How dare Europeans create their own defense structures?

EU efforts at deeper military integration have not delivered increased military capability for the United States or for NATO. Instead, they compete with NATO for scarce European defense resources.
>have not delivered increased military capability for the United States/NATO
>let that sink in
>no increased capability FOR THE US/Israel

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theguardian.com/politics/2016/may/27/is-there-a-secret-plan-to-create-an-eu-army
telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9750801/David-Cameron-we-will-never-join-a-European-army.html
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enjoy your one world order army lmao

Lol now europoors can go on crusades to die for Israel too!

>enjoy your one world order army lmao
Yes, how DARE the EU want to create its own defense and then maybe choose not to send soldiers to die for American wars? How DARE they?

>enjoy your one world order army lmao
Okay

You absolutely cretinous retards, do you really think the EU army is going to be used for protection of the European people and borders? Wrong, it will be used exclusively for oppressing and intimidating the remaining member states so they don't leave.

You should be both gassed, i think there is a canister of zyclon b with your name on it still waiting for you in Auschwitz.

>one more step towards the united states of europe

I don’t think lice are the problem.

>uk "leaves"
>we better build a army quick before they actually leave
You're not going anywhere, bongs.

fuck off, there is no need for an EU army

Soon

>post yfw WWIII will once again see the US and her allies helping to liberate Europe, this time from an oppressive, tyrannical EU

Reminder: Multi Cultist armies are ineffective,weak and badly organised due to a wide variety of languages,cultural beliefs,religious beliefs and tactical styles as some armies are built for sheer numbers, others for strict defensive and others for fast smaller mobile forces etc. Not to mention racial tribalism(this applies for the degenerate weakened western world) which is inbuilt for all humans.

Its the main reason the Austro-Hungarian army failed so spectacularly and why the Roman Empire fell due to reliance on foreigners rather than domestic professional defenders.
The only one world order worth living under is a 100% European one and that means the extermination or enslavement of the 6.7bn other humans on this planet.

there will be in a year or two when trump pulls us out of Europe

all that is fine, but show your flag

the EU is not a nation state is does not need an army..it's a soviet-style bureaucratic nightmare that will end rather soon.

>due to a wide variety of languages

21st century Europe understands English

UK has literally the only non shit army in Europe - woulden't be very hard to leave

So what? So they can federalize the EU by force? So they can back up their economics with an army to subjugate every state which disagrees with the EU agenda? Fuck of Germany.

Your politicians and leaders seem completely unwilling to defend any kind of European borders or culture, honest question here, why do you think giving them an army will somehow make them more interested in defending those things?

french army isn't too bad either..the rest is shit

Maybe the EU states should federalize first. Oh wait, that would never happen.

Why didn't Euro countries have their own armies? We all, the UK included have lived under the US' defensive umbrella for decades. This won't be about increasing military spending as euro nations cannot afford to. It is a rebranding to emstrongen the EU institutionally.
I don't personally oppose European defensive cooperation but not at a whim to the EU.

Lads...

>How dare Europeans create their own defense

It's a superstate army.

Bureaucrats in the EU now have a private military arm. We barely get to know who these people are, let alone be involved in their election. There's a parasitical worm growing over top of nation states claiming to rule them all, and now it has footsoldiers.

I've noticed how kikes, amerigoys and their dogs, like baltshits and poleshits, are screeching against strong Europe, and also EU and Russia getting close or even just being on good terms. Especially here it's all kikes, shilling for USA, for big war with Russia, calling Europeans impotent etc. The amerigoblin is afraid his unipolar world is crumbling.

No it doesn't. Have you been to Italy? Literally nobody speaks English. Have you heard Dutch people speak English? It's incomprehensible at best. Language will be a barrier.

So EU agrees to speak english and drive on the right, and ban online porn and hate speech correct?

A grand alliance of nationalist European countries would be the best future.

the EU needs an army to enforce its BS on the people living on this continent.

Stop conflaiting the EU with the rest of Europe, not every European state is part of your oligarchy.

that's some loud screeching for a non-country

Well it is a bad idea. I don't trust a Fin to guard my borders and I m sure he doesn't trust me either. Also I m sure that Euroarmy™ will be used to opress dissenters of the european project.

that army would only be representing about 33% more people than the US army does. less people than India and China.

#EUWOKE

youtube.com/watch?v=Jo_-KoBiBG0

Will EU Army invade Swissland?

that army would represent the european commission and nobody else

youtube.com/watch?v=fFrcl6VGrDQ

Honestly, we are too far behind in the road to hell. Atleast we are getting carriers and still have our vanguard class subs.

>2.07 mb PNG

Da fuq is that file so big?

eternal Kr*ut up to his old tricks I see

Are you the same German that keeps saying Germany will not share its nuclear fusion technology?

are you 11yo?

Read about lossless compression.

Nah they will just send in the French division to put down the last German resistance to replacement.

Germans. Fucking us over once again.

Fuck an EU army, it's just the EU's way of making each member nation it's bitch.

And who controls that army? The same EU bureaucrats who were never elected by any European voters and have been working against the best interests of every European? This army would only give them more power to continue destroying you from the inside.

you are already getting submarines, be happy with it..Fuck the Eu btw

Germans are fucking retarded. Every few years they chimp out about not wanting NATO(US) forces in their country, every few decades American politician arises who wants out from Germany and the very same people go "OH YOU WANT TO SELL US TO RUSSIANS YOU TRAITOR!! REE" on him.

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I'm just asking if OP is the same guy that posts on how Germany won't share its fusion technology, he sounds the same.

PNG is not a lossy format, so pixels can add up quickly.

How does a county not have it's own military? I know we put a shit ton of money into our defense while worshipping soldiers. I don't expect other countries to do the same but to not have a military can't be true.

There is no way an EU army will be used for actual defense of Europeans or anything positive outside of Europe.

Funding cuts and outdated equipment.

You mean the kike overlords of the EU

I can imagine it being used to defend Europeans, but I also feel like it could be used as a way to threaten countries who don't conform to what the EU wants. I.e. a certain Eastern European country who doesn't feel compelled to take in refugees.

It will be used to defend shitskin migrants from ethnic Europeans

Remember when the "EU army" was called a conspiracy theory?

theguardian.com/politics/2016/may/27/is-there-a-secret-plan-to-create-an-eu-army

> All these impotent britbongs getting pissy and kicking shit up about the rest of us making a proud strong and unified EU Army.
Well guess what Mohamed you left the Union, you don’t have any more say or bullshit vetoes for what we do with laws or OUR Army.
All these really stems from jealousy. Jealousy of our growing and strengthening modern defence forces while you’re proud Empire that used to rule the waves has crumbled into the Islamic caliphate with a suitably arab tier army.

No it doesn't and why would it have English at all considering Britain is leaving the EU next year?

The Germans will want German as the main language. The French will want French etc.

I watched a documentary on the British deployment to Estonia to counter Russian aggression and how hard it is to work together due to separate language,military ideas and tactical style. The Estonians are defensive minded and very small(6700 regular troops with 15,000 civilian militia) using their forests due to their small landmass and vulnerabilities with one road leading from Kalinigrad enclave(where Russian has bolstered its army numbers) straight to their capital city not including the fact 55 Russian warships are within 2 hours of the Estonian waters. Whereas Britain is now smaller military focused due to budget cuts and army reforms as part of "Army 2020" but more mobile with a focus on mechanized troops assisted by drone and air support think hit and run attacks rather than holding the line. Perfect for attacking any potential Russian invasion along the main road but even our own generals have said due to this massive reform and budget cuts that our armed forces should be defensive only and stay at home to fight off a naval and air invasion.

Can you imagine 27 EU nations trying this? You need a budget, a single language, a tactical style, command structure, deployment locations(which requires special permissions), military doctrine and vehicle system that is uniform to ALL nations otherwise it'll be a mess like the Wehrmacht became in mid WW2 using 400 different types of vehicle with different parts and sizes instead of a one size fits all doctrine the allies and soviets used.
Plus how many would take part or even want this? A nations military is a sign of the nations sovereignty and historically a sign of national pride.

>emstrongen
strengthen?

>deeper military integration
It is just codeword for losing sovereignty.
Fuck off, Hans.

Moron.
This guy really nails the point here.

Remember when the Remain campaign including David Cameron were saying "There will never be an EU army" to try and dispute the Leave campaigns argument about the EU wanting to remove national sovereignty and armies?
Bet you won't see the (((media))) remembering that in their articles.
Here's some articles:

telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9750801/David-Cameron-we-will-never-join-a-European-army.html

politico.eu/article/waging-war-on-the-myth-of-an-eu-army-referendum-britain-brexit-debate/

independent.co.uk/voices/if-you-re-voting-for-brexit-because-you-think-british-troops-will-be-called-up-to-an-eu-army-you-ve-a7024221.html

More standardization for the sake of economies of scale would be a good idea, but a common army can fuck right off

>proud and strong
it'd be like trying to make a snowman out of runny shit. eu being shit is why people dont like nato. america is sick of protecting you backboneless plebs.

You retard. Do you think that the EU army is gonna be used to benefit Europe as we know it?
Wrong. Its gonna be a tool to keep countries in check.
The hungarians learned it the hard way 62 years ago.

It literally went from conspiracy theory to political certainty in less than a year

Remember when Leave and Farage claimed the money you'd save would be used to fund the NHS?

lüüüüüüüüüüüül

>proud and strong
Only 2 members(France and Germany) are functional. Both are plagued by internal racial,political,cultural and religious problems.
The southern members are in bailout mode
One of the northern members is leaving
The eastern members are in open revolt with hard borders set up including military patrols and refusing to accept EU rulings and the EU's anti white stance.
Nationalist parties are rising rapidly in reaction to the anti white agenda in play.

The EU is an experiment on its final legs.

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>You should be both gassed, i think there is a canister of zyclon b with your name on it still waiting for you in Auschwitz.
Holocaust confirmed!

There will not be a need for NATO if the USA and EU merge into some monstrous Atlantic Union. What nation would be able to resist annexation at that point?

Farage was never part of the campaign actually. He was swept aside. Get your facts right. It was led by Michael Gove and Boris Johnson.

Also that promise doesn't even say "Lets fund the £350mn into the NHS" It implies quite clearly some of it can go to the NHS.

Proper wording would have been "Lets fund our NHS with it instead" to come to the conclusion its all going to it.

No, but I remember a lot of stupid people with terrible reading skills struggling to understand the slogan on the bus correctly.

Infact, I'm replying to one right now.

Would, is different from could. "lets fund our NHS" is just one of the ways the money could be used, the main way sure...but just one of many ways. Only idiots thought that all the money would be going to the NHS, same with people that can't grasp the slogan.

>Get your facts right

Aaaaaaakward.

Do you honestly think that FFL troopers are gonna take orders from an overweight german Junker, think again.

He wasn't part of the campaign at all.
That's just him saying money spent on the EU is better spent on British interests.

>(((europeans)))

This JewU army will be used to put down any european nazi rebellions. Id never ever fight for your cuck union fag

We all know everything in the EU is controlled by Germany and no one wants you to chimpout again.

> fighting in an army that defends a continent of fat non-breeding leftist faggots and their gay values
> EU leaders are all cucks
> gazillion of different languages in this multi-culti army
> motivation to fight for this shit = 0
> but lets take the money

> war with ruski breaks out
> incredibly high surrender rate
> EU army turns out to be worse than french army 1941

ignorant Sup Forumstards will sperg about it, but it is necessary, logical and desired.
>inb4 V4
Poland wants it even more than Germany.

Time to remove Ami and stand on our own feet.

Exactly this. This is what they are referring to. The anti white elite know there is a growing army of young white men and women angry at being told they are racist and privileged for being European.

The recent campaigns against white interests on Jewtube and social media confirm this aswell as anti white purges of nationalists in the military and police continent wide under the guise of them being "far right terrorists".

Sure. I am going to miss yours so fucking much, sweetie :^)

Its always a fucking kraut

Fuck off, good goy.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Poland

It's always an american dog from butthurt belt.

>Germans get the other Europeans to do their fighting for them

Wow, if you're not conquering other nations through debt financing, you're demanding that they contribute to your security and deal with dissent(where have I seen this before?) If you didn't have german colors, I'd assume you were an Israeli.

You have a military whose jets can't be maintained, whose infantry can't pass pft and is overweight, and an arms industry who sells rifles that melt.

Your officer corps is a joke, and you haven't participated in a war in any significant capacity in over 40 years, and you expect that European nations want to integrate with you?

Give me a fucking break.

> tactical styles as some armies are built for sheer numbers, others for strict defensive and others for fast smaller mobile forces etc. Not to mention racial tribalism(this applies for the degenerate weakened western world) which is inbuilt for all humans.
A combined army would actually counter that, as it standardizes those things. Do you think NATO is ineffective as well, because it consists of multiple armies as well?

>Remember when the Remain campaign including David Cameron were saying "There will never be an EU army"
Yeah, because Britain would've vetoed that. But now, that the strongest voice against one is gone, it will happen. Cause and effect, m8.

>HOW DARE THEY NOT WANTING TO BE AMERICAN BITCHES

fuck you
im against your personal cucked eu army.

Time to bring back Latin

You already gave up your sovereignty with Euro and Schengen. Why do you whine now?

A great question he is afraid to answer

Every time germany has raised an army it ended up a disaster

WTF. We Reich now.

Bad for europe, but like always, anericans shouldnt worry

So it will be bunch of eastern europeans who go in it for the shekels....well i dont mind but having foreigners as most of your army will be abad idea since their loialty will lie with a certain part of the EU.
Why do i thinbk it will be predominantly eastern eurupean?Because pay will be alot better than in our amies but not enough to attract the pussyfied western cuck so you will basically give weapons to a bunch of people who hate you and are there just to send money home.
This will end badly 100%