This is such a disgusting betrayal of his supporters and America as a whole. Cucking on anything immigration related is unacceptable and inexcusable. He's being so disingenuous about it too, by constantly wording it like "There'll be no DACA if there's no wall & border security". Huh? The Wall and other basic border & immigration security measures were NEVER conditional on conceding DACA.
To make things worse, he unironically tweeted the other day that he hoped these "dreamers" would eventually vote Republican because of MUH TAX CUTS.
Thanks I needed that. Soros gaslighting is really taking a toll on me. MAGA
Jaxson Phillips
No its not he has said this 100x times, try and blackpill someone else.
Daniel Morris
Incredible. Trump cucks on a major fucking issue and when people are rightfully pissed off about it, you can't create a thread to vent or ask others what they think without being an apparent Soros shill.
Gavin Taylor
How delusional must you be at this point? What more does he have to say to drill it through your brain that he's completely on board with DACA now? When will the excuses end?
you don't give two shits about the president of the united states you're just trying to stir up dissent and doubt among his supporters by cherry picking and misconstruing his words
Levi Cruz
>This is such a disgusting betrayal of his supporters and America as a whole This. Absolutely this.
>rotip: he doesn't actually want it Prove it. He keeps saying it.
Chase Richardson
We want daca but only if we get a 11 billion dollar wall and decreased immigration
Kevin Campbell
>We all want DACA to happen.
Nope.
Nathaniel Rivera
he also said he wants a 11 billion dollar wall accrost the border
lets see if the dems even budge
Charles Roberts
You're an idiot. You don't get the game there? He knows democrats want DACA. Therefore, he is holding it over their heads for the wall. Then when he gets the wall done, he will also be able to claim the DACA as a victory for his campaign.
Hudson Reyes
>We want daca No, "*WE* do not!!!
>but only if we get a 11 billion dollar wall and decreased immigration Not negotiable. I don't want a Wall, especially if I have to pay for it. He said Mexico would pay. Another lie. I woudl rather give Americans jobs by hiring tons more Border Security patrol than a stupid wall.
Tump needs to end DACA now and stop dicking around.
Samuel Carter
this is true
Once trump is gone you can bet DACA will be the first thing democrats do
Ryder King
>he also said he wants a 11 billion dollar wall accrost the border I thought he said throughout his entire campaign and ever after his inauguration, that Mexico would pay for the wall? Why should I pay for it?
Joseph Myers
DACA is inevitable at this point if trump is gone is 3 years and a dem is in its gonna happen bro
Lincoln Cruz
>Then when he gets the wall done, he will also be able to claim the DACA as a victory for his campaign. I don't understand your reasoning. DACA will never be a victory if he approves it. The only way DACA will be a victory is to end it now. The wall has nothing to do with DACA, they are two separate issues. And us paying for the wall, $11 billion, is another loss to the American public. He assured us that Mexico would pay for it. He is a liar. Face it.
Luis Nguyen
>doesn't understand how legislation works.
Zachary Lewis
>DACA is inevitable at this point Bull crap. Nothing is inevitable. Obama created DACA on his own with a pen. It is supposedly unconstitutional, yet everyone is walking around thinking there is nothing they can do. Trump could end it anytime with a swipe of a pen. It was not passed through Congress and the American people did not vote for DACA.
Nicholas Gomez
>we all want DACA to happen No... why would you even say that?
>Bannon betrays him >"I guess the nationalist thing wasn't a good idea after all" >becomes George Bush 2.0 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Nicholas Barnes
The wall has everything to do with DACA. FFS, he just gave you the gameplan last week in a tweet. "Want DACA? Give the wall." It's like morons don't understand that a businessman president knows how to negotiate. The "we all want DACA" is the icing on the cake. If democrats don't negotiate it, it's their fault for the failure. If they do negotiate, he can claim it as another victory to appeal to hispanics and latinos.
Jace Long
The Democrats will never agree to the wall, so DACA is dead.
Josiah Adams
See: It's like clockwork. The sheer amount of delusion when one dares point out that Trump is cucking on a major issue is incredible. Automatic response: "you're a shill trying to stir up dissent!". The only one stirring up dissent is Trump by betraying his voters on a major, important issue that will further shift demographics and turn states blue. I'd be sucking Trump's dick if he came through on every highly important immigration promise he made to get elected, including the real, original Muslim ban - not the pussified one he put forth & can barely get through. I'd rather he concede something relatively meaningless to the dems like the Paris Climate deal, rather than cucking on a demographic shifting promise like DACA.
Noah Ortiz
kek, Ivanka and Jared want it. That's good enough for Trump. You retards are really gonna miss Bannon.
Joshua Cooper
>dangles DACA in front of dem voters >demands wall first, then promises to look at DACA >wall gets funded, starts to go up >trump rewrites DACA as he sees fit, becoming DACA in name only, stealing the popular 'dreamer' tag from libtards >liberals get butthurt and vote again "trumps" DACA, generating horrible PR with legal immigrants.
Hudson Harris
It’s a perfectly fine trade off. 200k or so green cards in exchange for states to give up illegals and getting the border wall. That’s how legislation works
Daniel Baker
Clever.
the dims and neocons have been screaming about these 'noble dreamers' for months. All the while, screaming about "FUCK THE WALL".
Trump gives them a choice:
1) support the wall to save dreamers, and try to explain the wall to your spic supporters
or--
2) Say no to the wall, and dreamers start getting deported, and now you can explain to your spic supporters why the dreamers are gone.
lulz
Ryder Miller
Get off on Sup Forums for 5 minutes and look at the fact that it's being reported he wants 18 billion for the wall. The two go hand in hand. AKA NEGOTIATION
Sebastian Taylor
>Ivanka and Jared want it. Exactly. It has always been about what Javanka wants. They are commie-globalists pushing that agenda and Trump is allowing it. He has thrown his base away and is kowtowing to Javanka.
David Morris
>Getting upset when a Civic Nationalist does something for people who did nothing wrong. Go outside you dumb faggot.
I can see a clause put in about 'no criminal activities, or must speak english, or must possess a HS diploma."
that would leave about 3k 'dreamers'.
Kevin James
But it was never about negotiation. Trump PROMISED to end DACA on day 1. He also promised a Wall that Mexico would pay for. Now he wants a wall that US taxpayers will pay for plus he will allow DACA. That is a totally royal middle finger to his base.
Charles Rodriguez
Neocons are fucking worthless we should just pass the fucking wall through just like with taxes since we have a tiny majority in the senate but nope....
Isaiah Turner
this is demoralization right here, democrats will always push immigration 100 times harder than GOP who at least tries to resist it
Gabriel Perry
>AKA NEGOTIATION There should be NO negotiation. That was not part of the deal when we elected him.
Charles Phillips
So what's the point you stupid faggot, you're just going to cry to us on here? Fucking kill yourself for being such a beta whiny little bitch
This is a false dichotomy. He does NOT have to concede DACA based on various conditions. This is disingenuous as hell and it's just another bullshit defense of the indefensible. >MUH 4D CHESS! GENIUS TRUMP!
Kevin Campbell
awwww, I hurt Javanka's feelings. Poor little commies.
Asher Garcia
Shut the fuck up, retard. Adults are speaking.
Angel Hill
Fuck that.
If anything those DACA brats are some of the absolute worst scum to ever enter the USA's borders.
Vermin.
James Roberts
>i'll sleep in this bed full of shit & piss as long as you give me some febreeze and a nose plug
Nathan Lee
>Trump PROMISED to end DACA on day 1 That's a lie.
And in one way or another, Mexico will pay for the wall. Watch what happens now that congress critters are starting to realize that they don't have to suck media cock.
Josiah Lewis
Trump is a failure. He could end DACA RIGHT NOW if he wanted to, but he won't. Trump is proving to us beyond a doubt that he's just another worthless boomer neocon Israel dicksucker
Landon Sanchez
Claiming a shit policy like DACA as a win is incredibly two faced and disingenuous to the platform he ran on.
>implying democrats will reclaim power once Trump leaves
Found the actual shill.
Asher Edwards
>He does NOT have to concede DACA based on various conditions.
Weird thing is.....he hasn't.
Let me know when he SIGNS a law. Until then, I'll giggle as he plays politics as the dims fret and gnash teeth, and ICE deports spics.
Levi Watson
It never was the media; it's the big jew owned and controlled foundations with Soros sitting on top of the heap paying out campaign contributions to all those shit weasels in congress.
Treason by the elected representatives, actively destroying their own nation.
I pray for a massive all out nuclear war to end this madness.
Noah Williams
How delusional are you? What more does he have to say over these past couple of weeks, to make it clear that he's going straight down that path?
Brody Roberts
>bait you do now, else you‘re a shill >his base are you not part of it? >shill you voted for him, suck up to it.
btw, pic related will collect our road toll soon
Lucas Walker
Yeah, worked perfectly for Reagan.
John Cruz
>How delusional are you? What more does he have to say over these past couple of weeks, to make it clear that he's going straight down that path?
Hmm.....you do know that congress passes laws, right? Changing the immigration law is something congress should deal with. I'm not sure if you're actually retarded, or just pretending.
Jeremiah Collins
if he granted permanent residency status (NOT citizenship) to Dreamers, that would be a fine price to pay for the wall and e-verify.
He can't make law without Congress agreeing, and Congress won't agree to the wall and e-verify without SOMETHING in exchange. Permanent residency for Dreamers is fine. they won't be able to do any chain migration or vote, and there just aren't very many of them compared to the DROVES of illegals who would leave the country if e-verify were rolled out nationwide.
Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. E-verify would be such a big win that the Dreamers wouldn't even rate by comparison. There are less than a million Dreamers and there are probably TWENTY MILLION illegals. E-verify will send MILLIONS of illegals out of the country. It is worth it.
Isaac Thompson
Muh 4d chess
Matthew Sullivan
I think RR honestly thought it would.
But it's a good example of how the government fucks up literally everything. And promises aren't usually worth shit.
Nathaniel Harris
Fact is the majority of Americans do support DACA only basement dwelling virgins get irked by the prospect of 19 year old Manuel graduating college and having a family one day.
Noah Morris
E-verify would be a HUGE boon.
Plus, I can see many states using E-verify to check against their voter rolls.......just sayin'.
Mason Lee
>welcome to 2018, apparently a restructuring of our congress is this year >better save our asses
Andrew Cooper
Wrong.
The media supports 20 year old spic criminals, most americans do not.
You shouldn't believe those biased, false polls user. If they were ever accurate, the Dims would have both houses of congress, and the WH right now.
Asher Cruz
Tired of winning yet?
Hudson Thompson
there is no majority support from legal citizens. there are more mexicans in america than blacks. but believe what you want nigger . southern cai is ablaze and nobodies making homes for beaners for free
i believe the fires will continue and follow the mexicans
Angel Brooks
thank you Moelenbeck
Andrew Garcia
>biased, false polls >polls are false if they don't conform to my views. Funny thing is the polls said Hillary would win nationwide and she did via the popular vote.
Jackson Murphy
WTF it was Her Turn!
Dreamers are based. The Wall is based. Fuck off shill.
Samuel Stewart
DACA isn't a law you monkey, Obongo created it as an executive order and Trump would be well within his bounds to end DACA with an executive order. You argue "well we don't want to be authoritarian, let congress handle it :^)" which is stupid because the precedent for making law with executive orders is already well established and won't change regardless of what Trump does. Fight fire with fire, Obama era EO with another EO. You're just being willfully ignorant and claiming Trump's angle is to be le good guy president not abusing his power, which is not his real reason for letting DACA slide. He is letting it slide because he's cucking out for political points at our expense.
Elijah Perez
Why the fuck do we need to make a deal in order to get basic border security for our country? Isn't that the first job of a government? I don't appreciate this bullshit at all and I will not vote Trump ever again if there's any kind of amnesty.
Jack Diaz
Or... he'll keep saying he'll allow some parts of DACA if he gets the wall, and then later down the line he'll give up the wall as well. Just wait and see cuck.
Andrew Brooks
Alright, so what if Dems "concede" and give the OK on the spending bill. The wall hasn't even begun serious consideration. We have meme prototypes, but we still need surveyors, geographers, material suppliers, WORKERS, engineers, lawyers, and architects. This is a process that could take YEARS and there has not even been a serious effort to even begin the initial planning yet.
Trump is the first person to ever even float the idea of a border wall on this scale and it doesn't even have mainstream acceptance. No one in the current government even wants this wall besides him. Even if we were to somehow get this deal and start planning, what could possibly be done in
Julian Sullivan
>he doesn't actually want it Then he should've ended DACA on day 1 like he said he would during the campaign. He's at best a cucky and senile Boomerfag, at worst he's a kike shill. Either way, fuck Trump, he blew it. He won't get re-elected because he's not doing anything substantial to stem the tide of invaders and remove the ones already here. His retardation and the treachery of the neoliberal GOPe is going to ensure 2018 is at best a wash where cuckservative retain their impotent majorities and it worst they'll throw the game to Democrats. We're fucked in 2020, not that it matters. Get prepped to survive the communist crackdown when the Dems take back power, better hope civil war breaks out before then.
Brandon Nguyen
Cohn thinks different, you think wrong.
Julian Lopez
It would require 60 senate votes unfortunately.
Lucas Richardson
>Then he should've ended DACA on day 1 like he said he would during the campaign
Proof? Because I've never heard that from him.
Jonathan Gutierrez
No Daca amnesty, give the ones with real jobs work visas. Close that fucking border ASAP, *including* legal immigration.
Benjamin Morales
60 votes for what?
Josiah Campbell
Check the sources, user. There's a lot of gaslighting going on. This is a big issue, the enemy wants us to be blackpilled and give up.
Bentley Martinez
>That's a lie. Prove it. I watched every rally. He said it.
Oliver Phillips
>It would require 60 senate votes unfortunately. We can't get 60 votes for anything.
>Vote yes to build a statue of Hitler >Vote is still 52-48
60 Votes ain't going to happen on anything.
Grayson Cook
For a major change in our immigration system like ending the diversity lottery.
Jose Morris
>I pray for a massive all out nuclear war to end this madness. Yes, the Earth needs a good cleansing. Too many demons are walking amongst us.
William Bennett
>We can't get 60 votes for anything. Then DACA ends and that's the end of the story.
Christopher Gonzalez
Post the video then faggot.
He never said any such thing.
Jaxson Cooper
Thats my primary reason for voting for him. We are over run with illegals here in TX. This is bullshit
Joseph Rivera
we're being gaslighted by /ptg/ idiots, this is pretty much >we were always at war with Eurasia >Trump always supported amnesty
Carter Powell
>diversity you‘ve already got mutticulti, why need diversity?
Carter Cook
>There's a lot of gaslighting going on This I believe. I hate that I cannot trust anything anymore. It has become very hard to find the truth nowadays.
Owen Hughes
How about following the law? Illegal aliens are illegal. Does that need 60 votes? A wall was approved by congress 10 years ago.
Logan Walker
Exactly.
And that's a great thing.
Meanwhile, Trump will start the wall, using DHS funds.
Hunter Long
No, we don't want DACA at all, there is literally no reason why we need it to have a wall and deportation.
Luis Richardson
Brah Id take the wall for DACA all day.
I'm just pissed that they can only build 380 miles for $18 billion
Jonathan Smith
>you‘ve already got mutticulti Unfortunately.
You don't understand. Our immigration system literally has a diversity lottery that undermines merit immigration and lets any retard from some "underrepresented" country in. Getting rid of that is a repeal and that would require 60 votes.
Leo Reed
Agreed.
However, wait till Trump starts the hard negotiating on the construction costs...that number may drop drastically.
Andrew Barnes
I understand the strategy of using DACA as a political tool, but if he actually grants DACA under any circumstances, he is done. It is hard to build a wall, enforce immigration policy, deport people. It is easy to make random spics legal, and have them eventually vote and breed our country into Mexico, or worse.
Samuel Martin
>You don't understand. Our immigration system literally has a diversity lottery that undermines merit immigration and lets any retard from some "underrepresented" country in. Getting rid of that is a repeal and that would require 60 votes Correct user.
Many here intentionally ignore that. IMO, trying to create distance between Trump, and his voters.
Parker White
Until 2020 and it's passed into law by a democratic congress and president.
Robert Nguyen
>Amnesty for millions of illegals and their offspring >Wall begins planning >5 years laters begins construction >3 years later is scrapped by the new president thanks to all those based DACA voters >No wall, millions of illegal immigrants sounds like a great trade off
Caleb Phillips
lulz
That's funny shit.
Christian Lopez
“We will immediately terminate” DACA
Jaxson Barnes
retard, negociate the costs now: >how much concrete >check home depot if anyone, can you be this darn stupid?
