"Re:Zero" vs "Konosuba"

Which of these is a knockoff of the other? They're very similar and have very similar plots and characters.

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>very similar
Are you literally fucking retarded?

come on now... male characters are complete copies. they even wear the track suit.

One was good and the other was just okay

They are both mistaken for deconstruction of isekai when in reality they're just examples of how to do it well. The genre is so inundated with trash people can't wrap their heads around it when presented with writers who know what they're doing.

Aqua and Kazuma are the only good thing about Konosuba

You could have said male MCs are both nips

>Re:Zero x Konosuba
>Megumin as Emilia
>Emilia as every girl from Konosuba at the same time

They're both isekai fantasies with loser protagonists. The notable similarities end there.

Tracksuit have been a typical 'loser MC' clothing in Japan for quite a time.Similarities ends there.

>time.Similarities ends there
Both NEET, gamers, transported to another world, have to save the female protagonist...

come on now.

Is Aqua thicc or is Emilia just really thin.

Best girls

you have shit taste user. REAL best girls coming through!

Who's the blue haired girl?

How about some specific similarities that don't apply to 99% of isekai novels?

Rem of course.

Aqua has some pretty thicc thighs.

too bad she's dumb as a brick.

That applies to almost every isekai ever.

I fucking hate Subaru.

Same. He's the fucking worst. He makes such retarded decisions every time he's faced with some choice.

Konosuba is very literally a parody of other isekai stories. It takes common isekai tropes and then does funny things with them. That's the definition of parody.

You have your shitty threads, so stay there, Remfags. Don't spread your shitty taste.

The important question here is, are the authors fucking or not?

Konosuba is more a parody of RPGs than isekai itself.

why do you hate Rem? she's literally the kindest of them all and would do anything for her man. Plus she's not a bitch and is also attractive.

Re: Zero is absolutely a deconstruction of Isekai, the problem is that every other Isekai in the last five years is also attempting to deconstruct Isekai.

Both were ok imo.I have fun watching them.

The focus is primarily on character comedy though
And it lampoons RPGs more than isekai

Worst girls

You are actually this retarded.

>wanting smart women.

do u want your kids to be retarded?

>costumeswapping two characters unrelated to each other instead of the two who share the same VA

>Re: Zero is absolutely a deconstruction of Isekai,
How?

>the same VA
Explain.

Well, Megumin and Emilia are both voiced by Rie Takahashi.

Rem is kind of a bitch. Even I can attest to that. That's why she became Subaru's girlfriend.

Only in minor ways, Re: Zero has no beef with isekai except for protagonist not earning their victories. All other gay anime bullshit is played completely straight. I don't mean that in a bad way, if there wasn't a part of me that enjoyed gay anime bullshit, I wouldn't follow anime.

damn. didn't realize that!

Subaru doesn't games as much as Kazuma, what he mostly does is browse around 2chan, shittalk people and stopped going to school because he is a "failed normie" so to speak. Also Kazuma doesn't need to save a female protagonist. I also don't think Kazuma has a habit of crossdressing and whatnot.

>Replying to bait

>Implying I can make kids with Aqua
My sperm will be purified the moment it enters her anyway.

Not him but I think Emilia is kinder, but in a generic 'nice girl' way. She's also beautiful as a dream heroine is expected to be. Rem takes time to warm up to someone and can be a bitch, but will go balls out for a person she cares about. Not as beautiful but arguably cuter.

Basically, the blue girls are best.

Daily reminder that Aqua wears
pantsus.

They actually make a reference to it in Re:Zero. Emilia imitates Megumin's manners of speech in an episode preview.

You're replying to bait user. That is our local Re:Zero shitposter-kun you are talking to. I'd say Re:Zero is the Monkey's Paw of the isekai series more than a deconstruction, and even that might be giving it a too much credit.

>Basically, the blue girls are best.
Not when there's a red girl. See Evangelion or Konosuba.

You need to be 18 to post here. Also lurk 2 years before posting.

do u speak japanese, user?

Well I can't really deny that.
Sucks she is worst girl because of her shitty clown lover.

I'm not completely fluent, but I reached the point where I can translate pretty much any sentence if given time, understand speech unless technical terms are involved and hold casual conversations.

>comparing a comedy anime to a drama
It's not because they're fantasy animes and both MCs are complete losers that they're similar.
You're fucking retarded.

>understand speech unless technical terms are involved and hold casual conversations
that's why you can pick up such nuances. I'm not there yet.

what's the best way to learn the language without going to Japan?

'snot b8 m8, I mostly stay out of Re: Zero threads because I'm secondary trash. I don't use deconstruction to imply some sort of level of quality.

Minor ways still count, and I would also say that--aside from Rem, mind you--it takes issue with a social loser shut-in being able to make all kinds of friends and have people trust him, and in general takes issue with the Subaru's expectations for the people around him, which I think counts since what he expects is for people to behave like he's in a game.

There are more than one Subaru?

Explain.

Without going into spoiler territory there is only one Subaru.

You can check Daily Japanese Threads on /jp/ (they used to be in Sup Forums, but I don't remember why they were moved). Their guide is pretty handy.

Bait

>have to save the female protagonist...
Kazuma wants Aqua to die, what are you talking about?

Well forgive me then, its just calling Re:Zero a deconstruction automatically is labeled bait because one guy likes to keep posting it to piss off the fans.

You can't fool me, user.

Did anime lie to me?

Why does Emilia look so awkward in Aqua's outfit when the reverse is so much better?

no hips?

>Re: Zero has no beef with isekai except for protagonist not earning their victories
I wouldn't say that. As Subaru never truly won any of his battles. But this is coming from someone who is reading the mega so I guess this doesn't really apply to your view on the anime.

In terms of physical confrontation obviously not. But to say his actions didn't score wins over Elsa, demon dogs, and that fat fucking white whale kind of undersells him.

I dont mean that. I mean that every victory he won is always contered by a massive loss. Equivalent echange and all that.

I dont mean that, I mean every victory one is also countered by a loss for Subaru. Equivalent exchange and all that. As this series is a tragedy after-all.

i'd honestly say it'd her pose

>Very similar plots and characters

You must be literally retarded. One's a comedy, and the other is a dark setting.

Both authors are friends, but aside from that it's not really that similar. Kazuma and Subaru despite being isekai'ed people behave very differently from each other.

>Authors know each other
>Share VAs
>Both are isekai with tracksuit leads
>Had many crossovers
>Both were liked by Sup Forums when they were airing and both are hated once they're over
>Both are called Reddit (Reddit:zero and redditsuba)
>Both actually sold well
But no, they're not similar in any way, better lurk 2 years, am i right? As if lurking 2 years would change anything.

>all these things that have nothing to do with the plot and characters
Yet they're knockoffs.

What part about They're very similar do you not understand?

Can not compare, rezero is not comedy
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Both are nothing more than generic isekai stories, one's just more of a lighthearted comedy and the other is drama-based.

And neither of these are "deconstructions" of anything. The only good meta anime left nowadays is monogatari.

only one of these points have to do with plot, which was what OP was arguing about

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Reifags are the worst.

The one that is funny and not annoying to watch.

Nice to see another Re:zero fan. Konosuba was really annoying. I agree with you.

I never said it was a deconstruction, it's just not a straight played isekai adventure show. It's a parody isekai adventure show.
And Monogatari isn't really meta about being an anime, it's meta about being a story. The key concepts it plays around with the most are the ideas of the hero, the heroine, the villain, and the linear narrative. It has some "haha we're doing an anime trope but different and WaCkY" sprinkled on top, but really the things its actual story and characters are subverting is the idea of what a story itself should be.

Iirc the authors were friends before either got popular

Why do you find so similar with Konosuba or Re:Zero? I've watched, read and enjoyed both series and they could not be any different from each other.

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Tappei likes to do What IF chapters.

That picture is the [hypothetical Subaru who sold his soul to the Witch of Greed] Subaru and the [hypothetical Subaru who didn't call for the guard while getting mugged in Arc 1] picking on the [hypothetical Subaru who ran away and married Rem instead of killing the Whale].

>[hypothetical Subaru who didn't call for the guard while getting mugged in Arc 1]

Eh, its more like the Subaru who did everything by himself for Emilia.

The hypothetical diverged when Subaru didn't call for help (and, as a result, didn't meet Reinhard).

EMILIA-TAAAAAN

Re:Zero Season 2 will be huge

user, that would by 3/5 of the AUs though. 2 of which where Emilia becomes king.

>hates Ram just because she is stuck with the clown
>doesn't know she is actually his victim and desperately wants to be rescued by someone.
Fuck you user. You're not allowed to shittalk nee-sama if you can't even feel her tragedy.

Their backstory says differently, nee-sama may be best girl but he is worst girl until the person that is making her such a bastard is dead. She is such a doormat to Roswaal too. Remember Gaaf?

Konosuba is a deconstruction parody of Re:Zero.

They're not. The two are written by folks with the same ideas. There is a reason why the authors of both novels are best friends.

Think of it like this:

>Let's write an isekai
>Rock, Paper and Scissors to decide which one writes the suffer porn and the other the parody porn.

>nopan EMT

>Konosuba is a deconstruction parody of Re:Zero.
Best description yet!

Wasn't there supposed to be a crossover between these two series?

They should just send Rem over to Konosuba. She'd be appreciated more there.

Our one of local translators Remon, has just ordered the crossover.