Communism will win

Explain why communism is bad without resorting to ad hominem, strawmen, historical distortions, or affirming the consequent (It's bad because it's bad).
Protip: You can't. Communism is a literally perfect system of governance and economics and it WILL win no matter what you stormtards say.

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I dont want the government to tell me what I can and can't own, where I'm going to work, or how much fucking bread I can have. fucking kill yourself.

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It Doesn’t Value Creativity
You Have No Rights
Reduced Incentives to Work Hard
Indifference Towards the Environment
Mass Murders

Because a jizz mopper and a rocket scientist should not be compensated equally and no one wants to be the jizz mopper, except OP of course because he is a faggot.

The information processing requirements of managing an economy exceed all but the parallel processing of the market

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>stalin killed 40million
>Historical distortions

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If it was such a good system then why would the Soviet Bloc transition over to pluralism?

>Explain why communism is bad without using the reasons why communism is bad.
Because commies aren't human and they get the helicopter

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Because people like to eat

>Explain why national socialism is bad without resorting to ad hominem, strawmen, historical distortions, or affirming the consequent (It's bad because it's bad).
>Protip: You can't national socialism is a literally perfect system of governance and economics and it WILL win no matter what you commies say

ever wonder why ex commie countries fucking hate communism?

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Ben Shapiro’s sister. Got memed for a recital vid and it’s been Khazar Milkers ever since.

Starvation and war.

Basic economics

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Prices determined by supply and demand and moderated by conpetition will always provide the resources people value with vastly better efficiency than a system without.

Communism posits that resources can be allocated efficiently in the absence of hierarchies, price signals, and voluntary transaction. This is impossible without AI. This is why all attempts at communism fall into despotism: Clever, power-hungry people realize socialism is the maximal extent of the glorious revolution, and that resource allocation will inevitably fall to a central power; they then fight for that power.

But, as I said, until true AI, decentralized resource allocation (prices) will always be vastly, infinitely more efficient. It will provide what people actually demand.

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I'm glad I live in communist country. It's great!

If I make 6 bicycles or only 3 bicycles in a day - it doesn't matter - I get paid the same!

Communism cannot function within an individual as it forces the individual to abandon self to become a cell. We are not coded for such actions and are proven not to function that way.

> mumbo jumbo I made up based on someone else's mumbo jumbo. I haven't read a book in 6 years.

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Communism/Socialism only works in a small community where everyone has everyone else's interests in mind. More successful adaptations are in family structures. It just won't work at all in a large scale

Sage

Socialism seems to be working fine in Europe, Korea, Japan, a hundred other countries...oh and the USA.

Here's the reason. Apply communism to anything you own. In this example let's say it's your arm.

Now imagine the government comes to you with 4,000 one armed men and said and says, "for the good of the community you must now share your arm." He gives you a wink and says, "don't worry, everyone gets an equal piece".

The above is why communism fails and also why communism ruins frisbee.

Wrong. Communism fell in 1991 along with the USSR. North Korea fails too because of droughts, aggression, and countless other reasons. China is not a communist country. Communism looks good to some on paper but fails when applied to practice, as history proves. If communism is so good, name one county that is viable as a superpower and not a 3rd-world tier shithole.I'll be waiting.

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Do you even know the definition of socialism?

People like to eat have things of there own.

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but all those countries were prosperous before socialism made it worse....

Only islamic gommunism maybe. Someday. Somewere. In another galaxy.
The whole gommunistic adea is utopical. Humans want to have nice things, want to spend money and so on.
Marxist idea of equality is antihumanistic. We are not insects, we have personalities and shiet.

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Lmao at all these non-arguments itt
>muh free market
>muh ussr was real communism
>muh North Korea is a failed state
Kek keep trying

bad incentives

In communism you can not produce enough food to sustain your population. In capitalism you produce so much food your people become obese.

Socialism: a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

How is this not your everyday life in the USA? Is there anything that is NOT regulated? Your masturbatory habits do not count.

Do you?

It plans on making a stateless society by giving control of all resources to the state.

op will be killed no matter who wins

Europeans will win
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Japan and South Korea are far from socialist. Europe (I'm assuming you're talking about the Scandinavian countries) have mixed economies and are rich for their natural resources. Venezuela on the other hand is supposed to be an oil haven but their socialist economic system has prevented them from prospering like Luxembourg or Qatar.

If you had to give an example of a successful communist society you could have at least given China.

Communism is incapable of efficacious calculation of needed production.

A Nobel prize in economics was won for the formal mathematical proof before you were born.

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> prosperous
> 150 years ago when they were strictly imperialist nations.

Yea, enjoy your instability and war you pawn. I don't fight wars for shitbirds like Little Bush and Drumpf.

>Economics is dumb!
>Not real communism!
>Starving people on the verge of revolution is a communist success story!

Fucking delusional.

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>kai murros

That man makes me want to grab my gun and start a race war. Good taste user

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Venezuela is a corrupt nation with half the populace infected with toxoplasmosis. Crazy town.

Korea strong handed every land owner in Seoul in order to build their city of the future.

Japanese people each own a part of their country...and it's debt. And if you think regulations are strict in the US or Europe, you haven't tried living in Japan.

Is this where we start talking about killing lots of people?

not every human, invluding those in power, are capable of living their lives in altruistic manners. people are selfish, and when the few control the many the few despise the many.

Who knew that making the government larger brings more incentive to corrupt it because there's more pieces to corrupt?

It incentivizes non-virtues such as laziness and stifles Eustress.

I’m probably going to get ignored but I’ll try to answer you succinctly, OP.

Basically, the labor theory of value has been scientifically disproven. I doubt OP has even read part of Capital or its condensed, soyboy friendly version, nor has he likely read its refutations. Basically what I’m saying is that products of labor aren’t given value by the work put into them. Mining minerals can be said to have similar amounts of labor involved yet they’re all quite different in value. Because gold has its qualities and platinum has different ones too. I also doubt he or she has read Wealth of Nations or its refutations.

Secondly it espouses a fantasy of borderless, stateless and nationless living. That no borders, no state apparatus and no ethnic culture will lead to paradise. This is pure fantasy. Not only does it ignore the reality of racial differences and impossibilities of integrating and eliminating all the world’s cultures. It also ignores that societies and cultures are sociobiological realities, and if people don’t need state apparati, then they most definitely need societies.

Third, we’ve observed from reality that authoritarian socialist nations have trouble regulating output and have regularly had starvations. This is because centrally planning food supply and industrial production is difficult when dealing with a population of human beings. Even in war there’s often massive amounts of inefficient surplus production. You need the supply and demand response to communicate between producers and consumers more efficiently than if technocrats try to plan for every variable or attempt to do inhuman things to the populace to fit the quotas (holodomor?).

I’m also totally ignoring nu-Marxism which still has its roots in Marx’s writings and contemporaries. This is the SJW and Jewish crap that says the nuclear family, religion, culture and racial differences are all spooks: social constructs with no basis in reality.

They look real to me.

How about you directly try to disprove our arguments instead of resorting to "muh x counterargument." It makes you look like an ignorant kid who can't explain what he says yet asks others to do so. At this point I'll assume you're a shitposter or some broke wage slave who is too dumb to think of other ways to make money.

>Explain why communism is bad

Everyone steals everything, nothing is produced because everyone becomes a thief, then everyone starves.

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communism wont work in modern society unless you somehow manage to destroy all media, internet and kill all americans

this
ruskie user knows whats up, people are fundamentally selfish for themselves or their families, a shared commie-type economy is not sustainable because people want more shit. and it should be possible to work more to get more shit.

>communism is perfect
>humans are imperfect
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>historical distortions

That's a funny way of saying all the evidence is against you

There are a lot of problems with communism, but one of the most glaring is this. Communism claims that its end goal is a global, stateless, classless society. How to get there? A socialist "dictatorship of the proletariat". How will this totalitarian socialist state transition to an advanced, stateless & classless society? It will just go away on its own. Seriously, this is what communists actually believe, that once a totalitarian superstate is established, it will just DISAPPEAR ON ITS OWN.
>"not real communism"
Because "real communism" is literally impossible.A complete and total joke.

>by the community as a whole

"historical distortions"
Kek. Has to start the thread with the "not real communism meme." Saged.

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Communism is about breaking down the social and economical hierarchies of civilization and replacing it with a system that claims to adhere to individual needs and wants.
My argument is that individual needs are better met under a system that promotes social and economical hierarchy. Production that is left in the hands of people that want to create product for the purpose of obtaining currency and stimulating infrastructure and employment is and always has been a necessary tool in developing civilization. (Although I believe that there can be a little bit more regulation, I am not in favor of a consumerist society in any way.)

Ok, I'll follow your retarded rules because Communism is literally so fundamentally stupid that it can't even affirm itself.

Resources are finite. To accumulate resources, one must succeed. Success requires labour, skill, and time. Labour, skill, and time are all finite. Success is finite.
Inaction does not require labour, skill, or time. If you do not act, you will fail (starve, lose, etc.). Failure is infinite.
The only thing that can be infinitely redistributed in society is failure. Hence why communism works for 10 years MAX and then everyone starves. They run out of success (smart people, driven people, etc.) and are left with failure.

Communism is a system that punishes success, so people stop succeeding. Capitalism rewards success. That's why it works.

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>Explain why communism is bad without resorting to ad hominem, strawmen, historical distortions, or affirming the consequent (It's bad because it's bad).

History, OP, history of how Communism has failed every time.

Now, go kill yourself, slide B8 thread faggot.

Every communist country struggles and lives in toil and strife.

Khazar Milkers are a shill tactic to get this community looking for Merchant standards of beauty,

Explain why communism is good using the same restrictions.

You dipshits know this is a slide thread, right? 2 fucking posts from the OP, and your still replying like faggots. Wake the fuck up.
SAGE

its bad because, the only way to stop farmers from skimming off the top for their families and forming black markets to undermine the system is through force and the kind of force that requires tyranny. this and this alone is why communism can not work and has never worked without great loss to human life. the only way to keep people from keeping for themselves is through fear, because if you let one person get away with it then the next guy will say well he is getting away with so will i, and the entire communist system collapses. bread lines miles long and inflation causing massive starvation and death.
THERE IS NO ARGUING THE FACTS OP COMMUNISM IS FUCKING STUPID.

Rigorous disproof of communism is far more valuable to whatever idiotic “preserve the white race” meme thread got pushed off.

That's because Seoul is designed purposefully to be Stalingrad against the North Koreans.

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I'm disgusted by neo-soviets honestly. The communist thought isn't a Marx(Era) inventiom. What are you faggots about?
Also, one class society is utopiaans and it isn't even a fun one.

>Rigorous disproof of communism
Did I slip timelines again and this is some kind of high tech 1950s?

You haven't needed a rigorous disproof of communism in over half a century. Everyone knows it's retarded. What you need to do is mock the foolish and resentful who are pushing it out of greed, sloth, and resentment, not argue with them. We live in the memetic age.

fpbp

Communism literally CAN'T win... it's a parasitic system...

The absolute best it can manage, is killing it's host, and then dying.

Well executed, user. Perfectly succinct.

Basically

>literally
who unfiguratively gets the beach houses under communism?

mommy

it goes against natural law, we've been over this

You will never live in a communist America. Ever. Why obsess over something that's NEVER going to happen? Ever.

>Communism is a literally perfect system of governance and economics and it WILL win no matter what you stormtards say.

This is a claim with zero proof. It's totally failed. There is no one successful case.

Prove me wrong.

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