Since 1997, house prices in the UK have increased tremendously (260%)...

Since 1997, house prices in the UK have increased tremendously (260%), whereas the average wage has increased by a measely 60%.
The same trend is seen in every major Western country.

How does this make you feel? Still happy about m-muh capitalism?

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>How does this make you feel?

I don't care at all. This is normie business and doesn't concern me in the slightest. Get the fuck out of my board you shilling normie fagit

>How does this make you feel? Still happy about m-muh capitalism?

In Englands case it is almost 100% down to mass migration, i.e your fucking fault.

STOP Mass migration, and build more to watch house prices fall. but that wont happen.

I've basically come to the conclusion that my quality of life will be shit if I continue to live here. Keep in mind I am a doctor.

You pay and arm and a leg to live in the UK, and there is no freedom, and its filled with status signalling leftists. Pretty much every right-winger or trad christian I meet is foreign.

Moving to the Czech Republic for a bit in March, fuck this place

>automatisation and computers increase productivity
>GDP per capita grows a lot
>wages are stagnant

How does it make you "capitalists" feel to know that the 1% is cucking you harder than any criminal could ever wish to?
Are you proud to be debt/rent slaves all your lives?

0 fucks given. Let them do what they want to do. I couldn't do anything even if I wanted to. I'm just a crippled faggot who gets by on the scraps they leave for the 99% AKA welfare.
Why the fuck would I ever give any fucks? If there was any justice in the world I'd have been aborted after the first ultrasound whereas now I'm living the sweet life not working at all and getting drunk every day.
For that matter why would you even care polack? Your entire GPD isn't even close to making a dent to one of the 1% weekend spending money. Get real and stop being a faggot. You'll never be anything and you'll never start a revolution because you're nothing but an idiotic slav with delusions.
KURWA!

We're all gonna make it, user.

>UK
>Capitalist

Gonna make it all the way to the crematorium to save burial space. Life is just a meme.

>Still happy about m-muh capitalism?


Yes. House gained 20% of its value in less than a year.

>UK
>Capitalist

Even disregarding the fact that our government is highly socialist, it's a deliberate bubble to support a fiat currency, and it's going to burst eventually

Socialism did so well.

In the U.S. housing prices are going down and wages are going down as well. It's a win-win, right?

How does it feel to know, that that the only things growing under capitalism in the US are
>average student debt
>house prices
>GDP per capita
>percentage non-white population
>the wealth share of the 0.1%
while the wages remain stagnant for decades?
Yes, it will be actually much harder for you to get an accomodation of your own, and to get out of debt, than it was for your (grand)parents.

...

Here is the UK property redpill
drive.google.com/file/d/0B24wHuyDETj3dzNzS1E5V1lfNkU/view

QE money given to bankers at low interest rates to lend to twats using meme mortagages at income multiples that made no sense to buy up lots of property with landlord-favouring accumulation tax breaks plus foreign corrupt money flowing in and lack of new housing plus social housing being sold off and rentier class essentially renting from banks.

Essentially it's the bankerssaying Oy Vey and the neo-liberal belief that high house prices encourage population to feel richer so they spend more money and vote for neo-liberal centrist parties.

Problem is long term you just store up problems and now in the UK housing is a political issue but all the middle-class and bougie twats that reside in media and academia are all lanldords with a "portfolio" of properties that has made them enslave renters who would have otherwise have bought the property these twats have overbid for because they watched too many property programs and now decalre how important landlords are at providing housing when their speculation has fiuelled the house price rises that prevent that renter family from buying

It's insane and crony capitalism at it;s finest with short-term thinking, no ethics, huge mountains of debt and it's all started to collapse as prices in key arras are dipping, rents plateauing, housing become political and the boomers dying off. The subsidies for meme-landlords are being removed and the emeror has no clothes

It will be blamed on muh Brexit but this is macro-economic structural QE issues along with poor housing policy.

A dip happened after 2008 but the Tory Right-wing twats inflated the bubble again with more subsidies to bankers, builders nad landlords.

>Yes. House gained 20% of its value in less than a year.
Unless you have two houses - you can't cash out, and thus this gain is meaningless.
And when your child wants to move out one day, you will have to pay 20% more. Still happy?

Are you really going to ignore the effects mass immigration had on this?

>Still happy about m-muh capitalism?
>1997
The year the Labour Party got elected, huh? Interesting.

Capitalists will always push and lobby for mass migration because they profit from it.
Also, capitalism as a system kills your culture, replacing it with a materialistic corporate pop-culture. People with no culture have no pride and will be more open to mass migration.
Just admit already that capitalism is an unsustainable system

You say like it's impossible to mix free-market ideas and economy with a social conservative mentality. In fact, until the 60s, this was the case for several western countries. A capitalistic (or at least mixed) economy but with strong focus on tradition + conservatism.

>You say like it's impossible to mix free-market ideas and economy with a social conservative mentality
Yes this is exactly what I say.
1960s was medium-stage capitalism, which inevitably leads to the current late-stage of affairs. Provide one counter-example if you can.

Real capitalism has never been tried

Gordon Brown raided pensions to fund muh schoolznhospitals - ie massively expand the State and create an entrenched class of Labour voters - so the rich poured money into property. Buy to let landlord numbers shot up as a consequence.

The only way to fix it is a revolution. The West is brainwashed into the cap system though, but the youth are waking up and ready for a change. I give it 15 years before a real revolution gets going.

I don't view this as a purely capitalistic phenomenom but a globalist one.
The fact that, in the west, this took place in most countries at the same time shows it wasn't a process that ocurred naturally, rather, it was pushed by the elite.

When your grand children and children are relegated to renting land rather than owning it. I hope you remember this post

It's fucking disgusting and really it is the fault of capitalism. All of it. Sup Forums needs to realize this. The elites have successfully redirected any potential anti-capitalist sentiment onto idpol to distract from class consciousness. People who would normally be anti-capitalist now begrudgingly support it because they perceive socialists as blue haired tumblr sjws thanks to media manipulation. If Sup Forums actually cared about reforming the things they talk about, communism and/or socialism are the only ways forward.

Damn. It is almost like the supressive effect on wages from immigration and the importation of those who get a boost by ethnic nepotism and preferential treatment from the government if that fails has caused instability.
And what policies went into effect around that time user?

>in the west, this took place in most countries at the same time
In the west - yes, because it's all highly connected economically, and - without exception - in the late stage of capitalism.
See how Eastern Europe (Poland, Chechia, Slovakia, Hungary) has been in the same political sphere of influence for almost 30 years now, and we're still, to this very day, 95+ percent white, and stiffly resisting EU pressures and threats to accept the rapefugees.
Notice also how we didn't have capitalism until early 90s.

No. They aren't. As much as I want to agree with you. Its manipulation that plagues us. Socialism, communism, liberalism, all those -isms won't save us from ourselves. Don't be naive

How dare you respond to a shill with such logic and wit.

>communism and/or socialism are the only ways forward.
No - the only way forward is the abolishment of the industrial-technological order.

No it isn't you ignorant twat. It's mostly the fact that our economy is largely driven by banks trading financial products that are based on mortgages which they own. They lobby the government to stop new homes being built. The last time there was a market correction for the value of these financial products the government sold off our last remaining gold reserves and gave them over 700 billion of the tax payers money. The country is still 95% white, how does 5% brown people account for a 260% increase you total fucking cock sucker? I wish you would die. I hope you have to suck Nigel Farages cock in hell for twenty million years.

What are you talking about? My house is gaining value. My oldest son has already moved out. What would I be paying 20% more of?

>omg it's the immigrants hurr durr THE IMMKGRANTS THERE'S NOTHING TO ECONOMICS AT ALL IT'S FUCKING IMMIGRANTS INNIT

I dislike immigration for the right reasons. You are a useful idiot.

Your house is gaining value, but unless you can sell it, it doesn't mean anything. If you sell your house you go homeless, so you can't turn that profit into cash.
I really don't know how to explain it in simpler terms.

Well I don't really agree with the poster you're responding to, but non-white population is not a measure of immigration. Just looks at how many Slavs there are in the UK.

The same thing is happening in my country. I'm sure many more are being affected cause all the banks and people nowadays get the same stupid shortsighted ideas without regard for their countrymen.
We are all surely doomed. The only thing that can save us is Islam. How do I sign up, Brother?

Same thing occurs in America

Crypto-currencies will save the UK housing market.

Your advocating socialism and I don't think you realise it

No chance lad.
If anything the speculative bubble that is crypto has led to many people in the UK borrowing on credit to "invest"

This will not end well.

>capitalism makes house-prises rise
>socialism doesn't
How does it feel to literally be retarded?

((they)) want you to think that it won't end well.

The problem is the west taking advantage of and abusing the 3rd world. Its a phenomenon that barely anyone takes notice of but the people that have had first hand experience of. Its one of the greatest stories never told.
youtu.be/CVuVlk2E_e4
Watch this when you have time.

Sorry to hear that Jaques Kallis user.

Global recession on the way. Housing and asset prices to be BTFO. Save cash or Buy Gold and metals.

Keep the faith and think and read all.
You are on Sup Forums in search of BASED truth and believe in a higher power and a combination of divinity and logic and reason.
Therefore you are de facto Muslim.
BASED Ibn-Sina and Ibn Rushd.
Sup Forums will save our minds.
Only God can save your soul.

>Don't tell the Saudi 4 school sheikhs or it will they will behead me for Blasphemy,

It has allowed me to live a life of leisure so I'm ok with it.

>see a legitimate criticism of capitalism
>BUT WHAT ABOUT SOCIALISM?
I should be the one asking you how it feels to be retarded.

No lad, it literally won't. Current boom in the UK is fuelled by pure credit-based speculation.

The blockchain tech is BASED.

But if you think crypto in it's current state can challenge (((them))) then I'm sorry your're incredibly naive or please explain how? How with a collapsing dollar, global recession it will help the UK housing market?

You realise why the City of London is so powerful right? They'll crush it in 2 ticks if they want.
The British are the Treasure islands of the world. No literally, look it up.

oh you're a gold bug

This just so tiring.
Supply and demand determine price.
You increased the demand for homes by increasing the people
While
Increasing the supply of people who wanted a job but not increasing the demand for their labor.

Not really. I couldn't care less.
But China is already preparing for the dollar collapse by having the Yuan interchangeable with oil futures and backed by Gold reserves.

current crypto cannot save the Uk housing market. Unless you can enlighten me how? (beyond muh crypto is BASED)

It
is
the
>SUPPLY OF CREDIT!

>But if you think crypto in it's current state can challenge (((them))) then I'm sorry your're incredibly naive or please explain how? How with a collapsing dollar, global recession it will help the UK housing market?

Cryptos will act like a stabiliser for the BoE when the dollar, the euro and the housing market collapses.

((them)) are already trying to get into the crypto industry through rippl, but sadly ((they)) will fail since there are other options available.

Wow capitalism sucks and makes wages stagnate compared to housing prices. We better let in tons of unskilled foreigners to increase demand for housing and supply for labor to solve this. Diversity is our stength!

Then how do you explain the GDP per capita growing rapidly, while the wages are stagnant? See How do you explain the growing wealth inequality? See How do you explain the growing average (inflation-adjusted) student debt? see pic related.

>inb4 it's all muh migrants

You speak like a retard so I don't think you have legs.
The youth are to stupid to fulfill a revolution. It'll be quickly helmed by an old globalist plant. They'll fight to put what they hate in power.
>Wasting your breath
Rarely anyone sensible frequents this site
The UK is breaking away from the EU because they plan on collapsing the EU economy and housing their cash in the bank of London.

>another m-muh migrants poster
I relegate you to this post of mine:

>prices should be what i think they should be
>prices shouldn't reflect all available information because of my fee-fees

I wish you were right
I hope I;m wrong Re: crypto and (((They))) get btfo.

I suspect your naivety will be proved wrong.
Absolutely no chance the BoE will use Crypto as a de facto stabiliser.
This is the same BoE that refuses to acknowledge the housing bubble and rampant inflation.
Fuck, they won't hardly ever increase so much as a few Interest rate points and you think they'll revolutionary change they're entire foundation and use Crypto as a stabiliser?

Only if Mark Carney takes LSD the fucking smug Leaf

>Absolutely no chance the BoE will use Crypto as a de facto stabiliser

financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/news/bank-england-‎to-beat-bitcoin-rival-cryptocurrency-coming-‎‎2018‎/

>Bank of England to Beat Bitcoin with Rival Cryptocurrency Coming Out in 2018

>You speak like a retard so I don't think you have legs.

If billionaire, I would literally produce an entire film with Arnie to say this one line in a scene.

Bonus:

>What the prosecution said to Pistorius

>That flag

Ironically, the reason is an influx of labor, driving down wages, and increasing housing costs.

wow i didn't realise bank of england policy was such a sore topic but seriously what can you do

Very true about the EU
They're investments run though London finance and UK offshore-lands

Interdasting but check the sauce under the pasta and it's still the same:

>Mark Carney would prefer a restriction to limit use to transactions between central banks.

>However, since this would place the new digital currency under government regulation, it is uncertain if it would still be considered a cryptocurrency, which is inherently free of regulation and control.

Again I always said blockchain tech is based but current crypto isn't but now I see where your point was heading BASED Ibrahimovic user.

>IF WE TOTALLY REGULATED EVERYTHING YOU COULD MAKE FOR INCOME, WE'D ALL BE EQUAL, RIGHT GUISE!?!

You have to be 18 to post here, you edgy commiefag cunt.

Capitalism is just an economy model, you still need collectivism/tribalism.

>Muh de-regulation solves everything let bankers rape if they want

Thanks for increasing the prices of both of my properties that I rent out to Poles ironically. You can fuck off again now, #getbrexited

>more people = demand
The funny thing is there are 5 more houses in America then there are people. 5:1. Yet you still have homeless.
Sounds interesting. Though countries in the end of the day do have the power to seize bitcoin use in their countries if the feel they need to. This is what I find strange. (((They))) have the power to defeat crypto easily. So why don't they?

>>However, since this would place the new digital currency under government regulation, it is uncertain if it would still be considered a cryptocurrency, which is inherently free of regulation and control.

Carney and the BoE can shill all they want for their shitcoin, but it will lead to more people buying alternative cryptos mainly bitcoin, litecoin and etc.

>This is what I find strange. (((They))) have the power to defeat crypto easily. So why don't they?

((they)) are trying with ripple, but it will likely fail now because it got exposed for being backed by ((bankers)).

>We can't all be equal without absurd amounts of state regulation
>So let's just spread our asses wide for the (((1%))) (((bankers)))
>I may be a debt-slave rent-slave for life, but at least I'm free

It means plenty if you pay property taxes and insurance on it.

>Still happy about m-muh capitalism?
kys you commie fuck

>>What the prosecution said to Pistorius
That's just mean. Lmao
The end draws near. I really don't like the idea of a grand recession.
Your a part of the problem.
>implying Satoshi(that's his name right) isn't just an intelligence agent or IA brainstorm

Immigration raise the number of people looking for house.
/thread

>A fucking hohol sucking circumcised banker dick
Wow color me surprised

come to wales user
house prices are cheap and everyone is white
I swear there's loads of jobs here and it's not depressing at all
pls bring english money user

With what money if wages aren't rising and a recession hits?
People are already buying crypto but using major credit to buy.

>everyone is white
post prof

>With what money if wages aren't rising and a recession hits?
Starting to happen now

>People are already buying crypto but using major credit to buy.
But when the fiat currency collapses, it will lead to the debt being dirt cheap.

...

>people will ignore millions of years of competitive instinct bred into humanity for muh equality
Communism is the economics of parasites

Respectfully disagree.
Think fiat collapsing will render current crypto literally worthless.
People still think of crypto in terms of fiat worth i.e. i coin = x pounds
; if the fiat isn't worth much crypto will not be worth much but I know many disagree.

No nationalist is happy about this

Unrestrained Capitalism is the ethics of greedy unethical and unGodly Feudalism.
>I own capital so I can do whatever I want to society and bum you and you can't say no because your life is only worth x amount of shekels and you have no shekels.

That's why (((They))) are money lenders and worship the almighty shekel above all else.

You need balance and rules for a decent society where actual work and merit and not "connections" and "inheritance" or "class" has value.

>How does this make you feel? Still happy about m-muh capitalism?

Makes me more pissed off that the average voters seems completely unable to link 500,000 people per year moving in to the nation with a depression of wages and an increase in house prices.

how?
it's like 99% white where I live
much more right wing than the rest of britain from my experience - at least socially

not much goes on here though and there are pretty bad problems with drug and alcohol abuse and violence
houses are much cheaper though

HOLY SHIT THE MOTHERFUCKING ABSOLUTE GOD DAMN DEGENERATE FUCKING STATE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wales does seem pretty comfy.

I'm actually starting to doubt Capitalism aswell at this point. I'm no commie but the system won't last forever and it's delusional to think so.

Countries debts keep increasing.
House prices are the highest on record.
NHS waiting times are getting longer and don't have enough resources to sustain the population.
Job market is shit. Honestly, the liberal arts meme is also true for engineers, I know a couple of engineering graduates who do shitty jobs where they are overqualified.
The economy is still at a slow growth rate.
The number of homeless people is at an all-time high.
The number of millennials living with parents is terrifying.
Child poverty is still ridiculously high.
Student tuitions are ridiculously high.

And then you have the fact that most jobs are going to be automated which will cause mass unemployment. So, I honestly don't blame the younger generations for wanting to vote for Jeremy Corbyn and wanting socialism.

Marcel spierdalaj z komunom

Like most problems we have the problem lies with the intersection with democracy.
You can have free market capitalism or you can have democracy.
You can't have both.
You can have a welfare state or you can have democracy.
You can't have both.

Same thing in Australia.

God Speed Mel Gibson user.
>Sydney property crash soon.