Is the wall real? And if so, what age does it start?

Is the wall real? And if so, what age does it start?

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can you explain the wall?

It just got ten feet higher.

it's more like a quagmire that begins at 30 and gets more and more thick until menopause where men instinctively know you'll give them autistic retard kids and then be infertile

It depends on what country and what era.
I personally don't buy into the idea that it is a "wall". Women age. Their sexual health steadily declines. There certainly is the "wall" of menopause, but men don't want a near-menopause partner. So again, I think it's more of a gradual decline.
And lets not pretend that men have no wall. Yes, we have a long prime. But our virility does decline too. Our testosterone levels go down, our hair thins, we become shorter and we can even develop erectile dysfunction.
For example in pic related, a lot of people use this to illustrate how ageing affects the sexes differently. What people miss is that after 30, women gradually become more attracted to younger men.
While men do have less of a wall, we're still confined by the female wall. Even if you're 40 and healthy, you still have to settle down, since the women who are your age are declining. You could go for younger women, but you're basically slowly drifting away from their prime and you are forced to settle with a woman closer to 40. So we shouldn't just pretend that the wall isn't our problem.

The time to start a family isn't at thirty-five ladies, not going to sugarcoat it. Your cats aren't going to cut it if you can't lower your ambiguous standards in current year.

that is the paradox ofing a woman, at exactly the point you've had your fun and want to change your lifestyle to something more comfy, that's the point you can no longer get a man that's paid high-enough for that comfy lifestyle

We should put women on the other side of the wall.

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I'd let her settle for me, desu.

>Men age like wine, women age like milk

kek

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>le all women are sluts maymay

reminder people are having less sex than previous generations, so most likely your mum was more of a slut than women now adays and your gran was more of a slut than even her

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Choose one

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The thing is, she still looks decent, she probably looks 98% similar to how she did in her prime.

She doesn't understand that it's the decline itself, and not the end result of her decline, that signals men.

Her pretty face is still pretty, but the closer you look, the more you can tell, the foundation is slipping. It won't last too much longer.

Once it starts to go, it's already gone. Women cannot seem to grasp this. You're still pretty enough to fuck, even date for a while. But you're just a placeholder until a man meets a young woman who hasn't squandered her youth and wants to start a family at 20 instead of 30.

These women don't know what they want and it takes them 20 years to figure it out, "Oh, I guess I do just want to settle down."

But by then, it's too late, you're competing against younger, prettier girls with better attitudes and less baggage, who aren't confused and who know what they want and they don't have to project their desperation because they're young, they're not desperate at all, they have all the time you squandered on yourself and they're going to use it to build their family, not just chase after drugs and cock.

fading female fertility every single year and past 30 they're uninteresting and have too much wrinkles and emotional baggage so you turn towards younger and more impressionable women with less baggage and who are hotter.

what about number of partners? (you know the actual stat of importance. it would make sense for a monogamous relationship to bang more than someone on the circle of cocks)

Party all the time and then take advantage of some dumb guy, who lived sad and lonely the entire time you were parting.
That's a crappy thing woman have been doing to men for some time now.
No hymen no diamond.

>mfw I'm promised a virgin wife, user.

>Going from place to place, man to man
Riding the dick carousel.

Sends bob the builder and vegans.

Nature's way of telling you that women are less fertile, and will produce offspring of a lower calibre.

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women fall off a cliff in terms of value after 23 or so.

im not shallow enough to see women as walking vaginas but...they really do age poorly. I blame makeup.

Is there a wall for men though?

It depends. Fertility in women declines quickly. When they reach 30 the likelihood of them getting pregnant is 60%. At 35 it's half that. That's the biological 'wall' which can be accelerated even earlier by bad decisions like being a whore, binge drinking, doing tons of drugs, etc. So the 'wall' for promiscuous women hits harder and comes at a faster rate.

Yes. 26.

Roastie detected

Nyet. It's a commonly known fact that the attractivenesss (not physical, but financial and emotional) increases as men age. Women often seek out older males because they feel more secure with a well-experienced man.

Why do women love calling themselves 'independent' instead of unlikable?

Just broke up with my wall'd gf (who genuinely loved me a lot and did lots for me) after finding she had been riding the carousel for 18 years. Abstract kind of feeling, mens.

Men for thousands of years have been marrying younger women. My great great grandfather was 44 when he married his 17 year old wife.

Add to that the fact that, given some effort, self-discipline and genetic luck, even a man's physical attractiveness doesn't start to really deteriorate until he is well into his 40s, maybe even 50s.

Kudos to that lucky bastard of a grandfather of yours.

how can you not love poos? :^)

My friend has a granpa who married a 30 year old when he was 65, and another friend has a 60 year old family member who is ripped as fuck (genuinely looks 35) and is married to a 30 year old model looking girl. The red pill is that this only works for men who have great genetics or great wealth. If someone has a perfect skeletal structure (perfect face and tall, wide) then that will be attractive to women even into old age. Men who looked like shit at 25 won't turn into a playboy at age 45 unless they get plastic surgery, or get rich and attract gold-diggers.

Bastard knew his shit.

Yes they are realizing that success isn't worth the sociopath tenacity required. A family would, but socially un-remarkable. Frustrated by her oppressive stay-at-home husband. He caused her failure by supporting something she didn't know she didn't like, when he should know better. Shes pissed and sees the only option. Slander his reputation in the community and the state, grabbing everything she let him help her earn then exile yourself into support because women.
Only when se can move on with a nice man is she would be finally safe from his abuse.

The wall depends on the country.

25 to 30 on average.

Japan has a teem called Christmas Cake. Cakes are given on Christmas, but nobody really eats them from the day after onward. Same with their women. From 26 onward they are considered beyond their prime. This has changed recently, but a good rule of thumb is if a woman is 30 or older, avoid her. She is past her sell buy date.

>fuck these hoes, amiright, guys?
>i'm totally not a virgin, tho
>it's not me, it's the women that are wrong

Studies show men who marry younger women live longer. The opposite for older women.

Looks like Pam from le Office

I told this story a couple times here on Sup Forums...

had a girl, were going out for a few years and i really loved her and wanted to marry her. she looked far younger than her age- she looked 18 at 29. long story short she left me, said she loved me but thought she was "missing out on life and didn't want to settle down"

fast forward a few years she is pushing 34. i turned my life around, got fit, got moderately well off financially and generally got my shit together. i ran into her as she was incredibly drunk on a night out and i was popping out to pick up some pizza. she saw how much i'd changed and immediately tried to get some validation from me.

she asked "do i still look young for my age"?
I didn't plan the reply and hoped to God I did, i'll never be as savage if i'd tried though. i said "i'm seeing a girl right now who looks 25, except she actually is 25"

It keeps the Mexicans out. Are you even paying attention?

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She brought it on herself desu

Nice job, user. Hopefully she killed herself afterwards.

Not something as hard and definitive as 'wall' but there is certainly a long period of decadence in looks, strengh, etc that varies wildly from man to man.

I'll tell you what's the wall explained from a guy who found it.

You and your gf expend your 20's getting prepared for a better future. Always with the idea of "Working hard for a better future". You had your university degree, you worked for free for almost three years on the slavery career also called "internship" and when you hit the 30's you realize that degree is more worthless than the bible and internship is useless if you don't have a relative in the industry.

Then, for the human resources standards you're old and tired so all that time working hard for your puny career is useless.
You can't have kids because of your shitty unrelated and futureless job and the only thing left is to get old and die. Doesn't matter how hard you try, you're fucked because you can do anything in your life, anything but get younger.

So the wall does exists. I love my gf but she's also letting herself go and I don't do anything to improve my life anymore.

The 30's hits you harder than a concrete wall.

This whole "men age like wine" won't mean shit if you fat fucks don't start eating well and hit the gym tho.

You did good. If you married her there was a fair chance she would ruin you in five years. If she was on the carousel for so long she lost the ability to pair bond.

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White: 24
Non white: 39

Khal drogos neck should be around your collar,so it looks like you are raping her when you wear the shirt

My mom fucks my dad all the time, roasties have one night stands, my mom has had sex thousands of more timez than a roastie , but has significantly less sex partners, aka just my dad

Terrible
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You are right, I could feel a coldness and inner suffering in her. Nothing was exciting for her. She had trouble reaching orgasm unless I was semi-abusive toward her (she only really orgasm'd after previous times I was close to breaking up with her). The more I knew her, the more I recognized the shell of a former hedonist, until I forced her to confess.

what the actual fuck. she do meth or something?

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All women hit the wall at age 19

Makeup fucks women up bad. That shit is toxic, which is why you should always make your girl use as little as possible, it will fuck them up.

She's doing meth with Jamie Foxx

Every man deserves to gain the satisfaction of a blown out roastie seeing you with a hot 21 year old.

REEEEEEE

40 yr old guy can still pull a 25 year old woman who is fertile. Some out of shape slob with no social skills or etiquette might not, but that's his own fault.

Shove it up your cunt. He's totally soft-cocking it like a beta soy fag and you know it.
Being faux-reasonable isn't going to wake women up to the brutal reality that they've been conned into
thinking there are endless greener pastures over the next hill, and the next, and the next. And there's just not.

White women are ruined at a young age. If you want a good one, try to marry them before they turn 19.

If you wait longer, they will have taken miles of dick.

I met a girl over Christmas I went to HS with. She was so cute back then. We're 32 now and she looked fit but haggard. I got fit and never looked better. Men definitely have the better deal with aging.

>as a godess
God damn the fucking ego on these bitches

A slob with no social skills can pull a woman no problem if he's perceived to be high status. Only average fags need to look good or have game.

jesus christ
Southern aging like a fine bottle of piss

They never mention how to avoid the wall.
"study what you love"....."But what you love may not be where you want to work forever". ..."Also college is essentially a drawn out four+ year asterisk to high school curriculum. But needs you to spend tuition on top of federal tax dollars to update 1990s technology with 1998s
tech because Tech companies only endorse STEM but can pay an Indian with the same education half the wage. He didn't need federal laid either. .....
My point is learn a trade. Ask if it all comes down...Society. What are you going to do for your community?
Be a producer. Not a rent seeker or wage earner.

Yes, but my point is that it becomes gradually more difficult for men to settle down with sexually healthy women. Because while a 40 year old man can pull a 25 year old woman, a 30 year old man can do it with half the effort. It doesn't matter if men age well if their counterpart doesn't.

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quality shitposting right here, folks.

No it's a fantasy by ugly permavirgin incels who fantasize about getting revenge from the women who made fun of them in high school

>I don't fuck around
>I fucked 60 guys in two semesters(about 1 year)

Men are obsolete especially omega males. Just go to the corner and die you disgusting pigs

If we didn't live in a world that condoned premarital sex and pornography, young people would be looking forward to marriage and their marriages would be more sexually fulfilling. People would marry at a healthier age and their romantic connection would be deeper.

How will the endless line of burntout roasties find male providers when todays societies doesn't even encourage men to provide? All the nu-males that are broke as fuck with useless degrees/jobs will meet the endless horde of burnt out roasties. What will happen?

Similar scenario happened to me. I knew her for a about a year and change before hand as a mutual acquaintance in the social group outings.

We got along good so I started asking her out, outside of the group stuff. Previous relationships and flings were pretty much based off sex, which was fun while it lasted, but I knew they were just short terms.Things were great for the next couple months so I had a little hope.

Then her post wall friend comes back into the picture. Wants to have fun! Shit starts going down hill

What was promising long term turned into "I don't want a relationship right now (with you)". Few months later, she's back again, wanting to start over. Tell her you chased after temporary fun with temporary people, who aren't even good friends.

Queue the "it wasn't my fault" "but we weren't dating officially!" "it wasn't like that!" "you were the best guy!" nonsense. Couldn't even just take responsibility. Now she's hitting 33 and that sell by date

Why are omega males so triggered by the idea that older single women can have casual sex with hot alpha Chads whenever they want?

This is the reason why women aren't supposed to be sluts. Any successful culture that has stood the test of time has shamed women for wanting to be promiscuous because their sexual market value starts to tank in their mid 20's.

Feminists don't even understand, they're tearing up the fabric of the culture and fucking themselves over in the process.

I'm 36 and it's so satisfying to see girls from high school who knocked me back age like bananas on facebook

The wall is the line between a woman being dateable and undatable by men of value who are looking for a wife.

Example:

>Women age 25, attractive, fertile, normal job, few previous boyfriends, emotionally developed, positive attitude. - marriage material

Add 10 years

>Women age 35, haggard, barly fertile and given up wanting kids, management position (her job comes before you), serial dater for the last 10 years the men have been getting worse and worse, Emotionally cut off, bitter angry attitude. - pump and dump her and give a fake name.

The wall hits at ~30. It's the tipping point between the 2.

there are good looking mature women but chance u are going to be one is super small

Got it wrong my dear. They are just pump and dump material. Sure as shit don't want that living in my house.

>what will happen?
Total familial collapse, as planned.

I'm ready user, how long until the collapse?

It's happening now but I feel 3-4 years it'll get worse.

around 30 is when a woman should marry and have children (same goes for a man desu)
35 is pushing it
by 40 you should really settle down for cats

You're missing the whole point, it's fine have sex with an older woman but no one is going to marry it.
Except maybe soyboys like yourself.

shes a fucking whale

look how fat her right arm is. your tricks wont work on me.

women who didn't want you in your 20s don't deserve your 30s

Men hit the wall just as hard from my experience. Hairline goes and faces get bloated/wide.

women hit the wall
men have to spend their 20's climbing it

If you're a woman, you should really be actively looking to get married around 25. It takes a while to find the right person and women are on the downhill slide for sexual market value at that point.