Should the male drop outs of society(incels/basement dwelllers/weeaboos etc...

should the male drop outs of society(incels/basement dwelllers/weeaboos etc.) be encouraged to transition so that they can become productive members of society?

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>should the male drop outs of society
yes

>be encouraged to transition
no

absolutely, they would make great fuck dolls, and may give competition to white women and force them to improve

No
There is absolutely no reason to flood the market with this

plenty of people that work and pay taxes look like that, try not to cherry pick ITT for an example

How does encouraging mental illness and degeneracy add make people productive members of society?

Fuck off collectivist shill, people aren't cogs in a machine who need to be fixed when they stop turning.

People are individuals entitled to live their lives as they see fit if someone wants to opt out of society and can survive like that (they shouldn't get benefits) then let them

you might not particularly like what they become as people, but thats not an argument sorry hun

>they shouldnt get benefits

but they do, so your point is moot

So what's the source?

Are you saying that there isn't a single person who doesn't subscribe to the precepts of modern society, that isn't on benefits?

agreed. they do get benefits. Had a very close friend become the 3rd and eventual live in bf for a 50 year old plus sized couple while he was in his early 20's. She doped him up with heroin and pot. He's "clean" now but he munches that box for rent. Plays skyrim all day.

unless they are homeless, and even then, there are homeless shelters and gibs from church/welfare programs.

You didn't answer my question, are you saying there are zero people who exist outside of modern society that isn't receiving money from the government in one way or another.

Yes or No.

Mentally ill faggos do not contribute to society.

it's an ABU diapersuit

You should be holocausted.

No, degenerates should just die.

If that happened, then Sup Forums would cease to exist and be reborn as /lgbtqfpy/

What the fuck is productive about fucking a guy's ass? Faggot

its not a yes or no type of question. proving that there arent any would be on your part because it is your claim, im trying to be fair by giving you the benefit of the doubt because it is possible, but when i think 1st world nations, i dont see how. even 3rd worlds get goverment gibs in some way

.t furfaggot

proofs

>muh bibble said
fuck off

Why only the drop outs? Why not everyone?

I'll have you know that I'm actually a man of taste and not some furfag

who is that semen demon?

That's not helping me find who it is.

Ok, seeing as you refuse, let me answer for you, as I am a self-sufficient individual who made enough money in my 20's to become independently wealthy and by all your metrics I am one of these societal outcasts.

So yes, people like that do exist, and it's our choice and not your place to decide what the fuck we do with our lives.

You're a bottom-feeding collectivist who wishes he had the power to push these half-baked societal laws forcing people to do things and will never actually achieve this goal because you yourself are a fucking failure by society's standards.

If what you are prescribing is the correct thing for society, then society would already be doing it.

Basically fuck off and don't tread on me

people that already have joined society usually have hard limits on what they would go through with. somebody that rejects society is open to an alternative more so than less

Women are negative net producers in society

>literal parasites
>OP encourages welfare state parastism
>OP is worse then a tranny faggot pretending to be a woman for communist welfare

Please KYS faggot

>i am an outlier and a snek flag
ok, and your point is still moot.

>you will fail
well that's your opinion but it's also a falsehood. this is already trending among the aforementioned demographic, this thread is a reflection of that

SALSA

I would obliterate that asshole

the difference is that they will have male brains, cant apply the same logic.

example: refugees flood your country and impregnate your women essentially breeding you out. transitioned mtf cannot breed, so this isnt a thing.

Yeah, fill NEETs full of hrt so they can be comfort traps whenever real wimminz are being bitches

How is my point moot? I have just countered your entire premise.

Do you have any stats to back up your assertion that i'm an outlier and that most outcasts are on benefits? Let's see some links

Where are you deriving the right to tell me how to live my life, explain this to me. How are you going to enforce this retarded plan?

Please explain yourself

if we get more sarina valentines then fuck yes
only a matter of time before trannies start competing with real women over the prime men

Only because I feel generous today.

exhentai.org/g/400192/a90af1723c/

Putting them on HRT and removing the last of their remaining testosterone will only fuck them up more and make them a dependent on the state or of another person. And most won't even pass/be attractive at all so they won't attract a male provider. So 90% will just create a greater burden on the state.

>i countered
no you did not and no you do not fit the criteria of drop out because you worked and paid taxes unless your "independant wealth" was gained illegally, at which point i would just assume youre a LARPfag being obtuse for fun.

I don't think that's Sarina, I would recognize her fake balloon tits

They should be encouraged to join one of the branches of the armed forces

>females
>productive

oh its her, i found the source video some place

>encouraged to transition so that they can become productive members of society?
what the fuck world do you live in?

Stop ducking my questions.

Where is your proof and statistics that I'm an outlier and explain how you're going to impose your will on me and other "outcasts" today?

nice pulling all of that shit out of your ass but the reality is that hrt and srs is not free and requires work to obtain. wether you personally would fuck them is irrelevant because someone will, and thats one less man that also works being stressed from lack of sex.

only the ugliest/fattest mofos are incels or basement dwellers
why would we want fat ugly smelly dudes with wigs around

>canada
>military

stop making shit up thinking you cant be read. i made the mistake of skimming your post once, but after a quick second glance it is clear you are a LARP stirring shit up. change IP and try again

>male drops outs
>working for any reason
your entire thread is retarded. why would encouraging them to transition give them any motivation?

Who is this? Where can I find more?

Just like real women then

Hilarious you still can't answer my questions and back up your bullshit.

If you're correct then it should be piss easy to explain how I'm wrong, prove your assertions.

If you can't do that then you can't expect anyone ITT to take you seriously

you underestimate the power of encouragement to be different

your question is stupid because it has no base to stand on

>you are a dropout from society
>you independantly gained wealth

choose one or stop LARPing

what is the name bc i’m not signing up for exhentai and it’s bullshit

I'm not feeling that generous.

you faggot

post it pls

traps can be cute but have an incredibly short shelf life, short then women even.

You're attacking me as an individual instead of my ideas.

I went to university and in the 2000's made a product that did quite well and then reinvested that money into a similar business in the same field that did incredibly well.

Because of my political views, I was blackballed from the community I was in around 2012 and became full hermit and Sup Forums browser and realised that individual liberties are the most important human concept and if I didn't have hard power in terms of my wealth authoritarians like the SJW who wanted to destroy me in tech for my politics.

That's the most i'm willing to say without doxxing myself.

Now, answer my questions. How are you going to force people like me to "be useful to society" and where do you propose to derive the power to do this?

You are no better than the SJWs.

im pretty sure the way you age varies person to person. the wall for women is almost unanimously agreed on to be 30. the mtf in the OP is 29, but i see no signs of the wall

You've still yet to explain how putting some men on estrogen and chopping their dicks off benefits society.

>strawman: post

>i went to uni
...and so you are not qualified to speak for dropouts of society. thanks for playing sweetie

well all of them dont have to get chopped, but it benefits society because these people work, nuff said

>encouraged to transition so that they can become productive members of society?
Yes.

because some of them become hot little fuck toys for men while bringing women down a notch.

Only productive tranny is a dead tranny

What work is there for a tranny other than prostitute or camwhore?

By productive do you mean I cna fuck their boi pussy and suck their clitty?

THat's essentially what they're doing. Look at all the trannies that seem to be teeming everywhere these days. They're the male drop outs look for a way back in.

>Having sex with mentally ill men

Only good thing is that they eventually kill itselves when they end up looking like that

the Romans did it

Spartans had homosexual relations

You are not Romans. You are just some fat sodomite Amerimutt omega males

jobs that require the thinking power of a man but not the strength. also it seems you dislike sex workers, but being a porn starlette is a legit option for those that qualify.

In the waning years of their empire where bread, circuses, and hedonism were the norms.
Like I said: degeneracy

>jobs that require the thinking power of a man but not the strength
So basically jobs a normal, not mentally ill and chemically mutilated man is perfectly capable of doing

>but being a porn starlette is a legit option for those that qualify.
There are easier ways to develop a drug addiction you know.

Being anti-trap is being anti-evolution is paving one's own extinction.

Hot, post more

Kill yourself mentally ill sodomite

assblasted roastie plz go

No they should off themselves. I think its silly to assume they would make hot traps. If they would they probably would have already transitioned. You will just end up with a bunch of ugly hairy fat smelly trap basement dwellers.

>denial stage:
>anger

Ugly mentally ill weeaboo sodomite kys

its probably a low % that will make hot traps

but thats still better then the nothing they are

Sarina Valentina

Sarina used to look good but that face is busted now from the all the plastic surgery.

>they should just kts

you do realize funerals and tomb stones cost money right? alot at that, but then again you seen what you wanted to see in the OP, not what was written, so you arent worried about society, just parroting talking point that are baseless at best.

Funerals and tombstones are a one time cost, supporting these NEETS until they die naturally, prolonged by medicine, is more expensive.

Show comparison.

Not an argument
>Actually attempting to imply there are women on 4chinz

No I really think they should kts. You don't need tomb stones, mass graves, or something eco friendly that recycles them. Traps are terrible and cringy at many levels. Even if you are degenerate and want one to fuck you, they are so try hard that it's a turn off. Think of the work that goes into making a dude look like that.

>you do realize funerals and tomb stones cost money right?
Yes. Thankfully, cremation is cheap in comparison

>encouraged to transition so that they can become productive members
Hol up. Are you saying that transwomen are productive? They aren't. Not even ciswomen are productive. The biggest problem is that men are the only demographic that is productive and the state has already undermined their role in society to the point where there is no longer incentive for them to be productive. Why work when if you did work the government would just take your money and give it to single moms?

>anime cat girl avatar
every fucking time

>one time cost

no lol, but then again i dont expect most people to know what it takes to upkeep a cemetary because who thinks about that very often except people who work that job...also, it is better off for a person to contribute to society, ugly or not, than to not and it's not really up for arguing before you start LARP wars pt.2

Testing pic ITT because it's a junk thread

>babbling about things that are not going to happen
hmm, no

see

>they arent
source

>not even cis women are productive
>saying that like it is a suprise

kek, but more importantly, women are counter productive, since your tax goes to their feminism