Spanking

What is Sup Forums's opinion on spanking and corporal punishment in general? I personally believe it is a sign of poor parenting, and shows you have no control over the child. Blacks in America use this form of punishment regularly on their children, with no effect,

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children can be unreasonable

It's ok to hit your wife only with an open hand.

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This guy's got it

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I think punishing women is more important than children at this point, not that there's a big difference.

Spanking, I believe, can be beneficial, but only if applied in a correct manner. A perfect parent probably doesn't need to spank their children. An imperfect parent probably doesn't know how to apply spanking in a beneficial manner. If a perfect parent were correcting someone else's children, then I believe an appropriate spanking at the right time could be beneficial. Some children are past empty threats, and would challenge a parent if they thought they could get away with it.

"Do you want to get spanked?" Asshole child: "YES!" "Okay..." Spank that ass, reset their mindset, and apply an appropriate lesson. There's a time and place for negative reinforcement. I believe it can be as beneficial as positive reinforcement, especially if the kid has become an asshole.

Depends on the kid. Sounds fucked up but my brother got physically disciplined more than I did when I was a kid because he stood there and took it like a man, and i ran away crying with the fear of god in my eyes.
Spanking shouldn't be to scare your child, it should be teach them a lesson through a physical deterrent
>if you do this thing again you will feel unpleasant pain

>Some children are past empty threats, and would challenge a parent if they thought they could get away with it.
Sounds like poor parenting if the child cannot respect their parent's authority without violence

this.

I've never respected anyone's authority without them being violent or witnessing them being violent... what kinda dag are you?

>Spanking

If you have to spank your kid, you have already fucked up as a parent, but if it comes to that, better spank it than let it misbehave.

I concur

Pretty much, or absentee parenting. Some parents don't have the time to raise their children, thanks to the modern workforce. At either rate, if you're watching someone else's kids and they're shitty parents, and the kids are spoiled and absolutely resistant to any attempts to exert your authority over them, I imagine a spanking could show them who's boss in an instant. When they start crying, then you demonstrate why you spanked them and why they need to behave and so on. They'll respect you rather quickly. I think negative reinforcement can be as beneficial as positive reinforcement. There have been studies with animals that show the ones that are given nothing but positive attention take it for granted and don't care about their masters, and the animals shown only negative attention also don't care for their masters, but the ones shown both positive AND negative attention are closest to their masters. Something can also be said for children. Show them great affection, but when they fuck up let them know it (with spankings if necessary) and they won't forget their lessons. If you were perfect at parenting this wouldn't be necessary, but very few are that great.

Beating your children in any way just gives them the idea that it's okay to resort to violence.
Don't make your children into some wiggers or edgy teens commenting on YouTube about their life.

most women love some good spanking

BTW, millennials are probably the greatest example of what happens to a generation when you don't give them a proper whoopin from time to time,

healthy and normal
just don't go too far

ITS
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I think there would be less faggots if parents actually punished their children.

Of course it's fine you pathetic soyboy

Millenials are the greatest example of what happens when women stay in the workforce post-childbirth, and 50% of marriages end in divorce

If you're unable to reason with your child, then they won't understand why you're hitting them.
if you can reason with your child, then use reason... and stop hitting your child you fucking caveman.

I wouldn't. Not anymore at least.

Not one to post but fuck it.

Spanking is "positive reinforcement" as its giving something (pain in this case)

Negative reinforcement can be negative or positive in the receivers eyes (taking away chores would be "negative reinforcement" as its taking something away but STILL a reward)

negative reinforcement = taking something away (be it reward or punishment)

positive reinforcement = adding something (be it reword or punishment)

that said nice post and all, but still

t. white male drop out due to implicit college insults

this.
parents these days use iPads to calm their kids down instead of actually being real parents. parenting is difficult, its easier to just hand them an IPad and not worry about it.

If it's balanced out with some actual parenting then yes.

>Beating your children in any way just gives them the idea that it's okay to resort to violence.

That's a very narrow mindset. There are many more complicated scenarios than that. Once violence is on the table it's always there. If your kid is openly defying you and time out no longer has any affect then spank that ass. They'll shape up real quick.

I spank my kids, They might not be as tame or personable as other White children, but I'm raising my kids in a diverse America. You European faggots with your nice ass communities take them for granted. My kids got to go to daycare and compete with Le 56% kids. They're as well-mannered and polite as I can expect them to be, while not taking any shit from the shitskins and standing up for themselves. I can't expect my 3-year-old to have a Buddhist monk mentality in that environment.

Threat of violence is half of what respect is based upon.
Why do you respect a /fit/ guy more than a fat guy

i wish i had a boy to spank

>don't spank them, they will become like superior Swedes. Passive and non violent even when violence is needed. Remember don't spank.

Spanking is a great way to remind your sissy slut who's in charge.

spanking is great, but when disciplining children or women, don't do it out of anger. Make sure your emotions are in check

>Spanking is "positive reinforcement" as its giving something (pain in this case)
>American """education"""

Don't reply to this thread, it's a gay jew psyop, just look at the image it's a black male spanking a white male

/lgbt/ Jew shillela detected, leave

It's true. I've seen it. Fuckin mind control with those computers. There is brainwashing going on there.

It's negative reinforcement, dummy.

positive = positive reaction for positive occurrence
negative = negative reaction for negative occurrence

classical, stage-based conditioning.

If your positive reinforcements outweigh your negative reinforcements, you fucked up somewhere.

Its done by people that low key want to/are molesting their kids

Hello Bangladesh!
how is the Rohingya problem?

I went to Bangladesh, specifically Dhaka in In October (I work for a well known clothing retailer) and it seems like all i saw on the news at the hotel was about them

You think you're hot shit, dontcha, Skippy?

S-Sorry dad

All the wanna-be teen Nazi's are reading this, then slinking away without comment.

If you're referring to the violence in Sweden, then you must also mean immigrants. They do beat their children a lot so what's your point?

Obviously one should not spoil their child rotten. There are numerous methods of negative reinforcement that do not involve violence, which I believe leads to resentment in the child.

Don't lump me in, Swedecuck.

It always amazes me how much Sup Forums's otherwise harsh worldview becomes so soft as soon as you suggest spanking your children.

I think part of the reason bad parenting is so pervasive is people getting their terms mixed up.

Spanking is not "Negative reinforcement." Negative reinforcement is strengthening a response or behavior by stopping, removing, or avoiding a negative outcome or aversive stimulus.. Taking asprin to get rid of a headache is negative reinforcement. You take a pill to make the headache go away, and you'll do that behavior again the next time you get a headache. Positive and Negative reinforcement do not describe how pleasant the behavior is, they describe either adding (positive) or subtracting (negative) a stimulus to encourage a behavior.

Spanking would be considered Positive Punishment. The problem is parents don't PUNISH children when they do something wrong, thus they do not build respect for rules and parental authority. The best parents are Authoritative parents that guide their children with basic rules but also give the children freedom to do stuff on their own, as long as they play within the scope of the rules, as opposed to Authoritarian parents that keep their kids on a leash at all times or Indulgent parents that let their kids do whatever the hell or Permissive parents who don't pay attention to their kids.

Spanking is a fine punishment for a there-and-then lesson

The problem is children are very impulsive and generally don't think ahead or about consequences of their actions so spanking isn't very good as a pro or retroactive punishment.

It lowers the IQ of children, when done early when empathy is developing

xD

Blacks hit their kids as a punishment more than whites.
The results speak for themself.

All you do is teach them that when someone smaller and weaker than you annoys you, it is right to hit them to get them to do what you want.

Good to do to a

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinforcement#Negative_reinforcement

serbian scum making me post 2x as much as i intended to... i agree american education isnt something to be proud of but i did ACTIVELY distance it from myself in my post... serbian scum tried reading your wiki page but goddamn such useless info that will never come in handy again but to insult other serbian scum that i will never come into contact with.

Come to think of it you will come into contact with my kind but not the other way around... so youre just "criticizing" someone you feel as more valid than yourself which is why you did no research prior to posting.

Way to represent what must be a pitiful country (just guessing as once again i didnt read the wiki page because why bother, your country has no affect whereas mine does)

This

There is a difference between spanking and beating. Kid's aren't reasonable, they are raw emotions. You should explain and teach everything you can to them, but sometimes a whack can help enforce ideas they will otherwise refuse to accept. To pointlessly beat on a kid is abuse, but a spank and a lesson isn't.

We're social mammals. All social mammals use ritualised violence to establish hierarchy. When your son challenges your authority (which he should absolutely do) you must respond appropriately or your son will have learned he outranks you deep in some primal part of his brain.

Its for weak parents that can’t control their kids. My father had the shit beat out of him and he stopped the cycle with my sister and I. 160k salary and we are best buds.

people will believe any bullshit written about ww2 internment camps

its some interview

typically people get money, they make up some nonsense and everyone just accepts whatever they say no questions ask

much like the exposed frauds that went on Donahue and such shows

I work in the public health sector and every day I see tons of children who need a good smack in the face.

Blacks do it cuz they are violent animals. europeans do it cuz they really like it. thats why berlin is number 1 city in the world with BDSM clubs.
in porn sites when you go to BDSM section, its 90% porn that comes from europe.

>crie for angry, "swedish" bbc xD

I can act like an obnoxious faggot too.

It's good for shota to have a good ol' slap on their ass.

wew ur so mad xD

>In a world where 79% of the population is literally celebrating the extinction of the other 21% and teaching their children that they should be ashamed of their existence, pol discourages the use of sexual violence on young children during their most formative years.

Really makes me think.

Keep talking you liberal fuck.

If a Jew didn't make that I'll eat my hat.

SPANK DAT WHITE BOI

Dont be a serbian, read the wiki page. As people who come from a place of influence (unlike serbia) its kinda up to us to do things like that

Example: A person puts ointment on a bug bite to soothe an itch. If the ointment works, the person will likely increase the usage of the ointment because it resulted in removing the itch, which is the negative reinforcer.

t. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinforcement#Negative_reinforcement

Ignoring the fact that this is a poorly veiled spanking fetish thread, I'll answer your question anyway.

Spanking your children is not the best way to ensure that they obey your orders. That said, sometimes it's necessary to give your children a little corporal punishment. Doing it too much, as many psychologists have noted, leads to mental illness and criminal behavior, yes, but sometimes it's a necessary evil. Only lolbertarians like Molymeme who believe in the NAP think violence is NEVER the answer.

As for the people meming in this thread about how they spank their wives, while posting degenerate advertisements and softcore erotica from the 50s, that's not really an effective punishment for your wife. You're rewarding her bad behavior by indulging the incessant masochism and craving for drama and pain that all women naturally have. Why any of you would incentivize bad behavior is beyond me, but then again, I'm not a weird pervert so I can't exactly understand the logic of porn addicts.

Non-physical punishments, those that hinder pleasure rather than facilitate pain, have been proven to be far more effective in disciplining your children. And if that doesn't work, you can always threaten them with good old military school. Legally, you can send your kid to a reform facility that basically abducts them in the middle of the night. They're transported to this remote location, sort of like a camp, where their behavior is molded and reformed. That oughta scare the little tramps!

Hitting your kids, or your wife for that matter, is nigger-tier and should only be done in extreme circumstances. It's not traditional. Only light chastisement has been employed and never to leave permanent scars, only to humiliate.

Nope, you're partaking in gallows humor, migrant boi. The only thing you officially have against us now is the mutt meme.

You're fucking retarded. See pic related, user.

Or this one

Disregarding another person and trying to oppress them by using violence and humiliation will never result in something good.

>Spanking is inherently sexual.

Get out, kike.

I think molymeme would probably agree that parenting done right doesn't need violence, and that means that your child has limits about what they can be expected to do, such as sit still and be patient, or do complex tasks they don't yet understand, and as a parent your job is to make sure you don't expect too much of them.

Once you push them past that limit you need to result to smacking to suppress their behaviour, in which case if you're at that stage, you're failing as a parent.

You see this at supermarkets, the fat idiot mother dragging around young kids, those children don't have the patience to simply be quiet and still for hours on end while you pile shit into a trolly, what the fuck are you doing with children at a store? Of course they're going to start acting out and your response is going to be to smack them.

You're right it's basically nigger tier behavior and it creates a cycle of violence where your children will think hitting their children is the right thing to do, breaking that cycle by actually getting educated on the bad effects and then stopping it is fucking hard, few people manage it.

This guy gets it. Its like your grandparents control of india and africa, love and care are 2 mutually exclusive things, as are control and respect.

lmao if you can't afford to spoil the utter shit out of your kids and have them and the next three generations not have to work a day in their lives then you have failed miserably as a parent

>parenting done right doesn't need violence, and that means that your child has limits about what they can be expected to do, such as sit still and be patient, or do complex tasks they don't yet understand
It's true that forcing children to do things that are harmful to their well-being is bad and that we shouldn't expect children to endure what amounts to torture, but your kid should behave at the fucking supermarket for Christ's sake! If your kid's a cunt, sometimes you have to give them a smack.

It should never come to that, of course, but sometimes shit happens and you gotta deal with it appropriately. If your authority can't be backed up with physical force, and your child knows that, he or she is going to take advantage of that. This is why under your British coverture laws, a man could chastise his wife with physical punishment. Because he was legally responsible for her behavior, he was given legal permission to curtail her illicit actions and enforce his authority. Authority without force is meaningless.

It is in this oversexualised society

>kiſs my arſe you whore, I'll nab your cuckold