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I think we can agree soundtracks in the series was solid, regardless of whether the series was good or bad.
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I think we can agree soundtracks in the series was solid, regardless of whether the series was good or bad.
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First for Mars needs moms.
Is this a general? You could at least choose a better Gundam to circlejerk over.
This one just ended is not like there will be more threads
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Big fucking deal.
Even SEED and AGE have good OSTs.
That is the one thing that is consistently good about Gundam
Difference is that SEED's OST was wasted on a bad show.
Gaelio would go on to be one half of a very successful Electronic House music duo.
Are you saying that there are no better Gundams to circlejerk over?
>2. Upstart
we New Orleans?
Grand irony of this show is the fact that the whole narrative seemingly aims to criticise Tekkadan for taking shortcuts yet the ending takes the biggest shortcut of the century for an easy way out and a "happy ending."
Free and democratic economies are more effective and prosperous than feudal, militaristic autocracies? No way! Why won't any of the real world autocrats just have that kind of epiphany and fix everything? Why won't child slavery and inequality just disappear from our world? We have enough examples in the free world how good management leads to prosperity and happiness of the populace. Ara ara, why won't people just learn.
You have a point but you type like a retard so I'm going to disagree with you and call you a faggot.
I do have a point. And there's nothing wrong with my typing.
Coincidentally right after G-Tekketsu ended Kudelia's seiyuu, Yuka Terasaki (33), announced her marriage + pregnancy.
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So the same thing that happened here?
name how the show could have ended any better?
How?
>Kudelia isn't pregnant in the show
Miscarriage confirmed.
Is that a belated marriage announcement or is she only getting married because she got pregnant?
Why does it have to be limited to ending? The series was pretty horrible from the first episode.
>40. The Dignity of Lords
Almost thought I was going to hit by a Dainslef.
How was it horrible and how could it have been better?
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because my question only relates to the ending. thats why it has to be limited to the ending.
The previous thread was full of arguing about this one, you can check the archive. Also it's not my responsibility to explain how the series could have been better, it's like asking "how you can improve a pile of shit", even if it couldn't be improved doesn't mean it's perfect because it's a pile of shit.
You were the only one talking about the ending though, while the person you were replying to was clearly talking about the series overall. Instead of arguing why the series wasn't bad you want to argue that the ending couldn't be improved? Seems strange to me.
On top of my head.
Action scenes were weak for the most part, they wasted more of S2's time on characters that went nowhere (ie Hush) that they could've used to help develop more the existing cast. Lack of focus toward built up ones felt wasted.
McGillis going full retard by S2 was somewhat jarring, I get the point, but it really is off considering the difference and at this point anyone would've realised putting their eggs with him was dumb, pacing was fucked in both seasons, S1 had the whole Brewers and Dort arcs while S2 felt somewhat directionless for a lot of it, like bringing up MAs and not going through with it. Orga dying could've had larger impact if he died earlier, would be good to see that destabilisation of their group and their attempts to patch it up.
Dansleifs as much as I enjoyed them, just felt forced in as to justify why Rustal would win, half assing their ban and just felt like beamspam.
The ending for what they wanted to do isn't bad, it's just getting there that was bad.
>Also it's not my responsibility to explain how the series could have been better,
If you're going to shitpost and say the series is shit then you might as well explain why it was.
well he clearly avoided a response because he had no proper answer so it sorta took the wind out of his sails if he couldnt even focus on one aspect of the show.
Well at least Kudelia gets a ham in the oven too in a way.
>McGillis going full retard by S2 was somewhat jarring, I get the point, but it really is off considering the difference and at this point anyone would've realised putting their eggs with him was dumb
The point imo was to show that as cool as McGillis would be, and as much of a schemer as he was, he was both damaged and essentially childish. Rustal pretty much summed him up as someone who "never grew up" and that was his downfall, since he gambled everything on the idea that attaining Bael would grant him automatic victory.
The central theme of the whole series is child exploitation. The young being exploited by old schemers. The series begins that way, the first core ends that way, McGillis' entire personality was formed from it, and ultimately it's what led to his demise.
There's a recurring contrast in the young characters, the kids, relying upon fairy tale allegories like Kudelia in the first season, and McGillis' beloved outlook of the world needing to be run by justice and strength, and knight tales etc. Even Mika and Orga run on a very limited, vague motivation of getting "somewhere" they never specify.
As the series goes on, some characters basically grow up. Kudelia becomes more realistic and less enamored with the Maiden of the Revolution imagery; Gaelio was enamored with pomp and running around with a knight looking Gundam until reality bit him hard...and he changed becoming more weathered and realistic. Yamagi had the foresight and sense of responsibility to actually leave Tekkadan and become just a regular guy, in a sense growing himself.
>Orga dying could've had larger impact if he died earlier,
We already saw the impact it had in the last few episodes. I don't see how it would have been better if he died earlier without his character arc complete.
>Dansleifs as much as I enjoyed them, just felt forced in as to justify why Rustal would win
Nothing wrong with using your own resources to win a fight.
>without his character arc complete
His character arc never really properly resolved. He only learned his lesson in S2 after they lost a bunch of people towards the end, which they could've much better done by Season 1.
>it's shit because I say so
Great argument.
>Gaelio was enamored with pomp and running around with a knight looking Gundam until reality bit him hard...and he changed becoming more weathered and realistic
Gaelio was a delusional revenge obsessed retard whose only purpose in the story turned out to be killing McGillis and paving Rustal's path toward victory.
>Yamagi had the foresight and sense of responsibility to actually leave Tekkadan and become just a regular guy, in a sense growing himself.
It's Takaki you idiot. And none of that had anything to do with his personal growth. He resigned because of his sister, that's literally it. It's a recurring motif, only the people who had some kind of anchor beside Tekkadan (Biscuit, Takaki, Zack) ever thought of resigning. Others had nowhere to go, so they stayed.
>He didn't need to wait all night to get lucky.
Concept was fine but execution was the problem really. They could've easily condensed this down without having to pad it out.
Arianrhod only had two aces (if you can say Julietta was only really implied since they just shat on her a lot with her MS) and in the world where beamspam was gone, it felt like they just needed to add it in as to even the field for this end because at that point Mika was an unstoppable force in universe.
>Yamagi
You mean Takagi, right?
>You mean Takagi, right?
Yeah got them mixed up.
Kudelia will marry Akatsuki in a few years.
>Few
At minimum she will have to wait ten years
She can just reverse mating press him while he grows up. I bet she fondles his child dick when she's alone with him.
More like I'm tired of posting the same thing again and again.
The show never properly develops it's characters. Over half of S1 was a road trip to earth at a snail's pace with characters repeating stuff they said the last episode and Kudelia switching back and forth between "I'm useless" and "I'm determined".
Since they joined Teiwaz and Turbines they switched to easy mode. In fact the show treats them like the underdogs yet they breeze through almost everything. For an amazing military force even if in decline, the antagonists are a complete joke with Mika curbstomping them in the same boring manner in every encounter never developing tension.
Kudelia becomes determined suddenly because Fumitan died. Never shown why she's SUGOI, she's SUGOI just because.
Tekkadan makes retarded ass decisions but the show sucks their dick and they get out unscathed.
The Dort arc in it's entirety.
Sensible characters or characters that get even just a little amount of good development are either forgotten and put in the background or written off.
For the MC, Mika is almost completely devoid of development and is 99% the same as when the show started. I heard people say that he's supposed to be static or it's because he didnt grow up correctly. He's was just a murder machine that offered nothing else while there were plenty of chances to develop him. Maybe it's right that he's supposed to be that way but he's dull, unengaging and unsympathetic, a quite terrible choice for an MC.
The antagonists spend quite a lot of time inactive or doing nothing.
Retarded plot conveniences to create character drama or save Tekkadan's ass.
The S1 finale was absolutely terrible.
A few points from above are valid only for S1 but a lot of them carry into S2.
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The show is padded as hell and tries to extend itself when it lacks the sustenance to do it yet in the end a whole lot of characters have rushed development, are not developed at all or amount to nothing despite having quite a lot of screen time, Hush, a lot of Tekkadan's recurring characters, Jullieta.
It presents elements that never play into anything yet it takes time to focus on them.
McGillis went full retard and that could play into him being a manchild but it was a terrible switch from the smart schemer he was shown to be.
This awkward switch is because there's quite a lot of contrast between the feeling of each season. In S1 Tekkadan survives things that they shouldnt and almost everything goes right for them, a heavy contrast in the gritty realism the show tried to sell, yet in S2 everything goes completely wrong for them which while correct shows how out of place S1 was.
As for the ending it was feels like they tried to shoehorn a "happy" ending for Tekkadan in order to make their deaths not in vain with Rustal going along with Mars independece, Julietta sympathizing with Tekkadan and Tekkadan finding regular jobs when they are still criminals and were normal enough to bail out earlier.
I admit the points above feel disjointed and are more of a list but they were expanded in previous threats and I've seen other points presented by other people that I also agree with but didnt write down.
>I bet she fondles his child dick when she's alone with him
>In S1 Tekkadan survives things that they shouldnt and almost everything goes right for them, a heavy contrast in the gritty realism the show tried to sell, yet in S2 everything goes completely wrong for them which while correct shows how out of place S1 was
That was very noticeable and incredibly weird.
>Seems like you missed the whole point but ok. That's one way to look at the point of his character.
Changes to gaelio's character were borderline cosmetic, some naivety was lost, but his main motivation remained the same as through most of S1 - revenge. He got his revenge and it never even came back at him. That's some bullshit from a series which put every single revenge seeking character six feet under to drive home the point that "revenge is pointless." Including Orga who picked up the lesson before he even attempted his revenge, and Akihiro who was dying while executing his to hammer it down some more.
>Gaelio was enamored with pomp and running around with a knight looking Gundam until reality bit him hard...and he changed
He changed into a chuuni running around in an edgy gundam named after a god of revenge and living in his personal "Look at me McGillis!!" bubble. Weathered and realistic my fucking ass, don't make me laugh.
16 and pregnant, what a life!
I don't remember a scene where this track was fully played.
Honestly, seeing a movie about Agnika Kaeru kicking MA ass would wash the bad taste of IBO's ending. Bael was a criminally underused suit, alongside others like Flauros. It'd be nice seeing other frames too.
Reminder that Shino was BI and would haven't have opposed to Yamagi's erection in this scene.
>Bael was a criminally underused suit
Literally everything not named Barbartos/Graze.
Please, in the end Yamagi wasn't gay and Atra wasn't pregnant!
I'll always love this storyline for showing how fucking retard the no-homo group is.
The whole S2 was a huge Gaelio wank. Literally every plot point in this season aligned itself for Gaelio's maximum convenience. His alliance with Rustal, McGillis losing his mind, Julietta/Iok plot armour, Tekkadan slipping on a banana peel. Literally everything. His sister even conveniently stopped existing so he didn't have to worry about reconciling with her and could devote all of his time to his new waifu.
Which is the track that plays at the middle/end of the 2nd PV?
This ?
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Not him but you broke the word wrap.
Yamagi was never confirmed to be gay though, just that he's in love with Shino. And even that was framed as him falling in love with Shino "because he's Shino not because he's a guy, Yamagi doesn't know his sexual orientation." Japan just can't casually spit out the g word unless it's trying to make a statement or make them HARD GAY.
>"because he's Shino not because he's a guy, Yamagi doesn't know his sexual orientation."
What? They literally never said that. That was Kudelia's VA trying to make a positive statement about love.
Also they literally called Shino's Bi which it's more dangerous since they sell gunpla of shit shit.
I wonder if Sunrise still expects people will support this show. A/Z utterly tanked after its shitfest of an ending and this wasn't much different.
In the end Kudelia become what everyone thoughjt she would become Kuckdelia
Hush dodge the bullet, Akatsuki is Kudelia wife son now!
I have a feeling they focused on Barbatos the most since it would've made Mika's last stand have an impact on the audience more. Heck it wouldn't even be long winded to say Akatsuki might find a dug up Barbatos and get it fixed and under a new design if they ever make a sequel.
Even SEED is better than IBO.
Destiny is also better up until episode 38, where Luna goes full retard for Shinn. IBO is still better than that plot development.
*dainsleifs your path*
You're living on borrowed time, old man.
All Gundams get a movie. This ain't over yet, Rustalfags.
There's a reason they didn't show teen Almiria.
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>All Gundams get a movie
They do? G Reco's movie will take a few years more and the IBO staff said in the event they don't have plans for anything IBO related but if fans keep buying their stuff they would maybe do something
A/Z got a perfect ending.
new AU series when?
They were too early for the overt fujo revolution
What could have been
>They were too early for the overt fujo revolution
More like they just sucked at it. A/Z wasn't overly fujo despite what people may think.
It's just that Slaine has the most fuckboy design of ALL TIMES.
Even if he wasn't a total cripple, Mika would still be a shitty father.
Anyone else thought it was weird that Mika never talk about having a baby with Atra to Orga? They were like brothers but Mika never said a thing
It might have held Orga back from the full out fight
>if fans keep buying their stuff they would maybe do something
It's dead Jim, IBO practically suicided by fucking over most of the characters people actually cared about and excessively jerking off Gaelio. Gaeliofags do not make an entire fanbase, and most people are pissed about the preferential treatment.
;_; this is the only thing i hoped to see in just before watching final episode
those 3 actually look like cool characters why didn't we get this instead of IBO
People wanted more IBO thats why they asked in the event tho. Maybe they just want to see Akatsuki fucking shit up
The fact that Mika and Akatsuki never met pains my heart, atleast Akatsuki won't be as autistic as his father since he has parents to look after him.
The high point of Tekkadan was at the beginning of S2. If they had sold all their assets and company, they could have just quit and used the money to fund education, job hunts, and maybe forge some paperwork as necessary. They didn't have that many members and all along their only real goal was (supposedly) to own a farm.
I agree with him about one of the major themes being "Ambition/Childishness". Mika, Orga, McGillis, S1-Kudelia, and even Hush have no end game plans. No practical goals or desires. They just sort of want some ambivalent hope or dream, such as being the "kings of mars" or "muh Bael" and except reality to kind of fall in place once they have enough power.
Reminder that Akatsuki sees Kudelia as a friendly stranger and not as a family member since he calls her by her name and not "mother"
Hush really got shafted. He died for nothing.
>two dykes
>parents
Not even the court agrees with you.
>People wanted more IBO thats why they asked in the event tho
No they didn't. Audience had no voice during the event. All the questions have been prepared in advance before anybody had seen the last ep and read out by the voice actors. After the giant fuck you on an ending to anyone who isn't a gjallarhornfag, who's gonna want to see more?
Gundam always consistently has OST that is good and memorable. Even to spinoff that nobody cared like SD Gundam Three Kingdoms
>who's gonna want to see more?
It would surprised you how many people want a season 3. Personally i think the show wrap up pretty well so i don't feel the need of a season 3 or even a movie
>Gaelio sees no further than revenge on McGillis
>Julietta just sort of wants to be of use to Rustal
>whatever the fuck did Rustal want, nobody knows, save for the nebulous "keep Gjallarhorn role as the protector of piece"
None of that precise goal lacking is exclusive to the protagonists.
>Akihiro after killing Iok goes and kills more Graze before dying
>no onscreen fight again
Fuck Barbatos.
Because it's still within the "nothing happening stage" plot wise and on hiatus
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>that earing
I hope Rustal-sama doesn't notice Kudelia's Tekkadan-themed jewelry, that'd be bad publicity.
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wew the balance has been reversed
The popular characters are dead, Gaelio without Ein or McGillis is nothing.
I dont want to see a season 3 but i wouldnt mind more in this world, i think this is the first gundam world in a while that would have enough potential to have more stories either as a prequel or sequel
akihiro didnt fight more grazes, he was fucking dead right as iok died cause he was basically triple impaled.
rustal did know she knew tekkadan and its implied he recognized eugene and the others as ex-members. He just has no reason to go after them anymore, the only reason he did was due to their alliance with mcgillis.
Gaelio's revenge was a practical goal which he worked to and, successfully, executed. There was no fairy tail ending. He wanted him dead and he died.
Rustal is just doing his job.
Julietta was a Kudelia-like character who was in the wrong and learned her lesson. Her entire character was designed to be someone "living her life incorrectly".
The point of the story was to grab onto whats in front of you and to find happiness in real things. Dreams should be tangible, like having a child, buying a house, or owning a business. Atra finds happiness in being with Mika and she lives. Julietta no longer lives just to become more powerful, she has Gaelio and seems to care about her career. Kudelia is working on her lofty ideals step by step now.
>It would surprised you how many people want a season 3
A few retards on Sup Forums and /m/ who watnt to see Ride fuck shit up don't count. And I'm pretty sure Ride being that way is just another heavy handed metaphor for Tekkadan being baaad, and how staying in the vengeful mindset stuck in the past is also baaad. Some might want to see Rustal's fall, but if Ride's situation is anything to go by, itd just be "shit gets even worse for Tekkadan survivors" kind of plot.