you mean but
>implying marriage means she wont cuck you
>Men do live longer in marriages.
Me live longer in marriages compared to men who are divorced. Men in marriages and single men live equally long
how'd you meet her
No plans at all.
No, neither of us were.
Bingo, divorced men live shorter because they are forced to work harder after one, or they flat out off themself
I always get a kick out of these threads because it's obvious that the people who make them haven't gotten to a stage in life where they realize how important marriage is to their careers. Or maybe they have, and they are too stupid to realize it.
Did you ever think about how Mr. Sheckelstein doesn't want to have you over for dinner but he'll have your colleage, Mr. and Mrs. Chad and they'll all have a nice time with Mrs. Sheckelstein and enjoy a nice glass of wine and some good company. Then, when promotion time comes, do you think Sheckelstein thinks of Mr. Chad and his lovely family, or Mr. user with his silicone sex doll and robotic womb fantasies?
No matter how deeply you hide how you're choking down your precious "redpills" about marriage, people can smell a singleton. And they don't trust them. Never have, never will. Enjoy becoming that loner weirdo who smells like lonliness and desperation while me and my wife go on to successively higher incomes and more status in life.
BTW, the worst thing about this whole nasty reality for you hooker-fucking MGTOWtards is that it's a double advantage for us married folks, because my wife has a good job too and we help each other. Sorry losers.
I get the white race meme, but throw one's life down the drain for the race: No thanks!
The western civilisation is fucked irrespective of what I do. I'm happy to not be screwed over.
I used to want kids, and sometimes I think settling down with a woman and raising my own seed would be a good life. But in these dark times? Society needs soldiers to fight the coming war. Our society is doomed, but this race needs its fighters. People willing to die for a cause. I forsee that we are going to go through extreme happenings thatll nearly reset the west, but these coming times need fighters more than fathers. That much is a true. I am a fighter at the end of the day, ive reflected onmyself over the years and I realize Im willing to die fighting for a cause I believe in. The question is are you?
The fucking POINT of life is to have children to pass your genes and values onto. If you're WHITE, you should be marrying a white girl and having children. Quit being a man-child, be a fucking MAN. IF you're not white, or if she's not white, FUGGEDDABOUDIT
This is accurate at least for me god women suck I wish I was a faggot so I didn't have to deal with these stupid fucking games...
Yes very nice, you've missinterpreded SPECIFIC though. Give us a nice tidy list faggot
im not planning on fucking anyone who isn't my wife, and i'm not planning on marrying a nonvirgin. If this is unrealistic, so be it. If it doesn't happen before i turn 27 i'm going out in a blaze of glory and taking out as many fucking kikes as i can
I don't know about getting married to a woman who may be a terrible lay. That's way too big a risk for me.
>Did you ever think about how Mr. Sheckelstein doesn't want to have you over for dinner but he'll have your colleage, Mr. and Mrs. Chad and they'll all have a nice time with Mrs. Sheckelstein and enjoy a nice glass of wine and some good company. Then, when promotion time comes, do you think Sheckelstein thinks of Mr. Chad and his lovely family, or Mr. user with his silicone sex doll and robotic womb fantasies?
Which industry are you referring to? I work in one of the big tech companies. There does not seem to be a culture of inviting colleagues for dinner. I'm good at my job, and have been promoted twice in 3 years.
You become a child to them to be bullied and harassed for every perceived "fault".
You daren't eat a piece of bread for fear of being nagged at for being greedy. She walks in and looks at me as if I shat on the sofa for daring to sit down to watch the news instead of cleaning the kitchen. The dishes aren't going anywhere and if it's that important why doesn't she do them?
It's just a mountain of little things that get to you. They become empowered when that ring goes on. It's as if they really think they own you and there's nothing you can do about it.
My property and savings are ring fenced. She has almost as much so it's not a financial thing.
i feel this so much. I want i wife and kids so badly, but honestly i don't think it would responsible of me to try and obtain that life when there is a war to fight, a war that i am probably going to die in. I'm not gonna leave behind a widow and kids who won't grow up with a dad.
Yeah, that old canard about marrieds getting promoted faster due to socializing is no longer the case. The singleton who can work whenever needed and never takes days off for his kids is the employee who moves up now.
Why does sex stop after a while for married folks? I'm 20 so no experience with this stuff.
honestly i could care less about that aspect, i just want someone to love and someone to live for, and someone who loves me
you are taking advice about marriage from Sup Forumslacks who are alone shitposting on NYE
We went to highschool together, and I was really popular and she was the loser. After I turned 21, I asked her to play diablo 2 with me when I was drunk
I get your point about it being good for careers and finances but you come across as way more assblasted than the mgtow types so you’re leaving a lot out.
Basically you’re saying get married because your supposed to for sheckelstein and shekels.
Ive nearly died in a motorcycle accident twice. Ive been hit by a truck as well as a car, I remain standing strong I can't run as fast but I can fight and I know how fragile the human body can be. That said, Im ready to fight. If the big civil war2/WW3 happening comes and society breaks down. I'll surrender my arms to be a weapon for this race as it struggles to survive.
>Our society is doomed, but this race needs its fighters. People willing to die for a cause. I forsee that we are going to go through extreme happenings thatll nearly reset the west, but these coming times need fighters more than fathers. That much is a true. I am a fighter at the end of the day, ive reflected onmyself over the years and I realize Im willing to die fighting for a cause I believe in. The question is are you?
I've thought long and hard about that question. I'm willing to die fighting in a war, where death comes over a short time. However, I'm not willing to die in a slow attrition of getting married and having kids.
> get married.
> wife starts bossing you around
> have kids
> work twice as hard to maintain family
> kids disappoint you. Become liberals
> wife divorces you after a few years.
> can't chill as you have to provide for wife and kids.
this isn't the 20s anymore, stop getting married. Kids are still yours even if not married
Kek also this
Health and Happiness correlates near perfectly. Stop confusing high of the moment with contentment.
>Divorced men live shorter
Correct.
>Single Men live equally as long
False.
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>A major survey of 127,545 American adults found that married men are healthier than men who were never married or whose marriages ended in divorce or widowhood. Men who have marital partners also live longer than men without spouses; men who marry after age 25 get more protection than those who tie the knot at a younger age, and the longer a man stays married, the greater his survival advantage over his unmarried peers. But is marriage itself responsible for better health and longer life?
>The fucking POINT of life is to have children to pass your genes and values onto. If you're WHITE, you should be marrying a white girl and having children.
I'm white. The point of life is to leave it having as much fun as you can. That's the hedonistic view.
You didn't even mention that when you do the things they want you to, you catch shit about not "doing them right" (her way).
In the last few years of my marriage, her mere presence was like an oppressing wave of constant judgment. The fucked up thing is, she was a slob who couldn't cook, so it's not like she was this star homemaker who was in a position to judge anyone.
Tell me how to find a good wife right now or I'll do it
Lmao I've been married 10 years and still have sex with the missus whenever I'm in the mood. We both get along fine and are doing well. Then again, neither one of us is an America so there you go.
I don't date so I have no plans to get married.
How old are you?
IT people are usually singletons, so you will be outcompeted by them regardless.
I've been married ten years as well. No complaints at all. But I really like my wife, if I didn't this would not be fun.
Hahaha, exactly.
That's the old joke
Put a penny in a jar every time you get laid the first year.
Now take one penny out every time you get laid after the first year.
NO ONE has ever emptied their jar.
Also anecdotal experience does not constitute a argument for the general probability that staying single will usually mean less happy and higher morality rate for men, as shown by statistical evidence.
Not taking marriage advice user. Marriage is not for me.
Just enquiring why other people marry.
>Not living with your gf
You do realise that means other guys get to go around and sleep with her right?
You are being cucked and you don't even know it.
For me, sex didn't really slow down until about year 10. After that point, I didn't even care because I was just tired of fucking her. We'd occasionally do things to spice it up, like anal and bondage, but that's a really temporary fix. It just became so routine and boring that I started to prefer jerking off.
But they still will be bastards. Like it or not.
You're a weak faggot
This, why get married? My brother just learned this lesson the hard way.
why didn't you just say i am chad and save time bro
I dated a girl from junior year of high school to junior year of college and I know this feel. I honestly could not even imagine fucking one girl exclusively for 30+ years. Not even trying to sound like an edge lord.
the way i see it, marriage is giving your life to someone else and her giving her life to you. I know if i got married my life would belong to her and it would not be mine to give for the greater good. i guess ultimately we'll see how things go, but goddamn it if war ever did break out would feel like a coward sitting at home with my family while my brothers were out fighting and dying.
>she speaks to my mother
time to dump that bitch so she learns a lesson about going behind man's back
Dunno if I'll actually marry her but the woman-child cooks and cleans without missing a beat, and doesn't mind my autistic gaming ways.