If World War Two got to the point where it was just Russia vs nazi Germany who would have won

If World War Two got to the point where it was just Russia vs nazi Germany who would have won
(In this scenario, ignore Britain and USA )

Assuming no strategic bombing and lend-lease from the UK and USA, then it would have likely been a stalemate, the Soviets wouldn't have had the strength to push the Germans back, but the Germans wouldn't have been able to advance deep into the USSR with their low infrastructure.

>Germany is represented by a Chinese soldier model
Wtf

Without the mutts supporting the Soviets (lend lease) the USSR would have been liberated with no problems, then Russia and Germany could have worked together to liberate the USA from its Jewish oligarchy.

Germany was beating the shit out of the Soviet Union until the US started flying in massive amount of arms and supplies.

Does that mean we also don't have to help Italy in NA and Greece? What about Romania and Hungary?
I'm assuming by Nazi Germany you mean including Czechoslovakia and Austria?

LMAO
Who has the bomb?
That's right, WE do! And all your precious Ubermench Nazi scientists couldn't do it! Neither could the nips, the slavs, the frogs or the fags. WE got that shit. And you think some faggots with MP40s and Mosins would have OVERTHROWN the US? Are you literally retarded?

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you're the retarded one
you finished your bomb with the help of german scientists who switched sides.
learn to history idiot

>americucks unironically believe this
i kek at your education system

The German's limited infrastructure was the direct result of allied bombings. Additionally as point out, the USSR without US materiel support would just be bodies. The USSR barely managed to hold off the Germans even with US support and they basically won through pure attrition.

Russia would have won. The country was designed from the ground up to be invasion-resistant and the people have a resilient fighting spirit

Don't you call me american, faggot.

I kek at your abysmal birth rate.

>dominican nigger calling anyone a mutt
This meme only works if a euro uses it

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Nobody
The Soviets couldnt have won on their own but enough to bunker down and keep and endless war of attrition going till both sides decide its the best to make peace in some form.

When the Germans invaded Russia they didn’t know how to operate in those temperatures

Russia wins hands down. Also Russia had the larger army. Battle of atricion and superior knowledge of winter wind

No seriously, you look dumb using the mutt meme. I would stop

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The plan was to get the large cities before the winter hits, but Italy delayed it.
But even if we defeated the Soviet government, we would have had to fight an endless asymmetrical war.

Yes, you are retarded - we had the bomb, the soviets stole the scientists and the plans behind it in berlin you utter moron. The leadership deemed them inhumane to use though - no such problem for the bringer of democracy

A2 Chedaki and BF4 s Chinese? Who makes these images. They're fucking stupid.

Nazis.

Russians needed a lot of aid in fighting back the Nazis. Although there would be persistent and crippling partisan action should they occupy the Soviets.

>dominican republic
>ethnic groups: 72.9% Mixed
(Mulatto and Mestizo)
whatever, le 72.9% face mutt

Germany lost the war in 1941 when they couldn't take Moscow on time. After that it was pretty much over. Germany won wars through blitzkreig it stopped being a war Germany could fight after 1941 and became a war of attrition with the Soviets having more manpower and resources it would have taken one or two years longer but the soviets would have won

I love your upcoming extinction, too gay to fuck your women, huh?

Best analysis. I imagine once things turned asymmetrical - the Germans would've been able to peel off more Soviet Republics and minorities by doing what they did with the Ukes and Croats.

I would like to know what the German strategic plan was had they taken Moscow. Install puppet leader? Level it and head back West?

> extinction
it already happened with you long ago you are the apocalyptic worst case scenario of the white race in the event that it devolves into your mixed race shithole.

Immigrant being used to advertise for Germany. Sounds about right

id rather have less white europeans than a shitload of mutts no thanks

Russia for sure just because they had endless bodies to put on the front line and winter. At Stalingrad they had speakers set up to tone every 7 seconds and a voice between would say in German that every seven seconds a German dies in Stalingrad. They did psychological warfare well. Fucking commies.

>(In this scenario, ignore Britain and USA )
Then you should also ignore Italy, Romania, Hungary, ... Also ignore all troops enlisted from occupied nations.

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Is this bait?
Or are you just fucking a moron?

There won't be any of you left at this rate.

Too gay to have sex with your women and all.

>Russia represented by a stronk man-animal with wide shoulders and good posture
>Germany represented by a Chinese soldier from Battlefield
Checks out

A fucking moron *

Get the fuck out you goddamn retard.

krauts would destroy those commie niggers.

Without those warm lend lease boots, we had to pay for, nobody survived Tha Winter for sure. All four of them have nearly wiped entire continent of Europe out of life.
And then those Kingcobras, piloted by the Spirit of Free Market came down from the skies to shoot the last walking german soldier, and so the east front has been won.

That pic's from Arma 2, he's the ChDKZ (DNR/LNR irl) militiamen.

>we would have had to fight an endless asymmetrical war
Which was the plan all along. Only advance up towards the Ural mountains, then dig in. Settle the land with Wehrbauern, who'd be able to defend themselves.

>not using vss or g36 or p2 and fuck dragunov

Russia

Isn't a severe enough point to undermine the shameful accuracy of Germany being portrayed by a non-European.

Without all the locomotives and trucks provided to move their materiel and soldiers around the Soviets would have been fucked.

Without having to worry about their useless Italian allies being streamrolled by the Brits or being invaded in Western Europe the Germans would have more resources to commit to the East.

No strategic bombing of their production is also a massive boon to Germany.

Essentially the Slavs paid the necessary price in blood and rightfully have a claim to make there, but without all the much more boring shit in the background, such as being provided trucks, food, clothing, etc. They would have lost.

>what is the t34

US needs air superiority over Germany to drop the bomb since Germany has missile tech but the US didn't

A well balanced tank that was used effectual for many years and requires moving resources from all over a massive country to produce in the required numbers to account for attrition and a supply train to maintain enough at the front to make up for the difference in tactical training.

If Britain and the USA weren't involved Germany would have still been fighting a war on two fronts, but I imagine Russian involvement would have come much later.

Please stop... Fucking Jews ruined American education system.

Germany because they are led by a highly charismatic leader and they were ready to fight and die for the fuhrer. Soviets are a bunch of farmers forced to fight for a leader that ordered to shoot their own troops if they were caught retreating.

This. A lot of German forces were stationed in Africa, Scandinavia and on the western front. Recently released documents have also showed that the Soviets received far more help from the US than previously thought, and they would never have been able to hold Moscow without foreign aid.

The Germans would have obliterated the Soviets without much trouble, like they had been doing up until that point. Even when the tide turned, the Germans inflicted massively disproportionate casualties on the Soviets, despite being vastly outnumbered in almost every battle.

As much as it sucks, sometimes quantity just beats quality.

Germany, based on technological superiority and use of combat drugs.
They would have surrounded and siege major west cities and then bomb the Siberian bound reinforcement routes by winter.

If you have no trains or trucks to more your quantity to the right place at the right time it really is of no use to you.

Makes me want to shed a tear.

One mistake that costed Germany the war was not continuing to Moscow, instead they turned south towards Ukraine.

Damn, the mutt meme IS real

If anything the Japs were a whole more brave then the Germans

Russia with 100% certainty.

The land lease helped, but both murricans and the germans don't understand that supplies were secondary to the soviets. The germans would cut off supplies, and the soldiers would only be sent ammo. It was a sick war. Germans really didn't work on pacifying the population, and the population resisted. Initially, people welcomed the germans, but they behaved worse than niggers. By 1943 it was completely over militarily too. US has issues in Iraq, and we are supposedly "nice" to the people. The germans didn't even pretend. It was a guaranteed slaughter. The germans weren't even that much more advanced militarily, and all this bullshit with throwing the bodies at the enemy is bs. You couldn't win an encounter with bodies against the machine guns. The germans lost militarily too. The bulk of body count was from the start of the war and the civilians. The germans are lucky there was Stalin. Without him, the russians would have genocided the entire Germany after entering it. Only totalitarian state could force the soldiers not to wipe out all the civilians after they saw what the germans did in Russia. The Germany exists today because Stalin wanted workers for the East Germany, and didn't allow genocide that would have happened had Russia been anything close to the democracy.

are you not aware that ukraine is west from Moscow or just retarded?

It is generally South-West with parts of it being directly south of Moscow?

You make Americans look bad.

Go sit in the corner.

This. American trucks made the backbone of Soviet logistics. Without them they couldn't compete in a strategic level.

When you add in the resources drained by an air war, Germany would have won hands down.

didn't russia win?

really?

what's lend-lease?

how did the US help the soviets?

Pretty much this. Neither the UK or the USSR could have sustained themselves without material support from the USA.

Sad desu.

Embarrassed I have to share this flag with limp dick faggots like you.

So the plan is march forward hoping that armies all around just ignore you there right? Like in middle ages right?

Your cunt nation selling arms and resources to commies long before officially joining the war.

>(In this scenario, ignore Britain and USA )

learn to read

USSR had greater long term industrial capacity. Germans were fighting for liedensraum the Soviets were fighting for survival. No doubt the USSR would win.

what? when?
inb4 burger
i'm not, just here to visit family

Germany would have easily won.
Hitler's original plan was to advance into the Caucasus and seize that valuable choking point cutting the USSR off from its resources. The Chechens were all in on Hitler's side.

This would have arrested the advance of Bolshevism and then the Reich would have recruited the masses if the former Red Army to consolidate the East while Hitler turned his attention back to the (((Anglos))) to give them the BTFO they deserve for being jew-stooges and to utterly wipe (((London))) off thr map.

America would have no chance of intervening over the Atlantic with England Nazified.

Not enough information for me to make an intelligent comment.

>Is this post Anschluss? The extra manpower is important.
>Is Czechoslovakia kill? Lol @ blitzing Ukraine without those Skoda factories.
> Is this pre or post Winter War? The Soviet armies were a joke before then.
>No UK blockade? If so, consider the MASSIVE industrial output boost this would ensue for Adolph-bro
>Does Stalin anticipate the German assault? He didn't when they were allies, and it helped massively with the initial German onslaught.

>If World War Two got to the point where it was just Russia vs nazi Germany who would have won
>(In this scenario, ignore Britain and USA )

Germans if there is no foreign aid to the Soviet Union. Without foreign assistance the Soviet war machine wouldn't have gotten rolling and they wouldn't have had the arms to repel the German assault.

If the Lend Lease program is enacted and the Soviet military is built up then my money is on the Soviets since they had numbers and a more defensible position due to the Russian winters and the permafrost which turns the whole country into a mudpit in the summer.

russia

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Also since France capitulated virtually without a fight, Hitler had a net return of more manpower and the entire French industrial apparatus that he could aim towards the Soviets. Hard to say whether the UK bombing campaign and occupational costs would off-set this though. The french economy was kinda trash and without coal from Brazil via British blockade most of them were running at decimated productivity.

It is well known that Hitler diverted panzers to the Ukraine when the army group there ran into trouble for a short time. By the time they got back on track for Moscow the Soviets had used the time to build up defenses and then there were further delays associated with the rasputitsa.

It takes Juan to know Juan

no foreign aid ever actually made it to the front, land lease is a meme
soviets sustained themselves with their own + plus captured german stuff, and only that

The US, Canada, and the UK provided massive amounts of clothing, ammunition, locomotives, trucks, etc to the USSR during the war.

Western aid points of merit:
>Studebaker trucks
>Half tracks
>P39 Airacobra, known affectionately as "Dear Little Cobra"
>White paint
Western aid points of betrayal:
>outdated US airplanes and refurbished old Spitfires that were severely outperformed by both Soviet and German planes already at the front
>The fucking M3 tank, known as the "grave of the 7 brothers", because, depending on the variant, you could fit 6 to 7 men inside and the thing could be knocked out by anything on the battlefield, unironically
>basically everything that cluttered western warehouses and was useless

That's debatable.

This is the correct answer. Without lend lease, Soviet Union wouldn't be mobile enough to execute the offensives they did from 1943 and on.

im going to say russia. while its easy to think it was a stalemate russia played it cool and took the path of least resistance. germany was stuck sending forces in 3 directions and russia wasnt trying

until some words were said and they demanded satisfaction ... from the german women. the men couldnt stop it and the americans couldnt either. the brits didnt even try to send bombers. every one else had the excuse to jump on russia and they didnt. as soon as germany surrendered it was suppose to be over and russia decided fuck it rape em because some tards mouthed off. nobody stopped it. why? they knew russia would actually win

this is interesting, can i see some sources if you don't mind?

>he still doesn't know about artificial wombs

Source?
Shit is better than nothing.

Many first-hand witnesses throughout history can state that russia is an infinite mass of recourses pouring at you thus making the war effort obsolete. The thing to keep in mind is that the germans had come very far in their technological development. The germans were on the edge of inventions such as the atomic bomb and the jet plane which could mean that the germans simply would have rolled over the russian due being far more advanced in warfare. At least this would make the war a much fairer one.

It doesn't exist.

>source
I guess endless documentaries, documentation, eye witness acounts of survivors from both german and soviet side
I'm not about to look it up on mobile now

Probably would have been a stalemate or dragged on WW1 style until someone broke. The germans could never produce as many tanks or weapons as the soviets even without allied bombings but the soviets were only able to launch offensives because of lend lease supplies.

Read a fucking book. Christ.

Russians outnumbered all the other allies 4:1 by the end of the war, so most likely Russia

*jewish scientists

>non-white attempting to participate

that's cute. like a puppy that barks and growls at the older dogs